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DrAstroZoom
07-14-2003, 11:05 AM
From TSN's War Room:


Word coming out of Buffalo is that the team is altering the wide-open system it used last season with quarterback Drew Bledsoe. The Bills are showing signs of being more conservative, hoping to rely on an improved defense and turning to a solid running game and play-action passes to control the clock.

I suppose this makes sense, but when you have Drew Bledsoe, I question such a shift in philosophy. It's like us deciding to use the West Coast offense despite the presence of RW. Any thoughts?

Muck
07-14-2003, 11:08 AM
I think it's a good idea. They're going to want to keep that defense off the field and not wear them out. And if they make this switch, I think their offense could be even MORE potent.

dolphan39
07-14-2003, 11:09 AM
my first thought is that the running game has not proven it will be effective in a more conservative offense as opposed to Drew's passing setting up the run (not vica-versa). And the D has not improved, yet they have not played a down even in PS

iceblizzard69
07-14-2003, 11:22 AM
They are probably doing this because they lost Peerless Price and Josh Reed won't exactly burn people with his speed, so they need to change it around to a system that is best for their players. However, their offense won't be as good because Henry was really helped by the fact that opposing defenses were always keying the pass.

Surferosa
07-14-2003, 11:24 AM
Bad move by the Bills imo. Henry's will be exposed as a mediocre RB in such an offense. Moreover, youre taking the ball out of Bledsoe's hands, after he had his first good season in years.

Justasportsfan
07-14-2003, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by dolphan39
my first thought is that the running game has not proven it will be effective in a more conservative offense as opposed to Drew's passing setting up the run (not vica-versa). And the D has not improved, yet they have not played a down even in PS

I disagree. We relied on Drew's arm and although we were explossive at first, eventually teams caught up and it was downhill for the bills at the second half of the season. Bellichick exposed that.

The bills are headed to playing like we did against the fins at buffalo (no smack intended). We ran the ball first which opened up the passing lanes. I know the fins were prepared to defend the pass and in turn Henry was successful in that game. Teams will probably try to prepare for Henry this time around which is why the bills hired better blockers than Centers and Reimersma. I guess it's obvious that we'll be running the ball first and throwing second. Another move that tends to make that report true is letting Price go. Obviously we aren't going to pass much.

We also had to pass more last year because our D was horrible that we played catch up through the air. Hopefull , our D won't be giving up much points this year.

Surferosa
07-14-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by justafan


I disagree. We relied on Drew's arm and although we were explossive at first, eventually teams caught up and it was downhill for the bills at the second half of the season.

Good point here. I hear what youre saying.

DrAstroZoom
07-14-2003, 11:38 AM
Justa ... how do you think Drew will deal with a reduced role?

Justasportsfan
07-14-2003, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by iceblizzard69
They are probably doing this because they lost Peerless Price and Josh Reed won't exactly burn people with his speed, so they need to change it around to a system that is best for their players. However, their offense won't be as good because Henry was really helped by the fact that opposing defenses were always keying the pass.

Wrong , we hired Campbell (blocking TE) before we let Price go. It was already said before Price was let go that we were going to run more. On the contrary, this is why we let Price go. This is why we also hired Gary. Someone who can give Henry a rest every now and then.

Our most balanced offensive game last year was against a no. 3 D. We scored 38 points. (again no smack). Don't count Reed out. He's got better hands than Price and has proven to have better YAC especially since he's been catching the ball up the middle, in traffic.

Justasportsfan
07-14-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by DrAstroZoom
Justa ... how do you think Drew will deal with a reduced role?

He was all for it when he came out and said they wanted a more smashmouth type of O. Especially since Henry is a punishing rb (so they say) or has been known to gain more yards after tackle.

Remember, Drew is out to prove he's not washed up. Personal achievements will not prove anything to the Pats but a sb ring will. That's all he's after.

I'll find that link.

It may be a reduced role but If we are successful at running the ball , defenses would have to stack up the front which would make his long, deep throws more dangerous. Against Miami , Moulds and Price didn't have a lot of receptions but their catches were deep and for a lot of yards.

PhinPhreak
07-14-2003, 12:20 PM
Much of the succes of the offense is going to be determined by how fast the defense comes together. If they have trouble adjusting in the beggining then I think the Bills will have no choice but to be forced into a passing attack to keep pace with thier opponent.

Justasportsfan
07-14-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by PhinPhreak
Much of the succes of the offense is going to be determined by how fast the defense comes together. If they have trouble adjusting in the beggining then I think the Bills will have no choice but to be forced into a passing attack to keep pace with thier opponent.

I knew you knew your football. You smack like a little girl though. :D

MOULDSROCKS
07-14-2003, 03:40 PM
Wow.... this thread is filled with ignorance. :nono:



We will see.

DrAstroZoom
07-14-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
Wow.... this thread is filled with ignorance. :nono:


And your post is filled with ... well ... nothing, really.

CirclingWagons
07-14-2003, 04:21 PM
Great points by both sides....I love the change and here are a few reasons:
1. Our offensive line is an excellent run-blocking group, but questionable in pass-blocking...remember though, that was the line's first year together, they will no doubt improve(barring injury)
2. Bledsoe won't be a pinata, and as they mentioned, his Play-action passes are going to be deep and deadly.
3. Although losing Price does hurt, If he were to stay we'd have little or no defensive improvements, also, I can't wait to see Josh Reed (hopefully) come into his own this year.

Prime Time
07-14-2003, 05:31 PM
I think this could end to Henry getting too tired late in the year and just end up getting injured or something.

MOULDSROCKS
07-15-2003, 09:25 PM
Olandis Gary
Sammy Morris

and if all 3 are feeling tired, Willis McGahee shows up around Week 10!

:D

MOULDSROCKS
07-15-2003, 09:27 PM
But he won't get tired because he is probably one of the best conditioned athletes in the NFL. He works his *** off in the offseason and has amazing endurance. T-Hen, Eric Moulds, and Coy Wire are all in fantastic shape and I would put any one of them against ANYONE in the league endurance-wise.

Prime Time
07-15-2003, 10:48 PM
Hey Moulds instead of having that pic in your sig you should have a pick of you and it should say Ramblin, Rambln, Ramblin :lol: :jk:

MOULDSROCKS
07-15-2003, 10:56 PM
:D


It's DA TRUF!