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jim1
04-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Friday, April 27, 2007

Here's the deal on draft eve

Well, that's why you are here. This is what is likely to happen Saturday for the Miami Dolphins:

MOST LIKELY PICK AT No. 9: Offensive tackle Levi Brown. It's not sexy but the Dolphins realize (I think) that you need a foundation for the offense and that position is a HUGE need. There's an argument out there that OL coach Hudson Houck can make good players out of low draft picks so don't waste one this high. Well, have you thought about what Houck can do with a high pick? He should be able to turn them into a monster! This move also allows Miami to possibly let Anthony Alabi get some snaps at right tackle and left guard, thus improving the depth along a line that is paper thin on talent.


MOST LIKELY TRADE: I think the Chiefs realize that if they don't get something for Trent Green now, they may not get anything at all. Next year is a long time to wait for a conditional pick so I think wiser heads will prevail and the two sides finally agree on a deal. I do know this: The Dolphins aren't giving up a second round pick.

MOST LIKELY SCENARIO FOR GETTING BRADY QUINN: The Dolphins desperately want Quinn. They want him enough to give up picks in the second round to get him. So if Quinn falls past Cleveland at No. 3, the Dolphins will be on the phones trying to get up to Arizona at No. 5 and Washington at No. 6 to get Quinn. This is fact. By the way, this scenario still happens if Washington and Chicago swap linebacker Lance Briggs for the No. 6 pick. The Dolphins will simply try to make the trade with the Bears.

(EDITOR'S NOTE: I do not think the Dolphins will get Quinn. The latest news about Adrian Peterson having re-injured his collarbone in the Fiesta Bowl will force the Browns to take Quinn instead of Peterson, I believe.)

MOST LIKELY SECOND ROUND SCENARIO: If the Dolphins can't get Quinn by making a trade in the first round, they know they have to pick up a quarterback soon thereafter, if possible. Everyone says three will be available in the second round when Miami picks but I have my doubts about that because Oakland, Detroit and Chicago could go shopping for QBs in the second round and all are ahead of Miami. Look for the Dolphins to try and trade up to get their targetted player. The guy the Dolphins like most out of BYU's John Beck, Michigan State's Drew Stanton and Stanford's Trent Edwards is (drum roll here) Beck. Edwards is second.

http://dolphinsindepth.blogspot.com/2007/04/heres-deal-on-draft-eve.html

ohiobryan
04-27-2007, 02:43 PM
bring us quinn randy!

ohiobryan
04-27-2007, 02:44 PM
browns will take joe thomas!

jim1
04-27-2007, 02:53 PM
bring us quinn randy!

I think that the likelihood of getting Trent Green takes the pressure off. When I think about it, unless the team REALLY has a conviction about Quinn or one the tier 2 QB's, they can wait until #40 and cherry pick. I'd still like to see a slide down, that Broncos/Texans deal looks good to me, and we're #9 vs. #10, all the better for Denver.

So they can trade up for Quinn, trade down and take their favorite tier 2 QB (apparently Beck) or just take BPA, preferably Bowe, Meachem, Staley, Brown, Ginn, or Jamaal Anderson.

The worst option seems to be sitting at #9, unless of course Quinn slides, or maybe Peterson, which could make things even more interesting.

I'm getting my beer early tomorrow, this is gonna be a fun draft.

SR 7
04-27-2007, 03:06 PM
i think we get screwed in ro und 1 AND 2.

fishypete
04-27-2007, 03:06 PM
I think that the likelihood of getting Trent Green takes the pressure off. When I think about it, unless the team REALLY has a conviction about Quinn or one the tier 2 QB's, they can wait until #40 and cherry pick. I'd still like to see a slide down, that Broncos/Texans deal looks good to me, and we're #9 vs. #10, all the better for Denver.

So they can trade up for Quinn, trade down and take their favorite tier 2 QB (apparently Beck) or just take BPA, preferably Bowe, Meachem, Staley, Brown, Ginn, or Jamaal Anderson.

The worst option seems to be sitting at #9, unless of course Quinn slides, or maybe Peterson, which could make things even more interesting.

I'm getting my beer early tomorrow, this is gonna be a fun draft.

Seems to me that the Dolphins could move down either with Carolina or the Giants. I still say after all is said and done...they will have a better chance at Russell than Quinn if they stay or move up...there is no way that the Browns will let Quinn go past them at 3.

FinsFan74
04-27-2007, 03:20 PM
i think we get screwed in ro und 1 AND 2.
Way to stay positive ;)

Gamezover
04-27-2007, 03:36 PM
i think we get screwed in ro und 1 AND 2.

cmon buddy! No need to be negative right now. This is like the most exciting time about the fins we have for the next 4 months. Take it easy. By the way if you are right I might not make it through the day let alone the rest of the off-season. Jack Daniels will be tried for muder, and wrongly acused as Randy and Cam should be the ones behind bar.

Fresh
04-27-2007, 03:56 PM
Levi Brown.......:rolleyes2

phinfreak
04-27-2007, 04:12 PM
Friday, April 27, 2007

Here's the deal on draft eve

Well, that's why you are here. This is what is likely to happen Saturday for the Miami Dolphins:

MOST LIKELY PICK AT No. 9: Offensive tackle Levi Brown. It's not sexy but the Dolphins realize (I think) that you need a foundation for the offense and that position is a HUGE need. There's an argument out there that OL coach Hudson Houck can make good players out of low draft picks so don't waste one this high. Well, have you thought about what Houck can do with a high pick? He should be able to turn them into a monster! This move also allows Miami to possibly let Anthony Alabi get some snaps at right tackle and left guard, thus improving the depth along a line that is paper thin on talent.


MOST LIKELY TRADE: I think the Chiefs realize that if they don't get something for Trent Green now, they may not get anything at all. Next year is a long time to wait for a conditional pick so I think wiser heads will prevail and the two sides finally agree on a deal. I do know this: The Dolphins aren't giving up a second round pick.

MOST LIKELY SCENARIO FOR GETTING BRADY QUINN: The Dolphins desperately want Quinn. They want him enough to give up picks in the second round to get him. So if Quinn falls past Cleveland at No. 3, the Dolphins will be on the phones trying to get up to Arizona at No. 5 and Washington at No. 6 to get Quinn. This is fact. By the way, this scenario still happens if Washington and Chicago swap linebacker Lance Briggs for the No. 6 pick. The Dolphins will simply try to make the trade with the Bears.

(EDITOR'S NOTE: I do not think the Dolphins will get Quinn. The latest news about Adrian Peterson having re-injured his collarbone in the Fiesta Bowl will force the Browns to take Quinn instead of Peterson, I believe.)

MOST LIKELY SECOND ROUND SCENARIO: If the Dolphins can't get Quinn by making a trade in the first round, they know they have to pick up a quarterback soon thereafter, if possible. Everyone says three will be available in the second round when Miami picks but I have my doubts about that because Oakland, Detroit and Chicago could go shopping for QBs in the second round and all are ahead of Miami. Look for the Dolphins to try and trade up to get their targetted player. The guy the Dolphins like most out of BYU's John Beck, Michigan State's Drew Stanton and Stanford's Trent Edwards is (drum roll here) Beck. Edwards is second.

http://dolphinsindepth.blogspot.com/2007/04/heres-deal-on-draft-eve.html


IMHO, Miami is NOT trading up, not Cam or Randy, no way. If anything they will trade down but in this years draft, weak in depth at QB, DL, and lack of franchise LB's, most teams will look to trade down so it's a buyers market which spells odds against executing a downward trade unless you are one of the top five teams picking.

Miami is even less likely to trade up in the second round unless they use a current player vs a draft pick i.e. Booker or RW. A package of swapping 2nd round picks plus a Booker or RW for a very early 2nd ie 34 or 35 pick may be doable but for who? 2nd tier QB? nope, the remaining 3-4 QB's are relatively equal. An OL if Staley drops or WR is SSmith is there? More probable.

sampsonfin
04-27-2007, 04:17 PM
I think this is one of those years that the fan base wouldn't complain very much at all if Mueller dropped the a 2nd and 3rd trading up for Quinn. A very QB-starved fan base here in Miami

PhinGeneral
04-27-2007, 04:21 PM
i think we get screwed in ro und 1 AND 2.

Knowing the luck this franchise has had recently, it wouldn't surprise me.

SabanHater
04-27-2007, 04:21 PM
I think this is one of those years that the fan base wouldn't complain very much at all if Mueller dropped the a 2nd and 3rd trading up for Quinn. A very QB-starved fan base here in Miami

I totally agree with you. Do whatever it takes to land Quinn.
He'll be here for the next 10-13 years (hopefully). I think that's worth it!

PhinGeneral
04-27-2007, 04:24 PM
IMHO, Miami is NOT trading up, not Cam or Randy, no way. If anything they will trade down but in this years draft, weak in depth at QB, DL, and lack of franchise LB's, most teams will look to trade down so it's a buyers market which spells odds against executing a downward trade unless you are one of the top five teams picking.

Actually Mike Martz, who probably knows a few things about QB's, was recently quoted as saying this is the deepest draft for QB's he's seen in a while.

3rd and long
04-27-2007, 04:28 PM
John Clayton said that the Dolphins wouldn't move up for Quinn. They plan on taking Levi Brown at 9, unless Quinn falls that far. Who knows if he's right.

MrEd
04-27-2007, 04:38 PM
bring us quinn randy!


Adam Shefter just reported that the top 3 picks WILL BE:

Russell, Johnson, and Quinn. He knows this via widely spread reports around the league. That it WILL happen either by straight selection by OAK, DET, and CLE...or via trade up by TB with DET.

But Mike Mayock's Mock does have Quinn dropping to us at #9 so...

PhinGeneral
04-27-2007, 04:48 PM
John Clayton said that the Dolphins wouldn't move up for Quinn. They plan on taking Levi Brown at 9, unless Quinn falls that far. Who knows if he's right.

I doubt he's right. Minnesota may be hot on Landry, which may cause Atlanta to choose between Okoye and Levi Brown. And even though Okoye played for Petrino, Brown supposedly is becoming a hot commodity with the Falcons reportedly interested. So while Miami most likely still has a good shot at Brown, I don't think it's a sure enough thing not to explore other options.

Mccool26
04-27-2007, 04:54 PM
I hope he is wrong because i would rather take a play maker then a linemaen iun the 1st i mean last year we shold have picked up holmes and we would have had a good rerciever but saban got a hold out no good saftey

Shula Come Back!
04-27-2007, 05:52 PM
I would love to see Quinn here, but I'm doubtful.

What I want to happen:

1. Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame
2. Dwayne Jarret WR USC
2. Ben Grubbs OG Auburn
3. Zach Miller TE Arizona State

This is obviously not going to happen so I will settle for what could happen:

1. Levi Brown OT Penn State
2. Trent Edwards/Drew Stanton QB (toss up here)
2. Steve Smith WR USC
3. Aaron Rouse S/CB Virginia Tech

That's pretty sweet too! I'd take either one!

jim1
04-27-2007, 06:46 PM
I would love to see Quinn here, but I'm doubtful.

What I want to happen:

1. Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame
2. Dwayne Jarret WR USC
2. Ben Grubbs OG Auburn
3. Zach Miller TE Arizona State

This is obviously not going to happen so I will settle for what could happen:

1. Levi Brown OT Penn State
2. Trent Edwards/Drew Stanton QB (toss up here)
2. Steve Smith WR USC
3. Aaron Rouse S/CB Virginia Tech

That's pretty sweet too! I'd take either one!

That last sentence would apply to the girls in your avatar as well.

1 Beck
2 Edwards
3 Kolb
4 Stanton

Shula Come Back!
04-27-2007, 08:08 PM
That last sentence would apply to the girls in your avatar as well.

1 Beck
2 Edwards
3 Kolb
4 Stanton


Hell yes!

dolphinfan0762
04-27-2007, 08:19 PM
trade up with detriot for Calvin Johnson for our #1, #2(60th pick), #3, and next years #2. should be enough.

#1 - Calvin Johnson
#2 - draft either Beck, Edwards & Stanton
#4 - OL
#6 - OL
#6 - for trent green
#7 - OL
#7- Punter

jim1
04-27-2007, 08:29 PM
trade up with detriot for Calvin Johnson for our #1, #2(60th pick), #3, and next years #2. should be enough.

#1 - Calvin Johnson
#2 - draft either Beck, Edwards & Stanton
#4 - OL
#6 - OL
#6 - for trent green
#7 - OL
#7- Punter

Make the #2 Beck and I'm ecstatic with that.

SR 7
04-27-2007, 10:23 PM
cmon buddy! No need to be negative right now. This is like the most exciting time about the fins we have for the next 4 months. Take it easy. By the way if you are right I might not make it through the day let alone the rest of the off-season. Jack Daniels will be tried for muder, and wrongly acused as Randy and Cam should be the ones behind bar.

im negative b/c i know itll happen i dont wna be excited b/c my hopes for quinn are gettin to strong and ocne it doenst happen ima be very sad. i rem when i heard alex smith number 1 few yrs back i was sad but i relallllllllly had a good feeling about brown so i was happy eitther way. this time around, ive been on quinns jock for a while.

SR 7
04-27-2007, 10:24 PM
Knowing the luck this franchise has had recently, it wouldn't surprise me.

exactly hence i said that.

Blitz
04-27-2007, 10:29 PM
I'd obviously take Quinn if he drops. If the Browns pass on him, he's more likely than not to fall to nine. Why give up a second or third round pick when he's going to fall to you anyway? It sure sounds like the Vikes have no intention of drafting him...Who could even possibly trade ahead of us to get Quinn? Nobody. That said, trading up to the second overall pick is out of the question. It appears that either Quinn will fall to us or get snatched up by the Browns.

If the Browns take Quinn, which sounds likely, I'd try to trade down a few spots and take Joe Staley in the mid-teens. If I were unable to trade down, I'd just take Staley at nine and Kolb or Beck at 40 (Or move up as soon as one of the two comes off the board).

If we land Quinn then I'd take Dwayne Jarrett at 40, assuming he falls of course.

End result: A top-notch OT and QB or a top-notch QB and WR with our first two picks.

The optimistic side of me says both Quinn and Jarrett fall to us, a dream come true...However, the pessimistic side of me says we'll be lucky to get Staley and Kolb. Either scenario would make me very happy.

I can hardly wait...

RichmondWeb
04-27-2007, 11:20 PM
Why do we need another slow receiver? I say trade down to 12, 13, 14 since they all want Willis; then add some speed and ST in the form of Ted Ginn Jr.

Skeet84
04-27-2007, 11:32 PM
I agree with him for the most part, But the dolphins are not gunna start trading up to get people. They have all these people for a reason. They wanna get some new young talent in. They will pick alot of people on offense