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Elliott 1
04-17-2007, 06:23 AM
The Miami Dolphins frustrated by the selections made ahead of them in the 1st round are faced with selecting either Adrian Peterson or Amobi Okoye as BPA. Seeing as how they have 8 DT's on their roster and another DT in limbo, and how they have two good RB's already; they accept a trade offer from the Cleveland Browns.

Cleveland offers their 2nd,3rd,4th and 5th round choices for the #9 pick, CB Andre Goodman and two 7th round picks.

Cleveland gets what they wanted, Brady Quinn and Adrian Peterson and a quality CB. Miami gets these picks: #36,#40,#60,#67,#71,#103,#108,#140,#181,#199,#219

Would you do this trade??
Who would you draft??
These are my choices:

Blaylock OG
Jonathan Wade CB
Doug Free OT
Samson Satele C
Kolb QB
Soliai DT
Wendling S
Sepulveda P
Gabe Hall OT
Jacob Ford DE
Craig Dahl S

Alex44
04-17-2007, 06:31 AM
No team is going to give up nearly an entire draft to another team. Cleveland has about as many holes as swiss cheese, and while it would be a great Madden trade it's about as realistic as me entering next season as the starting QB of the Colts.

miamiron
04-17-2007, 06:33 AM
Elliott...6:23 in the morning and you haven't stoped drinking yet...
that has to be the only reason or excuse for the post.

Do you in a right frame of mind think that there is one millionth percentile chance of that happening in the real world????????

I think you can figure out if I would do your fantasy trade by what was said above....

TampaFinsFan01
04-17-2007, 06:39 AM
The Miami Dolphins frustrated by the selections made ahead of them in the 1st round are faced with selecting either Adrian Peterson or Amobi Okoye as BPA. Seeing as how they have 8 DT's on their roster and another DT in limbo, and how they have two good RB's already; they accept a trade offer from the Cleveland Browns.

Cleveland offers their 2nd,3rd,4th and 5th round choices for the #9 pick, CB Andre Goodman and two 7th round picks.

Cleveland gets what they wanted, Brady Quinn and Adrian Peterson and a quality CB. Miami gets these picks: #36,#40,#60,#67,#71,#103,#108,#140,#181,#199,#219

Would you do this trade??
Who would you draft??
These are my choices:

Blaylock OG
Jonathan Wade CB
Doug Free OT
Samson Satele C
Kolb QB
Soliai DT
Wendling S
Sepulveda P
Gabe Hall OT
Jacob Ford DE
Craig Dahl S

No. If Cleveland wants the number nine pick, it costs them a second and third this year and a first and third next year. Esp if its Peterson. Hes a top five rated player. To get that kind of value and number 9, they have to pay and pay dearly.

zonk4ever
04-17-2007, 06:48 AM
Although reality cannot be confused with this scenario, I think it would be awesome! I give you praise for even being able to come up with something like that. While the rest of the football world is waking up, you're way ahead of all of them. Great Job!!!!

Irish Phin Fan
04-17-2007, 08:17 AM
:shakeno:

Dredd1050
04-17-2007, 08:23 AM
I'm not understanding, how can Cleveland get Peterson and Quinn?

EDIT: I read it wrong, I thought they were giving Miami their 3rd overall pick. Anyway, this will not happen.

Elliott 1
04-17-2007, 08:48 AM
No team is going to give up nearly an entire draft to another team. Cleveland has about as many holes as swiss cheese, and while it would be a great Madden trade it's about as realistic as me entering next season as the starting QB of the Colts.

Actually if you check the chart it's the Dolphins who would be giving up around 400 points and a player. If it's a crazy trade, it's crazy for the Dolphins, definitely not the Browns.
Check the chart.
http://www.theredzone.org/2005/draft/draftvaluechart.asp

aquaman
04-17-2007, 08:48 AM
no... but cleveland and miami can strike up a deal.. if browns get quinn we take peterson and trade him ala manning for rivers.

FrankieG
04-17-2007, 09:53 AM
That doesn't make sense. They could just draft Peterson then instead. (To the above poster)

ckparrothead
04-17-2007, 09:57 AM
no... but cleveland and miami can strike up a deal.. if browns get quinn we take peterson and trade him ala manning for rivers.

This is a scenario that I very much hope Randy Mueller is taking account of. In his most recent article he mentions trying to talk about every scenario so that it doesn't come as a surprise on draft day. This falls as one of those scenarios that I would deem there to be a decent chance of playing out.

Fact of the matter is, if Oakland takes Russell, then Cleveland is picking between Quinn and Peterson. If they pick Quinn, and Peterson falls all the way to #9 (another big IF) then Miami could take Peterson and send up a trade.

The question is how much would we have to give. Probably a lot. That would hurt.

ckparrothead
04-17-2007, 10:04 AM
That doesn't make sense. They could just draft Peterson then instead. (To the above poster)

Not true. Else, why didn't San Diego just take Rivers at #1 overall, since that was who they wanted and Eli Manning made it clear he did not want to go to the Chargers?

Fact of the matter is just because Cleveland ends up preferring Quinn to Peterson, that doesn't mean they'd still prefer Quinn to Peterson if getting Peterson meant ALSO picking up the #40 and #71 overall picks in the draft.

It is a very real possibility.

fishypete
04-17-2007, 10:47 AM
Not true. Else, why didn't San Diego just take Rivers at #1 overall, since that was who they wanted and Eli Manning made it clear he did not want to go to the Chargers?

Fact of the matter is just because Cleveland ends up preferring Quinn to Peterson, that doesn't mean they'd still prefer Quinn to Peterson if getting Peterson meant ALSO picking up the #40 and #71 overall picks in the draft.

It is a very real possibility.

Never say Never....but I could see either GB or the Giants doing a deal before the Browns.

Todd347347
04-17-2007, 11:04 AM
As much as I want a franchise QB, I am really adverse to trading up and losing more than 1 pick. Trading to 6 for 60 is imo ok, but I wouldn't go any further than that :)

Ronski_doodle
04-17-2007, 12:14 PM
Thats like $30million in signing bonuses for those two top 10 picks. Unlikely to happen, I can see Cleveland taking Quinn and Kalil in the second if he falls.

LarryFinFan
04-17-2007, 12:29 PM
Elliot...sounds like too much Madden to me...

Irish Phin Fan
04-17-2007, 01:07 PM
I just wish the draft would hurry up and get here.

PhinGeneral
04-17-2007, 01:14 PM
The Miami Dolphins frustrated by the selections made ahead of them in the 1st round are faced with selecting either Adrian Peterson or Amobi Okoye as BPA. Seeing as how they have 8 DT's on their roster and another DT in limbo, and how they have two good RB's already; they accept a trade offer from the Cleveland Browns.

Cleveland offers their 2nd,3rd,4th and 5th round choices for the #9 pick, CB Andre Goodman and two 7th round picks.

Cleveland gets what they wanted, Brady Quinn and Adrian Peterson and a quality CB. Miami gets these picks: #36,#40,#60,#67,#71,#103,#108,#140,#181,#199,#219

Would you do this trade??
Who would you draft??
These are my choices:

Blaylock OG
Jonathan Wade CB
Doug Free OT
Samson Satele C
Kolb QB
Soliai DT
Wendling S
Sepulveda P
Gabe Hall OT
Jacob Ford DE
Craig Dahl S

No, I wouldn't trade down that far. Quantity doesn't always equate to quality.

Alex44
04-17-2007, 03:13 PM
Actually if you check the chart it's the Dolphins who would be giving up around 400 points and a player. If it's a crazy trade, it's crazy for the Dolphins, definitely not the Browns.
Check the chart.
http://www.theredzone.org/2005/draft/draftvaluechart.asp

To clarify I mean't it would be a great Madden trade for the Browns.