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I am Bane
02-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Lets say Miami doesnt take Matt Ryan #1..... we probably wil lsnag a QB somewhere down the road.... maybe 2 or 3...... whom would u like to see if we do and why???

Nappy Roots
02-02-2008, 07:50 PM
if Woodson is at 32 i would take him. i think hes the best QB in the draft.

JT#1
02-02-2008, 07:52 PM
Joe Flacco if hes available in the 3rd

I am Bane
02-02-2008, 08:14 PM
i been watching film on Flacco and at first wasn't sold on him. but he throws so smooth, he does have a great arm... but needs work on his dropback, footwork and throwing on the run. he also tends to be inconsistant in the intermediate game, throwing behind WR's (might be timing issue not sure)... but he was pretty fluent. he didnt seem as slow footed as some mentioned. i kinda like him more than Henne.

JT#1
02-02-2008, 08:22 PM
i think he is a project but if he can be molded , he has all the tools to be a very good quarterback

mxkawi1
02-02-2008, 08:30 PM
hopefully none. But if we do, it should be 5th rnd. or later.

We don't need to waste a draft pick on a position that we already have. Especially when we have so many other holes to fill. Like DL, LB, DB, OL, TE, WR, to name a few.

I am Bane
02-02-2008, 08:32 PM
i kind of curious why he did transfer though from pitt to delaware to play competition that not as good and all. why didnt he stick it out in pitt and battle for the spot?

a QB i wonder on too is Dennis Dixon from Oregon. that kid can obviously run, but he is a pretty good passer too, puts it in the strike zone, has a great arm, is good sized and can create plays. he just doesnt read well, stares down a lot, and throws off his back foot often. still was a very accurate passer though. this kid which i love is a great role-model, a great person, and seems to be a great leader and hopefully good work ethic!!! he's definitely mroe a work in progress but i like him.

mxkawi1
02-02-2008, 08:41 PM
i kind of curious why he did transfer though from pitt to delaware to play competition that not as good and all. why didnt he stick it out in pitt and battle for the spot?

a QB i wonder on too is Dennis Dixon from Oregon. that kid can obviously run, but he is a pretty good passer too, puts it in the strike zone, has a great arm, is good sized and can create plays. he just doesnt read well, stares down a lot, and throws off his back foot often. still was a very accurate passer though. this kid which i love is a great role-model, a great person, and seems to be a great leader and hopefully good work ethic!!! he's definitely mroe a work in progress but i like him.
I think he is interesting, because had he not got hurt they probably would have been in the Championship game. And he probably would have won the Heisman. He would have been a 2nd rounder and now he is like a 4-5 rounder.

unifiedtheory
02-02-2008, 10:31 PM
Joe Flacco if hes available in the 3rd

He won't last past the first round. His stock is going through the roof, it is a lot like Jay Cutler 2 years ago.

burghPhinFan
02-02-2008, 11:26 PM
here's a link posted over in the Phins forum:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2008/02/02/dolphins_interested_in_qb_joe.html?cxntfid=blogs_inside_the_dolphins

I am Bane
02-02-2008, 11:43 PM
yeah flacco will probably be picked up on the first day by someone... not sure where dixon will be though.

miami might need to snag flacco in the second, if they looking for a QB to go with Beck.

i think we should get one also in the draft cause you can develop two guys, who can work together, learn together, and challenge eachother throughout. nothing better than two guys working hard to beat eachother out then one guy with not much pushing him. Beck will get his chance... but do you really want to only bank on him for the upcoming years? or do u want to have a safe second option?

FINOMINAL
02-02-2008, 11:57 PM
I say don’t draft a QB at all. Every undrafted and others will be looking for opportunities, and I see Miami looking like an opportunity. They will come to us. Guys like Kevin O'Connell, Brad Roach, Casey Hansen and probably Anthony Morelli will all be looking to get into a camp. Beck is our project rookie/future. Anybody can try to come in and win a NFL job here. I hope for our sake that none can beat out Beck.

2413fanphins
02-03-2008, 12:10 AM
I'm leaning towards henne, with flacco right behind him.

I think flacco is more of a project, and would need some serious coaching to correct some flaws in his game. Henne could come in a bit sooner. I really think someone is going to take a serious reach at flacco, way too early.

Henne, I saw some good things from his four years of work at michigan. He just might be the guy in the late second or our 3rd rounder.

flynn should last until the later rounds, he's a guy we may be able to snag up late.
I don't really want to take a qb on day one, but I guess if thats what parcells thinks is best than so be it.

I am Bane
02-03-2008, 12:14 AM
finominal.... so you'd rather wait for undrafted people to come to us. so we can get the fiedlers, feelys, lemons, lucas's to come try out for us and take us nowhere. you gotta draft a prospect at QB, one thats gonna get the job done hopefully. yes you get busts when u do that sometimes... but thats how it works. u dont find Tom Bradys that often like he came about.

I am Bane
02-03-2008, 12:17 AM
i wish i knew what parcells is thinking... also matters how the draft unfolds... might have henne and flacco and others into the deep third round, day two would be perfect!!!

2413fanphins
02-03-2008, 12:19 AM
speaking of lemon, what the hell are we going to do with him?

I think I remember parcells calling him the other guy, so it can't be good for lemon.

is he gone? (hopefully)

mxkawi1
02-03-2008, 12:25 AM
speaking of lemon, what the hell are we going to do with him?

I think I remember parcells calling him the other guy, so it can't be good for lemon.

is he gone? (hopefully)
most likely

I am Bane
02-03-2008, 12:45 AM
yeah i heard parcells isnt gonna sign lemon, so he probably packing right now.

djphinfan
02-03-2008, 04:21 AM
This thread is dissrespectful to my man John Beck

#1dolphinsfan
02-03-2008, 04:27 AM
if Woodson is at 32 i would take him. i think hes the best QB in the draft.
I agree with u i would take him in a Heart beat he just needs to get rid of the ball faster

#1dolphinsfan
02-03-2008, 04:29 AM
He won't last past the first round. His stock is going through the roof, it is a lot like Jay Cutler 2 years ago.
i dont see himgoing in the First round but maybe the Mid to late Second i see Matt Ryan, Brian Brohm, Andre' woodson, and Chad Henne going befoe he does

sceeto
02-03-2008, 08:08 AM
I'm leaning towards henne, with flacco right behind him.

I think flacco is more of a project, and would need some serious coaching to correct some flaws in his game. Henne could come in a bit sooner. I really think someone is going to take a serious reach at flacco, way too early.

Henne, I saw some good things from his four years of work at michigan. He just might be the guy in the late second or our 3rd rounder.

flynn should last until the later rounds, he's a guy we may be able to snag up late.
I don't really want to take a qb on day one, but I guess if thats what parcells thinks is best than so be it.
I agree about Henne. Even though he might not have the greatest stats in the world, not bad though, I always thought he would make a good pro.

Touchnit187
02-03-2008, 08:36 AM
I like Joe Flacco in the 3rd or 4th rd if he's still there LOL

finfan66
02-03-2008, 09:24 AM
hopefully none. But if we do, it should be 5th rnd. or later.

We don't need to waste a draft pick on a position that we already have. Especially when we have so many other holes to fill. Like DL, LB, DB, OL, TE, WR, to name a few.

A position we already have? You are kidding right? We have nobody right now that can win us a game and you say that you want to wait until the 5th round to pick the player we most need? Beck sucks and so does Lemon. Green can take his 7 interceptions back to KC.

NorthFloridaFin
02-03-2008, 09:52 AM
If Andre Woodson is there at #32, we need to get him. He seems to me like he is probably the smartest QB in the draft. He is more of a leader than the other QB's this year.

39wildman
02-03-2008, 10:08 AM
henne, flacco, dixion and ainge will be around in 3rd and 4th rd of draft

2413fanphins
02-03-2008, 10:19 AM
according to the palmbeach post site, we may be looking at flacco in the 2nd.

I knew his stock was soaring, but damn it must really be skyrocketing.

I knew we interviewed him at senior bowl week and came away impressed, and that fact that he apparently domintated the skills competition the other day can only help.

74 and 71 were his long throws, he got first in the scramble drill, and third in the accuracy drill.

6'6 232...... great size.

finfan54
02-03-2008, 12:19 PM
i been watching film on Flacco and at first wasn't sold on him. but he throws so smooth, he does have a great arm... but needs work on his dropback, footwork and throwing on the run. he also tends to be inconsistant in the intermediate game, throwing behind WR's (might be timing issue not sure)... but he was pretty fluent. he didnt seem as slow footed as some mentioned. i kinda like him more than Henne.


Sounds like tom Brady doesnt it? they question the same things about him, even when he was a backup in NE. He throws much like Brady IMO. he has this snap of the football off the fingertips that is misleading as to where the ball may go but ends up right where it needs to be. I like this Flacco kid.

I am Bane
02-03-2008, 12:52 PM
i like the flacco kid too, but i also do believe he is late second round most likely... so gotta be willing to snag him there.

as to Henne, he doesnt impress me. he has a good arm but absolutly no mobility and all threw his career can not handle pressure at all. anytime there was pressure he would put out poor throws or make horrible decissions. NFL blitzes a lot, he has tons to work on with that. i dont think he could handle the game speed in the NFL to well.

Do not disrespect Beck either. it was his first year, with no WR's.... allow him to have his chance. he will have his chance, so while he is... then we can decide on him as a yes or no.... mor now its a maybe so.

#1dolphinsfan
02-03-2008, 01:36 PM
henne, flacco, dixion and ainge will be around in 3rd and 4th rd of draft
i dont think Dixon will get Drafted tell like the 6th round

I am Bane
02-03-2008, 01:43 PM
ooooooh bringing Dixon back into the convo..... i like this kid, more of a project though, but yeah i dont think he going till late rounds. possability???

i spoke my thoughts on him before i nthe threads

2413fanphins
02-03-2008, 01:56 PM
I don't see dixon as being much of a qb in the pros. I could be wrong, but I think he's one of the eric crouchs, good in college, not really cut out for the pros.

he has some tools, but damn he just reminds me so much of a nebraska qb who runs better than he throws. He throws a terrible deep ball, playing in the spread doesn't help his chances of success at the next level either.
all my opinions of course, and I am no expert so who knows.

of course he could always be more like vick than crouch.
certainly not a 5th round or higher pick.

6-7 for sure.

and I still don't think he plays qb in the pros.

slot or something perhaps.

I am Bane
02-03-2008, 02:05 PM
yeah what hurts is the spread and shotgun formation (like Flacco though too remember)....

but Dixon throws an accurate ball. he's solid intermediate, he can create with his legs.
negatives i saw is he seems to stare down WR's and throws off back foot often.

Oregon had him run mostly with set plays and telling him to break lose... otherwise he is a throw first QB... in high school varsity, he never had one rushing TD.

i was never big on Crouch at all, thought he stunk... but Dixon already is a better passer than Vick in my mind.

mxkawi1
02-03-2008, 02:58 PM
A position we already have? You are kidding right? We have nobody right now that can win us a game and you say that you want to wait until the 5th round to pick the player we most need? Beck sucks and so does Lemon. Green can take his 7 interceptions back to KC.If Tom Brady was our QB last year, we might have won 3 or 4 games. And he is one of the best ever(so the the experts say). We don't know what we have with Beck, yet. We DO know that he has no time to throw, our TE's can't block or catch, can't stop the run, no pressure on the QB, and all the other problems.

So, what do you do if we draft Ryan #1, and Beck ends up being better than him. You just wasted a pick that we could have used on a position we KNOW we need.

The QB can't do it all.

2413fanphins
02-03-2008, 03:01 PM
If Tom Brady was our QB last year, we might have won 3 or 4 games. And he is one of the best ever(so the the experts say). We don't know what we have with Beck, yet. We DO know that he has no time to throw, our TE's can't block or catch, can't stop the run, no pressure on the QB, and all the other problems.

So, what do you do if we draft Ryan #1, and Beck ends up being better than him. You just wasted a pick that we could have used on a position we KNOW we need.

The QB can't do it all.



marino could.


j/k

damn i miss seeing that guy play.

I am Bane
02-03-2008, 03:02 PM
I like Ryan... but i think i wouldnt like taking him #1

is he a Brady? he is composed, sets his feet, very accurate intermediate game, always down field... makes plays happen without a strong cast around him... decent feet in the pocket avoiding the rush, not great arm strength, but he puts it where he needs to and amkes great reads..... hmmmmmm, any Brady yet?

crap i hate comparing people to guys... wy am i saying brady?

chibully
02-03-2008, 03:46 PM
by the way, anyone see that skills competition yesterday on ESPN? there was a lot of competitions for linebackers and stuff. I only saw the QB scramble (they had to run through barriers and stuff and throw on the run.) All the QB's had good footwork. Joe Flacco won.