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guatemalanfan
07-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Only 2 selected and Washigton signed with the 49ers
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2934052

playmaker1
07-12-2007, 03:16 PM
Good pick ups for both teams.

HysterikiLL
07-12-2007, 03:20 PM
I wanted Gaither, but the Ravens could be the best place for him. He's going to be a Jon Ogden molded player, and so who better to learn from? He also gets to stay in Maryland (was he born there?).

playmaker1
07-12-2007, 03:27 PM
I wanted Gaither, but the Ravens could be the best place for him. He's going to be a Jon Ogden molded player, and so who better to learn from? He also gets to stay in Maryland (was he born there?).

Yeah, him and Ben Grubbs will be on that line for a long time

Austin Tatious
07-12-2007, 06:11 PM
Chargers take Oliver in the 4th.

My guess is Miami narrows the pool of players we want to good character guys. Gaither was a risk, compounded by the lack of a pick already due to Trent Green.

I disagree with this. You wouldn't get a Gaither type talent for a 4th, which is what we should have bid. For an OT starved team, this was a chance worth taking. His baggage didn't seem overwhelming by football player standards. Granted, his lack of functional strength in the running game is problematic, and perhaps that was a major reason for Miami's lack of interest.

Nevertheless, Miami's failure to address the tackle position is a long standing problem for the development of this team and needs to be handled once and for all. Taking fliers on kids with the lack of mental ability to play, like Jason Allen, at the expense of the all-important tackle position, puts a low ceiling on this team's growth.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2934052

phatmatt
07-12-2007, 06:23 PM
I agree completely with you. Normally I am a skeptic of the supplementary draft but in my humble opinion there are going to be 31 other teams outside of the Ravens that regret not putting in a higher pick on Gaither. With regards to Oliver I also think there's a pretty good chance he turns out to be a starting caliber CB. If true, that's not a bad deal for a 4th rd draft pick.

jdang307
07-12-2007, 06:48 PM
Taking fliers on kids with the lack of mental ability to play, like Jason Allen.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2934052
First, where do you get this? Based off one season under Saban who apparently yanked everyone's chain personnel wise (not starting Bell until way too damn late)? Put him in Safety, then Corner, back to Safety, now back to Corner again. From what I hear Allen is a very intelligent person I'm sure he can play mentally.

Two they said the exact same thign about Vernon Carey, too dump to play. Well he turned out alright.

HybridPHIN 23
07-12-2007, 07:08 PM
Taking fliers on kids with the lack of mental ability to play, like Jason Allen, at the expense of the all-important tackle position, puts a low ceiling on this team's growth.



Since when does Allen have a lack of mental ability to play ???? that's nonsense!!!!! All i've heard is that he's a got a great head on his shoulders and excellent work ethic.

playmaker1
07-12-2007, 07:39 PM
Chargers take Oliver in the 4th.

My guess is Miami narrows the pool of players we want to good character guys. Gaither was a risk, compounded by the lack of a pick already due to Trent Green.

I disagree with this. You wouldn't get a Gaither type talent for a 4th, which is what we should have bid. For an OT starved team, this was a chance worth taking. His baggage didn't seem overwhelming by football player standards. Granted, his lack of functional strength in the running game is problematic, and perhaps that was a major reason for Miami's lack of interest.

Nevertheless, Miami's failure to address the tackle position is a long standing problem for the development of this team and needs to be handled once and for all. Taking fliers on kids with the lack of mental ability to play, like Jason Allen, at the expense of the all-important tackle position, puts a low ceiling on this team's growth.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2934052

Miami failed to address the tackle position?? Why, because we didn't throw a future draft pick at guy with problems and immaturity on and off the field. So the "flyer" we took on Manny Wright was what you want to see this team do more of? Face it. The suplimental draft very rarely puts out any guys that will produce. So I'm not to worried that we didn't bring in a "higher ceiling for the team's growth".

Vertical Limit
07-13-2007, 11:35 AM
So the Chargers drafted Antonio Cromartie and Paul Oliver in back to back seasons. Their secondary is looking good for the future.

Martel
07-13-2007, 02:30 PM
i wish we would have given a fifth for Gaither

Skeet84
07-13-2007, 09:17 PM
A 5th for Gaither would have been nice, But maybe the Dolphins seen something they did not like

playmaker1
07-14-2007, 11:15 PM
After our luck with the whole Manny deal. I'm Glad we didn't draft anyone.
I'm not saying that Gaither will be like Manny was. But remember how happy we were to draft him.

Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.

Comment:
Wright has good size, functional strength and developmental tools. He has some versatility in multiple defensive fronts. He flashes the ability to hold his ground against combination patterns. He can create a new line of scrimmage when he uses his hands properly while engaging with blockers. He works hard and is a willing chase player. He can grab and use his strong hands to engulf ball carriers as a tackler. He seems limited to power rushes. But Wright needs to improve his conditioning and technique. He comes off the ball upright and must play with better leverage against the run. He doesn't always stay square, gets turned in the hole and opens run lanes. He leads with his shoulder and head too often and doesn't consistently use his hands. He is a limited pass rusher. He lacks short-area quickness, lateral mobility and closing speed. He has few countermoves.

Greatness920
07-19-2007, 10:00 AM
So the Chargers drafted Antonio Cromartie and Paul Oliver in back to back seasons. Their secondary is looking good for the future.

we should of drafted antonio cromartie instead of jason allen..