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FinAtic8480
04-08-2007, 04:01 PM
Patriots | Team talks trade with Redskins
Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:54:32 -0700
Albert Breer, of the Boston Herald, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl">New England Patriots have been rumored to have been talking about a trade with the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl), which would ship the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) 28th pick and CB Asante Samuel (http://www.kffl.com/player/6006/nfl) to the Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) for the sixth overall pick. This would allow the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) to draft Louisiana State S LaRon Landry (http://www.kffl.com/player/13562/nfl), an impact player who would be ready to start on the season opener.

How would this affect us. I personally think this would kill us and we would have to look at trading with Arizona or possibly Tampa..... Wow talk about messing us up in trading up for Quinn if he is avalaible.

elite14eva
04-08-2007, 04:06 PM
won't happen.

SR 7
04-08-2007, 04:18 PM
if he goes to NE he is a HOFer already.

Pocoloco
04-08-2007, 04:23 PM
it'll probably never happen. Washington is the obvious choice for any one to talk to though, because they have so few picks this year. The Pats are probably just exploring the option, since Landry is unlikely to get past Atlanta

miami234ever
04-08-2007, 04:27 PM
Does Washington have enough CBs yet?

footballer
04-08-2007, 04:48 PM
Does Washington have enough CBs yet?

theyre old in the 2ndry other than carlos rogers..
i can see it happening...
remember they have attempted to trade that pick away before(thats why so many of finheavenites beklieve we trade up to 6 to get quinn)..

so i can def. see it..
but really really hope it doesnt happen.

p.s.
they(the pats) could prob. get the 6th just by offering up their late 1st..

um................
..........thats a jab at the franchise, yes in deedy..

emale2u1
04-08-2007, 05:00 PM
Patriots | Team talks trade with Redskins
Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:54:32 -0700
Albert Breer, of the Boston Herald, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl">New England Patriots have been rumored to have been talking about a trade with the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl), which would ship the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) 28th pick and CB Asante Samuel (http://www.kffl.com/player/6006/nfl) to the Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) for the sixth overall pick. This would allow the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) to draft Louisiana State S LaRon Landry (http://www.kffl.com/player/13562/nfl), an impact player who would be ready to start on the season opener.

How would this affect us. I personally think this would kill us and we would have to look at trading with Arizona or possibly Tampa..... Wow talk about messing us up in trading up for Quinn if he is avalaible.

This is the Redskins we are talking about. They are all over this trade. In fact, if it happens, I am sure they will throw in Shawn Springs as well. That is the rumor here in DC.

miami234ever
04-08-2007, 05:10 PM
theyre old in the 2ndry other than carlos rogers..
i can see it happening...
remember they have attempted to trade that pick away before(thats why so many of finheavenites beklieve we trade up to 6 to get quinn)..

so i can def. see it..
but really really hope it doesnt happen.

p.s.
they(the pats) could prob. get the 6th just by offering up their late 1st..

um................
..........thats a jab at the franchise, yes in deedy..

Yea but they also signed Fred Smoot and David Macklin and still have Shawn Springs.

BillsFanInPeace
04-08-2007, 05:22 PM
Patriots | Team talks trade with Redskins
Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:54:32 -0700
Albert Breer, of the Boston Herald, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl">New England Patriots have been rumored to have been talking about a trade with the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl), which would ship the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) 28th pick and CB Asante Samuel (http://www.kffl.com/player/6006/nfl) to the Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) for the sixth overall pick. This would allow the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) to draft Louisiana State S LaRon Landry (http://www.kffl.com/player/13562/nfl), an impact player who would be ready to start on the season opener

PHINFREAK3675
04-08-2007, 05:41 PM
if brady quinn isnt gone by the 1,2, or 3rd pick then thats when we would want to try and move up. this dosn't really effect us because it's not like the pats are going to pick quinn. i would like to get washingtons 6th overall but i don't wanna give up to much.

Agent51
04-08-2007, 05:42 PM
Patriots | Team talks trade with Redskins
Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:54:32 -0700
Albert Breer, of the Boston Herald, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl">New England Patriots have been rumored to have been talking about a trade with the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl), which would ship the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) 28th pick and CB Asante Samuel (http://www.kffl.com/player/6006/nfl) to the Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) for the sixth overall pick. This would allow the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) to draft Louisiana State S LaRon Landry (http://www.kffl.com/player/13562/nfl), an impact player who would be ready to start on the season opener.

How would this affect us. I personally think this would kill us and we would have to look at trading with Arizona or possibly Tampa..... Wow talk about messing us up in trading up for Quinn if he is avalaible.

Well, it would slightly, but not MAJORLY. As long as Quinn falls past the Browns I am confident we can get him (assuming for this thread that we are targeting him). If the Past move up to #6, that all but destroys our chances to go up to that spot, as they are only doing so for Landry, and he won't make it past Atlanta to be there at #9, so they won't swap with us.

However, we could trade up with Arizona to #5 for our 1st and the Past' 2nd rounder (#60), or up to #4 with TB for the same plus a player or for our 1st and OUR 2nd rounder (#40).

That is all hypothetical, assuming we are targeting Quinn (Hopefully we are), he falls past Cleveland (Hopefully he does), and the players TB and/or Arizona are targeting still have a chance of being there at #9 so they are willing to do the trade. NE trading to #6 makes stuff harder, but definately not impossible.

Dolfan32323
04-08-2007, 05:45 PM
God I hate New England lol.

Vertical Limit
04-08-2007, 05:48 PM
Oh no, that last place I want LaRon Landry to fall is the ****ing Patriots. ****.

maverick50
04-08-2007, 05:53 PM
gosh darn it , i sure wished that we could pull some more draft picks out of our magic hat and then i wished we could kick the jets and patriots sorry kesters.

icephinfan
04-08-2007, 05:57 PM
Every year the Skins are involved with signing everyone,trading or just being in the news.:tantrum:

NorFlaFin
04-08-2007, 05:59 PM
Just wait if the Pat don't trade by draft time. @ 9 if Landry is on the board I'd expect Meullars phone to ring with the Pats offering both of their 1st rd picks.

Tureo
04-08-2007, 06:01 PM
If the Pats got Landry I think ESPN would just give them the SB for the next 5 years. O have they already done that. If we can't get QUinn I would want Landry. If we didn't get Quinn and the Pats got Landry that would be a double whammy.

Vertical Limit
04-08-2007, 06:02 PM
Just wait if the Pat don't trade by draft time. @ 9 if Landry is on the board I'd expect Meullars phone to ring with the Pats offering both of their 1st rd picks.
I wouldn't do it. LaRon Landry is DANGEROUS, that Patriot defense is already good enough, let's not help them make it x3 better. LaRon is the type of player with such lethal hits, he can send our receivers and quarterback's in IR. :shakeno:

Besides, LaRon won't get passed Atlanta, so going for Washington's pick is the right move for the Patriots.

NorFlaFin
04-08-2007, 06:08 PM
I wouldn't do it. LaRon Landry is DANGEROUS, that Patriot defense is already good enough, let's not help them make it x3 better. LaRon is the type of player with such lethal hits, he can send our receivers and quarterback's in IR. :shakeno:

Besides, LaRon won't get passed Atlanta, so going for Washington's pick is the right move for the Patriots.


I would agree Landry is going to be a lethal player. It;s just that the Phins have so many holes. If the phone rings you have to answer it.

miamiron
04-08-2007, 06:09 PM
Patriots | Team talks trade with Redskins
Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:54:32 -0700
Albert Breer, of the Boston Herald, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl">New England Patriots have been rumored to have been talking about a trade with the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl), which would ship the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) 28th pick and CB Asante Samuel (http://www.kffl.com/player/6006/nfl) to the Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) for the sixth overall pick. This would allow the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) to draft Louisiana State S LaRon Landry (http://www.kffl.com/player/13562/nfl), an impact player who would be ready to start on the season opener

Why not go for the whole enchalada and throw in your other #1 pick and
get Calvin Johnson...Imagine Brady throwing to Johnson:shakeno:

phinphan4life
04-08-2007, 06:10 PM
If it was at all possible for me to hate the patriots anymore, this definitely sealed the deal.

:monkeyr::nesucks::monkeyl:

twanderer
04-08-2007, 06:10 PM
God I hate New England lol.

lol, we shoudnt hate them we should learn from them. They obviously have a formula that works.

FinNasty
04-08-2007, 06:14 PM
If NE gets Landry... I will cry...

morbio115
04-08-2007, 06:19 PM
Why is everyone so sure Miami wants Brady Quinn?I have a feeling miami will try to get secondary help with pick one.

alienalias
04-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Why would everyone be so upset with this? Do you know how many "can't miss" prospects end up failing miserably? The Patriots would basically be giving up a PROVEN Pro Bowler from their secondary, for a guy that they're hoping and praying is as good or slightly better. I say this isn't that bad of a thing if it happens. Landry could be the next Ronnie Lott, or the next Jamar Fletcher... you just don't know. Would be great to read some reasonable or level-headed comments, instead of continually reading that the sky is falling.

Regan21286
04-08-2007, 06:43 PM
This will probably and hopefully stay a rumor. But it would be a great way for the Pats to screw us over. We lose out on a potential partner to trade up for Brady Quinn, Pats gain a playmaking safety and lose a player that may or may not re-sign long term with them again, and Landry's selection could cause someone else we want to go to Minny or Atlanta.

Agent51
04-08-2007, 06:51 PM
God I hate New England lol.

I always have man, ever since Tom Brady broke out they have been my most hated sports franchise.

This off-season makes me hate them even more, and if they land Landry in the draft, well, I don't even know, because really, my hatred for them can't get any worse.

PhinsRDbest
04-08-2007, 06:55 PM
Just wait if the Pat don't trade by draft time. @ 9 if Landry is on the board I'd expect Meullars phone to ring with the Pats offering both of their 1st rd picks.
What if it was Samuel and a 1st.

MexDolfan
04-08-2007, 06:59 PM
Don't miss read this.
Minnesota is willing to pick Brady Quinn, but their need on him isn't as bigger as ours. They can trade with us, reducing the price of the trade.
I'm worried about the caliber of secondary the _____ Pats may be building for the future.

PhinGeneral
04-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Why would everyone be so upset with this? Do you know how many "can't miss" prospects end up failing miserably? The Patriots would basically be giving up a PROVEN Pro Bowler from their secondary, for a guy that they're hoping and praying is as good or slightly better. I say this isn't that bad of a thing if it happens. Landry could be the next Ronnie Lott, or the next Jamar Fletcher... you just don't know. Would be great to read some reasonable or level-headed comments, instead of continually reading that the sky is falling.

I agree. Everybody overreacted when they traded away Deion Branch for a 1st round pick, and that trade might have cost them a trip to the Super Bowl.

Landry might turn out to be a great player. But they would be giving up a very good, playmaking CB to get him. The same playmaking CB that half of this board was hot to get when free agency was rolling around.

Agent51
04-08-2007, 07:11 PM
Don't miss read this.
Minnesota is willing to pick Brady Quinn, but their need on him isn't as bigger as ours. They can trade with us, reducing the price of the trade.
I'm worried about the caliber of secondary the _____ Pats may be building for the future.

It isn't as big as ours, but what player at #7 or #9 projects as well as Quinn? Like, you either draft BPA or for need, those are really the only two strategies to use when making a pick. BPA at #7 or #9 will obviously be Quinn (assuming he drops that far). He is a #1 overall talent, so him being there at either pic is a steal, so he'd definately be BPA. As far as need, I haven't looked o much into Minny, but is there anyone they NEED that wouldn't be a reach at #7 or #9? If not, they may just take Quinn anyway for either trade bait or player value.

finfan54
04-08-2007, 08:38 PM
Washington buys Samuel with a 20 million bonus and they are right back in cap hell again. Why wouldnt Washington just trade down a few spots and get Hall and still have better picks? If they needed a CB that bad....
duh.

Jaj
04-08-2007, 08:40 PM
Hey if they want to trade down that badly then give them a lowball offer and see if they bite.

Dolfan32323
04-08-2007, 08:58 PM
I always have man, ever since Tom Brady broke out they have been my most hated sports franchise.

This off-season makes me hate them even more, and if they land Landry in the draft, well, I don't even know, because really, my hatred for them can't get any worse.I know man, it is driving me nuts. They're fans are becoming cocky and for good reason. I just wanna friggen hand it to NE and shut their fans up for good. 2 blowouts gainst them would make my year!

dahlmarino
04-08-2007, 09:08 PM
Washington buys Samuel with a 20 million bonus and they are right back in cap hell again. Why wouldnt Washington just trade down a few spots and get Hall and still have better picks? If they needed a CB that bad....
duh.

Because that's not how Dan Snyder does business. Why go try to develop first round talent when you can overpay for free agents every single year?

Hoot {MWB}
04-08-2007, 10:07 PM
Frik...that would put 3 realistic strikes against us (3 teams head of us looking at Landry...Pats, Vikes-doubtful-,and Falcons). I know you guys are really hoping for Quinn, which if he fell to us at 9 would be huge, but I'm really hoping we can snag Landry at 9.

fishypete
04-08-2007, 11:26 PM
Take the best player at 9 or trade back and get more draft picks....forget what any other team may or may not do.

HybridPHIN 23
04-09-2007, 02:30 AM
Because that's not how Dan Snyder does business. Why go try to develop first round talent when you can overpay for free agents every single year?

it's the opposite approach to the one good teams use !!! Let's try it :lol:

Watch the Pats have Brady throw to Stallworth 350 times and then Franchise him after the season so they can get a 1st and 3rd from the Skins.:tantrum:

taylormvp99
04-09-2007, 02:45 AM
Most people are not looking at both sides of this trade. Now I think Landry will be an elite player but Samuel is already an elite player. New England would be losing one of the top 2 corners in football this past year and a 1st round pick which could turn out to be very valuable (Reggie Nelson, Dwayne Jarrett). Would you rather have 2 playmakers in their secondary in Samuel and Nelson or just 1 with Landry. I'll take the one. Even if Landry fell to 9 and New England came offering Samuel and the 28th pick, I'd make the trade only if Quinn wasn't available. Samuel is great and he's still young and this is a very deep draft where Miami could fill another need at pick 28. Someone like Jarrett or Joe Staley might be around there.

NorFlaFin
04-10-2007, 08:12 AM
What if it was Samuel and a 1st.


Rather have the picks, Samuels wants a Nate Clements(+20%) deal. That would tie up too much money in the DB's. Not saying Samuel isn't a great player, I'm saying his contract demands are going to break somebody cap.

phinphanforever
04-10-2007, 09:10 AM
Patriots | Team talks trade with Redskins
Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:54:32 -0700
Albert Breer, of the Boston Herald, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl">New England Patriots have been rumored to have been talking about a trade with the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl), which would ship the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) 28th pick and CB Asante Samuel (http://www.kffl.com/player/6006/nfl) to the Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) for the sixth overall pick. This would allow the Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) to draft Louisiana State S LaRon Landry (http://www.kffl.com/player/13562/nfl), an impact player who would be ready to start on the season opener.

How would this affect us. I personally think this would kill us and we would have to look at trading with Arizona or possibly Tampa..... Wow talk about messing us up in trading up for Quinn if he is avalaible.
It makes quite a bit of sense. After all, we're talking about the Patriots here. There's an organisation that truly undertsands talent and value. Landry is going to be special.

PhinfanUK
04-10-2007, 10:11 AM
Seems like a very un-Patriots move. They could probably ship Samuel for another first if they wanted and solve their Safety need by getting into a position for Griffin or just take Merriweather at 28. No way do I see them trading up for Landry.

NorFlaFin
04-10-2007, 11:16 AM
Seems like a very un-Patriots move. They could probably ship Samuel for another first if they wanted and solve their Safety need by getting into a position for Griffin or just take Merriweather at 28. No way do I see them trading up for Landry.


Everything the Pat have done this year (in free agency) has been un-Pats like. From the signning of Wes Welker to a bloated contract to being mentioned in almost NFL rumor. It's totally out-of-charcter, the kicker was the Randy Moss rumor.