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sleek
07-30-2007, 09:54 AM
The past couple of years IMO we have faired okay against division rivals.Division rivals have to be our number one priority. With taking an overview of the Pats, Jets, and Bills how do you guys feel we match up in our division?One thing I feel all our division rivals will have in common this year is good speedy recieving cores which leads me to question our secondary. I feel like we have a decent secondary ,a lot of guys with potential to become more complete players, but I dont feel like we have much veteran presence.IMO when we had Madison,Surtain ,and Marion,etc. it was very beneficial in our particular division.(I am not saying we need these guys back but maybe one solid, current,complete all around veteran could be beneficial).What areas do you guys think would help us to become more successful against our AFC rivals?

dolpns13
07-30-2007, 10:05 AM
My quick summarization...

1. NE
2. Miami
3. NYJ
4. Buffalo

feelthepain
07-30-2007, 10:09 AM
Until we prove otherwise, this is how I see it.

NE
NYJ
MIA
BUF

Until Miami can add a good offense, we will remain in that order IMO.

dolpns13
07-30-2007, 10:14 AM
Until we prove otherwise, this is how I see it.

NE
NYJ
MIA
BUF

Until Miami can add a good offense, we will remain in that order IMO.

There is one thing that is consistent with almost everything I have read and heard and that is that Miami and NYJ will battle it out for 2nd and Buffalo will be 4th

finfan54
07-30-2007, 10:29 AM
The jets as a blueprint is one i do not want to follow. The Jets get lucky every year against us. Lucky. And as the season goes on......thats what it ends up being. Lucky.

I would rather follow NE's blueprint with finding a QB who is as good as Brady, then we can talk superbowl, but Pennington is a fairyman.

Nosferatu
07-30-2007, 10:38 AM
1 NE
2 NYJ / Miami battle it out
4 Buffalosers

tay0365
07-30-2007, 10:44 AM
My quick summarization...

1. NE
2. Miami
3. NYJ
4. Buffalo

Agree

PBFloyd
07-30-2007, 10:48 AM
1 NE
2 NYJ / Miami battle it out
4 Buffalosers

Ditto...

Unfortunatly NE is the top dawg; until that is someone beats them down, and I hope that someone is Miami. Buffalo is the stinker of the East this year; and the those Jets somehow find ways to beat us, so we will have to fight it out with them.

jetsh8r
07-30-2007, 10:48 AM
The Jets are highly overrated. Sure they beat us twice last year, but they only won one game against a team with a winning record.

CammyCamCam
07-30-2007, 01:14 PM
1. NE
2. Miami
3. Buffalo
4. Jets

FORMER FIN1
07-30-2007, 01:26 PM
Ditto...

Unfortunatly NE is the top dawg; until that is someone beats them down, and I hope that someone is Miami. Buffalo is the stinker of the East this year; and the those Jets somehow find ways to beat us, so we will have to fight it out with them.


Yeah Buck Fluffalo, oh wait a minute I already said that.

Brassmonki14120
07-30-2007, 01:35 PM
N.E. 13-3
Jets 10-6
Buffalo 8-8
Miami 4-12

Rock Sexton
07-30-2007, 01:39 PM
I'd say fairly well to well. :wink:

dolpns13
07-30-2007, 01:40 PM
N.E. 13-3
Jets 10-6
Buffalo 8-8
Miami 4-12

:sidelol:

JayMang
07-30-2007, 01:43 PM
The one thing about the Jets though is that due to whatever unexplainable cosmic formula, in the last two decades they have never really been able to put two quality seasons together back-to-back.

SHEDDAWG DOLFAN
07-30-2007, 01:50 PM
I may seem like an optimist here but, with consistent QB play, and with the D we have, I see us winning 10 games this year...Looking at the Schedule, heres how I see it

New England 11-5,.... 1-1 vs Miami
Miami 10-6
Jets 8-8,..... 1-1 vs Miami
Bills 4-12,.... 2-0 vs Miami

BLITZKRIEG
07-30-2007, 02:03 PM
1. New England Patriots
2. NY Jets
3. Miami Dolphins
4. Buffalo Bills

That's the way I see it unfolding this year.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

pupkus7
07-30-2007, 02:04 PM
I Say...

1. MIAMI
2. The Rest

:kick:

tcdrover
07-30-2007, 02:08 PM
I think we're just behind the Pats.

But I think we fell further behind the Pats now that they added Welker & Moss.

We always matched up good against them, but unless they implode or Brady gets injured we will not match up quite as well this year, IMO....

zenile
07-30-2007, 02:08 PM
1. Patriots 12 - 4
2. Miami 10 - 6
3. New York Jets 9 -7
4. Buffalo Jill 7 - 9

Brassmonki14120
07-30-2007, 02:11 PM
:sidelol:

Really? That far off huh?

Captain Lou
07-30-2007, 02:13 PM
My quick summarization...

1. NE
2. Miami
3. NYJ
4. Buffalo

We were 1-5 against the division last year. I'd be happy if we went 3-3 this year.

dolpns13
07-30-2007, 02:19 PM
Really? That far off huh?

oh yeah

dolpns13
07-30-2007, 02:20 PM
We were 1-5 against the division last year. I'd be happy if we went 3-3 this year.

different year, different team.

you give discounted mortgages for dolphins fans...awesome!

PhinzN703
07-30-2007, 02:21 PM
N.E. 13-3
Jets 10-6
Buffalo 8-8
Miami 4-12

Never could've predicted that :err:

Jets81
07-30-2007, 02:35 PM
The jets as a blueprint is one i do not want to follow. The Jets get lucky every year against us. Lucky. And as the season goes on......thats what it ends up being. Lucky.

I would rather follow NE's blueprint with finding a QB who is as good as Brady, then we can talk superbowl, but Pennington is a fairyman.


If lucky wins games then I'll take lucky every time. Finding a Brady should be easy too, just hit up your local greenhouse. I hear they grow on tree's these days.


Pats 11-5
Jets 9-7
Bills 7-9
Phins 6-10

Brassmonki14120
07-30-2007, 02:43 PM
N.E. 13-3
Jets 10-6
Buffalo 8-8
Miami 4-12

If you look at the teams and schedules it's not hard to come up with this conclusion.

rdhstlr23
07-30-2007, 02:54 PM
Anything's possible. Miami could go 0-16 or 16-0. I mean those chances are very, very small, but possible. It's still too early to make my predictions. The first 3 days of practice haven't changed my stance either---although the blogs haven't been extremely encouraging.

I still believe the Bills will finish last in the division. I still believe the Patriots will win the division. Unlike some people, mostly Pats fans, I think the division will be highly competitive. Just like it has been really the past 2 years.

Pats 11-5
Fins 9-7
Jets 8-8
Bills 6-10

retired opfinistic
07-30-2007, 02:59 PM
N.E. 13-3
Jets 10-6
Buffalo 8-8
Miami 4-12

If you look at the teams and schedules it's not hard to come up with this conclusion.
I guess being an anti-Dolphin homer helps too. :lol:

Brassmonki14120
07-30-2007, 03:13 PM
I guess being an anti-Dolphin homer helps too. :lol:

Just a lil bit.

Here is your schedule. I may have given the Phins a game or two.

@ Wash- Loss
Dallas- Loss
@ Jets- Loss
Oak- Win
@ Houston- Loss
@ Cle- Win
NE- Loss
Giants- Loss
Buf- Loss
@ Philly- Loss
@ Pitt- Loss
Jets- Loss
@ Buf- Loss
Balt- Loss
@ NE- Loss
Cincy- Loss

Zeke0123
07-30-2007, 03:31 PM
NE Between 9-7 and 13-3
Jets Between 7-9 and 11-5
Phins Between 6-10 and 10-6
Bills Between 6-10 and 10-6

trying to prognosticate any closer than that isnt realistic.

dolpns13
07-30-2007, 04:15 PM
Just a lil bit.

Here is your schedule. I may have given the Phins a game or two.

@ Wash- Win
Dallas- Win
@ Jets- Loss
Oak- Win
@ Houston- Win
@ Cle- Win
NE- Win
Giants- Win
Buf- Win
@ Philly- Loss
@ Pitt- Loss
Jets- Win
@ Buf- Win
Balt- Loss
@ NE- Loss
Cincy- Loss

:sidelol: Oh man...These posts are funnier than your Avatar. Here, Ill help you out a bit.

10- 6 sounds much more realistic

Captain Lou
07-30-2007, 04:23 PM
different year, different team.

you give discounted mortgages for dolphins fans...awesome!


No, I'll give you best mortgage you qualify for. Which sadly isnt a common practice in the industry. :)

BwanaZulia
07-30-2007, 04:25 PM
The jets as a blueprint is one i do not want to follow. The Jets get lucky every year against us. Lucky. And as the season goes on......thats what it ends up being. Lucky.

I would rather follow NE's blueprint with finding a QB who is as good as Brady, then we can talk superbowl, but Pennington is a fairyman.

I love that. "Lucky" and not only "lucky" but "Lucky every year".

I guess Tiger Woods gets "Lucky" and "Lucky every year".

:)

BZ

Jets81
07-30-2007, 04:26 PM
:sidelol: Oh man...These posts are funnier than your Avatar. Here, Ill help you out a bit.

10- 6 sounds much more realistic

No. No it doesn't.

dolpns13
07-30-2007, 04:27 PM
No, I'll give you best mortgage you qualify for. Which sadly isnt a common practice in the industry. :)

Whats common practice

BwanaZulia
07-30-2007, 04:28 PM
Whats common practice

It is when you get "lucky". :)

BZ

rdhstlr23
07-30-2007, 04:57 PM
NE Between 9-7 and 13-3
Jets Between 7-9 and 11-5
Phins Between 6-10 and 10-6
Bills Between 6-10 and 10-6

trying to prognosticate any closer than that isnt realistic.

That's really good Zeke and almost my thinking too. However, I actually think the Bills "ceiling for potential is much lower than ours" I look at the Bills as not much more than 8-8, maybe 1-2 games better than 6-10. I just believe that losing that much leadership on your team---especially on defense will hurt. Not to mention they didn't fill it with as good of talent that left. Pozluszny (I know I mispelled it) will help, but he might not be that great this year. Although, LB is usually one of the easier positions to come in and help right away---A.J. Hawk, DeMeco Ryans, Vilma, Crowder, etc.

Pats Between 10-6 and 12-4---I don't think any team will be 13-3 or better this year.
Fins Between 6-10 and 9-7---depending on the offense and the defense maintaining
Jets Between 7-9 and 10-6---depending on the health of Pennington and the improved play of the defense
Bills Between 6-10 and 8-8---if the Defense can get better throughout the year and the offense keep improving

FiveStar
07-30-2007, 05:23 PM
1. NE
2. Miami
3. Buffalo
4. Jets
Jets last? They upgraded at RB why do u think they went from 2nd last season to 4th this season?

Brassmonki14120
07-30-2007, 05:47 PM
:sidelol: Oh man...These posts are funnier than your Avatar. Here, Ill help you out a bit.

10- 6 sounds much more realistic

I just don't see the Phins winning 10 or even half that number with what they have to work with.

You can talk about your Defense all day and still wont help your Offense produce wins.

Set aside the fact that the offensive weapons are having a crummy camp and just focus on the O-Line. It's terrible. Green will be running for his life just like Miami passers did all last year. The only plus for Green is that you guys signed Cory Schlesinger @ Fullback. The continuity of the O-Line is lacking, its depth is horrible. There is no reason to believe it will be better than last years line.

You can't win if you can't get into the endzone and the only way Miami's offense will get anywhere near the endzone is if the Defense or Special teams puts them there.

NativeFloridian
07-30-2007, 07:38 PM
i really dont know i hope we can do well but allt eh ratings and rankings in magazenes and sites say we are one of the worst teams and are for sure worst in the AFC east

Jets81
07-30-2007, 07:55 PM
i really dont know i hope we can do well but allt eh ratings and rankings in magazenes and sites say we are one of the worst teams and are for sure worst in the AFC east

Piss on those rankings. Just remember how last year the Jets were picked to finish dead last in the NFL and the Phins were Super Bowl bound. Decide for yourself. :beer1:

BleedinGreenNC
07-30-2007, 08:14 PM
Until we prove otherwise, this is how I see it.

NE
NYJ
MIA
BUF

Until Miami can add a good offense, we will remain in that order IMO.

Careful FTP, your being too realistic!!

Very well put though.

macblastr
07-31-2007, 12:59 AM
N.E. 13-3
Jets 10-6
Buffalo 8-8
Miami 4-12

thats how i see it too. I really believe it is all on ronnie browns shoulders this year. we have an aging QB but i believe he can get it done.

you all bashing the jets... you all underestimated them last year. DONT make the same mistake again. I won alot of $$$ on the jets.

i dunno about 8-8 for buffalo though. miami and buffalo fight it out for last place. miamis defence still will be the bright spot. top 3 IMHO.

i am a dophins fan, weather we suck or not.

Zeke0123
07-31-2007, 01:31 AM
I just don't see the Phins winning 10 or even half that number with what they have to work with.

You can talk about your Defense all day and still wont help your Offense produce wins.

Set aside the fact that the offensive weapons are having a crummy camp and just focus on the O-Line. It's terrible. Green will be running for his life just like Miami passers did all last year. The only plus for Green is that you guys signed Cory Schlesinger @ Fullback. The continuity of the O-Line is lacking, its depth is horrible. There is no reason to believe it will be better than last years line.

You can't win if you can't get into the endzone and the only way Miami's offense will get anywhere near the endzone is if the Defense or Special teams puts them there.
You need to take another look at the numbers...the O-line was middle of the pack at the end of the year even AFTER Daunte inflated the sack numbers...and the O has had 4 practices total.. the offensive weapons "crummieness" is a bit premature.. calling the Fins a 5 win team sounds like a rivals wishful thinking to me. It should be interesting to see how the O-line comes together but a good O coordinator can hide some of those faults and Anvilhead will help in the power running game no doubt.

Brassmonki14120
07-31-2007, 02:39 AM
You need to take another look at the numbers...the O-line was middle of the pack at the end of the year even AFTER Daunte inflated the sack numbers...and the O has had 4 practices total.. the offensive weapons "crummieness" is a bit premature.. calling the Fins a 5 win team sounds like a rivals wishful thinking to me. It should be interesting to see how the O-line comes together but a good O coordinator can hide some of those faults and Anvilhead will help in the power running game no doubt.

Wishful would be for you guys to make Mularkey OC again. Naw I thought I was being realistic. Look at your schedule and let me know where you think the wins are coming from.

nyjunc
07-31-2007, 04:59 AM
The jets as a blueprint is one i do not want to follow. The Jets get lucky every year against us. Lucky. And as the season goes on......thats what it ends up being. Lucky.

I would rather follow NE's blueprint with finding a QB who is as good as Brady, then we can talk superbowl, but Pennington is a fairyman.

14-4 in the last 18 games is luck?

Good luck finding a QB as good as Brady, those guys don't grow on trees and come along once a generation. You used to have one of those guys and you have seen how hard it is to replace him.


The one thing about the Jets though is that due to whatever unexplainable cosmic formula, in the last two decades they have never really been able to put two quality seasons together back-to-back.

Except for '01 and '02.

it is true we have been hit hard w/ injuries the years following playoff seasons(outside of '02), hopefully that trend ends this year.


I may seem like an optimist here but, with consistent QB play, and with the D we have, I see us winning 10 games this year...Looking at the Schedule, heres how I see it

New England 11-5,.... 1-1 vs Miami
Miami 10-6
Jets 8-8,..... 1-1 vs Miami
Bills 4-12,.... 2-0 vs Miami



You think Miami will go 2-4 in the division and 8-2 outside the division?

DearbornDolfan
07-31-2007, 06:20 AM
@ Wash- Loss

I know a Wash fan and he admits the Dolphins D is going to be tough to deal with. In fact, the only reason he thinks Washington could win is because they have home field advantage.


Dallas- LossYou're kidding, right? I can't remember the last time the Fins lost to the 'Boys, but it's been a while.


@ Jets- LossProbably.


Oak- WinIf Oakland wins a game this year, I'll be shocked.


@ Houston- LossStrangely, I agree with you. For whatever reason the Fins just can't beat Houston. I've been calling this loss since the schedule was released.


@ Cle- Win

I think we can both agree on this one. Specifically, I hope Quinn's girlfriend has her wish granted. I still get a laugh every time I imagine Brady's reaction to that statement.


NE- LossDolphins Stadium is Patsie kryptonite. Even Pats fans acknowledge that.


Giants- LossRather doubt it. For whatever reason it seems like the Giants aren't as fired up about this game as the Fins are.


Buf- LossMaybe. I think we go 3-3 against the division this year.


@ Philly- LossAs much as I hate to admit it, quite possibly.


@ Pitt- LossNo. I'm predicting a bit helping of revenge served chilled.


Jets- LossNot at home.


@ Buf- LossLikely.


Balt- LossToss-up. This will be a battle of the D.


@ NE- LossLikely.


Cincy- LossI honestly don't know. The Bengals haven't played the Fins in a long time. Unless Cincy really needs to win this game, I think they'll play their second or third team, which means a Fins win.


Division: 3-3
Best against extra-divisional opponents: 8-2
Worst against extra-divisional opponents: 4-5

Total Range: 10-6 (best) and 7-9 (worst)

BwanaZulia
07-31-2007, 08:02 AM
I haven't posted my official predictions yet, but I think it is looking like this:

Pats: 11-5 - Just too many weapons
Jets: 10-6 - Improved from last year, but harder schedule
Phins: 8-8 - Green shows moments of greatness but defense takes a hit
Bills: 7-9 - JP proves he isn't the answer and might be the problem. Too many holes.

BZ

DearbornDolfan
07-31-2007, 11:56 AM
Phins: 8-8 - Green shows moments of greatness but defense takes a hit

Out of sheer curiosity, what makes you think the Fins D is actually going to decline? I mean, people keep saying this every year and the D just keeps getting better. Personally I think the Fins' D is due for a #1 overall.

Jetsfan0099
07-31-2007, 12:14 PM
Will see when the season starts, I went to Jets training camp and they look ten times better than last year. The whole team is in shape and is a lot faster. Vilma finaly gets the 3-4 and is up for a big year, our CBs are playing better also with David Barrett healthy this year, and Miller playing better. D'Brickashaw Ferguson gained some weight this offseason and worked with Lomas Brown the whole offseason and training camp. Nick Mangold looks even more dominate, we have a good LG in Adrien Clarke who will suprise you guys, hes big and strong at 6-5 330 and is playing very well right now with the starters. We have a much bigger and bettter defensive line this year, Kenyon Coleman, Michael Haynes are battleing for the other DE spot along Ellis. Haynes is going to suprise people, I saw him and hes perfect for a 3-4. Dewayne Robertson and Pouha are our NTs, Pouha was up for a big year last year but got injured, hes healthy and is up for a big year this year, Robertson is in great shape and even better then last year, our defense will be nasty and wont give up a lot of points. Our offense looks great also, our line will be fine baring injuries, with improved play from Ferguson and Moore. Our WRs are sick, Coles, Cotchery, McCariens, Stuckey, Stuckey looks like a gem in the 7th round, he doesnt drop anything and has speed. McCariens had a great offseason and is focused on being our slot WR this year, Coles said hes in the best shape of his career this year, and Cotchery is in better shape too. Chad Pennington arm is 100% and he is throwing the ball 50 yards and completing it. I saw him throw the ball and he is throwing with more velocity and accuracy and zip then I seen from him ever. He knows the offense and is really on right now, completing everything. If he stays healthy expect a 20+ TD season from him, Thomas Jones shows that he is the right fit for our offense, he is running the ball very well and catching it too. He has nice cuts and shows good vision. Washington is back and looks good too. You Dolphins can say how lucky the Jets are but the fact is Luck has nothing to do with it. We have bad luck if anything with injuries and ****, but this is a knew generation hopefully with Mangini. You can pretend to yourselves that your team is the 2nd best team in the divison and the Jets suck, but will see, because my Jets dont talk they walk unlike your team.

Jets81
07-31-2007, 12:24 PM
Will see when the season starts, I went to Jets training camp and they look ten times better than last year. The whole team is in shape and is a lot faster. Vilma finaly gets the 3-4 and is up for a big year, our CBs are playing better also with David Barrett healthy this year, and Miller playing better.

D'Brickashaw Ferguson gained some weight this offseason and worked with Lomas Brown the whole offseason and training camp. Nick Mangold looks even more dominate, we have a good LG in Adrien Clarke who will suprise you guys, hes big and strong at 6-5 330 and is playing very well right now with the starters.

We have a much bigger and better defensive line this year, Kenyon Coleman, Michael Haynes are battling for the other DE spot along Ellis. Haynes is going to surprise people, I saw him and hes perfect for a 3-4. Dewayne Robertson and Pouha are our NTs, Pouha was up for a big year last year but got injured, hes healthy and is up for a big year this year, Robertson is in great shape and even better then last year, our defense will be nasty and wont give up a lot of points.

Our offense looks great also, our line will be fine baring injuries, with improved play from Ferguson and Moore. Our WRs are sick, Coles, Cotchery, McCariens, Stuckey, Stuckey looks like a gem in the 7th round, he doesnt drop anything and has speed. McCariens had a great offseason and is focused on being our slot WR this year, Coles said hes in the best shape of his career this year, and Cotchery is in better shape too.

Chad Pennington arm is 100% and he is throwing the ball 50 yards and completing it. I saw him throw the ball and he is throwing with more velocity and accuracy and zip then I seen from him ever. He knows the offense and is really on right now, completing everything. If he stays healthy expect a 20+ TD season from him.

Thomas Jones shows that he is the right fit for our offense, he is running the ball very well and catching it too. He has nice cuts and shows good vision. Washington is back and looks good too.

You Dolphins can say how lucky the Jets are but the fact is Luck has nothing to do with it. We have bad luck if anything with injuries and ****, but this is a knew generation hopefully with Mangini. You can pretend to yourselves that your team is the 2nd best team in the division and the Jets suck, but will see, because my Jets don't talk they walk unlike your team.

Fixed that for ya. :D

BleedinGreenNC
07-31-2007, 01:24 PM
I cant believe football is right around the corner.

BuffaloSoldier2
08-01-2007, 07:11 PM
I haven't posted my official predictions yet, but I think it is looking like this:

Pats: 11-5 - Just too many weapons
Jets: 10-6 - Improved from last year, but harder schedule
Phins: 8-8 - Green shows moments of greatness but defense takes a hit
Bills: 7-9 - JP proves he isn't the answer and might be the problem. Too many holes.

BZ

Predictions are dumb but:

Pats: 12-4 - They were awesome anyways and will remain so til proven different.

Bills: 9-7. Keep hating. Better oline = better JP. Lynch is a better all around back than Willis. Second year in offensive and defensive units. Best ST in football.

Jets: 8-8. Worst playoff team ever. But the Jones move was a good one. I do have a lot of respect for Chadwick, but load the boc and force him to beat you deep. Good ST, suspect defense.

Fins: 5-11. Harrington wasn't the whole problem, the oline was and it wasn't really addressed. Very good defense, but 3 and outs will wear you out. I will say Ronnie Brown and Chambers will have fairly big years.

GreenMachine
08-01-2007, 07:35 PM
Predictions are dumb but:


Jets: 8-8. Worst playoff team ever. But the Jones move was a good one. I do have a lot of respect for Chadwick, but load the boc and force him to beat you deep. Good ST, suspect defense.


Worst PO team ever?

WOW!

You are right about the dumb thing.

Jets81
08-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Predictions are dumb but:


Jets: 8-8. Worst playoff team ever.

I don't know about that. I seem to remember a Colts team getting into the playoffs and get dismantled 41-0 in the first round. I think you could make a case that they were a much worse playoff team that year then the Jets this past. I know you weren't using any actual logic when you made that statement though, so it's cool.

Jetsfan0099
08-01-2007, 08:23 PM
Predictions are dumb but:

Pats: 12-4 - They were awesome anyways and will remain so til proven different.

Bills: 9-7. Keep hating. Better oline = better JP. Lynch is a better all around back than Willis. Second year in offensive and defensive units. Best ST in football.

Jets: 8-8. Worst playoff team ever. But the Jones move was a good one. I do have a lot of respect for Chadwick, but load the boc and force him to beat you deep. Good ST, suspect defense.

Fins: 5-11. Harrington wasn't the whole problem, the oline was and it wasn't really addressed. Very good defense, but 3 and outs will wear you out. I will say Ronnie Brown and Chambers will have fairly big years.

This post seems to be written by a very smart knowlegable fan.... Now to be realistic, the Bills will have a decent offense, not anything to brag about but it should be alright. Your offensive line is overrated, Walker stinks, Dockery is overrated, he is decent but not 50 million worth. The Bills defense will stink, the d-line is weak, no good DTs, only 1 good pass rusher, unexperienced LBs, bad CBs, decent safetys. The Jets defense will be better than the Bills, Jets are in the 2nd year of the system, added more players to fit the 3-4 defense, bigger d-line equals better defense. David Harris is going to be a better pro than Paul Poluzney, Darrelle Revis when ever he shows up in camp one day will be a shut down CB in his career. Kerry Rhodes is way better than both your safetys, we have better CBs than you, better LBs too. Jets defense will be ranked higher. Vilma is more talented than any player on your defense. Our offense is in year 2 of the system, we have a vet QB that is finaly coming into the season healthy and his arm is as strong as ever. I been at Training camp and he was throwing the ball 50 yards perfectly. His accuracy and velocity and zip has been better. Our WRs are better than yours, we have way more depth there. Our RB is better than yours, plus we have a talented 2nd back. Our center will be the best in the league in a few years already a top 5 center. Only a 2nd year player too, our LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson is up for a big year, he gained weight with muscle he was under 290 at the end of last year and now he weighs around 305 but he is bigger with muscle. We brought in Lomas Brown to work with him to get him better, Brick has gotten better at Run blocking and against bull rushers. He is one of the most talented offensive linemen in the league. Face it Bills fan the Jets are a better team baring injuries. The Dolphins are better than you guys.

Zeke0123
08-01-2007, 08:43 PM
Predictions are dumb but:

Pats: 12-4 - They were awesome anyways and will remain so til proven different.

Bills: 9-7. Keep hating. Better oline = better JP. Lynch is a better all around back than Willis. Second year in offensive and defensive units. Best ST in football.

Jets: 8-8. Worst playoff team ever. But the Jones move was a good one. I do have a lot of respect for Chadwick, but load the boc and force him to beat you deep. Good ST, suspect defense.

Fins: 5-11. Harrington wasn't the whole problem, the oline was and it wasn't really addressed. Very good defense, but 3 and outs will wear you out. I will say Ronnie Brown and Chambers will have fairly big years.No way the Bills are ahead of the Jets....Miami and Buffalo are behind them (until the season starts) the jets where better last year and made decent moves this off season..The Bill lost as much on D as they Gained on O so to me their offseason is a wash.. Miami is installing a new O and trying to put together an O-line for the 4th straight year..to many questions for both squads to try and claim superiority before they start playing them for real.

Bills Own You!
08-01-2007, 11:58 PM
I think the fish will get swept again by the Bills and Jets because of the ownage, and split against the pats.

So basically 1 - 5 in the afc east like last year.

As for the division itself I think it will look like this:

Pats 14 - 2
Bills 11 - 5 *wildcard*
Jets 7 - 9
Fish 3 - 13

Zeke0123
08-02-2007, 12:41 AM
I think the fish will get swept again by the Bills and Jets because of the ownage, and split against the pats.

So basically 1 - 5 in the afc east like last year.

As for the division itself I think it will look like this:

Pats 14 - 2
Bills 11 - 5 *wildcard*
Jets 7 - 9
Fish 3 - 13Just remember 0 for the Decade bro if you want to talk about "ownage".. this bump in the road gets flattened this year.

BuffaloSoldier2
01-16-2008, 08:47 PM
Glad to have finheaven back. :bighug:

Crisis
01-16-2008, 10:56 PM
Thread is LOL worthy.

Thanks guys.

Vertical Limit
01-17-2008, 11:34 AM
lol

BwanaZulia
01-18-2008, 04:57 PM
Thread is LOL worthy.

Thanks guys.

And you wonder why FH was down for 3 months! :)

BZ

BleedinGreenNC
01-21-2008, 10:42 AM
The FH is back!!:woot:

muscle979
01-21-2008, 10:45 AM
When I saw the first post say that Miami has fared fairly well against Division rivals the past couple of years I couldn't read any further. They have been horrible against division rivals. They are dead last until they finally start beating somebody.

HiOctaneBills
01-28-2008, 03:19 AM
This thread is "Awesome"

Neubs24
01-28-2008, 07:00 PM
Smack talk is not permitted anywhere on Finheaven.