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sirvmac
05-31-2007, 03:31 PM
hey guys, why not have our very own Finheaven CAP dynasty or Franchise? I would be all over it simming-wise but I ave to go to India for med school and have little or no time. IF anyone has any free time and would like to take part in this, it would be awesome.
Basic concept:
Finheaven users post their players, some get chosen and are used in the dynasty. After players are chosen, they are entered into random teams and their futures are posted regularly with stats, news, and other fun information. We could also add a storyline of some sort. If anyone is willing to start one, Id be more than happy to help, I just cant control the majority of the updates. I could be of some help. The IGN message boards have some great examples. We could also do some create-a-coach dynasties as well. anyway, it would be awesome.:bighug:


EDIT (by Mor)
Submit your info if interested in this format:


put players in this format:

Name:
Position:
Age:
Weight:
Height:
Equipment:
Also, choose 2 skills. For example:

I will specialize in 3 pointers and handles. Mindwarp wants to specialize in Rebounds and dunks. All of your basic b-ball skills are available. Try to choose skills that will complement your player.

mor911
05-31-2007, 03:35 PM
i have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds fun. Linky please.

Motion
05-31-2007, 03:38 PM
i have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds fun. Linky please.

:yeahthat:

Whats CAP?

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 03:43 PM
haha, basically, this is what you do:

Members of the board create their own players in this format:
Name:
Age:
Position:
etc.

After a number of players are created, the main simmer(we need one) will enter all of the players in a madden or NCAA franchise mode. The simmer will regularly sim the games and update the player's status on the boards on a specific thread. There could be custom storylines that the simmer makes and we could occasionally add more. here is a link to one good one:
http://boards.ign.com/ncaa_football_ea/b6051/142043343/p1/?442

btw, CAP means create-a-player

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 03:44 PM
we could also do basketball if it will be easier and/or more fun

mor911
05-31-2007, 03:52 PM
how would we limit the skills for the player? I want to play!

mor911
05-31-2007, 03:53 PM
basically, if you leave it to us, we'll have all players rated at 99 and we'll go undefeated every year.

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 03:56 PM
its all up to the simmer(hopefully we can find one). It would be a better storyline if we all start off at 78 overall or something, its all about the story, we should prolly do a basketball one to start off. see how our players change and grow to be superstars and stuff.

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 03:57 PM
basically, if you leave it to us, we'll have all players rated at 99 and we'll go undefeated every year.

as long as we have an amazing storyline, that wouldn't matter:wink:

mor911
05-31-2007, 04:02 PM
its all up to the simmer(hopefully we can find one). It would be a better storyline if we all start off at 78 overall or something, its all about the story, we should prolly do a basketball one to start off. see how our players change and grow to be superstars and stuff.i'm down with some 2k7. I'll play PG!

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 04:05 PM
i'm down with some 2k7. I'll play PG!

I guess 2k7 is it, now, we wait for someone to be able to sim. We need someone creative and committed. :D

Ill be the 7'2 Center :lol:
we can have like two teams, that would be awesome, we can create a storyline that way.

mor911
05-31-2007, 04:15 PM
If nobody volunteers, I'll sim.

Mindwarp
05-31-2007, 04:17 PM
Im down for PF.

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 04:23 PM
lets have two teams, basically division rivals
put players in this format:

Name:
Position:
Age:
Weight:
Height:
Equipment:
simmer decides stats

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 04:24 PM
Name: Vishal Reddy
Position: C
Age: 18
Weight: 288
Height: 7'2
Equipment: left wristband black, right wrist band black

btw, mor, is there anyway u can take screenshots of the players?

mor911
05-31-2007, 04:34 PM
Name: Vishal Reddy
Position: C
Age: 18
Weight: 288
Height: 7'2
Equipment: left wristband black, right wrist band black

btw, mor, is there anyway u can take screenshots of the players?yes. a visual descrtiption would be cool to. And prefered hair type.

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 04:37 PM
Name: Vishal Reddy
Position: C
Age: 18
Weight: 288
Height: 7'2
Equipment: left wristband black, right wrist band black
brownish skin (indian)
buzz cut would be fine, anything else, you can surprise me

Majpain
05-31-2007, 04:47 PM
Would be great if my 2k7 WORKED!

mor911
05-31-2007, 04:52 PM
Would be great if my 2k7 WORKED!you don't need the game to play Maj... Only the simmer does

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 04:53 PM
Would be great if my 2k7 WORKED!

you only need to create a player, the mor will take care of the simming, use the player format i used in the previous post.

mor911
05-31-2007, 04:54 PM
Sirv, would you be willing to help with the story concept and buildup? I'll need ideas for fueds.

- Ex college team mates
- break out new super star vs old growing verteran

goos tuff :)

Mindwarp
05-31-2007, 04:55 PM
Name: Mindwarpous Ridicoulus
Position:PF
Age: 22 (in game) don't want to retire to soon.
Weight: 260 lbs
Height: 6' -11''
Equipment: none
Skin: White
Hair: Long

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 04:56 PM
of course, ill sned u PM's and stuff so we dont ruin it. :)

mor911
05-31-2007, 04:57 PM
we just need a SG and SF and we have a full 1st team

mor911
05-31-2007, 05:00 PM
of course, ill sned u PM's and stuff so we dont ruin it. :):hi5:

Also, we should have everyone choose 2 skills. For example:

I will specialize in 3 pointers and handles. Mindwarp wants to specialize in Rebounds and short range shooting.

Mindwarp
05-31-2007, 05:01 PM
:hi5:

Also, we should have everyone choose 2 skills. For example:

I will specialize in 3 pointers and handles. Mindwarp wants to specialize in Rebounds and short range shooting.



thats if you can edit that.

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 05:03 PM
:hi5:

Also, we should have everyone choose 2 skills. For example:

I will specialize in 3 pointers and handles. Mindwarp wants to specialize in Rebounds and short range shooting.

not a bad idea, ill go short range and mid range shooting, all offense baby

Mindwarp
05-31-2007, 05:05 PM
not a bad idea, ill go short range and mid range shooting, all offense baby

as Center I think you should have gone Monster Dunks and Blocks IMO

mor911
05-31-2007, 05:07 PM
thats if you can edit that.2K will let me specify peoples ratings specifically in these skills

SpurzN703
05-31-2007, 05:10 PM
Put me in as a shooting guard. Details will follow

SpurzN703
05-31-2007, 05:17 PM
Name: Chris Robinson
Position: SG
Age: 26
Weight: 215
Height: 6'7
Equipment: left wristband black, right wrist band black
caucasian skin
give me spikey hair
2 tattoos on each arm, left arm is a ram which is above a tribal one
right arm is a tribal sun over a tribal band
Give me Nike shoes

Anything else just let me know :D
__________________

SpurzN703
05-31-2007, 05:18 PM
My 2 specialties are 3 pt shooting (85-90) range and passing. My defense is average

mor911
05-31-2007, 05:20 PM
Name: Chris Robinson
Position: SG
Age: 26
Weight: 215
Height: 6'7
Equipment: left wristband black, right wrist band black
caucasian skin
give me spikey hair
2 tattoos on each arm, left arm is a ram which is above a tribal one
right arm is a tribal sun over a tribal band
Give me Nike shoes

Anything else just let me know :D
__________________skills?

EDIT - NM :P

Majpain
05-31-2007, 05:27 PM
you don't need the game to play Maj... Only the simmer does

Oh :lol:

I'll upload later.

UltraDol-Fan
05-31-2007, 05:57 PM
I'm down,

Name: Ultra
Position: PG
Age: 26
Weight: 215
Height: 6'3
Equipment: none
Skin: White
Hair: normal brown hair :lol:

skills: Passing, 3 point Shooting, and Handling if I can have 3 :)

Mindwarp
05-31-2007, 06:02 PM
team 2 or bench for Ultra nolastname

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 06:02 PM
as Center I think you should have gone Monster Dunks and Blocks IMO

im fine wit that, mor, if u read this, ill change mine to dunk and blocking


fyi, me and the mor will create storylines and stuff, if anyone wants to help out, contact either one of us. The story will begin after we get upto 15 players, the franchise will start before the draft with press conferences ands such

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 06:03 PM
team 2 or bench for Ultra nolastname

we are thinking about scratching the two team franchise and having a regular one where the players will be drafted. It might make more sense while creating an appealing story.

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 06:45 PM
To make this better, I will hold frequent press conferences and stuff. I will also have Around the Horn type updates(i need 4 contestants). This is gonna be fun.

Slappy8800
05-31-2007, 07:26 PM
why do you HAVE to go to india for med school at age 18 nonetheless

King Felix
05-31-2007, 07:32 PM
im down to play sg

King Felix
05-31-2007, 07:36 PM
or small forward if there is still a need for one
Name: King Felix
Position: SF/SG
Number:3(if thats taken then 7)
Age: 18
Weight: 220
Height: 6'9
Equipment: the ai sleeve(team color) on the right arm
caucasian skin
long/shaggy hair brown
gimme some wades or lebrons


and i wanna be a nasty defender and really nice dunker......like a gerald wallace

mor911
05-31-2007, 07:58 PM
this will be the whitest NBA draft ever... :lol:

Majpain
05-31-2007, 08:29 PM
this will be the whitest NBA draft ever... :lol:

:lol:

Majpain
05-31-2007, 08:47 PM
Name:Andrew Payne
Position: SF
Age:18
White.
Weight:220
Height:6'10
Jersey#:54
College:Ohio St
Build:Normal
Muscletone:Ripped
Hair: Straight Full
Hair Color:Black
Beard Style:4
Mustache Style:4
Sideburns:None
Face Leave as is.
Equipment:Team Sleeve left arm
Shoes: Nike, Nike Shox Bounce, Blue.
Attributes:
3Pt-85
Shooting Mid-95
Passing-85


Others-
Playingtime-48
Durability-99
Stamina-99
Potential-99

If we can post more attributes I'll add some more.

sirvmac
05-31-2007, 09:18 PM
why do you HAVE to go to india for med school at age 18 nonetheless

haha, i guess im that good :)

I applied and got into a good med school, I get to skip undergrad for three years. I also get to come back here. So, i guess its a good prg so im going.:D

Dolfan32323
05-31-2007, 10:36 PM
basically, if you leave it to us, we'll have all players rated at 99 and we'll go undefeated every year.Lol. So true.

StormSurge
06-01-2007, 09:06 AM
If there's a need for a small forward on the other team, I'm your guy.

Name:Storm Surge
Position: SF
Age:22 (just for the game!)
White.
Weight:212
Height:6'6
Jersey#:12
College:UConn
Build:Normal
Hair: white boy fro :D
Hair Color:blond
No facial hair
Face Leave as is.
Shoes: Nike, old school Jordans if possible
Attributes:
Good shooter, horrible handler, above average defender & rebounder

StormSurge
06-01-2007, 09:08 AM
BTW, I've done something similar with this in the past with NCAA Football, with everyone on the same team. I had hopes of everyone graduating to the NFL, but it faded. If I can find a link, I'll share.

Maybe if this is successful, we can try it with the new football games this year. (Damn you EA)

UltraDol-Fan
06-01-2007, 11:32 AM
team 2 or bench for Ultra nolastname

ouch :boohoo:

what if I add it real fast.... how about Ultra Nolaste

Motion
06-01-2007, 11:40 AM
Can my last name be Lotion?

mor911
06-01-2007, 11:47 AM
Motion Lotion?? FTW!!!!

mor911
06-01-2007, 11:48 AM
Name:Andrew Payne
Position: SF
Age:18
White.
Weight:220
Height:6'10
Jersey#:54
College:Ohio St
Build:Normal
Muscletone:Ripped
Hair: Straight Full
Hair Color:Black
Beard Style:4
Mustache Style:4
Sideburns:None
Face Leave as is.
Equipment:Team Sleeve left arm
Shoes: Nike, Nike Shox Bounce, Blue.
Attributes:
3Pt-85
Shooting Mid-95
Passing-85


Others-
Playingtime-48
Durability-99
Stamina-99
Potential-99

If we can post more attributes I'll add some more.:lol: dont count on it

Majpain
06-01-2007, 01:41 PM
:lol: dont count on it

Camon that stuff isnt that important :wink:

Besides it doesn't effect overall rating :tongue:

Mindwarp
06-01-2007, 02:02 PM
Leave it to an Ohio State Fan to try and cheat to win...

Motion
06-01-2007, 02:15 PM
Leave it to an Ohio State Fan to try and cheat to win...

:chuckle: Well they aren't having much luck the honest way.

Majpain
06-01-2007, 02:20 PM
Leave it to an Ohio State Fan to try and cheat to win...

:lol: Blasphemy!!

If Gatorade was never invented we would have won!!:tantrum::boohoo:


:chuckle: Well they aren't having much luck the honest way.

Low blows everywhere :boohoo:

sirvmac
06-01-2007, 02:35 PM
a couple of more players, and we will have enough to start something

Majpain
06-01-2007, 07:04 PM
I'm curious what are other stats are going to look like : /

sirvmac
06-02-2007, 12:31 AM
I'm curious what are other stats are going to look like : /
its all about the growth :lol:

Majpain
06-02-2007, 12:38 AM
its all about the growth :lol:


awww.

Well can I atleast get that 48 mins of playing time?

Also are you making the characters from 2k or NCAA(can you even import from NCAA?)?

Are we going to be in a drafT?

HysterikiLL
06-02-2007, 01:13 AM
i have no idea what this is, but is there still room for meh?

sirvmac
06-02-2007, 01:18 AM
basically, everyone is creating a character, i think we are taking up to 15ish. their characters will be created in the mor's nba 2k7 game which he will occasionally sim. We will also be creating a storyline to make it interesting. Its like a TV show of created players, something like that. If you have any cool story ideas, contact me or the mor. We are thinking about starting some kind of story before that draft, the players will be drafted onto random teams.

sirvmac
06-02-2007, 01:21 AM
if i counted correctly, we have around 8 players so far.

Majpain
06-02-2007, 01:45 AM
Is it possible to get my shoes to be the TC of who ever I get drafted by?

Mor you going to take screen caps of the stats and what not?

WestCKoastiN
06-02-2007, 02:39 AM
If you guys have room :D

Name: West Coast
Position: PF/C
Age: 21
Weight: 245
Height: 7'0
Equipment: Long White Socks for Home/Black Away, Head Band
Hair: Buzzcut
Skin: Tan
College: Duke University

HysterikiLL
06-02-2007, 03:21 AM
Name: Hyster Hester
Position: SG/SF/where ever I'm needed
Age: 19
Weight: 228
Height: 6'5''
College: Miiiiiiiaaaammmiiiiiiii
Equipment: all I need is the rock, baby...but make me look good
Also, choose 2 skills. For example: SPEED...quickness, acceleration, agility...all that good stuff...I need to be fast..fast..fast...i'll bust 'em, you punish 'em
Number: 23 or 26 or 36

americanmoose84
06-02-2007, 04:30 AM
Sounds fun if you need one more...
name:USA Moose
pos: SF/PF
ht: 6'6"
wt:240
eq: mid forearm band on left arm. Tats on both shoulders
hair: shaved bald
skin: tan
skills: Blocks and Dunks

Slappy8800
06-02-2007, 01:07 PM
fine i guess ill play along

name: rusty weiner
pos: whatever
ht: short as possible
weight: as big as possible
skin: pale
skills: i dunno make me a lebron type guy

and i want #69
hair: afro

Majpain
06-02-2007, 01:44 PM
fine i guess ill play along

name: rusty weiner
pos: whatever
ht: short as possible
weight: as big as possible
skin: pale
skills: i dunno make me a lebron type guy

and i want #69
hair: afro


:sidelol:

Slappy8800
06-07-2007, 05:02 PM
well whats the dealio here? i wanna see myself

mor911
06-07-2007, 05:07 PM
Not enough players yet :(

Slappy8800
06-07-2007, 05:14 PM
shenanigans!

Majpain
06-07-2007, 05:25 PM
Damn is this going to fall threw?

mor911
06-07-2007, 08:55 PM
Not enough players yet :(:yeahthat:

Flyer22
06-07-2007, 10:13 PM
If you need more players, I'm game.

Name: Matt Connolly
Position: SF/SG
Age: 24
Weight: 215 lbs.
Height: 6'6"
Equipment: Right wristband, team color
Skin: Dark white (I know that doesn't make sense...I'm mostly Irish but part Native American, if that helps)
Hair: Shaggy brown
Skills: Defense, Rebounding

StormSurge
06-13-2007, 11:36 AM
We're still short I assume?

mor911
06-13-2007, 11:46 AM
We're still short I assume?:yes: :boohoo:

Majpain
06-13-2007, 12:42 PM
jeez how many more do we need?

sirvmac
06-13-2007, 04:21 PM
maybe 4 more, I wanna get this started asap.

AirMarino83
06-13-2007, 05:57 PM
alrite, alrite...
mookie malone
sg/sf
6-5
210
number 4
arizona st. university
24 years old
appearance whatever
ankle black socks
lebron kicks white
all about defense... think prince/kirilenko... w/ good passing and avg other offensive skills

HysterikiLL
06-16-2007, 01:58 AM
3 more! :woot:

Alex44
06-16-2007, 02:27 AM
Hey I'm game I guess, tell me if you want more info:

Name: Alex Dones
Position: PG
Height: 6'2
Weight: 200
Number: 44
College: Miami (Florida)
Age: Youngest Available (18 if you can)
Equip: Black wristband each arm
Skin: White
Hair: Give me a black afro, Ive always wanted one :lol:
Shoes: Whatever looks cool
Skills: Passing and shooting (Average 3'd and good mid range game) and the rest of my skills average if possible

mor911
06-21-2007, 10:59 AM
This puts us at 13... you guys game to do this still?

King Felix
06-21-2007, 08:50 PM
yes yes lets still do this

Majpain
06-21-2007, 08:55 PM
Yes please :D

sirvmac
06-21-2007, 08:59 PM
Im still active, give me the go ahead and im able.
mor: who are the top rated players? :)

King Felix
06-21-2007, 09:05 PM
what a white team :lol:

sirvmac
06-21-2007, 09:12 PM
what a white team :lol:


hehe, I wonder where everyone will be drafted...

Fresh
06-23-2007, 04:43 AM
Name: Terrell Bailey
Position: PG/SG
Age: 19
Height: 6'4
Weight: 210
Skin: Monta Ellis complexion
Hair: Cornrows
Number: #32 or #24
Equipment: Long black socks; Kobe shoes matching whatever team, headband
Also, choose 2 skills: three point specialist and passing/ballhandling

^Make me a Wade type of PG/SG.

Dolfan984
06-23-2007, 06:24 AM
Name: Terrell Bailey
Position: SG
Age: 23
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 200
Skin: White
Hair: dirty blonde fade
Number: #13 or #84
Equipment: Make me look as goofy as you can :lol:
Also, choose 2 skills: midrange and steals

Skeet84
06-23-2007, 08:47 AM
Name: Brett Nelson
Position: SF
Age: 23
Weight: 6"8
Height: 225
Hair: Brown ( Just short )
Color: Tanned
#- 23 or 21
Equipment: Wrist band on right hand (Shooting hand)
Also, choose 2 skills. For example: Blocks and Three Pointers

Majpain
06-23-2007, 10:24 AM
Whats that I think we got our 15

SpurzN703
06-23-2007, 11:51 AM
I had forgotten about this **** but damnit we have enough so let's roll!

sirvmac
06-23-2007, 09:36 PM
coo, im waiting for the list of players and ratings, we can do this thang

FLOUNDER
06-23-2007, 10:08 PM
Do you still need some people? if so i'll join you guys. If not, that fine also


Name: Flounder
Position: PF
Age: 18
Height: 6'5
Weight: 265
Skin: White
Hair: buzzcut, brown hair
Number: 55
Equipment: Long socks

Majpain
06-23-2007, 10:23 PM
Yeah we just needed atleast 15.

Skeet84
06-24-2007, 12:39 AM
Is there gunna be two teams or just one?

Majpain
06-24-2007, 01:07 AM
I thought the deal was putting all 15 guys in the draft or something.

That way were on seperate teams.

Skeet84
06-24-2007, 01:22 AM
I thought the deal was putting all 15 guys in the draft or something.

That way were on seperate teams.


Oh Maybe thats what they do. I thought they created a team

sirvmac
06-24-2007, 01:44 PM
yea, we are gonna put the players into a draft and see where they go, it will be more realistic and fun tht way

Majpain
06-24-2007, 03:18 PM
BTW who is doing it? Is ir you Mac or Mor?

sirvmac
06-24-2007, 03:23 PM
mor is the one putting it on the vid game and stuff, im gonna help create a storyline of some sort.

Majpain
06-24-2007, 03:34 PM
ah ok.

Skeet84
06-24-2007, 04:39 PM
mor is the one putting it on the vid game and stuff, im gonna help create a storyline of some sort.


Sweet! Is Mor working on this now?

sirvmac
06-24-2007, 04:52 PM
hopefully :D

Majpain
06-26-2007, 05:38 PM
Any update?

sirvmac
06-26-2007, 05:43 PM
still waiting on the mor

mor911
06-26-2007, 05:59 PM
sorry boys. been crazy busy. I will do get nuts when i get home... My day to cook dinner tho :(

sirvmac
06-26-2007, 06:32 PM
take ur time man, we can wait

Skeet84
06-26-2007, 06:36 PM
Thanks Mor!

Slappy8800
06-26-2007, 06:37 PM
take ur time man, we can wait

i cant...thats it....im holding out!

mor911
06-27-2007, 05:50 PM
i messed with this thing for hours last night. Sucks to find his out so late, but 2K7 isn't our game. For a few reasons.

1. I can't create a rookie.

2. there's no way to create a league and start into a draft that has user created vets

3. I can't customize the season enough to make this work.

I need help and suggestions. Anyone well versed in 2k7? Anyone know if Live will do these things? I can download Live if so.

sirvmac
06-27-2007, 06:45 PM
I was also thinking about this last night, i was thinkin, we could simulate a season, and see what the draft order is, and then manually draft to the teams according to rating of the player as well as the team need in another franchise. this way, we can influence it a litle to fit our storyline. If we do this, we need to keep the draft order secret for a while as well as the player ratings, we should keep them secret between me, the mor, and someomne else who wants to help wit the storyline. After we create te rooks, we can manually place on a team in the draft order we got, then start a new franchise. that way, we can have 2k7 work with our storyline.

Slappy8800
06-27-2007, 06:46 PM
can we make my character married to JJ Redick?

Majpain
06-27-2007, 07:00 PM
i messed with this thing for hours last night. Sucks to find his out so late, but 2K7 isn't our game. For a few reasons.

1. I can't create a rookie.

2. there's no way to create a league and start into a draft that has user created vets

3. I can't customize the season enough to make this work.

I need help and suggestions. Anyone well versed in 2k7? Anyone know if Live will do these things? I can download Live if so.

Cant create a rookie in NBA 2K7? I can. The only way I see this work is like how Mac said. Maybe simulate 1 whole season the pick up from there?

Skeet84
06-28-2007, 06:06 PM
Whats the News on this? The sticky is gone

sirvmac
06-28-2007, 06:49 PM
I wanna keep doin this, hopefully we keep it goin

Skeet84
06-29-2007, 10:04 PM
does not look good

sirvmac
06-29-2007, 10:12 PM
does not look good

we should do it the way i mentioned above a couple of posts

Dan13Marino
07-01-2007, 12:41 PM
Can i still get in on this?

Skeet84
07-01-2007, 02:59 PM
Can i still get in on this?



I think this idea is dead.

Majpain
07-01-2007, 03:27 PM
Yeah looks that way : /

SpurzN703
07-02-2007, 04:10 PM
Cant create a rookie in NBA 2K7? I can. The only way I see this work is like how Mac said. Maybe simulate 1 whole season the pick up from there?

Aren't you able to create a rookie in the beginning of the season?

Enforcerfin33
07-02-2007, 04:40 PM
i cant...thats it....im holding out!
I would like to speak on my client Slappy's behalf as he doesnt want to hold out, but we are prepared to if our terms are not met. :cooldude:

Majpain
07-02-2007, 04:46 PM
Aren't you able to create a rookie in the beginning of the season?

Yeah

You just put Years pro R

You what you could do Mor

Put every NBA team on a piece of paper then put it in a hat and just draw and put that person on that team.

sirvmac
07-02-2007, 09:06 PM
Yeah

You just put Years pro R

You what you could do Mor

Put every NBA team on a piece of paper then put it in a hat and just draw and put that person on that team.

:yeahthat:

Majpain
07-02-2007, 09:37 PM
See its not dead :D