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Big Free
04-18-2007, 10:08 PM
I know that we are real hopeful of a successful draft. Here is a little bit of history on Rick Mueller's abilities as a talent evaluator.





http://bremertonians.blogspot.com/2005/01/case-for-randy-mueller.html

Phanatical
04-18-2007, 10:13 PM
Great read. It's amazing all the talent that guy brought into the NFL.

GO PHINS~!

eomdtbtr
04-18-2007, 10:19 PM
He seems like he's pretty good in the draft...

jab
04-18-2007, 10:42 PM
Here is the complete draft history for the Saints . . . http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/teams/NO

. . . still pretty good, not great, but good.

Paul 13
04-18-2007, 11:05 PM
I wouldn't ordinarily point this out, but you mean Randy Mueller... I only point it out because you used Rick... I recall something about us having a GM by the name of Rick and it didn't work out too well heh... GREAT READ BY THE WAY! It's funny because this morning I was going to do some research on Mueller and what types of players he has picked in the past, don't think I need to do that now, thanks.

Big Free
04-18-2007, 11:08 PM
I wouldn't ordinarily point this out, but you mean Randy Mueller... I only point it out because you used Rick... I recall something about us having a GM by the name of Rick and it didn't work out too well heh... GREAT READ BY THE WAY! It's funny because this morning I was going to do some research on Mueller and what types of players he has picked in the past, don't think I need to do that now, thanks.


My bag. Rick is his brother.

Rubbin420
04-18-2007, 11:17 PM
I like what hes been able to do with his first round picks. Even at times he took a player he didnt need. (Deuce)
Worked out well.

I cant wait to see how he does in Miami with all the power to choose. He can show what hes made of. God knows we need a good draft.

Losing Nick Saban.....0 dollars
Losing 10+ free agents 0 dollars
10 picks in the draft.........Priceless.

Paul 13
04-19-2007, 12:11 AM
To add (notice the quantity of late round picks in 2000's draft for the Saints, his first running their show):

1995
1 8 Joey Galloway WR Ohio State
2 39 Christian Fauria TE Colorado
4 126 Jason Kyle LS Arizona State
6 180 Henry McMillian DT Florida
6 203 Eddie Goines WR North Carolina State
7 216 Keif Bryant DE Rutgers

1996
1 21 Pete Kendall G Boston College
2 47 Fred Thomas CB Tennessee-Martin
3 77 Robert Barr T Rutgers
3 91 Reggie Brown RB Fresno State
4 99 Phillip Daniels DE Georgia
4 131 Eric Unverzagt LB Wisconsin
6 184 Reggie Green G Florida
6 209 T.J. Cunningham DB Colorado
7 225 Johnie Church DE Florida

1997
1 3 Shawn Springs CB Ohio State
1 6 Walter Jones T Florida State
5 142 Eric Stokes DB Nebraska
6 174 Itula Mili TE Brigham Young
7 211 Carlos Jones CB Miami

1998
1 15 Anthony Simmons OLB Clemson
2 47 Todd Weiner T Kansas State
3 76 Ahman Green RB Nebraska
4 108 DeShone Myles MLB Nevada
6 162 Carl Hansen DE Stanford
6 169 Bobby Shaw WR California
7 197 Jason McEndoo C Washington State

2000
2 33 Darren Howard DE Kansas State
4 96 Terrelle Smith FB Arizona State
5 131 Tutan Reyes G Mississippi
5 158 Austin Wheatley TE Iowa
5 166 Chad Morton KR Southern California
6 168 Marc Bulger QB West Virginia
6 195 Michael Hawthorne FS Purdue
6 200 Sherrod Gideon WR Southern Mississippi
7 228 Kevin Houser LS Ohio State

2001
1 23 Deuce McAllister RB Mississippi
3 70 Sedrick Hodge OLB North Carolina
3 81 Kenny Smith DT Alabama
4 115 Moran Norris FB Kansas
5 153 Onome Ojo WR Cal-Davis
6 185 Mitch White T Oregon State
7 221 Ennis Davis DT Southern California

2002
1 13 Donte' Stallworth WR Tennessee
1 25 Charles Grant DE Georgia
2 44 LeCharles Bentley C Ohio State
3 82 James Allen OLB Oregon State
4 125 Keyuo Craver CB Nebraska
5 150 Mel Mitchell SS Western Kentucky
6 186 J.T. O'Sullivan QB Cal-Davis
6 196 John Gilmore TE Penn State
7 224 Derrius Monroe DE Virginia Tech

Jaj
04-19-2007, 12:13 AM
Hitting on your first round picks is very underrated. Some love to look for steals, but hitting on the big investments is the key.

Perfect23
04-19-2007, 12:32 AM
who's rick mueller

PeterNorth
04-19-2007, 12:42 AM
Look at some of those O Line picks he made. His hit rate at that position is pretty remarkable. Granted, many of them were early picks, but is still very impressive none the less. If I can see any discernible pattern other than that, it looks like he was always very strong in the early part of drafts, and not so hot at all in the latter rounds. Of course we would all like to see some later round gems unearthed by Randy, but it is more important that he really make the earlier picks count.

The more I think about him drafting McAllister when they had Ricky, I am finding it more likely that he could easily pull the trigger on a guy like Patrick Willis if Quinn is gone or they don't make a move up to get him. I suppose that also makes Adrian Peterson more of a possibility too, but I still just can't see that one happening. It would be one thing if we were picking in the 20's, but to pay another running back 9th pick money when we already have so much tied up in Ronnie Brown would be a bit much.

Paul 13
04-19-2007, 01:00 AM
Did this real quick, but this is the break down of players by conference, for what it's worth

ACC=7
Big East=3
Big 10=7
Pac 10=8
Big 12=8
SEC=9
CUSA=1
WAC=1
MWC=1
Other=5

FinAtic8480
04-19-2007, 01:10 AM
What WoWs me is how many players that he has chosen are still playing today. While alot of our players chosen in the Draft are either gone from football or playing back-ups for other teams. Another thing was how he was the one who drafted Bulger. If we miss out on Quinn Randy might very well hit on a late QB. I dont know about you guys, but Marc has been a very good QB for the last 5 years or so. Another thing I like is how he is not scared to move up in the first round.I really hope Randy has his best draft yet

FinAtic8480
04-19-2007, 01:12 AM
Did this real quick, but this is the break down of players by conference, for what it's worth

ACC=7
Big East=3
Big 10=7
Pac 10=8
Big 12=8
SEC=9
CUSA=1
WAC=1
MWC=1
Other=5


Atleast he is not afraid to Draft players out of the SEC, cough Saban. Crowder,Daniels, Allen, Ronnie Brown and Aromashadu.

umpalu
04-19-2007, 02:03 AM
ok so after that read we need to give him a lifetime contract worth whatever he wants. That is an amazing amount of talent he is finding at all levels of the draft, but his first rounders seem to be money every time. simply amazing.

Skeet84
04-19-2007, 02:12 AM
He does not make the picks all by himself. He goes by what scouts and the Head coach say also. The way it should be

DaFish
04-19-2007, 03:56 AM
He does not make the picks all by himself. He goes by what scouts and the Head coach say also. The way it should be

Just like Wanny and Rick?
(jk)
:sidelol:

Saint Greg
04-19-2007, 04:16 AM
who's rick mueller

He's the VP of Player Personnel for the Saints. He's also Randy's brother.

http://www.neworleanssaints.com/frontofficebio.cfm?frontofficeid=52

Springveldt
04-19-2007, 04:55 AM
The big thing for me is that he has hit on every single one of his first round picks. I'm going to feel comfortable with whoever we draft at #9. Actually most of them have been ProBowl players at one time or another and one is possibly headed to the HOF.