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Blitz
04-08-2007, 08:08 PM
The ninth overall pick + the sixtieth overall pick

FOR

The sixth overall pick

RonnieBrownTown
04-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Yes if that is all we have to give up

AZStryker
04-08-2007, 08:19 PM
The ninth overall pick + the sixtieth overall pick

FOR

The sixth overall pick

They'll probably want both of our 2nds though

Jaj
04-08-2007, 08:22 PM
No they won't. They want to trade down, they have no rivalry with us, and it's adequate compensation so I have no idea where you would get that conclusion from.

zonk4ever
04-08-2007, 08:32 PM
Why don't you go on the Skin's forum and propose it to them. These trade up scenarios are a waste of time. But I understand... we're freakin' desperate aren't we? :sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol:

Pocoloco
04-08-2007, 08:42 PM
yes, but I think we could get away for just the third.

But nevertheless, think about it this way..

Wes Welker for Brady Quinn? Of course you would make that trade!

MexDolfan
04-08-2007, 08:42 PM
They'll probably want both of our 2nds though
That would be robbery according to NFL Draft Value Chart, where pick #6 is worth 1600 points, #9 = 1350, #40 = 500, #60 = 292.
So the most they expect to exchange would be that, our #9 and #60, where we "lost" 42 points.
That may make a fairer trade where they give spot #6 of 1600, #143 of 34.5 in round 5, and #216 of 5 in round 7. We pay with spots #9 and #60, of combined 1642, exchanging 1639.5. That means a 1th & 2nd round picks for a set of picks in rounds 1, 5 & 7.

The Franchise
04-08-2007, 08:43 PM
Yeah, you make that trade, if possible.

Blitz
04-08-2007, 08:45 PM
Why don't you go on the Skin's forum and propose it to them. These trade up scenarios are a waste of time. But I understand... we're freakin' desperate aren't we? :sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol:

Do you realize that the Redskins, at the present moment, are not on the clock again until the 143rd pick in the fifth round? If we only had two picks in the first five rounds, would you not want to see us trade down three spots in the first round in order to obtain a second round pick?

They need and want more picks. According to the draft value chart (http://http://www.degnan.org/dolphins/draftvaluechart.htm), this would be a fair trade for both sides. They're the most logical trading partner for us.

Dolfan32323
04-08-2007, 08:55 PM
In a heartbeat.

rafael
04-08-2007, 09:11 PM
I would not trade up for Quinn.

PhinCanuck
04-08-2007, 09:14 PM
No they won't. They want to trade down, they have no rivalry with us, and it's adequate compensation so I have no idea where you would get that conclusion from.
I agree, but lets now count on them having that pick. If they trade for Samuel they might trade it. We'll see.

GRYPHONK
04-08-2007, 09:35 PM
We could probably get away with our 3rd rather then the 60th

Agent51
04-08-2007, 09:57 PM
I answered yes, and if there were an option that said "In A Heartbeat" I would have chosen that.

However, I think we could get away with our #9 and our #71 (3rd rounder) for #6. It is only a 15 point difference on the value chart, so they'd prolly go for it. Our #9 and #60 is worth 50 points MORE than the #6, so they'd have to give us a couple later rounders too just to lessen that gap. I would still gladly to our #9 and #60 for their #6 straight up, but we could work out a better trade

AZStryker
04-08-2007, 10:31 PM
That would be robbery according to NFL Draft Value Chart, where pick #6 is worth 1600 points, #9 = 1350, #40 = 500, #60 = 292.
So the most they expect to exchange would be that, our #9 and #60, where we "lost" 42 points.
That may make a fairer trade where they give spot #6 of 1600, #143 of 34.5 in round 5, and #216 of 5 in round 7. We pay with spots #9 and #60, of combined 1642, exchanging 1639.5. That means a 1th & 2nd round picks for a set of picks in rounds 1, 5 & 7.

Hey Daniel Snyder is greedy. Whould he get that??? No, Mueller isn't an idiot (I hope). I just remember the deal Ditka gave up to get Ricky. He gave up his whole draft to move up 5 slots or so. That's why I think Snyder would ask for that.

Elliott 1
04-08-2007, 11:43 PM
That's a BS trade scenario and you know it. This thread is a joke.

Agent51
04-09-2007, 12:15 AM
That would be robbery according to NFL Draft Value Chart, where pick #6 is worth 1600 points, #9 = 1350, #40 = 500, #60 = 292.
So the most they expect to exchange would be that, our #9 and #60, where we "lost" 42 points.
That may make a fairer trade where they give spot #6 of 1600, #143 of 34.5 in round 5, and #216 of 5 in round 7. We pay with spots #9 and #60, of combined 1642, exchanging 1639.5. That means a 1th & 2nd round picks for a set of picks in rounds 1, 5 & 7.

Dude, #9 and #71 from us would equal 1,585, #6 is 1,600, it's a 15 point difference, we could throw in either a player or the #181 pick (our first of 2 6th rounder), which is worth 19 points, and then we only lose 4 points.

Also, a 1st and 2nd rounder in exchange for a 1st, 5th, and 7th, isn't such a bad thing either. Yeah, we loose a 2nd round pick, but we still would have the #40 pick, it's not like we'd have NO second rounder, and we'd pick up another 5th and 7th in the process, so in that scenerio we'd gain a pick.

Don't always take the most extreme examples and then bash an idea for being stupid. There are multiple ways to approach every situation.

Agent51
04-09-2007, 12:16 AM
That's a BS trade scenario and you know it. This thread is a joke.

Then ignore it :shakeno:

Regan21286
04-09-2007, 01:03 AM
If Quinn's still on the board, then yes make the trade.

1Hawdolfin4L
04-09-2007, 02:19 AM
Here's a scenario for you. Since Carr signed with Carolina, the possibility of Quinn dropping to the 23 spot as one mock draft suggested becomes much more of a reality. Remember Marino dropped to the 28 spot. We switch places with KC for Trent if that is what they want, effectively they move up draft ladder with an invisible non existing 2nd round pick, and we get Quinn at the 23 spot saving both money and draft picks.

Jaj
04-09-2007, 02:26 AM
So your saying the Jaguars, the Ravens trading up, nor the Bears would be ever so slightly interested?

taylormvp99
04-09-2007, 02:30 AM
I'd make the trade in a second. I'd push for giving up the 1st and 3rd round picks but if they had to give the 2nd round pick up, I'd do it.

taylormvp99
04-09-2007, 02:37 AM
There is no way Quinn falls to 23 because of David Carr. Carolina could still take Quinn because I'm sure they're not banking on David Carr being the QB of the future. Pretend this is last offseason and everyone didn't think Culpepper was the savior. They add Joey Harrington. Do you think this would have prevented them from taking Jay Cutler had he fallen to them? Not a chance. Plus, there would be teams in that range that would take Quinn and others would definitely try to trade up. Jacksonville, Baltimore, Chicago, the Jets, and teams like the Raiders, Lions, and Browns would try to move up from the 2nd round to get him there. If Quinn is there at 9, you take him. No trading down to see if he's there.

Tureo
04-09-2007, 10:38 PM
Here's a scenario for you. Since Carr signed with Carolina, the possibility of Quinn dropping to the 23 spot as one mock draft suggested becomes much more of a reality. Remember Marino dropped to the 28 spot. We switch places with KC for Trent if that is what they want, effectively they move up draft ladder with an invisible non existing 2nd round pick, and we get Quinn at the 23 spot saving both money and draft picks.
What mock draft suggested this? He would not fall out of the top 10!

Ronnie Bass
04-09-2007, 10:59 PM
They'll probably want both of our 2nds though
I'd still do it, this franchise isn't going anywhere till we get ourselvers a franchise QB.

GridIronKing34
04-09-2007, 11:09 PM
You bet I'd do it... I'd offer a 3rd first... play hardball... The Skins would cave.

HybridPHIN 23
04-09-2007, 11:11 PM
#60 and one of our 6ths or our 3rd

i'd love it if it only cost us Welker and Mare to move up..... or a 3rd........ no biggie to get the QB most Dolphins fans are dying to have.

zach8111
04-09-2007, 11:27 PM
a 1st and our third would do it acording to the draft value chart, but i would still give up our late 2nd for him.

badbutt316
04-09-2007, 11:46 PM
I voted no because I think the fins can get away by just giving up their 3rd and a 6th (#199) and not their 2nd to move 3 spots to take quinn.

Agent51
04-10-2007, 01:22 AM
What mock draft suggested this? He would not fall out of the top 10!

The crappy Sporting News Draft Guide :lol:

Agent51
04-10-2007, 01:26 AM
Here's a scenario for you. Since Carr signed with Carolina, the possibility of Quinn dropping to the 23 spot as one mock draft suggested becomes much more of a reality. Remember Marino dropped to the 28 spot. We switch places with KC for Trent if that is what they want, effectively they move up draft ladder with an invisible non existing 2nd round pick, and we get Quinn at the 23 spot saving both money and draft picks.

1st, That Sporting News Draft Guide is a joke, I'd burn it (I threw mine away).

2nd, Even IF Quinn could slide to 23, we would just take him at 9. We would never trade to 23 with KC because yu NEVER know who is going to see a top 3 talent slip to them mid-roud and take him just for value. There are plenty of teams between 9 and 23 that could use a QB, and no way do they pass on him, and there is no way of predicting that, so why would we give up the chance to take him at 9 and bank on that? Besides, if he is rumored to go to KC at 23, why would KC not just take them when they switch spots with us, thus completely destroying the point of the switch in the first place?

MustangFinFan
04-10-2007, 07:58 AM
if Quinn was available at the Redskins spot...i would NOT make a trade with Washington, simply because Washington doesnt need a QB. they have Jason Campbell, so there's no way they are drafting Quinn. now whoever is right past the Skins (Vikings??)...then perhaps id take Quinn...altho the Vikings have that other young guy grooming behind Johnson.

NorFlaFin
04-10-2007, 08:02 AM
Other then the second coming of Tony Boselli, I'm not moving up for any player. Quinn included.

phinphanforever
04-10-2007, 09:20 AM
The ninth overall pick + the sixtieth overall pick

FOR

The sixth overall pick
No chance. Nada. Donut. Zilch. Zero. If Quinn happens to fall to nine, I would gladly trade the pick away for more picks.

phinphanforever
04-10-2007, 09:22 AM
this franchise isn't going anywhere till we get ourselvers a franchise QB.
Agreed, then why draft Brady Quinn?

Pennington's Rocket Arm
04-10-2007, 10:35 AM
because quinn is a prototypical franchise quarterback. :wink:

BlueFin
04-10-2007, 11:45 AM
The ninth overall pick + the sixtieth overall pick

FOR

The sixth overall pick

Yes, but by the chart that is overpaying a bit, I'd offer the 3rd and a 7th.

Shula1
04-10-2007, 11:58 AM
Yes I would make that trade...whens the last time the Dolphins have moved up in the draft to grab a potential franchise player?? I say Cam & Randy take a chance in there first ever draft together and make this happen.

Quinn would no doubt become the franchise type QB we've lacked for some time now. (I also have no idea why I can't get the Italic font to go away?)

SgtPhin
04-10-2007, 12:44 PM
If Snyder wants more than our 1st and 3rd he could talk to someone else. But for 1 and 3 for a good QB prospect, yeah- I'd do it.

Myles Fynch
04-10-2007, 01:05 PM
The ninth overall pick + the sixtieth overall pick

FOR

The sixth overall pick

I voted yes, but with reservations. If Washington wasn't so pick-strapped I'd make them throw in their 5th rounder, but they're hurting so they won't go for it. So it's more than I'd like to give up, but if you think Quinn's the guy then it's not too much. If you don't think Quinn's the guy no trade up or trade down for him will put a smile on your face.

Ronnie Bass
04-10-2007, 02:04 PM
Agreed, then why draft Brady Quinn?
If you don't like him, that's your problem.

phinphanforever
04-10-2007, 10:22 PM
If you don't like him, that's your problem.
How is it a problem? I think it very much to be the solution.:D