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phinfan27
08-08-2003, 09:34 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/football/pro/buccaneers/orl-sptbucs08080803aug08,0,4620932.story?coll=orl-bucs


I wouldn't mind to see Wade take out his knee and end his career..

dolfan87
08-08-2003, 09:46 AM
I have ALWAYS hated Sapp. The guy is a punk, I don't care how good of a player he is. There is a right way to play and live, and there is a wrong way. Sapp is all wrong.

phinfan27
08-08-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by dolfan87
I have ALWAYS hated Sapp. The guy is a punk, I don't care how good of a player he is. There is a right way to play and live, and there is a wrong way. Sapp is all wrong.

I hated him when he played for Miami and I hate him when he plays now. I wish the worst for him.

Penthos
08-08-2003, 09:53 AM
Yea, he may be a good player, but he doesn't have to be an a$$hole.

I'd like to see Wade or somebody hit him with the kind of hit he put on that Greenbay lineman who wasn't looking last year...

Superself
08-08-2003, 09:59 AM
Ok, lets stop the crying for Gods sake!

Its not like Sapp is out there killing people or anything. The guy is a damn good football player. Can you hate him, sure, but hoping the guy gets a season ending injury is taking it a bit too far in my opinion.
He hasn't done anything to personally attack you so why even go there?

Its one thing to have a big mouth--which Sapp does, but he backs it up with his play...now the guy has a super bowl ring and is the best at his position. You are hating on a guy because he doesn't act the way you want him to act....so what?
Go live your life....Sapp isn't a part of it.

Sofa_King_Drunk
08-08-2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Superself
Ok, lets stop the crying for Gods sake!

Its not like Sapp is out there killing people or anything. The guy is a damn good football player. Can you hate him, sure, but hoping the guy gets a season ending injury is taking it a bit too far in my opinion.
He hasn't done anything to personally attack you so why even go there?

Its one thing to have a big mouth--which Sapp does, but he backs it up with his play...now the guy has a super bowl ring and is the best at his position. You are hating on a guy because he doesn't act the way you want him to act....so what?
Go live your life....Sapp isn't a part of it.

I agree with everything you said except the part about Sapp being the best at his position. He's not even the best DT on his own team anymore. I'd pick Booger McFarland over him every time! (pun intended of course)

Smacks
08-08-2003, 10:25 AM
Its one thing to say that you want someone to pulverize Sapp or any player you don't like to the ground but its a complete different story when you want the guy to receive an injury that ends his career. I'm not a big fan of Sapp but he brings something different to the game. The way to shut him up is to kick him on his butt.

Penthos
08-08-2003, 10:44 AM
Quit crying about me crying, I'm just hoping for what the league has termed a perfectly legal hit... If it ends his career then so be it... I certainly wouldn't feel sorry for him... Its not like he doesn't have enough jack to feed his fat face... I'm just hoping he gets what he gives.

What are you saying Superself that because someone is good or successful at something I have to like them? That it automatically makes him a good human being?

I'm hating the guy because IMO he is an utter a$$shole and a bad sporstman.

phinfan27
08-08-2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by 13isgr81
Yea, he may be a good player, but he doesn't have to be an a$$hole.

I'd like to see Wade or somebody hit him with the kind of hit he put on that Greenbay lineman who wasn't looking last year...

I'd love to see that.

XoPhinsoX
08-08-2003, 11:53 AM
The thing about Sapp is this (from my point of view).

He doesn't seem to respect people who he thinks are "lower" then him, he only befriends (is that spelled right?) people who can either give him more money or people who can help him get more money. The guy just doesn't care about anyone but himself and his "teammates". When they asked if he wanted to be on the Bucs last year he didn't even answer the question correctly.

Someone who won't shake a fellow NFL players hand and throws kids out of elevators doesn't seem like a real cool guy in any means. Eh, karma is a bitch, he'll go down.

Den54
08-08-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by 13isgr81
Quit crying about me crying, I'm just hoping for what the league has termed a perfectly legal hit... If it ends his career then so be it... I certainly wouldn't feel sorry for him... Its not like he doesn't have enough jack to feed his fat face... I'm just hoping he gets what he gives.

What are you saying Superself that because someone is good or successful at something I have to like them? That it automatically makes him a good human being?

I'm hating the guy because IMO he is an utter a$$shole and a bad sporstman.

I agree. ;)

XoPhinsoX
08-08-2003, 12:24 PM
Sapp tends to think he's above the game.

You just don't skip through peoples stretches and ****.

M-REAL
08-08-2003, 12:35 PM
Right. That is so disrespectful and it's really not even funny. If that guy would have skipped through our team's D like that-nfl tough guy or not, he would have been dropped. I don't know anyone who could take on an entire varsity defense, I don't care how big you are. I knew a guy(capt. of D) that would have cracked Sapp's head with his helmet for a stunt like that. Sapp can play ball good but he does think he's better now than everyone under him.(Ego maniac)

IceStorm
08-08-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by 13isgr81
Yea, he may be a good player, but he doesn't have to be an a$$hole.

I disagree. Sapp is not that good of a player. What I see is him spouting off with his mouth to make up for his lack of talent. Think about it for a moment. There are many other players in the league that are better then he is. I mean, heck even his own team won't deal with his contract because they already have players on the team that are better then he is.

So he uses his mouth to get attention, not his talent...or lack there of.

Baz
08-08-2003, 12:58 PM
Seriously, skipping through pregame warm-ups is a huge slap in the face, especially from a player standpoint. Thats a huge sign of disrespect. I had no idea he did that. No matter who you are and what your status in society is, there is a corect way to treat people. Sapp needs to learn that quick......

phinfan27
08-08-2003, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by M-REAL
Right. That is so disrespectful and it's really not even funny. If that guy would have skipped through our team's D like that-nfl tough guy or not, he would have been dropped. I don't know anyone who could take on an entire varsity defense, I don't care how big you are. I knew a guy(capt. of D) that would have cracked Sapp's head with his helmet for a stunt like that. Sapp can play ball good but he does think he's better now than everyone under him.(Ego maniac)

I'm surprised Wade didn't get cocky or something. Wade isn't a small dude either......

-81- McMichael
08-08-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by 13isgr81
Quit crying about me crying, I'm just hoping for what the league has termed a perfectly legal hit... If it ends his career then so be it... I certainly wouldn't feel sorry for him... Its not like he doesn't have enough jack to feed his fat face... I'm just hoping he gets what he gives.

What are you saying Superself that because someone is good or successful at something I have to like them? That it automatically makes him a good human being?

I'm hating the guy because IMO he is an utter a$$shole and a bad sporstman.

13isgr81, you are "THE MAN".

Sapp is a mother####ing, stupid, loudmouth, ignorant AND arrogant, insecure (yes, he is - why else would he compensate to such a ridiculous extent?), pathetic excuse for a human being.

I ABSOLUTELY WELCOME a perfectly clean hit that blows his f***ing knee COMPLETELY out AND then, to top it off, he immediately has one of the other players inadvertently land on it (forward progress or something), thereby incurring EVEN MORE damage to the knee! And pain. So there, goddammit!

Sapp represents all that's ef'd up in our society... all the BULL**** attitude that only lends to helping young people lose interest in school or any kind of self-improvement. What he exemplifies is a ME-first, ME-OOOONLY attitude. Well I say, "F*** that!" And f*** him.

And if/when something horribly painful happens to that fat SOB I will get that sh** on tape and play it over, and over, and over again. Hell, I'll even giftwrap the damn tape and send it to him every x-mas with a note saying, "Couldn't have happened to a bigger PUNK! Serves you right, bastard!"

There! I'm done.

Sapp can kiss my...

Den54
08-08-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by -81- McMichael


13isgr81, you are "THE MAN".

Sapp is a mother####ing, stupid, loudmouth, ignorant AND arrogant, insecure (yes, he is - why else would he compensate to such a ridiculous extent?), pathetic excuse for a human being.

I ABSOLUTELY WELCOME a perfectly clean hit that blows his f***ing knee COMPLETELY out AND then, to top it off, he immediately has one of the other players inadvertently land on it (forward progress or something), thereby incurring EVEN MORE damage to the knee! And pain. So there, goddammit!

Sapp represents all that's ef'd up in our society... all the BULL**** attitude that only lends to helping young people lose interest in school or any kind of self-improvement. What he exemplifies is a ME-first, ME-OOOONLY attitude. Well I say, "F*** that!" And f*** him.

And if/when something horribly painful happens to that fat SOB I will get that sh** on tape and play it over, and over, and over again. Hell, I'll even giftwrap the damn tape and send it to him every x-mas with a note saying, "Couldn't have happened to a bigger PUNK! Serves you right, bastard!"

There! I'm done.

Sapp can kiss my...


Preach it my Dolfan Brother!!!!!!:hail:

DPlus47
08-08-2003, 02:11 PM
people wishing injury on others could be construed as something else that's wrong with our society. there's an old saying about two wrongs... anyway, i'm not a big sapp fan, but sometimes he can be entertaining. in one of the recent articles hyping up the game with the fins, he said "i love ruddy" and mentioned how the fins are always trying to replace him and he always keeps showing up and winning the job. he also gave major props to dixon. doesn't sound TOTALLY self-absorbed to me... i think he can be a horse's a** at times, but look at the big picture: it works for him. we have a thread about him, people know who he is... as for the clifton hit, if you're gonna be jogging down the football field not looking around you and not expecting to be blocked why don't you just lie down on the ground and stay there? football is a violent sport, and while the hit was marginal (they were away from the ball) the problem on the play started with clifton's total lack of awareness.

IceStorm
08-08-2003, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by -81- McMichael


13isgr81, you are "THE MAN".

Sapp is a mother####ing, stupid, loudmouth, ignorant AND arrogant, insecure (yes, he is - why else would he compensate to such a ridiculous extent?), pathetic excuse for a human being.

I ABSOLUTELY WELCOME a perfectly clean hit that blows his f***ing knee COMPLETELY out AND then, to top it off, he immediately has one of the other players inadvertently land on it (forward progress or something), thereby incurring EVEN MORE damage to the knee! And pain. So there, goddammit!

Sapp represents all that's ef'd up in our society... all the BULL**** attitude that only lends to helping young people lose interest in school or any kind of self-improvement. What he exemplifies is a ME-first, ME-OOOONLY attitude. Well I say, "F*** that!" And f*** him.

And if/when something horribly painful happens to that fat SOB I will get that sh** on tape and play it over, and over, and over again. Hell, I'll even giftwrap the damn tape and send it to him every x-mas with a note saying, "Couldn't have happened to a bigger PUNK! Serves you right, bastard!"

There! I'm done.

Sapp can kiss my...


Its a good thing you're not bitter! :lol: Dont hold back next time, tell us how you really feel. :goof:

-81- McMichael
08-08-2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by IceStorm
Its a good thing you're not bitter! :lol: Dont hold back next time, tell us how you really feel. :goof:

My therapist keeps saying I'll eventually get "there". :lol: :D

For now I'll keep taking the pretty blue pills! :jumper:

XoPhinsoX
08-08-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by IceStorm


I disagree. Sapp is not that good of a player. What I see is him spouting off with his mouth to make up for his lack of talent. Think about it for a moment. There are many other players in the league that are better then he is. I mean, heck even his own team won't deal with his contract because they already have players on the team that are better then he is.

So he uses his mouth to get attention, not his talent...or lack there of.

I agree.

Like a lot of players can (even though they are talented) like Lewis, Vick, guys who are flashy get a lot of attention. Then you have Sapp..with his mouth which gets him attention and endorsements :(

Den54
08-08-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by -81- McMichael


My therapist keeps saying I'll eventually get "there". :lol: :D

For now I'll keep taking the pretty blue pills! :jumper:

Viagra and Aggression is a deadly mix for some poor recipient of your affection.:lol:

Prime Time
08-08-2003, 03:13 PM
HE may be good but he is an asshole.

Pagan
08-08-2003, 03:40 PM
*sigh* What ever happened to players like Barry Sanders.....score a TD, hand the ball to the ref and head back to the huddle....how come there's no one like that anymore?

Oh yea.....that's why....you need class to do that.....silly me!

-81- McMichael
08-08-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Den54
Viagra and Aggression is a deadly mix for some poor recipient of your affection.:lol:

I don't know, I had this one crzy girlfriend (total and complete freak) that suuuure seemed to like that combination. :D

Fact is, I had to "deliver" upon request! :eek:

Not as enviable a position as one might imagine it to be.

XoPhinsoX
08-08-2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Pagan
*sigh* What ever happened to players like Barry Sanders.....score a TD, hand the ball to the ref and head back to the huddle....how come there's no one like that anymore?

Oh yea.....that's why....you need class to do that.....silly me!

Well, you don't see Ricky doing a whole lot of celebration really ;).

He spikes it here and there :lol:

Penthos
08-08-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by DPlus47
people wishing injury on others could be construed as something else that's wrong with our society. there's an old saying about two wrongs...

Say I take it you are against the death penalty.

Coolguy3
08-08-2003, 04:45 PM
Thing that bothers me is why did Zach Thomas laugh? Every other dolphin fan is pissed off. That kinda bugs me.

I just wish that he would get the **** knocked outta him and then be taunted while he lay there on the ground. Who cares about the taunting penality cause it's preseason.

Unconquered
08-08-2003, 04:48 PM
Sapp is a typical UM player. All UM players make those kinds of statements...look at Shokey, R. Lewis even Portis. Its a UM attitude...extreme cockiness. I dont hate him at all.

phinfan27
08-08-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by -81- McMichael


13isgr81, you are "THE MAN".

Sapp is a mother####ing, stupid, loudmouth, ignorant AND arrogant, insecure (yes, he is - why else would he compensate to such a ridiculous extent?), pathetic excuse for a human being.

I ABSOLUTELY WELCOME a perfectly clean hit that blows his f***ing knee COMPLETELY out AND then, to top it off, he immediately has one of the other players inadvertently land on it (forward progress or something), thereby incurring EVEN MORE damage to the knee! And pain. So there, goddammit!

Sapp represents all that's ef'd up in our society... all the BULL**** attitude that only lends to helping young people lose interest in school or any kind of self-improvement. What he exemplifies is a ME-first, ME-OOOONLY attitude. Well I say, "F*** that!" And f*** him.

And if/when something horribly painful happens to that fat SOB I will get that sh** on tape and play it over, and over, and over again. Hell, I'll even giftwrap the damn tape and send it to him every x-mas with a note saying, "Couldn't have happened to a bigger PUNK! Serves you right, bastard!"

There! I'm done.

Sapp can kiss my...

Hell yeah! I feel the same!!

-81- McMichael
08-08-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Unconquered
Sapp is a typical UM player. All UM players make those kinds of statements...look at Shokey, R. Lewis even Portis. Its a UM attitude...extreme cockiness. I dont hate him at all.

I knew Bernie Kosar and he was/is one of the classiest players ever to wear a Hurricane's uniform. Of course, he was a quarterback. I know, I know!

But I also knew Jerome Brown. Remember him? He played for the Eagles when they had that AMAZING defense. Sadly, he died in a freak car accident years back.

Anyway, he was one of the first UM players to start that whole "attitude" thing. HOWEVER, he KNEW where to draw the line. He knew how far was too far. And he did NOT cross that line. He pushed the envelope, no doubt - especially back then (mid to late 80's). But he never lost his Self respect (if you know what I mean).

Sapp's behavior? It's like taking a crap over yourself with every word coming out of your mouth.

THAT is when a person crosses over the line between Self respect and self-love... which is what Sapp's all about... me, me, me.

Pathetic.

RIP, Jerome Brown. You were one cool mother-fo!

phinfan27
08-08-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by -81- McMichael


I knew Bernie Kosar and he was/is one of the classiest players ever to wear a Hurricane's uniform. Of course, he was a quarterback. I know, I know!

But I also knew Jerome Brown. Remember him? He played for the Eagles when they had that AMAZING defense. Sadly, he died in a freak car accident years back.

Anyway, he was one of the first UM players to start that whole "attitude" thing. HOWEVER, he KNEW where to draw the line. He knew how far was too far. And he did NOT cross that line. He pushed the envelope, no doubt - especially back then (mid to late 80's). But he never lost his Self respect (if you know what I mean).

Sapp's behavior? It's like taking a crap over yourself with every word coming out of your mouth.

THAT is when a person crosses over the line between Self respect and self-love... which is what Sapp's all about... me, me, me.

Pathetic.

RIP, Jerome Brown. You were one cool mother-fo!

Brown was such a nice guy. He was a pro bowler with the Eagles. He lived by me, and I played his son in baseball a few years back. He plays for UCF now.

Unconquered
08-08-2003, 05:12 PM
I wont deny that Sapp is taking it to the extreme and Im not saying its every single one of them either. But since the Canes glory days thats the way its been. We know we are the best, you better respect us like we are the best and it is your honor to be on the same field as us.

I love it!! =)

Superself
08-08-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by 13isgr81
Quit crying about me crying, I'm just hoping for what the league has termed a perfectly legal hit... If it ends his career then so be it... I certainly wouldn't feel sorry for him... Its not like he doesn't have enough jack to feed his fat face... I'm just hoping he gets what he gives.

What are you saying Superself that because someone is good or successful at something I have to like them? That it automatically makes him a good human being?

I'm hating the guy because IMO he is an utter a$$shole and a bad sporstman.

Did I say that? Did I F**Kin say that??!!!!!
I didn't say you HAD to like the man. All I'm saying is you don't have to wish bodily harm on someone just because you don't like their attitude. PERIOD THATS IT DUDE!!! GET IT NOW??!!!
GOOD!

For those of you who don't think he is the best at his position, I challenge you to name someone who has been better than him in the past 5 years?
Sapp brings more than a physical presence, he dominates and I'd love to have someone on our squad like hime. Sapp is the freakin BAR other DTs are measured by.

NCFINFAN38
08-08-2003, 05:19 PM
Well I for one hate Sapp and wish the SOB would get some of what he has been dishing out. I would like to see him in some pain myself. He is a punk and a big mouth.......but then again if he was on the trading block and the Bucs wanted to go straight up for say Bowens I would be all over it. He does make his team mates play to a higher level. Punk or not he would bring the atitude that we are missing.

-81- McMichael
08-08-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by NCFINFAN38
Well I for one hate Sapp and wish the SOB would get some of what he has been dishing out. I would like to see him in some pain myself. He is a punk and a big mouth.......but then again if he was on the trading block and the Bucs wanted to go straight up for say Bowens I would be all over it. He does make his team mates play to a higher level. Punk or not he would bring the atitude that we are missing.

I kind of agree with you... but I think that Jr. and Knight have brought that to our D now... and they do it with "just a little bit more class" than Sapp.

-81- McMichael
08-08-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Unconquered
We know we are the best, you better respect us like we are the best and it is your honor to be on the same field as us.

I love it!! =)

Agreed! THAT attitude is :cool: and it has worked for UM for years. Sometimes, believing in yourself like that is enough to "lift" you beyond what you even thought yourself capable of.

Coolguy3
08-08-2003, 05:27 PM
I think JT is better than Sapp.

-81- McMichael
08-08-2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by phinfan34
Brown was such a nice guy. He was a pro bowler with the Eagles. He lived by me, and I played his son in baseball a few years back. He plays for UCF now.

Brown was a gentle giant... who stomped NFL quarterbacks and made mincemeat out of runningbacks! :lol:

He had a real love for life. Happy, humble man. You could just tell by how he carried himself. Most people would be surprised at how soft-spoken he really was.

That's cool that you were his neighbor and that you got to play baseball with his son. I never met him. He as big a monster as his old man?

phinfan27
08-08-2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by -81- McMichael


Brown was a gentle giant... who stomped NFL quarterbacks and made mincemeat out of runningbacks! :lol:

He had a real love for life. Happy, humble man. You could just tell by how he carried himself. Most people would be surprised at how soft-spoken he really was.

That's cool that you were his neighbor and that you got to play baseball with his son. I never met him. He as big a monster as his old man?

Ya he is big and very strong. He will probably play MLB baseball soon. He plays football and baseball for UCF. I know they suck, but that is still an accomplishment.

pmoon6
08-08-2003, 06:09 PM
Jim Kelly went to UM and he's in the HOF!

pmoon6
08-08-2003, 06:15 PM
Seriously,anyone that enjoys seeing a player hurt is not a football fan.Football is just a GAME,players are real people and they can go down at any time.I know too many guys that did exactly that.Love your team,love the game,but don't wish injury on any player.

phinfan27
08-08-2003, 06:20 PM
Warren Sapp is an ***. He deserves everything he gets.

Scrap
08-08-2003, 06:35 PM
We can spin it any way we want. He does these things to get in the other teams head. Most of us who say we hate him would blow a load if he signed with our Dolphins. His mouth would be much more tolerable if he was in a Dolphin uniform.

iceblizzard69
08-08-2003, 07:36 PM
Sapp is a douchebag. He should have gotten suspended for the unnecessary hit he put on Chad Clifton last year. I don't want to see any NFL player get injured, Sapp included, but he annoys me more than any other NFL player.

Muck
08-08-2003, 10:19 PM
How about this?? I call BS.

That article makes it sound like Sapp was just killing our offensive line. I was there that day. I was in the bleachers about 20 feet away from the players. And the biggest thing Sapp did was take a p*ss on the outfield wall.

Yeah, he beat a rookie tackle (Wade) in a 1-on-1 drill. Then he did his dance. Congratulations.

Meanwhile, Mark Dixon was kicking Sapp's azz (as usual) in those drills. And Wade was driving Marcus Jones into the ground.

Honestly, we had success that day. And then we went out and ran roughshod over them in the preseason game. Lamar had like 77 yards in the 1st quarter.

So big deal. BS has been called and confirmed. Sapp's an azzhole who's on the decline. You run at him and he disappears.

Biggunndunn
08-09-2003, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by phinfan34
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/football/pro/buccaneers/orl-sptbucs08080803aug08,0,4620932.story?coll=orl-bucs


I wouldn't mind to see Wade take out his knee and end his career..

thas not cool to say about anybody...that drops you to pure scum level

Biggunndunn
08-09-2003, 02:02 PM
and you guys say you hate him but he shows up in your threads alot.

XoPhinsoX
08-10-2003, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Biggunndunn
and you guys say you hate him but he shows up in your threads alot.

Hardly..

Oh, btw, this thread is directed towards him is why :cool: