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zach8111
01-24-2008, 12:06 AM
since alot of people have been fascinated with use trading down with dallas, i figured i'd give it a shot and see what we could get in the draft.

We trade Dallas our #1 overall Pick (so they can take McFadden) for their #22 and #28 overall picks in the first round and #60 in the second. Maybe even a player to make the value more even like Carpenter (i hear he was on the block or a pick next year or late pick this year). that would give us. 2 firsts and 3 seconds (including back to back picks. Sweet). There is ALOT of Good Talent around these picks. now we could take...
#22 possibilities...jeff Otah Ot Pitt/ Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
#28 Possibilities...Pat Sims DT Auburn/ James Hardy WR Ind./ Antoine Cason CB Ariz.
#32 Possibilities...Frank Okam DT Texas/James Hardy WR Ind.
#59 possibilities...Chris Ellis DE VT
#60 Possibilities...Martellus Bennett TE Tex A&M
#65 Beau Bell MLB UNLV

here would be our best...
1st#22..Jeff Otah OT Pitt. 6-6 340: Big LT (BP kind of guy)
1st#28..James Hardy WR Indiana. 6-7 220. 4.53 (40)
2nd#32..Frank Okam DT Texas. 6-5 320. Can Play NT for 3-4
2nd#59..Jack Ikegwuonu CB Wisconson. 6-1 201 4.38 (40) OR Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee State. 6-2 182 4.37(40)
2nd#60..Martellus Bennett TE Texas A&M. 6-7 253 4.72 (40)
3rd#65..Beau Bell MLB UNLV. 6-3 245 4.57 (40)
4th#97.. Kevin O'Connell QB San Diego State 6-6 235 4.49 (40) (might be a reach but we don't have a 5th rounder)
6th#161.Corey Lynch FS Appalachian State 6-0 205 4.57 (40) Great Special Teams guy. 24 career Picks and 6 blocked FG's.
Vertical: 34.5; Broad Jump: 10.5; Bench press: 15x225 lbs.
7th#193. i dont see any stand outs but i guess BPA or if someone falls.

Possibilities:
4th round: Kendall Langford DE Hampton 6-6. Weight: 294 4.92 (40).
4th round: Jordy Nelson WR Kansas ST. 6-3 217 4.60 (40)
5th round: Andrew Bain OG Miami 6-3 330 (massive guard who can help any run game)
6th round: Jason Rivers WR Hawaii 6-2 186 4.50(40)

#1dolphinsfan
01-24-2008, 12:39 AM
first round for James Hardy i think that would be to early to take him in the draft and we took a WR last year in the First i dont know if i completely agree with taking him in the First i think that would be a reach

zach8111
01-24-2008, 12:49 AM
first round for James Hardy i think that would be to early to take him in the draft and we took a WR last year in the First i dont know if i completely agree with taking him in the First i think that would be a reach
true we did take 1 last year BUT he isnt a #1 Wr. we have no WR's after him on the depth chart. James Hardy is rising quick. hardy and ginn would be awesome. and remember Our staff that we haev right now DIDNT take a WR that year. they are gonna want there own guys. if this draft happened our team would be above average. id love this draft.

1Hawdolfin4L
01-24-2008, 01:45 AM
zach8111 : Did you see this ???

http://footballjabber.com/nfl-mock-draft-wtrades/

Football Jabber 1/23 has the Dolphins trading down 3 times, and in the process we end up having a 1st round pick and 6 2nd's.

That would be awesome.

Majpain
01-24-2008, 01:58 AM
Don't like some of the picks. Especially number 32.

Jed
01-24-2008, 02:02 AM
zach8111 : Did you see this ???

http://footballjabber.com/nfl-mock-draft-wtrades/

Football Jabber 1/23 has the Dolphins trading down 3 times, and in the process we end up having a 1st round pick and 6 2nd's.

That would be awesome.

This really is an interesting mock. Not only do the Dolphins trade down 3 times, but Early Doucet is picked twice, at #28 and #30.:err:

zach8111
01-24-2008, 02:03 AM
Don't like some of the picks. Especially number 32.

frant okam is the highest ranked guy that is big enough to play NT in a 3-4.
i also liked red bryant but he would be gone by our next pick. the other DT are too small to play NT. who would you have taken

MexDolfan
01-24-2008, 02:24 AM
zach8111 : Did you see this ???

http://footballjabber.com/nfl-mock-draft-wtrades/

Football Jabber 1/23 has the Dolphins trading down 3 times, and in the process we end up having a 1st round pick and 6 2nd's.

That would be awesome.

That would fix almost every possible hole in our team. But i see it as far as the day a man walking on Jupiter's moons.
:boohoo:

ih8brady
01-24-2008, 02:37 AM
This really is an interesting mock. Not only do the Dolphins trade down 3 times, but Early Doucet is picked twice, at #28 and #30.:err:



:sidelol: Look out Mel Kipper, the Football Jabber knows its stuff. It can even create doppelgangers of players.

ih8brady
01-24-2008, 02:41 AM
since alot of people have been fascinated with use trading down with dallas, i figured i'd give it a shot and see what we could get in the draft.

We trade Dallas our #1 overall Pick (so they can take McFadden) for their #22 and #28 overall picks in the first round and #60 in the second. Maybe even a player to make the value more even like Carpenter (i hear he was on the block or a pick next year or late pick this year). that would give us. 2 firsts and 3 seconds (including back to back picks. Sweet). There is ALOT of Good Talent around these picks. now we could take...
#22 possibilities...jeff Otah Ot Pitt/ Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
#28 Possibilities...Pat Sims DT Auburn/ James Hardy WR Ind./ Antoine Cason CB Ariz.
#32 Possibilities...Frank Okam DT Texas/James Hardy WR Ind.
#59 possibilities...Chris Ellis DE VT
#60 Possibilities...Martellus Bennett TE Tex A&M
#65 Beau Bell MLB UNLV

here would be our best...
1st#22..Jeff Otah OT Pitt. 6-6 340: Big LT (BP kind of guy)
1st#28..James Hardy WR Indiana. 6-7 220. 4.53 (40)
2nd#32..Frank Okam DT Texas. 6-5 320. Can Play NT for 3-4
2nd#59..Jack Ikegwuonu CB Wisconson. 6-1 201 4.38 (40) OR Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee State. 6-2 182 4.37(40)
2nd#60..Martellus Bennett TE Texas A&M. 6-7 253 4.72 (40)
3rd#65..Beau Bell MLB UNLV. 6-3 245 4.57 (40)
4th#97.. Kevin O'Connell QB San Diego State 6-6 235 4.49 (40) (might be a reach but we don't have a 5th rounder)
6th#161.Corey Lynch FS Appalachian State 6-0 205 4.57 (40) Great Special Teams guy. 24 career Picks and 6 blocked FG's.
Vertical: 34.5; Broad Jump: 10.5; Bench press: 15x225 lbs.
7th#193. i dont see any stand outs but i guess BPA or if someone falls.

Possibilities:
4th round: Kendall Langford DE Hampton 6-6. Weight: 294 4.92 (40).
4th round: Jordy Nelson WR Kansas ST. 6-3 217 4.60 (40)
5th round: Andrew Bain OG Miami 6-3 330 (massive guard who can help any run game)
6th round: Jason Rivers WR Hawaii 6-2 186 4.50(40)


According to the value chart, we're trading 3000 points for 1750 points.
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

zach8111
01-24-2008, 02:44 AM
According to the value chart, we're trading 3000 points for 2350 points.

but not if you add a player like carpenter or a pick next year like i said

ih8brady
01-24-2008, 02:47 AM
but not if you add a player like carpenter
My initial total was off, I accidentally included the 32nd pick(which we already have). You're talking 1250 points( = to the 11th overall pick) we'll lose. And we shouldn't be trading for players like Carpenter. That's how we fell into this rut. (check out my sig)

zach8111
01-24-2008, 02:51 AM
My initial total was off, I accidentally included the 32nd pick(which we already have). You're talking 1250 points( = to the 11th overall pick) we'll lose. And we shouldn't be trading for players like Carpenter. That's how we fell into this rut. (check out my sig)
there is no way we are gonna get complete value for this pick. but we could add a first rounder next year to it. so we would have two first rounders next year

zach8111
01-24-2008, 02:54 AM
My initial total was off, I accidentally included the 32nd pick(which we already have). You're talking 1250 points( = to the 11th overall pick) we'll lose. And we shouldn't be trading for players like Carpenter. That's how we fell into this rut. (check out my sig)
that chart is a bunch of BS. no one is gonna look at that chart when they make the trade. you are saying you wouldnt take 2 first rounders 1 second rounder and a firs next year for the #1 overall just cuz we lose out on a few "value chart points"?

MexDolfan
01-24-2008, 03:24 AM
According to the value chart, we're trading 3000 points for 1750 points.


mmm
I understand that compensation would be a first round in 2009 or a player.

MexDolfan
01-24-2008, 03:26 AM
My initial total was off, I accidentally included the 32nd pick(which we already have). You're talking 1250 points( = to the 11th overall pick) we'll lose. And we shouldn't be trading for players like Carpenter. That's how we fell into this rut. (check out my sig)
As much as i know, even with the punishment on Pats, our pick is #33.:err:

FootballJabber
01-24-2008, 09:06 AM
This really is an interesting mock. Not only do the Dolphins trade down 3 times, but Early Doucet is picked twice, at #28 and #30.:err:My mistake. It happened when I was moving comments from the Mock without trades. I have fixed it with the pick and comments that my Mock guy had given me. Don't hate. ;)

FootballJabber
01-24-2008, 09:11 AM
:sidelol: Look out Mel Kipper, the Football Jabber knows its stuff. It can even create doppelgangers of players.:unsure: Copy and paste issue on my end from the other mock, my mock guy had Manningham going to the Jags. What a way to start the morning.

So without trades, who would you guys like to see at #1, and do you mind if I quote you linking back to your forum here?

ScottishFin
01-24-2008, 03:25 PM
If we make that trade and those picks I will be happy.

The question that needs answered is that will Miami be happy with 2 firsts a second and maybe a first next year ? Considering we are rebuilding and the fact we will not be stuck with paying $35m guaranteed to one player who may blow his knee on day one then I think we pull the trigger and make that trade.

Dors156
01-24-2008, 04:29 PM
I think Cason at 22 and Connor at 28 would be great. I think Hardy could be available at 32 but there is a possibility of his draft stock going way up at the combine.

Ozfin77
01-24-2008, 07:02 PM
zach8111 : Did you see this ???

http://footballjabber.com/nfl-mock-draft-wtrades/

Football Jabber 1/23 has the Dolphins trading down 3 times, and in the process we end up having a 1st round pick and 6 2nd's.

That would be awesome.


Can somebody send this to Ireland and "Tuna" please....

GREAT draft!!

209Mason
01-24-2008, 10:18 PM
I realize this is likely a pipe-dream.... but Holy monkey, if we ended up with like 6 or 7 Day One picks... it would be the most exciting draft in history for a dol-fan to watch!!

trading down a couple times would be fan-freaking-tastic. I can't wait for Draft day.