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kashbo
04-12-2007, 01:48 PM
Well I know most of you would not like ted ginn jr with the 9th pick, but this years draft is loaded with recievers we need to pick up steve smith in my opinion in the second round, also drew stanton but thats another story if not steve smith, gonzalez is available.

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 01:52 PM
You are right about Ginn....I don't want him. Runs terrible routes and can't seem to recover from injury fast enough.

All that being said.... I would rather try an OL and a QB at 2nd rd if we can't get Quinn at 9. We go L. Brown with #9, go Stanton on 2a and a WR or another OL on 2b.

I like Meacham, Sidney Rice or even Dwayne Jarrett (yes I know he isnt a burner so dont go there). But anything is a possibility at this point.

kashbo
04-12-2007, 01:54 PM
You are right about Ginn....I don't want him. Runs terrible routes and can't seem to recover from injury fast enough.

All that being said.... I would rather try an OL and a QB at 2nd rd if we can't get Quinn at 9. We go L. Brown with #9, go Stanton on 2a and a WR or another OL on 2b.

I like Meacham, Sidney Rice or even Dwayne Jarrett (yes I know he isnt a burner so dont go there). But anything is a possibility at this point.

great point, but would sidney rice be avaiable in the 2nd, I really dont think so, but yeah I was a ginn supporter but now hes just sucks

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 01:57 PM
great point, but would sidney rice be avaiable in the 2nd, I really dont think so, but yeah I was a ginn supporter but now hes just sucks


He may be there in the 2nd. Not too much on the kid so he may be under the radar. It is a huge possibilty. Ginn is and was overrated. I never liked him. The WR on OSU outside of him are so much better. Ginn is good as a PR/KR at best.....ya know...can only run straight lines without having to run a route...lol

maverick50
04-12-2007, 02:06 PM
i agree with otown on ginn i hope and i mean i really hope that we get gonzales or jarrett or wr craig davis . let me ask you guys a question here. what if we could fix our oline and we bring in 2 wrs and a te and then bet a qb like kolb would you all be angry if we added some real competition to the receiving corp ?:cooldude:

kashbo
04-12-2007, 02:09 PM
i agree with otown on ginn i hope and i mean i really hope that we get gonzales or jarrett or wr craig davis . let me ask you guys a question here. what if we could fix our oline and we bring in 2 wrs and a te and then bet a qb like kolb would you all be angry if we added some real competition to the receiving corp ?:cooldude:

not really ?I really would like our second round pick for welker to be a WR better than him you know, gonzalez would be ggreat

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 02:11 PM
i agree with otown on ginn i hope and i mean i really hope that we get gonzales or jarrett or wr craig davis . let me ask you guys a question here. what if we could fix our oline and we bring in 2 wrs and a te and then bet a qb like kolb would you all be angry if we added some real competition to the receiving corp ?:cooldude:


To answer your question. I think we really only need 1 really good speedy WR that has good hands and can run good routes. I think for the moment we are decent at TE but we could pick up one in the later rounds. I would love to get Olsen but he will be gone at the time we are filling some voids. I think we need at least 2 OL out of our first 3 picks. As far as Kolb....no way. I would go for Stanton or Edwards before even putting him in my thoughts. If we get Quinn at 9 then I say WR and OL with the next 2 picks....

12MaN
04-12-2007, 02:22 PM
You are right about Ginn....I don't want him. Runs terrible routes and can't seem to recover from injury fast enough.

All that being said.... I would rather try an OL and a QB at 2nd rd if we can't get Quinn at 9. We go L. Brown with #9, go Stanton on 2a and a WR or another OL on 2b.

I like Meacham, Sidney Rice or even Dwayne Jarrett (yes I know he isnt a burner so dont go there). But anything is a possibility at this point.


Good point if Quinn is not there than we go OL,QB,WR with the first three picks but if their is a lock down CB that fell to the second round I think we would have to consider it as well.

zach8111
04-12-2007, 02:25 PM
my WR in order go....
calvin johnson
robert meachem
ted ginn jr
dwayne bowe
sidney rice
steve smith
dwayne jarrett
i like all these WR and would like any of them. i really like jarretts hands but his speed wasnt the greatest. but i think he would preform better in a game.

Motion
04-12-2007, 02:26 PM
I'd love to have Meachem or Bowe if either somehow slipped to the 2nd.

Lab3003
04-12-2007, 02:27 PM
Just say no to Levi Brown.

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 02:28 PM
Good point if Quinn is not there than we go OL,QB,WR with the first three picks but if their is a lock down CB that fell to the second round I think we would have to consider it as well.


I agree. It should be a consideration. If we could get one around 2b then great but if there isn't one, then we go WR...one would think. I think it is even possible to get one of those WR I mentioned at the top of the 3rd if need be. Who knows really.

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 02:30 PM
Just say no to Levi Brown.


Well...considering we need OL help and Joe Thomas is all but gone withing the first 4 picks (according to mocks), who else do you have in mind that has the talent and ability to start now. No one really stands out with those long arms, athletic ability and can move a little.

YetanotherFan
04-12-2007, 02:58 PM
I dont know O .... I like Mr. Ginn. He definitely has got some rocket engines for legs, which we desperately need. He may be an unpolished route runner but can improve through TC and as the season progresses. Going by Boomers posts about him (very good read I thought), the dude has cat like athleticism and can make a cut going full speed like no other. It also could be said that he was garnering most of the attention at Ohio State and thats why the other receivers had the better production.

Going by our need of a true flanker, I would not want Gonzalez. I thought Meacham and Bowe looked more polished and smoother than the other guys. I am not sure if these guys will be there in the 2nd round though.

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 03:11 PM
I dont know O .... I like Mr. Ginn. He definitely has got some rocket engines for legs, which we desperately need. He may be an unpolished route runner but can improve through TC and as the season progresses. Going by Boomers posts about him (very good read I thought), the dude has cat like athleticism and can make a cut going full speed like no other. It also could be said that he was garnering most of the attention at Ohio State and thats why the other receivers had the better production.

Going by our need of a true flanker, I would not want Gonzalez. I thought Meacham and Bowe looked more polished and smoother than the other guys. I am not sure if these guys will be there in the 2nd round though.


I give you that about his speed. He did run that KO back on my Gators in the BCS game but then something happened.... He got hurt by someone stepping on his foot and has been out ever since. It seems the consensus on the guy is he gets hurt easy and then it is hard for hom to recover. I mean...the BCS was like months ago and he is still showing affects from it. I know he has speed and I agree we could use it.....but not at #9. There is much more talent out there that has the all around package.

YetanotherFan
04-12-2007, 03:35 PM
I give you that about his speed. He did run that KO back on my Gators in the BCS game but then something happened.... He got hurt by someone stepping on his foot and has been out ever since. It seems the consensus on the guy is he gets hurt easy and then it is hard for hom to recover. I mean...the BCS was like months ago and he is still showing affects from it. I know he has speed and I agree we could use it.....but not at #9. There is much more talent out there that has the all around package.

I have some reservations about picking him at #9 also, but would not be real upset if they did. If we could somehow trade down and get him would be the best scenario baring the miracle slipage of Brady Quinn to #9.

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 03:39 PM
I have some reservations about picking him at #9 also, but would not be real upset if they did. If we could somehow trade down and get him would be the best scenario baring the miracle slipage of Brady Quinn to #9.


Maybe but I am just not sold on the kid Fan. Like I said....much better all around talent out there that could handle the everyday wear and tear of the NFL.....JMO.

musphinzfan
04-12-2007, 04:01 PM
Fairly deep draft at WR...Alot in the 1st 3 rds...I wouldnt be shocked if Miami grabs 1 with 1 of the 1st 4 selections.

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 04:06 PM
Fairly deep draft at WR...Alot in the 1st 3 rds...I wouldnt be shocked if Miami grabs 1 with 1 of the 1st 4 selections.


I agree....I am thinking they may go QB #9 or top of the 2nd....then WR by 2b or top of the 3rd....JMO

tay0365
04-12-2007, 04:21 PM
Well I know most of you would not like ted ginn jr with the 9th pick, but this years draft is loaded with recievers we need to pick up steve smith in my opinion in the second round, also drew stanton but thats another story if not steve smith, gonzalez is available.


Gonzalez could be a great pickup for us if we can get him with our late 2nd round pick or later. I know he might not last that long, but if he did, I have a feeling he could be a special player only lacking a little size.

Agent51
04-12-2007, 04:28 PM
OK, I am looking at the Draft Tek mock right now, and they have 6 WRs going in round two. Out of these 6, which one would everyone take?

Dwayne Jarrett, USC
Steve Smith, USC
Anthonzy Gonzalez, Ohio State
Sidney Rice, South Carolina
Craig Davis, LSU
Jason Hill, WSU

That is the order they have them going in, and Dwyane Jarrett is the only one taken before we pick at #40. Now, this isn't a debate on who will or won;t fall to round 2, or who will or will not be available when we pick at #40 or #60, or if you'd rather have a different position at those picks. I am simply asking which of those 6 WRs you would take (only 1 choice, as I'm assuming we aren't going to spend both 2nd rounders WRs)

tay0365
04-12-2007, 04:31 PM
OK, I am looking at the Draft Tek mock right now, and they have 6 WRs going in round two. Out of these 6, which one would everyone take?

Dwayne Jarrett, USC
Steve Smith, USC
Anthonzy Gonzalez, Ohio State
Sidney Rice, South Carolina
Craig Davis, LSU
Jason Hill, WSU

That is the order they have them going in, and Dwyane Jarrett is the only one taken before we pick at #40. Now, this isn't a debate on who will or won;t fall to round 2, or who will or will not be available when we pick at #40 or #60, or if you'd rather have a different position at those picks. I am simply asking which of those 6 WRs you would take (only 1 choice, as I'm assuming we aren't going to spend both 2nd rounders WRs)

This is the order I would put them:

Dwayne Jarrett, USC
Sidney Rice, South Carolina
Anthonzy Gonzalez, Ohio State
Steve Smith, USC
Craig Davis, LSU
Jason Hill, WSU

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 04:35 PM
This is the order I would put them:

Dwayne Jarrett, USC
Sidney Rice, South Carolina
Anthonzy Gonzalez, Ohio State
Steve Smith, USC
Craig Davis, LSU
Jason Hill, WSU



I would go with that list but I would even add Bowe as well from LSU. A lot of good WR out there....

Agent51
04-12-2007, 04:50 PM
I would go with that list but I would even add Bowe as well from LSU. A lot of good WR out there....

Well for the sake of this arguement we used only the WRs projected in Draft Tek's mock in round 2, and Bowe was gone in round one in that mock :up:

I agree though, I'd take Bowe over all those guys, then my order would probably go:

Rice
Jarret
Gonzalez
Smith
Hill
Davis

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 04:53 PM
Well for the sake of this arguement we used only the WRs projected in Draft Tek's mock in round 2, and Bowe was gone in round one in that mock :up:

I agree though, I'd take Bowe over all those guys, then my order would probably go:

Rice
Jarret
Gonzalez
Smith
Hill
Davis


Then I could deal with that......lol.

tay0365
04-12-2007, 04:58 PM
I would go with that list but I would even add Bowe as well from LSU. A lot of good WR out there....

I doubt either reaches the 2nd, but if Jarrett or Bowe were still there when we picked, that would be amazing, and I would be in sheer panic if we also gave any signs of also passing both up.

O'townPhinFan
04-12-2007, 05:00 PM
I doubt either reaches the 2nd, but if Jarrett or Bowe were still there when we picked, that would be amazing, and I would be in sheer panic if we also gave any signs of also passing both up.



I hear ya. If we passed on both if they were available...I would go to Davie personally and hit WH in the ear.....

tay0365
04-12-2007, 05:02 PM
Well for the sake of this arguement we used only the WRs projected in Draft Tek's mock in round 2, and Bowe was gone in round one in that mock :up:

I agree though, I'd take Bowe over all those guys, then my order would probably go:

Rice
Jarret
Gonzalez
Smith
Hill
Davis

Putting Rice ahead of Jarret In a way is understandable, because Rice does have a higher ceiling, but Right now Jarret is a more polished product, and more ready to go.

Elliott 1
04-12-2007, 05:23 PM
Unless Booker or Chambers is traded we won't be drafting a WR 1st day.

What are you guys thinking?

Chambers,Booker,Hagan,Hakim,Campbell,Vick,Sam

Chambers is getting 7 mil, Booker is getting 3.7 mil. Do you think we are going to bench these guys?

Hagan was last years 3rd pick and played very well at the end of last year.
He isn't going anywhere.

Welker has already been replaced with Hakim,Campbell,Vick and Jesse Chatmann is another P,K returner.

We would be wasting a 1st day pick.

musphinzfan
04-12-2007, 06:24 PM
Unless Booker or Chambers is traded we won't be drafting a WR 1st day.

What are you guys thinking?

Chambers,Booker,Hagan,Hakim,Campbell,Vick,Sam

Chambers is getting 7 mil, Booker is getting 3.7 mil. Do you think we are going to bench these guys?

Hagan was last years 3rd pick and played very well at the end of last year.
He isn't going anywhere.

Welker has already been replaced with Hakim,Campbell,Vick and Jesse Chatmann is another P,K returner.

We would be wasting a 1st day pick.

So Hakim,Campbell,Vick and Chatman...These guys are has beens and never will be's...and to see Hagan get 21 ctchers for 220 yards doesnt warrant any idea of us haven some1 to replace Welker.

Welker can catch the ball the rest of these guys cant catch crap...WR is a need and hopefully it will be addressed in the 1st 3 rds.

clbrazee
04-12-2007, 07:05 PM
Good point if Quinn is not there than we go OL,QB,WR with the first three picks but if their is a lock down CB that fell to the second round I think we would have to consider it as well.

Concur with this totally.

Dfan06
04-12-2007, 07:09 PM
If we were to get Quinn at nine, I would go tackle and corner. I hope jason hill is available in the 4th round

finfan54
04-12-2007, 07:37 PM
Jason Hill 4.3 40. Here ya go. #40? #60?

utahphinsfan
04-12-2007, 09:06 PM
Jason Hill 4.3 40. Here ya go. #40? #60?

I hope 40. He might not be there @ 60.

According to the Street & Smiths which I purchased, Hill is 6'1" 205 and is a 3 year starter @ WR.

Sounds much more polished and a more typical frame for a WR than say... Ted Ginn, Jr

Imagine the love he'd be getting if he weren't in the same conference as D. Jarrett.

TRUEPHIN
04-12-2007, 09:28 PM
With our 4 first day picks, I hope we pick OT, C, WR and CB. Our WR needs to be a speed guy or we are wasting our pick. We need somebody to stretch the defense and draw some double coverage. This would really help Chambers. I wouldn't mind Gonzalez or Hill. Our WR corp would then be Chambers, Booker, Hagan, rookie and Hakim. Not too shabby imo. :) We could then cut Vick, Campbell and Sam immediately. They all suck anyways.