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RonnFin46
04-25-2007, 09:42 PM
I, for one, do not want Trent Green. I would much rather take my chances with Culpepper again. Trent Green is one hit away from ending his career and I know Culpepper is almost just as bad but Culpepper was and is the better qb. I say keep Culpepper for one more year see what he does, if he can't play the whole season bring in lemon to finish it out or a qb that i think we should take in the draft. If Quinn falls to us, take him...if not wait till the 2nd round and pick up another quality qb like stanton or pretty much any qb that falls down there at that point even troy smith. Lets not forget that he did win the heisman, whether he is 5'2 or 7'2.

NJPHIN34
04-25-2007, 09:51 PM
I, for one, do not want Trent Green. I would much rather take my chances with Culpepper again. Trent Green is one hit away from ending his career and I know Culpepper is almost just as bad but Culpepper was and is the better qb. I say keep Culpepper for one more year see what he does, if he can't play the whole season bring in lemon to finish it out or a qb that i think we should take in the draft. If Quinn falls to us, take him...if not wait till the 2nd round and pick up another quality qb like stanton or pretty much any qb that falls down there at that point even troy smith. Lets not forget that he did win the heisman, whether he is 5'2 or 7'2.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!! Finally someone with a brain.

Phinman
04-25-2007, 09:53 PM
Give up on Cpepper the guy is done!

fins1
04-25-2007, 10:00 PM
I, for one, do not want Trent Green. I would much rather take my chances with Culpepper again. Trent Green is one hit away from ending his career and I know Culpepper is almost just as bad but Culpepper was and is the better qb. I say keep Culpepper for one more year see what he does, if he can't play the whole season bring in lemon to finish it out or a qb that i think we should take in the draft. If Quinn falls to us, take him...if not wait till the 2nd round and pick up another quality qb like stanton or pretty much any qb that falls down there at that point even troy smith. Lets not forget that he did win the heisman, whether he is 5'2 or 7'2.
So basically you are saying you want Lemon to lead this team this year.Pep is done, a rook needs at least 1 year to develop if not 2. No thanks I'll take Green.

steveincolorado
04-25-2007, 10:00 PM
Forget Daunte Bumpepper, Trent Green can play right now. Every player is one hit away from ending their career. Troy Smith? Just because he won the heisman doens't mean nothing in the big leagues, see Charlie Ward and Eric Crouch.

Anybody that thinks Trent Green is the future is nuts, he is only here for a stop gap time.

bwb8605
04-25-2007, 10:01 PM
I too would rather have Culpepper under center than Green. The ONLY way I would be happy with the Fins trading for Green is if, and only if, we draft Brady Quinn. Green has only one year left, and maybe not even that. But he would be the better QB to help teach Brady the offense. Quinn is still not a gurantee, but a much safer bet than anyone else. I'd hate for the fins to drop Daunte, trade for Green, and raise a rookie who pulls a Ryan Leaf next year.

zonk4ever
04-25-2007, 10:04 PM
Just because he won the heisman doens't mean nothing in the big leagues, see Charlie Ward and Eric Crouch.


Yeah that was a pretty lame comment. (throw in Geoff Toretta)

uga3406
04-25-2007, 10:05 PM
right now im not crazy about the ideal of trent green being our starting qb in '07 but what r the options? lemon..no thanks..culpeper..yes we need to be patient with him but even he said he is not sure he would be ready by july..well then that leaves us with 1 option..trade a 6th rd pick for green and draft the best ava. rookie qb..hopefully trent edwards in the 2nd rd.

fishfan34
04-25-2007, 10:11 PM
I, for one, do not want Trent Green. I would much rather take my chances with Culpepper again. Trent Green is one hit away from ending his career and I know Culpepper is almost just as bad but Culpepper was and is the better qb. I say keep Culpepper for one more year see what he does, if he can't play the whole season bring in lemon to finish it out or a qb that i think we should take in the draft. If Quinn falls to us, take him...if not wait till the 2nd round and pick up another quality qb like stanton or pretty much any qb that falls down there at that point even troy smith. Lets not forget that he did win the heisman, whether he is 5'2 or 7'2.
Every quarterback in the NFL is one hit away from ending their career. Just ask Joe Theisman.

zach8111
04-25-2007, 10:12 PM
I, for one, do not want Trent Green. I would much rather take my chances with Culpepper again. Trent Green is one hit away from ending his career and I know Culpepper is almost just as bad but Culpepper was and is the better qb. I say keep Culpepper for one more year see what he does, if he can't play the whole season bring in lemon to finish it out or a qb that i think we should take in the draft. If Quinn falls to us, take him...if not wait till the 2nd round and pick up another quality qb like stanton or pretty much any qb that falls down there at that point even troy smith. Lets not forget that he did win the heisman, whether he is 5'2 or 7'2.
i think green has 2 good years left. remember he sat out 6 years before he got a chance to start so his age is kind of deceving. he still has a good are and is mobile, which is important concidering our line. cpepper will get sack millions of time this year because him is IMMOBILE now. the only reason he use to be good is because he could scramble. his knee is too F****D Up to play. his career is over. we might be able to get something out of him from oakland. and remember green has lead the KC to the playoffs the last few years and the chief arent good at all. all they have is gonzo and LJ. our team beat them last year with joey so i think he gives us a decent chance to make playoffs or even a 8-8 record. green gives us the best chance to win and to groom quinn or another QB we get in the draft, which if not quinn i hope is BYU QB John Beck. we probably can get green for a 6th rounder or even nothing because KC will release him around July if no trade evolves because they cant pay a third string QB 7.2 million dollars. he will be third string because they are moving brodie croyle up to #2 to get him some experience cuz he is there franchise QB. Green will be in Miami next year.

FINSFAN2781
04-25-2007, 10:12 PM
Its time to face reality. Trent Green is coming to Miami and Culpepper will be gone. Theres no point in going back and forth, this is the reality of it, and its time to just deal with it.

Now I fully support DC and dont want him to go nor do I want Green. However, the only bright side of Green coming here is that he will mentor our QB that we draft, cough cough...Brady Quinn, cough cough. With the signing of Shea, and Green coming, it couldnt be more obvious we are going to get Quinn.

I would love to hold onto Daunte and see him at 100%, but I dont see Miami keeping him. Yes it sucks, but look at the bright side. We will have our future QB in Quinn.

RonnFin46
04-25-2007, 10:29 PM
Its time to face reality. Trent Green is coming to Miami and Culpepper will be gone. Theres no point in going back and forth, this is the reality of it, and its time to just deal with it.

Now I fully support DC and dont want him to go nor do I want Green. However, the only bright side of Green coming here is that he will mentor our QB that we draft, cough cough...Brady Quinn, cough cough. With the signing of Shea, and Green coming, it couldnt be more obvious we are going to get Quinn.

I would love to hold onto Daunte and see him at 100%, but I dont see Miami keeping him. Yes it sucks, but look at the bright side. We will have our future QB in Quinn.

ummmi dno if u noticed but no one is jst gonna say, o look Miami signed shea and Trent Green, lets just pass on Quinn and let them get him. We're not definitly gettin Quinn theres a very big possibilty he won't fall to us at #9.

NJPHIN34
04-25-2007, 10:35 PM
Give up on Cpepper the guy is done!

Oh ok, gee thanks for summing it all up for me.

And Green isn't done? The guy is 37 and spent most of the year on the sidelines because of a concussion and a head injury. Head injuries like that can flare up again if he sneezes too hard.

Now I'm not an eternal optimist, thinking that Cpep will return to his pro bowl form. I have high hopes for him still, yet everyday goes by and I become more and more pessimistic about Cpep's recovery. HOWEVER, given the choice between 2 glass houses, I'd rather have the one that is already on the roster and who still has maybe 7-8 years of playing at a high level if he fully recovers from his injury.

I honestly don't believe that Green will be able to make it through a full season anymore. He is a 37 year old QB, coming off of a serious head injury. No thanks, I'd rather take the lesser of the 2 evils; Culpepper.

steviecg2
04-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Even if Daunte is healthy he will not be back. Cam's system requires a fast thinking and reacting quarterback, something C-Pep is not.

Do you remember him having all day to pass the ball only to stare down his receivers or take a sack. He does not have the mental aptitude to play in this offense.

ASUFinFan
04-25-2007, 10:39 PM
Oh ok, gee thanks for summing it all up for me.

And Green isn't done? The guy is 37 and spent most of the year on the sidelines because of a concussion and a head injury. Head injuries like that can flare up again if he sneezes too hard.

Now I'm not an eternal optimist, thinking that Cpep will return to his pro bowl form. I have high hopes for him still, yet everyday goes by and I become more and more pessimistic about Cpep's recovery. HOWEVER, given the choice between 2 glass houses, I'd rather have the one that is already on the roster and who still has maybe 7-8 years of playing at a high level if he fully recovers from his injury.

I honestly don't believe that Green will be able to make it through a full season anymore. He is a 37 year old QB, coming off of a serious head injury. No thanks, I'd rather take the lesser of the 2 evils; Culpepper.

The lesser of the two evils is Trent Green. Thats an easy answer. TG knows the system, is familiar with Cam, concussions arent unfamiliar in the nfl, and he would be a better transition for our rookie qb. I honestly dont want Cpep giving our rookie qb any advice. Not to mention that we dont know if CPep can make it through a full season anymore either. His knee is banged up my friend. Of the two evils, TG is the better choice.

Nicky Napoleon
04-25-2007, 10:40 PM
Forget Daunte Bumpepper, Trent Green can play right now. Every player is one hit away from ending their career. Troy Smith? Just because he won the heisman doens't mean nothing in the big leagues, see Charlie Ward and Eric Crouch.

Anybody that thinks Trent Green is the future is nuts, he is only here for a stop gap time.


Umm Charlie Ward chose basketball over football so you cant use him as an arguement. Charlie Ward was drafted by three count them three professional sports leagues. Drafted by both Milwalkee Brewers in 1993 and the New York Yankees in 1994 in baseball, the Knicks in basketball , and the Jets in football. So your going to tell me that you would rather play for the Jets over the Knicks...

abNORMal
04-25-2007, 10:47 PM
Even if Daunte is healthy he will not be back. Cam's system requires a fast thinking and reacting quarterback, something C-Pep is not.

Do you remember him having all day to pass the ball only to stare down his receivers or take a sack. He does not have the mental aptitude to play in this offense.

It's football, not rocket science...all you guys who make disparaging comments about an athlete's perceived lack of mental capacity are truly tired.
A healthy Culpepper is a better option than a healthy Trent Green. Now if Coach doesn't believe that C-Pep will be healthy, or if he just prefers Green because that's his boy then let's call it that, but let's not even pretend that when both are healthy, Green is in the same category as Culpepper.:tantrum:

eomdtbtr
04-25-2007, 10:52 PM
Oh ok, gee thanks for summing it all up for me.

And Green isn't done? The guy is 37 and spent most of the year on the sidelines because of a concussion and a head injury. Head injuries like that can flare up again if he sneezes too hard.

Now I'm not an eternal optimist, thinking that Cpep will return to his pro bowl form. I have high hopes for him still, yet everyday goes by and I become more and more pessimistic about Cpep's recovery. HOWEVER, given the choice between 2 glass houses, I'd rather have the one that is already on the roster and who still has maybe 7-8 years of playing at a high level if he fully recovers from his injury.

I honestly don't believe that Green will be able to make it through a full season anymore. He is a 37 year old QB, coming off of a serious head injury. No thanks, I'd rather take the lesser of the 2 evils; Culpepper.

Ha there is a difference between being an eternal optimist, and being just plain dumb. I cpep ever comes back from hi injury and makes it to the probowl. I will buy a Cpep Miami dolphins jersey, and EAT IT!!!!!

steveincolorado
04-25-2007, 10:54 PM
Umm Charlie Ward chose basketball over football so you cant use him as an arguement. Charlie Ward was drafted by three count them three professional sports leagues. Drafted by both Milwalkee Brewers in 1993 and the New York Yankees in 1994 in baseball, the Knicks in basketball , and the Jets in football. So your going to tell me that you would rather play for the Jets over the Knicks...


Sure I can. we're talking about football here, not baseball or basketball. :D

abNORMal
04-25-2007, 11:00 PM
Ha there is a difference between being an eternal optimist, and being just plain dumb. I cpep ever comes back from hi injury and makes it to the probowl. I will buy a Cpep Miami dolphins jersey, and EAT IT!!!!!

you may want to edit that.....suppose after he leaves Miami, he comes back with another team and gets to the probowl???...it could happen

eomdtbtr
04-25-2007, 11:01 PM
It's football, not rocket science...all you guys who make disparaging comments about an athlete's perceived lack of mental capacity are truly tired.
A healthy Culpepper is a better option than a healthy Trent Green. Now if Coach doesn't believe that C-Pep will be healthy, or if he just prefers Green because that's his boy then let's call it that, but let's not even pretend that when both are healthy, Green is in the same category as Culpepper.:tantrum:

Of course it depends on what offense they play in. You have to use an offense that supports the Qb talents. The Zampese does not do that for Daunte.

abNORMal
04-25-2007, 11:08 PM
Of course it depends on what offense they play in. You have to use an offense that supports the Qb talents. The Zampese does not do that for Daunte.

I can kinda agree with that, and if that's the reason Coach wants Green then that's cool.

daddy dolphin
04-25-2007, 11:14 PM
if we just want to use a QB for a year or two get BLEDSOE he's free

steviecg2
04-25-2007, 11:34 PM
It's football, not rocket science...all you guys who make disparaging comments about an athlete's perceived lack of mental capacity are truly tired.
A healthy Culpepper is a better option than a healthy Trent Green. Now if Coach doesn't believe that C-Pep will be healthy, or if he just prefers Green because that's his boy then let's call it that, but let's not even pretend that when both are healthy, Green is in the same category as Culpepper.:tantrum:

It is football and yes the quarterback position does require KNOWLEDGE or tremendous physical talents. That of which Pepper does not have anymore due to the knee.

Different quarterbacks can excel in one system and fail in another. Have you ever heard of coaches searching for players which fit their system?

Thats what Cam is doing. While interviewing the QB draft prospects he has asked them to to explain their offense on a white board in a timed circumstance, thus testing their mental aptitude.

My reasoning in believing Culpepper will not by here by the start of the season is his play throughout his career. Did you see how long he sat in the pocket last year, the decisions he made. Not very promising.

josekareh
04-25-2007, 11:42 PM
Give up on Cpepper the guy is done!


He is as done as Green is....

ottie35
04-25-2007, 11:43 PM
I head the NO TO GREEN campaign, he is old and one hit from eating from a straw the rest of his life......lets stick with pepp and take our chances with a young rookie QB.

bert
04-25-2007, 11:53 PM
Even if Daunte is healthy he will not be back. Cam's system requires a fast thinking and reacting quarterback, something C-Pep is not.

Do you remember him having all day to pass the ball only to stare down his receivers or take a sack. He does not have the mental aptitude to play in this offense.
i hate to say this, but i agree all the way.does anybody remember last year?this will be a new offense again.i feel green will be able to pick it up lot faster than c pep, and i think cam might know this to.i pull for everyone.but c pep has done nothing without throwing moss hail marrys.green has 2 years tops,but he is very good when healthy=all pro.if we dont get brady,i say we wait till next year to get a qb.next years crop is going to be deep.we need 3 off linemen,a corner or saftey.lets just get them now.it's not pretty ,but we have to address it.

Xeticus
04-25-2007, 11:54 PM
I'd rather just keep Cpep as we've already paid for him. Let him help groom our next QB and then trade him at the end of the season and clear the way for our new guy. If we're offered anything less than a 3rd round pick for him we might as well keep him and make the bet use out of him possible. If he rehabs and does even moderately well he might be worth a 2nd round pick next year.

Zonkman
04-25-2007, 11:57 PM
Just because he won the heisman doens't mean nothing in the big leagues, see Charlie Ward and Eric Crouch.


Yeah that was a pretty lame comment. (throw in Geoff Toretta)


Wasn't his name Gino Toretta??:wink:

jason_taylor
04-25-2007, 11:57 PM
:shakeno: [quote=NJPHIN34;1062009427]Oh ok, gee thanks for summing it all up for me.

And Green isn't done? The guy is 37 and spent most of the year on the sidelines because of a concussion and a head injury. Head injuries like that can flare up again if he sneezes too hard.

Now I'm not an eternal optimist, thinking that Cpep will return to his pro bowl form. I have high hopes for him still, yet everyday goes by and I become more and more pessimistic about Cpep's recovery. HOWEVER, given the choice between 2 glass houses, I'd rather have the one that is already on the roster and who still has maybe 7-8 years of playing at a high level if he fully recovers from his injury.

I honestly don't believe that Green will be able to make it through a full season anymore. He is a 37 year old QB, coming off of a serious head injury. No thanks, I'd rather take the lesser of the 2 evils; Culpepper.[/quote


well u might as well say start lemon over green cause c-pepp imo is not coming back in 07 he might be back in 08 but i think he is done :shakeno: