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dolfan4good
09-02-2003, 02:49 PM
http://billsbillspage.com/index.shtml

If Milloy does end up in Buffalo, they will be one tough defense to deal with. The way I see it, their major weaknesses currently are the deep secondary and DE pass rush. This would upgrade them significantly.

akfinfan
09-02-2003, 02:50 PM
From kffl.com

Bills | Interested in Signing Milloy - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:34:29 -0700

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Buffalo Bills have made a contract offer to free agent S Lawyer Milloy (Patriots).

FinFrenzy
09-02-2003, 02:53 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ZOD
09-02-2003, 02:56 PM
I hate it when another AFC east team has cash...

C'mon. Let's hear it Clump..... :nono:

TypicalBill
09-02-2003, 02:59 PM
This came right off the espn website:Will Milloy face Pats in Week 1?
Could standout strong safety Lawyer Milloy actually line up against his former team in Sunday's regular season opener? Don't bet against it.

Armed with Drew Bledsoe's endorsement, the Buffalo Bills have already made contact with Milloy's representatives and made an opening contract proposal, ESPN.com has learned.

The Patriots and Bills meet in Buffalo Sunday in what already is seen as a key matchup of AFC East contenders.

Several teams may interested in Milloy, a top safety and respected locker room presence. A few might hesitate to sign Milloy, 29, before this wekend, since "vested" veterans have their base salaries guaranteed on opening day, but Buffalo wants to complete a deal quickly if the financial numbers are right.

"We'd sign him right now and play him on Sunday," said a high-ranking team official.

The current Buffalo starters, Coy Wire and Pierson Priloeau, are solid defenders but not in Milloy's class. The two did not have an interception between them in 2002.
--Len Pasquarelli

Scrap
09-02-2003, 03:00 PM
This Milloy thing is sucking.


I want to go boating with 2 Dolphin fans.

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 03:04 PM
I love life

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 03:05 PM
the deal is as good as done!

Emskirch
09-02-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
I love life

So do I, piece together a vanallia defense :lol:

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Emskirch


So do I, piece together a vanallia defense :lol:
with the best LB corps in the league;)

TypicalBill
09-02-2003, 03:11 PM
i still cant beleive they released a guy that has been to 4 probowls in the last 5 years.... and he's not even 30 years old yet.


This has been the best offseason ever :D

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by TypicalBill
i still cant beleive they released a guy that has been to 4 probowls in the last 5 years.... and he's not even 30 years old yet.


This has been the best offseason ever :D
indeed...we just keep getting better:cool:

dolphan
09-02-2003, 03:16 PM
How the F***!!!!!!!!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Penthos
09-02-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

with the best LB corps in the league;)

Remeber how you so much like to point out when others are just espousing opinions... Well your above statement is definitely an opinion.

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by 13isgr81


Remeber how you so much like to point out when others are just espousing opinions... Well your above statement is definitely an opinion. right now, yes...but at the end of the season, no;)

Emskirch
09-02-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

with the best LB corps in the league;)

Please go share your deams with your Bills fans at billszone, I am sure they would like to hear what you think :lol:

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Emskirch


Please go share your deams with your Bills fans at billszone, I am sure they would like to hear what you think :lol:
give me a better one...and don't forget the stats to back it up;)

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 03:35 PM
btw em...tell me about that second bet...I told you to tell me in the other thread but you left it...im interested if it's not as one-sided as the last proposed bet

MDFINFAN
09-02-2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

with the best LB corps in the league;)

They haven't proven this yet? BE CAREFUL to present something as fact. this is your opinion.

Penthos
09-02-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

give me a better one...and don't forget the stats to back it up;)

Why so you can quote Spike's stats from Cincinnati? Whatever! There are LB corps that are close enough statistically that we could argue all day, in fact it has already been done.

We'll see how Too-Gay-Oh Spikes does in a REAL division. See its easy to stand and out make all the plays on a team when the rest of your team is crap.

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by 13isgr81


Why so you can quote Spike's stats from Cincinnati? Whatever! There are LB corps that are close enough statistically that we could argue all day, in fact it has already been done.

We'll see how Too-Gay-Oh Spikes does in a REAL division. See its easy to stand and out make all the plays on a team when the rest of your team is crap.
Spikes is better than Seau, and Posey is obviously better than Moron Greenwood...Zach beat out Fletcher by 7 tackles last year...Zach finished with the most tackles in the league, Fletch second...anything else?

zevo
09-02-2003, 03:50 PM
verbal agreement has been reached!

Penthos
09-02-2003, 04:20 PM
I wasn't saying the Dolphins had a better linbacking corps, what I was saying is that there are corps with comparable numbers...

Since you specified a comparison against Miami lets look at the combined totals in some key categories from last year of each of our teams starting LBs this year.

Bills LBs (Spikes, Posey, Fletcher)...
Tackles:322... Sacks:13... INTS:1 Passes Deflected:9

Fins LBs(Thomas, Seau, Greenwood)...
Tackles:291... Sacks: 4... INTS:2 Passes Deflected:12

Now bearing in mind that Seau was playing on an injured leg all last year, those numbers are too close and the defensive schemes are too different for you to say as point of fact that the Bills have the best linbacking corps in the NFL...

Yes its your opinion, but thats all.

Samphin
09-02-2003, 05:25 PM
Ah Screw it, let the Bills have Millpy. He will be just another name Ricky will leave his cleat mark on as he rubmles righot over the top of them. Of Course, Spikes might leave some marks on Milloy as well as Ricky will be dragging that Bengal reject ( I know I am stretching it :lol: ) down the field with him.

If the Bills want to continue to improve their tema by raiding the other competitors within the division, so be it. I would rather have to deal with one other strong team than three good teams.

Besides, its the Bills for crying out loud. They are one hit away from starting Alex Van Pelt.

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Samphin
Ah Screw it, let the Bills have Millpy. He will be just another name Ricky will leave his cleat mark on as he rubmles righot over the top of them. Of Course, Spikes might leave some marks on Milloy as well as Ricky will be dragging that Bengal reject ( I know I am stretching it :lol: ) down the field with him.

If the Bills want to continue to improve their tema by raiding the other competitors within the division, so be it. I would rather have to deal with one other strong team than three good teams.

Besides, its the Bills for crying out loud. They are one hit away from starting Alex Van Pelt.
and your one hit away from a qb who's taken 3 snaps as a dolphin:lol:

Samphin
09-02-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

and your one hit away from a qb who's taken 3 snaps as a dolphin:lol:

Albeit true, I still take Sage than Van Pelt.

By the way, according ESPN, a deal isn't as imminent as you Bills fans might think for Milloy. Apparently the Vikings and Saints are pushing pretty hard, along with the Bills, for his services. Clayton is saying it could take as late as tomorrow until he his signed somewhere.

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Samphin


Albeit true, I still take Sage than Van Pelt.

By the way, according ESPN, a deal isn't as imminent as you Bills fans might think for Milloy. Apparently the Vikings and Saints are pushing pretty hard, along with the Bills, for his services. Clayton is saying it could take as late as tomorrow until he his signed somewhere.
yes..I've heard:fire:

ohall
09-02-2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
I love life

You can't be loving life because of anything your Bills have ever done.

Plus you haven't signed anyone yet. The Saints and Vikings are also in the running.

Oliver...

ohall
09-02-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

yes..I've heard:fire:

LoL premature celebration, WIDE RIGHT!

Oliver...

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


You can't be loving life because of anything your Bills have ver done.

Plus you haven't signed anyone yet. The Saints and Vikings are also in the running.

Oliver... The Bills have had a fantastic offseason and have playoff aspirations for the first time since 2000, so I am loving it;) ...btw, why are you trying to bait me with every post?

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


LoL premature celebration, WIDE RIGHT!

Oliver...
wide right?...oh, now thats original

john riggins:tongue: ...4th and 1

ohall
09-02-2003, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
The Bills have had a fantastic offseason and have playoff aspirations for the first time since 2000, so I am loving it;) ...btw, why are you trying to bait me with every post?

Baiting you?

Too funny. I'm the Dolphins fan on a Dolphins MBoard. DUR!

Oliver...

ohall
09-02-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

wide right?...oh, now thats original

john riggins:tongue: ...4th and 1

Got to win one to joke about not winning one.

Oliver...

XoPhinsoX
09-02-2003, 06:36 PM
I'd wait to see how much he signs for before jumping up and down. He left NE cause of a huge contract, right? He's probably gonna want to make back some of that money he is losing out on ;).

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


Got to win one to joke about not winning one.

Oliver...
says who?...in what book did you read this?

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by XoPhinsoX
I'd wait to see how much he signs for before jumping up and down. He left NE cause of a huge contract, right? He's probably gonna want to make back some of that money he is losing out on ;).
i don't doubt it...which is why Buffalo is one of the front runners..we have lots of cap room;)

ohall
09-02-2003, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

says who?...in what book did you read this?

How can any fan make fun of another fans team for losing a Super Bowl when one of those fans team has never won a Super Bowl? It seems like a weak thing to do to me. Then again my team has won TWO Super Bowls.

Oliver...

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


How can any fan make fun of another fans team for losing a Super Bowl when one of those fans team has never won a Super Bowl? It seems like a weak thing to do to me. Then again my team has won TWO Super Bowls.

Oliver... and don't forget to put down when they won them...Red sox won a world series too...hoo-ray:lol:

ohall
09-02-2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
and don't forget to put down when they won them...Red sox won a world series too...hoo-ray:lol:

The never ending round and round with circlingwagons, now I know why you chose that name.

Oliver...

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


The never ending round and round with circlingwagons, now I know why you chose that name.

Oliver...
your backpedaling now:lol:
just put down the dates...what's the matter?
you know what the matter is?...you know it has no bearing on this year, you're just desperate for comebacks...same old story.
Tell me how the 72 squad will help you now, and maybe I'll give a ****:lol:

ohall
09-02-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

your backpedaling now:lol:
just put down the dates...what's the matter?
you know what the matter is?...you know it has no bearing on this year, you're just desperate for comebacks...same old story.
Tell me how the 72 squad will help you now, and maybe I'll give a ****:lol:

How you get I'm back peddling from my previous post is beyond me.

I've explained to you over and over your Bills going to 4 Super Bowls and losing 11-years ago is no less relevant than the Dolphins winning back to back Super Bowls 29-years ago. They are both in the past, so they are equally relevant.

Like I said it's a constant round and round with you. Each day you forget what was discussed the previous days for some reason.

Have the Bills signed Milloy yet?

Oliver...

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


How you get I'm back peddling from my previous post is beyond me.

I've explained to you over and over your Bills going to 4 Super Bowls and losing 11-years ago is no less relevant than the Dolphins winning back to back Super Bowls 29-years ago. They are both in the past, so they are equally relevant.

Like I said it's a constant round and round with you. Each day you forget what was discussed the previous days for some reason.

Have the Bills signed Milloy yet?

Oliver...
nope...Clayton came on and said Bills, Vikings and Saints were the frontrunners...btw...I didn't just mention the 4 SB's...but while were on the subject...answer my previous question about the 72 team...you won't be able to though, so let it go...they're never coming back..so just hope your drought doesn't continue another 20 years :lol:

ohall
09-02-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

nope...Clayton came on and said Bills, Vikings and Saints were the frontrunners...btw...I didn't just mention the 4 SB's...but while were on the subject...answer my previous question about the 72 team...you won't be able to though, so let it go...they're never coming back..so just hope your drought doesn't continue another 20 years :lol:

CW, the same way the Dolphins TWO titles will not help the current Dolphins, either will the Bills losing 4 straight Super Bowls help the current Bills. The point is, and always has been this franchise has won Super Bowl titles, your franchise never has. There is no deeper meaning, you are the only one looking for a deeper meaning when it comes to that subject.

If your franchise has never won a Super Bowl, you have no room to make fun of a fans team that have won Super Bowl titles. That was how this whole round and round got started.

Oliver...

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


CW, the same way the Dolphins TWO titles will not help the current Dolphins, either will the Bills losing 4 straight Super Bowls help the current Bills. The point is, and always has been this franchise has won Super Bowl titles, your franchise never has. There is no deeper meaning, you are the only one looking for a deeper meaning when it comes to that subject.

If your franchise has never won a Super Bowl, you have no room to make fun of a fans team that have won Super Bowl titles. That was how this whole round and round got started.

Oliver...
I can make fun of your team all i want...don't like it...don't answer..now, once again, how does 1972 help you now?...let me expand the question for you since you clearly don't understand it....How does the 72 team affect the team's play this year?...bueller?....The Dolphins are not Superbowl Champions....a long long long time ago they were...but that was then, this is now...If you're content with 1972, then why watch now?....who would you rather be, the current Superbowl champions, or the 30 years removed champions?...move on already:rolleyes:

ohall
09-02-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

I can make fun of your team all i want...don't like it...don't answer..now, once again, how does 1972 help you now?...let me expand the question for you since you clearly don't understand it....How does the 72 team affect the team's play this year?...bueller?....The Dolphins are not Superbowl Champions....a long long long time ago they were...but that was then, this is now...If you're content with 1972, then why watch now?....who would you rather be, the current Superbowl champions, or the 30 years removed champions?...move on already:rolleyes:

The Dolphins have won a Super Bowl, your team has not. If you want to make fun a franchise that has won TWO titles while your franchise has not, that's your problem. I know I would feel foolish doing that.

And of course you can say whatever you want to. I don't believe I ever implied you cannot do that. I did however take exception to your tact. That of course is also my right. I don't know what the problem is. Oh wait, yes I do. Your team has yet to win a Super Bowl, but that's too simple cutting right to the quick.

Oliver...

Samphin
09-02-2003, 07:21 PM
OY vey, let it go Circling wagons. Oliver is somewhat right. No one said anythign about 1972 helping us but you. So it seems that the only one living in the past in this thread is yourself. His point was how can a fan of a perennial loser (not smack just using the term) make fun of a team that has a proven track record in their history of winning the big game. I for one don't see the relevence of the argument due to neither team accomplishing squat recently.

However, if this is gonna be a big :monkey: contest then I am siding with my Dolphin brother here. You keep chiding us on and on about the last time we won a Super Bowl. I guess that is as opposed to when your team last won one right?

Anyhow, just let it go and lets get back to worrying/cheering if Milloy signs with the Bills or not mmm K?:stooges:

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 07:25 PM
proven track record in winning?....you havent been to the sb in 20 years!...hooray mediocrity....and btw, Oliver always likes to turn these into sb convos, then he runs, realizing he can't finished what he started...not finishing what you start...who does that remind you of?...lmao

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Samphin
OY vey, let it go Circling wagons. Oliver is somewhat right. No one said anythign about 1972 helping us but you. So it seems that the only one living in the past in this thread is yourself. His point was how can a fan of a perennial loser (not smack just using the term) make fun of a team that has a proven track record in their history of winning the big game. I for one don't see the relevence of the argument due to neither team accomplishing squat recently.

However, if this is gonna be a big :monkey: contest then I am siding with my Dolphin brother here. You keep chiding us on and on about the last time we won a Super Bowl. I guess that is as opposed to when your team last won one right?

Anyhow, just let it go and lets get back to worrying/cheering if Milloy signs with the Bills or not mmm K?:stooges:
btw, I'm all for your last quote....I'm done with this if Oliver is...

ohall
09-02-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

btw, I'm all for your last quote....I'm done with this if Oliver is...

It will never be over so long as you want to wipe out the Dolphins heritage. You do that in almost every post you make. Sorry I know if you go around implying the things you do about this franchise I will more than likely always try to correct you. This is a Miami Dolphins MBoard. You should know better.

Oliver...

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


It will never be over so long as you want to wipe out the Dolphins heritage. You do that in almost every post you make. Sorry I know if you go around implying the things you do about this franchise I will more than likely always try to correct you. This is a Miami Dolphins MBoard. You should know better.

Oliver...
It's not your family...it's a football team, spare me the heritage crap

Samphin
09-02-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
proven track record in winning?....you havent been to the sb in 20 years!...hooray mediocrity....and btw, Oliver always likes to turn these into sb convos, then he runs, realizing he can't finished what he started...not finishing what you start...who does that remind you of?...lmao

This is what I mean, why can't you just let it go without putting in a few potshots. If you want me to get technical I will.

Miami has the NFL's highest winning % for a franchise. They also have not had a lossing season in quite awhile. Someone help me out 8 years? 7?

They have actually won Super Bowl Titles. I realize none of this means squat for the upcomign season, however you wanted to come onto a DOlphins board and start joking abotu Miami's "mediocrity." Well, I have news for you, if Miami is "mediocre," than I don't think they have invented a word for how sorry the Buffalo Franchise is in comparison.

The crack about not finishing what you start? Sounds even more ridicolous coming from a fan of a team who lost FOUR Super Bowls in a row. Not even the Bengals have done that. :lol: Talk about not finishing what you start huh?

But again, I didn't want to get in the middle of this. This whole entire thread has taken a severe wrong turn into Bills Country on a Dolphins forum. At least we can gree to stick to the topic that is orignally off topic right? :confused:

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Samphin


This is what I mean, why can't you just let it go without putting in a few potshots. If you want me to get technical I will.

Miami has the NFL's highest winning % for a franchise. They also have not had a lossing season in quite awhile. Someone help me out 8 years? 7?

They have actually won Super Bowl Titles. I realize none of this means squat for the upcomign season, however you wanted to come onto a DOlphins board and start joking abotu Miami's "mediocrity." Well, I have news for you, if Miami is "mediocre," than I don't think they have invented a word for how sorry the Buffalo Franchise is in comparison.

The crack about not finishing what you start? Sounds even more ridicolous coming from a fan of a team who lost FOUR Super Bowls in a row. Not even the Bengals have done that. :lol: Talk about not finishing what you start huh?

But again, I didn't want to get in the middle of this. This whole entire thread has taken a severe wrong turn into Bills Country on a Dolphins forum. At least we can gree to stick to the topic that is orignally off topic right? :confused:
I was fine with killing the argument, but your buddy Oliver wasn't...you're pointing the finger at the wrong person...I offered a truce, and he ceased not to be a dickwad...oh well:confused:

ohall
09-02-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

I was fine with killing the argument, but your buddy Oliver wasn't...you're pointing the finger at the wrong person...I offered a truce, and he ceased not to be a dickwad...oh well:confused:

I think you're taking this too personal. I have no problem with you, in fact I like you. You usually have a GREAT attitude, and I think you bring alot to any MBoard.

But for me it's difficult to ignore the constant Phin bashing in your posts. It's subtle, but it's always there. I think most ppl let that slide, because I think everyone likes posting with you. I'm the same way. I just wish you would stop the constant subtle Phin bashing.

Oliver...

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


I think you're taking this too personal. I have no problem with you, in fact I like you. You usually have a GREAT attitude, and I think you bring alot to any MBoard.

But for me it's difficult to ignore the constant Phin bashing in your posts. It's subtle, but it's always there. I think most ppl let that slide, because I think everyone likes posting with you. I'm the same way. I just wish you would stop the constant subtle Phin bashing.

Oliver...
Oliver, I appreciate that(no jokes)...you guys have seen me around enough that I do it all in good fun....whether it's saying Seau is a geezer, Knight is slow as dirt, Jayt crys...etc, etc..I'm just a rival fan having fun with you guys...I have no malicious intent in any of my posts...Is JT a great player?..hell yeah, of course he is..Knight is too, Seau was..but is still effective...I'm not trying to start a war...I'm just like any other fan, waiting for the season to start

Samphin
09-02-2003, 08:00 PM
Alright then, I will take matters into my own hand. Say Lawyer Milloy does in fact, sign with the Bills. How does that shift the division as far as standings go. Originally, I have Miami as my pick (naturally) to win the division. I also, have the Jets to finish last (naturally). I did, however have New England ahead of Buffalo for a wildcard birth before today's events.

I think more than anything, this hurts the division as a whole if he goes to Buffalo. It pretty much evens the playing field talent wise between arguably, every team (when healthy and not raped by the Redskins). Milloy weakens the Patriots and strengthens the Bills which, in my opinion, puts them both pretty close to Miami. How does this hurt the division? Simple. My feeling is that once again, everyone will beat up on everyone else and leaving a sole representative to go into the playoffs fatigued and with less talented teams from the south and North getting the wild card slots.

However, this should make for even more nail biting and exciting moments whenever the Jets, Dolphins, Bills and Patriots play one another.

It seems as if the four teams have broken off into seperate rivalries within the division as well. The Bills and Patriots absolutely hate each other and seemingly make moves to counter the moves of the other.

Meanwhile, the Jets and Dolphins will continue to hate each other this year. Miami finally broke the streak last year only to have theirs snapped later in the season at 1, when the Jets returned the favor. All I know, is that the two weeks the Bills and Patriots play each other, I might have to link a little bit from the Dolphins game to take a peak at whats going on on that side.

Man I cannot wait.

ohall
09-02-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons

Oliver, I appreciate that(no jokes)...you guys have seen me around enough that I do it all in good fun....whether it's saying Seau is a geezer, Knight is slow as dirt, Jayt crys...etc, etc..I'm just a rival fan having fun with you guys...I have no malicious intent in any of my posts...Is JT a great player?..hell yeah, of course he is..Knight is too, Seau was..but is still effective...I'm not trying to start a war...I'm just like any other fan, waiting for the season to start

Cool, it's all good.

Oliver...

Samphin
09-02-2003, 08:02 PM
Okay it seems while I was posting, everything seemed to wrap up quite nicely....hmmm SO uh You guys like...stuff?


:dance:

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Samphin
Alright then, I will take matters into my own hand. Say Lawyer Milloy does in fact, sign with the Bills. How does that shift the division as far as standings go. Originally, I have Miami as my pick (naturally) to win the division. I also, have the Jets to finish last (naturally). I did, however have New England ahead of Buffalo for a wildcard birth before today's events.

I Thik more than anything, this hurts the division as a whole if he goes to Buffalo. It pretty much evens the playing field talent wise between arguably, every team (when healthy and not raped by the Redskins). Milloy weakens the Patriots and strengthens the Bills which, in my opinion, puts them both pretty close to Miami. How does this hurt the division? Simple. My feeling is that once again, everyone will beat up on everyone else and leaving a sole representative to go into the playoffs fatigued and with less talented teams from the south and north getting the wild card slots.

However, this should make for even more nail biting and exciting moments whenever the Jets, Dolphins, Bills and Patriots play one another.
It seems as if the four teams have broken off into seperate rivalries within the division as well. The Bills and Patriots absolutely hate each other and seemingly make moves to counter the moves of the other.

Meanwhile, the Jets and Dolphins will continue to hate each other this year. Miami finally broke the streak last year only to have theirs snapped later in the seasno at 1, when the Jets returned the favor. All I know, is that the two weeks the Bills and PAtriots play each other, I might have to link a little bit from the Dolphins game to take a peak at whats going on on that side.

Man I cannot wait.
man you hit the nail on the head....each divisional game is going to have a playoff atmosphere....and if we don't get Milloy, oh well...it's not all bad news for us if we dont...I just heard we got a conditional 4th rounder for gary...meaning he can go as high as 3rd or 2nd...instead of getting him as a cond 7th and possibly a 5th or 6th...excuse me if that makes no sense

anyways...losing Milloy weakens are current nemesis...all good

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Samphin
Okay it seems while I was posting, everything seemed to wrap up quite nicely....hmmm SO uh You guys like...stuff?


:dance:
go **** yourself!
j/k dude:lol:

ohall
09-02-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Samphin
Alright then, I will take matters into my own hand. Say Lawyer Milloy does in fact, sign with the Bills. How does that shift the division as far as standings go. Originally, I have Miami as my pick (naturally) to win the division. I also, have the Jets to finish last (naturally). I did, however have New England ahead of Buffalo for a wildcard birth before today's events.

I Thik more than anything, this hurts the division as a whole if he goes to Buffalo. It pretty much evens the playing field talent wise between arguably, every team (when healthy and not raped by the Redskins). Milloy weakens the Patriots and strengthens the Bills which, in my opinion, puts them both pretty close to Miami. How does this hurt the division? Simple. My feeling is that once again, everyone will beat up on everyone else and leaving a sole representative to go into the playoffs fatigued and with less talented teams from the south and north getting the wild card slots.

However, this should make for even more nail biting and exciting moments whenever the Jets, Dolphins, Bills and Patriots play one another.
It seems as if the four teams have broken off into seperate rivalries within the division as well. The Bills and Patriots absolutely hate each other and seemingly make moves to counter the moves of the other.

Meanwhile, the Jets and Dolphins will continue to hate each other this year. Miami finally broke the streak last year only to have theirs snapped later in the seasno at 1, when the Jets returned the favor. All I know, is that the two weeks the Bills and PAtriots play each other, I might have to link a little bit from the Dolphins game to take a peak at whats going on on that side.

Man I cannot wait.

The way I see things is if the Bills get Milloy the Pats weakened their team and the Bills got a good player for the future. I do not think Milloy can go into a new system and play like his regular self for at least 4 games, at best. I don't think Milloy is the missing piece to the Bills D. If he signs it will be for big money and that will hamper any further progression in the future for that D as far as adding players in the future.

In short I think any which way, the Dolphins have just received a gift, and the AFC East title became an easier win with the Pats being knocked down a notch.

Oliver...

Samphin
09-02-2003, 08:09 PM
:lol: I knew this wasn't going to last. You know what this thread has evolved into? Ever get into a fight with your borther or best friend growing up? I mean like a really nasty one, that gets broken up by your father/mother/other friend/ girlfriend/ teacher/ dog/ whatever. Then there is that awkward silence where both of you are in the room and you know it isn't resolved but one of you tries to be the bigger person and squash it but the other cuts you off by punching you in the nose before they leave the room? Well, that is what just happened I think...sort of, over the computer....

So the Bills might get a second round pick for Olandis Gary? Man that is just criminal.

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


The way I see things is if the Bills get Milloy the Pats weakened their team and the Bills got a good player for the future. I do not think Milloy can go into a new system and play like his regular self for at least 4 games, at best. I don't think Milloy is the missing piece to the Bills D. If he signs it will be for big money and that will hamper any further progression in the future for that D as far as adding players in the future.

In short I think any which way, the Dolphins have just received a gift, and the AFC East title became an easier win with the Pats being knocked down a notch.

Oliver... Milloy would not take that long IMO...he's in game shape, and he doesnt need 4 weeks to learn a D...he's a smart player...also, his services on or off the field would be invaluable against New England....The only glaring weakness on our team is LDE

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Samphin
:lol: I knew this wasn't going to last. You know what this thread has evolved into? Ever get into a fight with your borther or best friend growing up? I mean like a really nasty one, that gets broken up by your father/mother/other friend/ girlfriend/ teacher/ dog/ whatever. Then there is that awkward silence where both of you are in the room and you know it isn't resolved but one of you tries to be the bigger person and squash it but the other cuts you off by punching you in the nose before they leave the room? Well, that is what just happened I think...sort of, over the computer....

So the Bills might get a second round pick for Olandis Gary? Man that is just criminal.

if it goes that high maybe...thats funny, cause I just read that stewart is out for the year and gary has already learned the offense...come on olandis!:cool:

Samphin
09-02-2003, 08:14 PM
You guys will be like the Saints were with us last year, Hoping he rushes for as much as he possibly can while hoping the team does terrible. I just hope he stumbles and makes you guys get the lowest draft pick possible (which is still too high) and that your running game falters as well. MuhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It is too hot today.

3W
09-02-2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


If your franchise has never won a Super Bowl, you have no room to make fun of a fans team that have won Super Bowl titles. That was how this whole round and round got started.

Oliver...

Since when has this Almighty rule been instated and etched in stone.:shakeno:

CirclingWagons
09-02-2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Samphin
You guys will be like the Saints were with us last year, Hoping he rushes for as much as he possibly can while hoping the team does terrible. I just hope he stumbles and makes you guys get the lowest draft pick possible (which is still too high) and that your running game falters as well. MuhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It is too hot today.
if our running game falters than I'll be at a loss for words...we have all the tools needed to make this a very good offense...only potential ?, is the play of receivers 2-4, but I'm very optimistic

ohall
09-02-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by 3W


Since when has this Almighty rule been instated and etched in stone.:shakeno:

It's called having scruples. You know, don't throw stones at your own glass house.

I won’t be surprised if you do not understand what I’m talking about here.

Oliver...

3W
09-02-2003, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


It's called having scruples. You know, don't throw stones at your own glass house.

I won’t be surprised if you do not understand what I’m talking about here.

Oliver...

I like throwing stones at your glass house and if I happen to knock out some of my own windows in the process it doesn't matter...it'll be worth it.;) Now go have yourself a nice big bowl of scruples...I'm going back to the smack forum where I belong and where you are out of your element....carry on :www:

3W...

ohall
09-02-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by 3W


I like throwing stones at your glass house and if I happen to knock out some of my own windows in the process it doesn't matter...it'll be worth it.;) Now go have yourself a nice big bowl of scruples...I'm going back to the smack forum where I belong and where you are out of your element....carry on :www:

3W...

You can't be that way for real. I think you just didn't think it thru.

Oliver...

3W
09-02-2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Oliver


You can't be that way for real.

Oliver...

No, I am....REALLY:eek:

3W..

TigerJ
09-02-2003, 09:45 PM
Let me bring this back to the original subject. As of right now the current rumor is that Milloy and Buffalo have reached an agreement. There are two sources I can give. One is an independent Bills fan site: www.billsreport.com and the other is Mike Florio's www.profootballtalk.com Granted other teams may want Milloy. I don't know what their cap situations are. I do know that Buffalo has cap room, an interest in upgrading their talent at safety, and all things being equal, I suspect Milloy might be interested is signing with a division rival so he has a chance to stick it to his old team. Still, it has not move past the rumor stage. I can wait to celebrate.