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traptses
02-05-2008, 06:45 PM
I have been looking at many mock drafts, and the more recent ones have Chris Long going to Miami. I've watched Chris play a couple times, and haven't seen anything that made me say "I want him on my team". I'm not dissing him or anything, I just would like to know some of the positives on him that I haven't seen in my small amount of time watching him.

CrazyCarl
02-05-2008, 08:01 PM
I have been looking at many mock drafts, and the more recent ones have Chris Long going to Miami. I've watched Chris play a couple times, and haven't seen anything that made me say "I want him on my team". I'm not dissing him or anything, I just would like to know some of the positives on him that I haven't seen in my small amount of time watching him.

Hardworker with a pedigree.. Most likely right up Parcells alley

zach8111
02-05-2008, 09:14 PM
its not the sacks and the tackles that impresses everyone. its his great presence on the line, getting his hands up, putting pressure on the QB, blocking the RB whole in the line. he is everywhere on every play. if zach thomas (always making a play on the ball or ball carrier) was a DE, he'd play just like long.

Conuficus
02-05-2008, 09:41 PM
Think energizer bunny with an attitude. He hustles evrywhere, and I mean everywhere. he shoots the gap amazingly well. he has the ability to "get small" and break through a double team. he is ver strong and moreimportantly game savvy. He has everything it takes, the only knock on him is how much better can he be? Like A.J. Hawk a few years ago, he won't grow much in the pros; he already is one.

PerfectTeam
02-05-2008, 09:46 PM
I have been looking at many mock drafts, and the more recent ones have Chris Long going to Miami. I've watched Chris play a couple times, and haven't seen anything that made me say "I want him on my team". I'm not dissing him or anything, I just would like to know some of the positives on him that I haven't seen in my small amount of time watching him.

well one of his best traits is his motor. the guy is absolutely relentless. powerful initial punch, great technique and was used in a variety of ways at UVA. hard worker, great intangibles, great leader.

I am Bane
02-06-2008, 12:10 AM
non-stop motor all game, reads offense extremely well. has a decent first step, quick hands, explosive. is not that fast, but is great on the run, holding ground, finding the ball quickly. he reads and makes plays in all aspects of the game. stuff he does wont be known in statistical columns quite often... he is a very fundamental player who will contain the o-line allowing the line backers to come in and fill and make tackles.... possibly the best Dline for our 3-4 scheme (better than Dorsey and Ellis would be)

Dorsey i think will get eaten up more and will struggle on the run, struggle with double teams, struggle holding his space, due to him relying more on his speed than using his hands.

PerfectTeam
02-06-2008, 12:26 AM
non-stop motor all game, reads offense extremely well. has a decent first step, quick hands, explosive. is not that fast, but is great on the run, holding ground, finding the ball quickly. he reads and makes plays in all aspects of the game. stuff he does wont be known in statistical columns quite often... he is a very fundamental player who will contain the o-line allowing the line backers to come in and fill and make tackles.... possibly the best Dline for our 3-4 scheme (better than Dorsey and Ellis would be)

Dorsey i think will get eaten up more and will struggle on the run, struggle with double teams, struggle holding his space, due to him relying more on his speed than using his hands.

dorsey took on double and triple teams all season all the while after being viciously cheap shotted so dont get quite where your coming from.

Fullerboy
02-06-2008, 04:29 AM
Dorsey i think will get eaten up more and will struggle on the run, struggle with double teams, struggle holding his space, due to him relying more on his speed than using his hands.[/quote]


Huh? Dont know where you got that bud but that is so untrue!

swampfox
02-06-2008, 09:25 AM
Here are a few reasons

http://www.virginiasportstv.com/index.php?sid=32&v=1467&f=.mov

ticophin
02-06-2008, 11:50 AM
Kinda player Brady is gonna DREAD facing twice, or three times a year...

BlueFin
02-06-2008, 12:05 PM
I've watched a few UVA games, and the purpose was to scout Chris Long, if your old enough to remember Howie Long, he is a clone.

If your not, everybody has described him very well, I would just say he seems to always be where the ball is, he will get to the quarterback and his technique is excellent.

Like Dorsey, the kid has tremendous character and you will get 110% on every play, I see him as a can't miss player like Dorsey.........for that reason, if we remain at #1, I would select one of them.

2413fanphins
02-06-2008, 12:46 PM
everything I have been reading says he needs to bulk if we think he's gonna be a 3-4 DE in the NFL.

any truth to that, once you put on weight, it's almost a given you slow down.

Ghetti13
02-06-2008, 01:12 PM
Chris Long is very good and worthy of a high pick.

I just don't believe he is the top player in this draft.

phinfan33
02-06-2008, 01:17 PM
This on Chris Long.....2007 NOTES:
• Team captain for the second year in a row
• Third in the country in sacks with an average of 1.13/g
• 14 sacks this season which are more than 10 TEAMS (and the same as two other teams)
• Fourth nationally in tackling by a lineman, averaging 6.3 tackles per game
• Tied for 10th in the nation in tackles for loss, averaging 1.58/g
• Tied for sixth in the country among defensive linemen in pass break ups (PBU) with seven
• Tied for fifth in the country among defensive linemen in passes defended (PBU+INTs) with eight
• More than 25 percent of his tackles (.280 to be exact) this season have been for a loss (his career rate is 25 percent

defensivefan
02-06-2008, 02:08 PM
From what I've seen he keeps going for the whole game. But I haven't seen much of the unstoppable/unblockable that I'd look for in No1 pick. Not that I know much....

phinfan33
02-06-2008, 02:21 PM
Chris Long # 91 DE - DE Height: 6-4 Weight: 284 Senior High School/Previous College St. Anne's-Belfield School Hometown Ivy, Va.

phinfan33
02-06-2008, 02:22 PM
More on Chris Long.....2007 AWARDS and HONORS:

• Had his jersey retired prior to his final home game against Virginia Tech on Nov. 24
• First-Team All-America by the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA)
• First-Team All-America Rivals.com
• Atlantic Coast Conference Defensive Player of the Year
• First-Team All-Atlantic Coast Conference
• One of four finalists for the Rotary Lombardi Award as the nation's outstanding lineman
• One of five finalists for the Bronko Nagurski Trophy as the nation's outstanding defensive player
• One of four finalists for the Ronnie Lott Trophy as the outstanding college defensive player of the year who has had the biggest IMPACT on his team both on and off the field
• One of eight finalists for the Ted Hendricks Defensive End of the Year Award
• Semifinalist for the Bednarik Award as the nation's outstanding defensive player
• Finalist for the Dudley Award, given annually to the top player in the state of Virginia sponsored by the Richmond Times-Dispatch
• Mid-Season All-America team selected by CBSSports.com, CollegeFootballNews.com, SportsIllustrated.com, Rivals and Phil Steele’s College Football Preview
• ACC Defensive Lineman of the Week for his play against Maryland (Oct. 20)
• ACC Defensive Lineman of the Week for his play against Wake Forest (Nov. 3)
• Currently listed as the nation's sixth-best player by Rivals (Oct. 23)
• Listed as the No. 2 Defensive Draft Prospect by SI.com (Oct. 31)
• Listed second among the Top Ten Defensive Draft Prospects by SI.com (Oct. 31)
• Preseason All-American
• Preseason All-ACC

blackthought
02-06-2008, 06:10 PM
This on Chris Long.....2007 NOTES:
• Team captain for the second year in a row
• Third in the country in sacks with an average of 1.13/g
• 14 sacks this season which are more than 10 TEAMS (and the same as two other teams)
• Fourth nationally in tackling by a lineman, averaging 6.3 tackles per game
• Tied for 10th in the nation in tackles for loss, averaging 1.58/g
• Tied for sixth in the country among defensive linemen in pass break ups (PBU) with seven
• Tied for fifth in the country among defensive linemen in passes defended (PBU+INTs) with eight
• More than 25 percent of his tackles (.280 to be exact) this season have been for a loss (his career rate is 25 percent


With all that, I just can't get over the fact that Matt Roth and him are so much alike, and well you see what we got in Roth.

2413fanphins
02-06-2008, 06:47 PM
With all that, I just can't get over the fact that Matt Roth and him are so much alike, and well you see what we got in Roth.



I've been dwelling over the same facts.

being from Iowa I watched every game roth played.
he too had a non stop motor and disrupted backfields rather well.
I always thought he was a bit small to be a NFL DE, but that perhaps his heart and drive would help him accell..

THat being said, I believe chris long is phenomenal. better than roth was when roth was in college for sure. #1 overall though, not too sure about that.
Especially if they ask him to bulk up. With the extra pounds he will undoubtedly loose some of the speed. His technique does seem to be top notch though, that goes along way in the trenches.

#1dolphinsfan
02-06-2008, 07:23 PM
Look what the Giants did to Tom Brady If we got Chris Long and have Jason Taylor and Joey Porter we would be great at getting to the QB

2413fanphins
02-06-2008, 08:03 PM
getting chris long, doesn't ensure anything for us against the pats.



we haven't begun comparing chris long to tuck, strahan and umenyiora already have we?

Conuficus
02-06-2008, 09:10 PM
With all that, I just can't get over the fact that Matt Roth and him are so much alike, and well you see what we got in Roth.

If Long's arms are as short as Roth's then you might expect the same. That was one of big concerns about Roth was that he had short arms. He just can't maintain separation well, thus not allowing him to disengage as well as others.

Also to those who say you gain weight you get slower. That is a "gloss over" statement if ever there was one. Not making a distinction between say 5lbs and 18 lbs is just bad. If someone gains 18 lbs then sucha statement might hold some validity, 5 lbs not so much. It really dpends on the individual involved, some can carry more wieght than others. Everyone has a point where the extra weight will make them less effective than before.

I am Bane
02-06-2008, 11:18 PM
Matt Roth doesnt have a dad like Howie Long!!! brewing heart, desire, and actual success!!!!