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OneHondo
04-10-2007, 07:06 PM
With all of the pre draft hype, speculation and wishing, what will it take for Mueller and Cameron to do in the draft to be considered a success and to satisfy most Dolphin fans?
With all of the past draft blunders and busts it seems like they will be under a microscope to prove they can be successfull and good judges of talent.
I was wondering by what standard they would be judged. A couple of big names? Good players on the first day? Impact players, project players or players with potential? How about if 80% of the drafted players were on the offensive side of the ball or the reverse. It seems like this will more than likely be a big issue after the draft with the media and fans judging their draft results and I was wondering what people expect to see.

Any thoughts???

Bill C
04-10-2007, 08:01 PM
To me - for the draft to be considered a success, given this team's state and the relative lack of activity in FA - to be considered a success we would need 3 starters from the first four picks, solid contributions from half of the day 2 picks, and have at least 70% of the picks make the final roster.

CitizenSnips
04-10-2007, 08:44 PM
How about one of the players we take in the draft this year becomes a pro bowler this year? I think that would just about do it for me.

PhinGeneral
04-10-2007, 08:56 PM
Unless they do something totally illogical or brilliant on draft day, I think judging a team's draft right afterward is fairly pointless.

Give it 2-3 years and see what bounty we ultimately got. Getting people who can step in and start practically right away is nice, but that doesn't always mean you have a good player there. Many times they can just be non-descript hole fillers.

ChambersWI
04-10-2007, 09:03 PM
unless we take a QB, the frst round pick should get significant PT if not start. Say we draft Carriker, he wn't start, pero he'd get a lot of PT. If we pick a CB/DT/DE, he does't need to start right away, but he better getmore PT than Allen did last year at the start of the season. If we draft a tackle, they've got to start. Maybe not at LT, but somewhere on the line.

If you lookat the 05 season for us, we were successful because Ronnie,Roth,Crowder, Daniels, and Manny all got significant PT (as well as Linehan being a great pro bowler). Last year we did not get the same production from our rookies.

As I've said in the past, if we take Ted Ginn at 9, I will be disappointed, but if we can trade down a couple spots and get him, I'd like the pick (don't feel ike he's worth a top 10 pick).

malzj
04-10-2007, 10:25 PM
trading up and drafting CJ and then him becoming the stud we all think he will be. If that happened... I will... I'll think of that if the time ever comes.

Phanatical
04-10-2007, 11:55 PM
With all of the pre draft hype, speculation and wishing, what will it take for Mueller and Cameron to do in the draft to be considered a success and to satisfy most Dolphin fans?
With all of the past draft blunders and busts it seems like they will be under a microscope to prove they can be successfull and good judges of talent.
I was wondering by what standard they would be judged. A couple of big names? Good players on the first day? Impact players, project players or players with potential? How about if 80% of the drafted players were on the offensive side of the ball or the reverse. It seems like this will more than likely be a big issue after the draft with the media and fans judging their draft results and I was wondering what people expect to see.

Any thoughts???

If they get a legitimate starting quality QB and LT that would be a great start.

GO PHINS~!

dahlmarino
04-11-2007, 12:48 AM
A minimum of 3 players who can compete to start immediately, filling needs with the best possible players available, and taking the right risks (as opposed to the infamous Eddie Moore and Jamar Fletcher type risks).

Bill C
04-11-2007, 11:59 AM
Unless they do something totally illogical or brilliant on draft day, I think judging a team's draft right afterward is fairly pointless.

Give it 2-3 years and see what bounty we ultimately got. Getting people who can step in and start practically right away is nice, but that doesn't always mean you have a good player there. Many times they can just be non-descript hole fillers.

I used to agree with this philosophy, but not in the current NFL. In three years time, those rookies contracts will be expiring and they will want bigger money than they already received.

The rookies today, especially a top 10 pick, command a disproportionate amount of cap space - they need to contribute right away.

Lab3003
04-11-2007, 02:18 PM
With all of the pre draft hype, speculation and wishing, what will it take for Mueller and Cameron to do in the draft to be considered a success and to satisfy most Dolphin fans?
With all of the past draft blunders and busts it seems like they will be under a microscope to prove they can be successfull and good judges of talent.
I was wondering by what standard they would be judged. A couple of big names? Good players on the first day? Impact players, project players or players with potential? How about if 80% of the drafted players were on the offensive side of the ball or the reverse. It seems like this will more than likely be a big issue after the draft with the media and fans judging their draft results and I was wondering what people expect to see.

Any thoughts???

The standard should be the % of those drafted becoming starters being greater than 60%. One of the picks should become a significant starter, especially on a team that went 6-10.

PhinGeneral
04-11-2007, 07:05 PM
I used to agree with this philosophy, but not in the current NFL. In three years time, those rookies contracts will be expiring and they will want bigger money than they already received.

The rookies today, especially a top 10 pick, command a disproportionate amount of cap space - they need to contribute right away.

I understand your point, but contributing doesn't necessarily equal successful draft. Yes, your top 10 pick should contribute off the bat, but later picks may take a few years to see if they truly made the draft successful. I don't want a bunch of mediocrity just because they fill a hole.

PhinSoldia
04-11-2007, 09:15 PM
If they get a legitimate starting quality QB and LT that would be a great start.

GO PHINS~!

agreed-we will have to have a QB whether it be in draft or trade and 3 quality offenive players

Bill C
04-17-2007, 01:36 PM
I understand your point, but contributing doesn't necessarily equal successful draft. Yes, your top 10 pick should contribute off the bat, but later picks may take a few years to see if they truly made the draft successful. I don't want a bunch of mediocrity just because they fill a hole.

Completely agree.