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postermaster
02-10-2008, 04:41 PM
Adam Schefter from Hawaii just reported on NFL Network that Chris Long would be the most secure option to take within the #1 overall pick, he said that with 35 mil in guaranteed money, you just want to take an impact player and that Chris Long is the most accurate decision.

I wouldn't be bothered if we get him, but I'd rather take Dorsey, trade down for Ghoulston or trade our 1st for Dallas' both firsts, 2nd, next years' second and third, plus take either Barber or Ware from them...

Go Phins!!!

adamprez2003
02-10-2008, 04:42 PM
"accurate"? what does that mean?

SpaceMountain16
02-10-2008, 04:44 PM
"accurate"? what does that mean?

i'm not sure, the meaning for me was lost by watching the last 10 Dolphins starting QB's :(

postermaster
02-10-2008, 04:44 PM
Well, he didn't said the word "accurate", but what he meant is that Long would be the most secure option to take within the 1st.

like2god
02-10-2008, 04:45 PM
I'd be happy with that pick. :)

SpaceMountain16
02-10-2008, 04:47 PM
I think i'd rather go with an offensive player, be it a linemen, or a QB, or even McFadden in that very unlikely event. To me the most SECURE option is trading down, because the clear cut number one guy just isn't there, and this team has plenty of holes that need filling.

X-Pacolypse
02-10-2008, 04:47 PM
Chris Long is fine by me. Either him or Jake Long if we stay at number one.

adamprez2003
02-10-2008, 04:48 PM
i'm not sure, the meaning for me was lost by watching the last 10 Dolphins starting QB's :(:lol::lol:

Whitedolphin54
02-10-2008, 04:56 PM
I have wanted C Long from the beginning. That is of course if we kept the #1 overall pick. I wouldn't mind Dorsey either, but prefer Long.

NJFINSFAN1
02-10-2008, 04:59 PM
Chris Long or Dorsey would be the best option if we stay at # 1.

Dfan06
02-10-2008, 05:07 PM
Chris long all the way, we can get a NT in free agency.

Phinsfan210
02-10-2008, 05:08 PM
Im all for Chris Long, anyone but Matt Ryan please.

DolFan31
02-10-2008, 05:09 PM
I think i'd rather go with an offensive player, be it a linemen, or a QB, or even McFadden in that very unlikely event. To me the most SECURE option is trading down, because the clear cut number one guy just isn't there, and this team has plenty of holes that need filling.

Last I checked other than JT we lacked a playmaker on D.

PhinSoldia
02-10-2008, 05:10 PM
I think i'd rather go with an offensive player, be it a linemen, or a QB, or even McFadden in that very unlikely event. To me the most SECURE option is trading down, because the clear cut number one guy just isn't there, and this team has plenty of holes that need filling.

so if a clear cut number 1 is not there (which i agree) why would anybody trade up to that spot??? Chris Long is right there for the taking we should go for it

insomnia411
02-10-2008, 05:13 PM
Why are we supporting spending the #1 pick in the draft on a 3-4 end? I understand that Chris Long is a play maker but that position in the 3-4 is more about being a space eater and taking on blocks so the linebackers can make plays. That seems like a waste of Long's talent and I don't think he fits this defense because of that.
Can't we FINALLY take a real quarterback?

2413fanphins
02-10-2008, 05:14 PM
If somebody knowledgeable without bias would answer my question as to whether or not C.Long needs to bulk up I would be able to make a more informed decision.

Based on motor alone thats fine, but thats why I liked the matt roth pick, and I am looking like an idiot for that so far.

If he needs to bulk up... how much?

than I have to determine how much speed he will loose, because inevitably, if you have more mass, generally you slow down.

I guess I'm still on the dorsey bandwagon for now, if we stay at the top.

malzj
02-10-2008, 05:17 PM
the best thing is to draft the player that will give us the greatest impact. whether it's 1st, last, trade down or whatever.

VanDolPhan
02-10-2008, 05:23 PM
Why are we supporting spending the #1 pick in the draft on a 3-4 end? I understand that Chris Long is a play maker but that position in the 3-4 is more about being a space eater and taking on blocks so the linebackers can make plays. That seems like a waste of Long's talent and I don't think he fits this defense because of that.
Can't we FINALLY take a real quarterback?

Weak year for QB's at the very top.

Chris Long may also project as a stand up rusher in the 3-4. You'll know which way the top teams are telling him by whether he drops a bit of weight or gains some for the combine.

Madman29
02-10-2008, 05:23 PM
We really can't go wrong with the first pick. Well as long as we don't draft Macfadden or Ryan. In my opinion its between Dorsey, Chris Long, and Jake Long. I have been going through all 3 options for the past couple months and now i really wouldnt mind any of the 3. If we can trade down then im all for it but if at all possible i would like to stay in the top 5.

dooleytr
02-10-2008, 05:29 PM
how sick would it be to have two sweet DE in long and JT

I am Bane
02-10-2008, 06:48 PM
Why are we supporting spending the #1 pick in the draft on a 3-4 end? I understand that Chris Long is a play maker but that position in the 3-4 is more about being a space eater and taking on blocks so the linebackers can make plays. That seems like a waste of Long's talent and I don't think he fits this defense because of that.
Can't we FINALLY take a real quarterback?



who is your REAL QB??? make sure he is the guy, cause its the #1 pick!!!

Motion
02-10-2008, 06:48 PM
Sounds good to me. Been saying the same thing since we locked up the #1 pick.

I am Bane
02-10-2008, 06:50 PM
If somebody knowledgeable without bias would answer my question as to whether or not C.Long needs to bulk up I would be able to make a more informed decision.

Based on motor alone thats fine, but thats why I liked the matt roth pick, and I am looking like an idiot for that so far.

If he needs to bulk up... how much?

than I have to determine how much speed he will loose, because inevitably, if you have more mass, generally you slow down.

I guess I'm still on the dorsey bandwagon for now, if we stay at the top.



Long and Dorsey need to bulk up really.... but with Long he is already experienced and coached in the 3-4 scheme. he makes insane plays in many ways all over the field, and opens up plays for backers to make.

i personally am leaning towards Chris Long slightly right now to take #1.

2413fanphins
02-10-2008, 07:25 PM
how sick would it be to have two sweet DE in long and JT



I thought taylor was going to be an OLB if we switched to a 3-4.

I could be wrong though, but if I am not, than who is going to be the DE opposite of long, if we draft him?

#1dolphinsfan
02-10-2008, 07:37 PM
I wouldnt mind Chris Long or Glenn Dorsey

I am Bane
02-10-2008, 07:58 PM
I thought taylor was going to be an OLB if we switched to a 3-4.

I could be wrong though, but if I am not, than who is going to be the DE opposite of long, if we draft him?



if we went 3-4 most likely Taylor would be OLB, so he can run freely and use his skills as a pass rusher

Silverphin
02-10-2008, 08:04 PM
Taking Chris Long over Glenn Dorsey, to me, would be like coming home with a Ferrari instead of a Lamborghini. Would prefer the Lambo (Dorsey), but won't complain if we get the Ferrari (Long).

endorPHINS72
02-10-2008, 08:28 PM
I have wanted C Long from the beginning. That is of course if we kept the #1 overall pick. I wouldn't mind Dorsey either, but prefer Long.


Me too. Chris Long seems to me like the kind of guy who can pick up where Zach leaves off as the fiery leader of the defense.

endorPHINS72
02-10-2008, 08:30 PM
Long and Dorsey need to bulk up really.... but with Long he is already experienced and coached in the 3-4 scheme. he makes insane plays in many ways all over the field, and opens up plays for backers to make.

i personally am leaning towards Chris Long slightly right now to take #1.


I really think that if we take Chris Long, we will use him as an OLB, and at his size, that should be fine in a 3-4.

2413fanphins
02-10-2008, 08:59 PM
I really think that if we take Chris Long, we will use him as an OLB, and at his size, that should be fine in a 3-4.



I just don't get the pick as a whole I guess.

If we switch to a 3-4 and draft chris long, and move taylor to OLB, than we still need a DE. In theory I guess we could still use roth, but in drafting long, aren't we essentially demoting matt roth??

If we put long in at OLB, than we still need to address the front three with another selection later or a FA.

I don't know for sure how we are going to convert to this 3-4 with so many missing pieces.

If we stay at 4-3 than either guy makes more sense.

I would hate to draft long and make him a OLB when our 3 DL would get dominated on every down.

I'm just not seeing it really. How can we instill a new D when we don't have the pieces to do so?

malzacher
02-10-2008, 09:11 PM
If we keep the first overall pick, it will indeed be defense. It wins championchips..Ask the Giants about that. Stomp on brady's head all day that's why we need haynseworth lol. If we stay, im willing to put money on that were taking dorsey

Marino22
02-10-2008, 09:30 PM
yea dorsey would be my bet if i had to choose rihgt now, but I do like Matt Ryan i mean i am just not comfortable with John Beck going into next season our starter

IDFinFan
02-10-2008, 10:47 PM
Can Chris Long stand up and play OLB?

Brown42000
02-10-2008, 10:50 PM
Chris Long is the best pick Dorsey is more suited for a 4-3 scheme and Miami won't be running that.

DOL-FAN92
02-10-2008, 11:00 PM
Last I checked other than JT we lacked a playmaker on D.

hmmmmm......so I guess Zach Thomas's Hall Of Fame career in MIA was just by standing up all the time,or was Zach just there?

Motion
02-10-2008, 11:16 PM
hmmmmm......so I guess Zach Thomas's Hall Of Fame career in MIA was just by standing up all the time,or was Zach just there?

Even if you think Zach could ever possibly return at 100% you have to consider age. I'm a huge ZT fan but the fact is his best days are behind him and we can't count on him anymore.

zach8111
02-11-2008, 01:15 AM
I think i'd rather go with an offensive player, be it a linemen, or a QB, or even McFadden in that very unlikely event. To me the most SECURE option is trading down, because the clear cut number one guy just isn't there, and this team has plenty of holes that need filling.
when is the clear cut number 1 guy ever taken first. in the last few drafts, the clear cut best guy in the draft hasnt went first. Calvin Johnson, Reggie Bush...Alex Smith wasnt the best the year before.

RUDEbyallMEANS
02-11-2008, 06:31 AM
Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey or Vernon Gholston

Fullerboy
02-11-2008, 07:20 AM
If somebody knowledgeable without bias would answer my question as to whether or not C.Long needs to bulk up I would be able to make a more informed decision.

Based on motor alone thats fine, but thats why I liked the matt roth pick, and I am looking like an idiot for that so far.

If he needs to bulk up... how much?

than I have to determine how much speed he will loose, because inevitably, if you have more mass, generally you slow down.

I guess I'm still on the dorsey bandwagon for now, if we stay at the top.

We could get Chris Long with our pick, would he make a bigger impact? I dont know but missing out on a once in every 15 year prospect like Dorsey would in my opinion be a big mistake. Dorsey has all the skills to dominate in all he does. People dont speculate look at the film, we wont have the chance in a long time to get such a force on our team, the NFL is full of high motor guys and its good to have that trait but what we need is talent and thats what Dorsey has.

Fullerboy
02-11-2008, 07:29 AM
I just don't get the pick as a whole I guess.

If we switch to a 3-4 and draft chris long, and move taylor to OLB, than we still need a DE. In theory I guess we could still use roth, but in drafting long, aren't we essentially demoting matt roth??

If we put long in at OLB, than we still need to address the front three with another selection later or a FA.

I don't know for sure how we are going to convert to this 3-4 with so many missing pieces.

If we stay at 4-3 than either guy makes more sense.

I would hate to draft long and make him a OLB when our 3 DL would get dominated on every down.

I'm just not seeing it really. How can we instill a new D when we don't have the pieces to do so?


It seems to be a bandwagon type thing, if some sport show say Shack would be better fit for nose tackle, we would have a share of posters saying we should draft him instead of looking at what he does or what he has done.

MrEd
02-11-2008, 01:49 PM
yea dorsey would be my bet if i had to choose rihgt now, but I do like Matt Ryan i mean i am just not comfortable with John Beck going into next season our starter

You and me too. I just got done watching the John Beck games on NFL videos. Ugh! He was disgusting! Please, BP, bring us Matt Ryan! Please!

MrEd
02-11-2008, 01:52 PM
If we keep the first overall pick, it will indeed be defense. It wins championchips..Ask the Giants about that. Stomp on brady's head all day that's why we need haynseworth lol. If we stay, im willing to put money on that were taking dorsey

I don't know. Last I saw, it was Eli Manning, not Michael Strahan throwing the "SB game winning TD".

When that defense left the field with 2:40 left, guess what? THEY WERE STILL LOSING!!!

QB's win championships...defense just keeps you in the game. Thus, why ELI MANNING was the SB MVP, not Strahan or anyone on the defense for that matter.

If MIA keeps the #1 overall pick. It's a no brainer: Matt Ryan.

2413fanphins
02-11-2008, 03:05 PM
motion...

are you saying we should cut ties with zach?


I didn't think his production had dropped that much until the 07 season with the concussions and such.

I would have to double check but didn't he just lead the league in tackles 2 years ago?

With the ages of some of the guys on the pats defense, I tend to think age may be overrated just a bit.