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ChambersWI
04-27-2008, 07:39 PM
If you are looking for a sexy draft, you should look else where. All but 3 of our picks went towards linemen, and even the 3 skills players we drafted are tough, gritty people. Let's start looking at the picks...

Jake Long OT, Michigan- I am a Michigan fan, so I do have a bit of a biased towards the pick, but it's hard not to like the pick. Jake fits the attitude Parcells, Ireland, and Sparano are trying to bring to the team. I'm not gonna go into great detail about Jake because we've been talking about him to death for months now. We know he'll be in camp on time, we know he'll be our starting LT, we know he's a great run blocker, and we know he's being looked as as the anchor to our line.

Phillip Merling DE, Clemson Honestly, he was probably the BPA at 32. Originally, I thought we drafted him to play DE in a 3-4 because of his strength, and his ability to stop the run. However, upon further investigation, I think he's being groomed as a SLB in a 3-4. He's very athletic for his size, and is a bit underdeveloped as a pass rusher, but he's most comfortable playing around 270. I also think that if we start the season as a 4-3 team (which I do believe is a possibility) I could see Merling starting at the strongside DE. From Clemson fans: He's not the pass rusher Gaines Adams is, but is a better all around player.

Chad Henne QB, Michigan Even as a Michigan fan and Henne supporter, I was weary of him at 32, but at 58 I was ok with the pick. If Henne ends up being our franchise QB, I think he'll do fine. His numbers in college might not be too impressive, but you have to remember that at Michigan he was rarely given an open playbook. Henne is a tough player with a high football IQ, and is also a great leader (watch any of his two minute drives in his career). At the very worst, we've got some good trade bait in a couple years.

Kendall Langford DE, Hampton Make no mistake about it, Hampton was drafted to be a DE in the 3-4. I'm not too surprised here because we've shown a lot of interest in him since the senior bowl, but probably a bit we took him a little early. He is a lot like Richard Seymour, and could be a steal for us. Also, after listening to his conference call, I like the guy. He was giddy about being drafted, and went to Hampton because of the loyalty they showed him while he waited on his SAT scores.

Shawn Murphy OG, Utah State Another Stormin Mormon to hang out with Beck. Sparano and OL coach Mike Maser apparantly love the guy. Murphy is a bit of an underrated prospect by most, but others really love his potential. He's 25 so he doesn't have as much time to develop, but he could be our starting LG come September.

Jalen Parmele RB, Toledo Once we traded Lo Booker, I knew it was only a matter of time before we drafted another RB. Although I would've preferred Hart, Parmele is not a bad runningback. He is built much like fellow Toledo alum, Chestor Taylor, who has been a very productive back for both the Ravens and the Vikings. Parmele also has deceptive speed. I could see him having a nice impact on the team next year.

Donald Thomas OG, UCONN After we picked Murphy, I was kind of shocked by this pick, but most of us on the board agreed that we should probably draft 3 offensive linemen, and we did. First team All Big-East and a big reason for UCONN's success this past season. Thomas will get a shot to start (as will Mormino and Murphy), and I'll be honest, I think Thomas will win the spot.

Ken Hilliard RB, Montana At first I did not like this pick, but the more I thought about it, the more I came around. Hilliard kind of reminds me of a FB Ireland drafted last year, Deion Anderson. He's a decent blocker, that is also a very good straight forward RB that can get the tough yards. While I don't know if this spells the end of Mauia's career in Miami, I think Hilliard has a good chance of making the team because he offers more to the offense than both Grigsby and Mauia.

Lional Dotson DT, Arizona I have talked to several fans of other teams (as well as Scott Wright of NFL Draft Countdown), and they all feel Dotson is a steal. Much like Langford, Dotson was drafted to become a DE in a 3-4. He can add some pass rushing ability from inside too (had 6 sacks as a senior). Dalton has to win the numbers game to make the team, but I think he'll make it (I see Ferguson,Starks,Holliday,Rod Wright, and Langford as locks.)

While some will hate the draft for the lack of big name players, I think we did a decent job setting the foundation for our team. The only two guys I see who aren't locks to make the team are Dotson and Hilliard, but at worst, they will start the season on the Practice Squad. Even though they are not locks, I see both making the squad. As I said earlier, Hilliard offers our offense more than either Mauia or Grigsby (and the FB is a huge part of Henning's offense). I also think Dalton might offer more to the 3-4 than some of our other Dlinemen.

I give the draft a solid B+

jim1
04-27-2008, 08:33 PM
Kendall Langford DE, Hampton Make no mistake about it, Hampton was drafted to be a DE in the 3-4. I'm not too surprised here because we've shown a lot of interest in him since the senior bowl, but probably a bit we took him a little early. He is a lot like Richard Seymour, and could be a steal for us. Also, after listening to his conference call, I like the guy. He was giddy about being drafted, and went to Hampton because of the loyalty they showed him while he waited on his SAT scores.

Scott Wright from NFLDC saw him as a potential OLB, which I thought was a bit of a reach. But it is indicative of Langford's athletic ability. Langford with Merling behind him would be a heck of a 1-2 punch in terms of run stuffing.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/kendalllangford.html

Interesting stats:

"The reason the Pirates have been successful in recent years has been the play of their defensive, led by the unheralded Kendall Langford. During his freshman year, Hampton ranked 58th in the nation in total defense (251.17 yards per game), but improved to sixth nationally in 2005 (270.92 ypg) and 15th in the Division 1-AA ranks in '06 (271.5 ypg)."

"Langford led Hampton in both sacks and tackles for losses as a sophomore and junior, when Hampton had success stopping the run. His dominance against the ground game stands out in his performances. In 234 running plays going directly at Langford during his career, the opposition managed only 63 yards, an average of 0.27 yards per attempt. In 47 games with the Pirates, the opposing team has produced just seven first-down runs on plays directed at Langford."

http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/1252360

trate121
04-27-2008, 08:37 PM
i score it a B+ too

Xeticus
04-27-2008, 09:28 PM
I love it. All our picks were focused on making us a strong ball control team. offensive line, qb, running backs, defensive line. We're going to run the ball, run it some more and then run it some more. And we're going to force them to pass. Our plan is win the battle for the clock. Definitely a B+
(Drafting Joe Flacco would have gotten them an A! :)

TulsaFan
04-27-2008, 09:40 PM
I give them a B+ to an A-

Rome wasn't built in a day, and we have used this draft to start to solidify each of our lines (Offense and Defense), and we also got a decent WR as an UDFA (Bess)

I think next year is the year that you'll see the run on players at skill positions.

I also like the Henne pick, it provides great value at the 2b slot, and I think he'll be our starting QB for years to come.

GoonBoss
04-27-2008, 09:54 PM
What did people expect Parcells was going to do? This is a vintage Parcells draft.
He's putting his fingerprints on this team.

finner
04-27-2008, 10:02 PM
Nice work...

emeraldfin
04-28-2008, 12:26 PM
Drafting two running backs was wasteful IMO.

Trading away a promising RB in Lorenzo Booker for a fourth round pick, who we drafted in the third last year. We then select two rookie RB's when we alrady have Mauia, Grigsby, Brown and Williams.

Why did we not just keep Chatman if we were looking for RB's?

RB was one of our stronger positions going into the draft and we waste two draft picks on it.

Danny
04-28-2008, 12:45 PM
If you are looking for a sexy draft, you should look else where. All but 3 of our picks went towards linemen, and even the 3 skills players we drafted are tough, gritty people. Let's start looking at the picks...

Jake Long OT, Michigan- I am a Michigan fan, so I do have a bit of a biased towards the pick, but it's hard not to like the pick. Jake fits the attitude Parcells, Ireland, and Sparano are trying to bring to the team. I'm not gonna go into great detail about Jake because we've been talking about him to death for months now. We know he'll be in camp on time, we know he'll be our starting LT, we know he's a great run blocker, and we know he's being looked as as the anchor to our line.

Phillip Merling DE, Clemson Honestly, he was probably the BPA at 32. Originally, I thought we drafted him to play DE in a 3-4 because of his strength, and his ability to stop the run. However, upon further investigation, I think he's being groomed as a SLB in a 3-4. He's very athletic for his size, and is a bit underdeveloped as a pass rusher, but he's most comfortable playing around 270. I also think that if we start the season as a 4-3 team (which I do believe is a possibility) I could see Merling starting at the strongside DE. From Clemson fans: He's not the pass rusher Gaines Adams is, but is a better all around player.

Chad Henne QB, Michigan Even as a Michigan fan and Henne supporter, I was weary of him at 32, but at 58 I was ok with the pick. If Henne ends up being our franchise QB, I think he'll do fine. His numbers in college might not be too impressive, but you have to remember that at Michigan he was rarely given an open playbook. Henne is a tough player with a high football IQ, and is also a great leader (watch any of his two minute drives in his career). At the very worst, we've got some good trade bait in a couple years.

Kendall Langford DE, Hampton Make no mistake about it, Hampton was drafted to be a DE in the 3-4. I'm not too surprised here because we've shown a lot of interest in him since the senior bowl, but probably a bit we took him a little early. He is a lot like Richard Seymour, and could be a steal for us. Also, after listening to his conference call, I like the guy. He was giddy about being drafted, and went to Hampton because of the loyalty they showed him while he waited on his SAT scores.

Shawn Murphy OG, Utah State Another Stormin Mormon to hang out with Beck. Sparano and OL coach Mike Maser apparantly love the guy. Murphy is a bit of an underrated prospect by most, but others really love his potential. He's 25 so he doesn't have as much time to develop, but he could be our starting LG come September.

Jalen Parmele RB, Toledo Once we traded Lo Booker, I knew it was only a matter of time before we drafted another RB. Although I would've preferred Hart, Parmele is not a bad runningback. He is built much like fellow Toledo alum, Chestor Taylor, who has been a very productive back for both the Ravens and the Vikings. Parmele also has deceptive speed. I could see him having a nice impact on the team next year.

Donald Thomas OG, UCONN After we picked Murphy, I was kind of shocked by this pick, but most of us on the board agreed that we should probably draft 3 offensive linemen, and we did. First team All Big-East and a big reason for UCONN's success this past season. Thomas will get a shot to start (as will Mormino and Murphy), and I'll be honest, I think Thomas will win the spot.

Ken Hilliard RB, Montana At first I did not like this pick, but the more I thought about it, the more I came around. Hilliard kind of reminds me of a FB Ireland drafted last year, Deion Anderson. He's a decent blocker, that is also a very good straight forward RB that can get the tough yards. While I don't know if this spells the end of Mauia's career in Miami, I think Hilliard has a good chance of making the team because he offers more to the offense than both Grigsby and Mauia.

Lional Dotson DT, Arizona I have talked to several fans of other teams (as well as Scott Wright of NFL Draft Countdown), and they all feel Dotson is a steal. Much like Langford, Dotson was drafted to become a DE in a 3-4. He can add some pass rushing ability from inside too (had 6 sacks as a senior). Dalton has to win the numbers game to make the team, but I think he'll make it (I see Ferguson,Starks,Holliday,Rod Wright, and Langford as locks.)

While some will hate the draft for the lack of big name players, I think we did a decent job setting the foundation for our team. The only two guys I see who aren't locks to make the team are Dotson and Hilliard, but at worst, they will start the season on the Practice Squad. Even though they are not locks, I see both making the squad. As I said earlier, Hilliard offers our offense more than either Mauia or Grigsby (and the FB is a huge part of Henning's offense). I also think Dalton might offer more to the 3-4 than some of our other Dlinemen.

I give the draft a solid B+

nice post....agree with almost everything you said but I doubt Thomas will start for us...in fact,he might go to the PS......I think Murphy have more expirience and will start at RG...so our line will be this imo.

Long-Smily-Satele-Murphy-Carey

back ups would be Mormino-Darilek-Wilson and a mad scramble for the last spot....Thomas has a shot but he's very raw...I can see him making it in a year or 2

Ozzy rules!!

Digital
04-28-2008, 02:42 PM
I give us a B-, but aside from Meuller's draft last season (the only one he actually got to pick the players), this is the only draft I've given a passing grade in so long I can't even remember. It's somewhat disappointing to let all those good CB's slide by us, but it's a nice draft.

ohenryoh
04-28-2008, 02:57 PM
I don't think Donald Thomas will start this year; the guy hasn't played a lot of football but has some impressive numbers like a sub 5 40. should develop nicely but might take a year or two.

I hated loosing LOBooker - he came on strong and was a change of pace from Brown/Williams.

Dolfan1000
04-28-2008, 04:23 PM
We didnt draft two RBs. We drafted a RB and a FB.

Booker for Fasano and Ayodele is a no brainer.

PS Dont think Hilliard's addition has nothing to do with Mauia's arrest. He could be gone.

ChambersWI
04-28-2008, 09:57 PM
We didnt draft two RBs. We drafted a RB and a FB.

Booker for Fasano and Ayodele is a no brainer.

PS Dont think Hilliard's addition has nothing to do with Mauia's arrest. He could be gone.

I do think it has part to do with that, but I also think that Hilliard was picked because Henning uses FBs a lot as runners and recievers (atleast he did with Hoover and Goings in Carolina). Neither Grigsby or Mauia are threats on offense in any way

FINOMINAL
04-29-2008, 05:59 AM
Can this defense stop Brady, Moss or Welker? Or anybody we are scheduled to play next year? I see glaring holes that were ignored. Sporano being a trenches guy, I would expect the draft to go about like it did. I think Murphy, Hilliard and Dotson are wasted picks. I’d rather trade all seventh round picks for a potential starter in the secondary. The other picks are really pretty good, so I’d say we get a B. If Henne becomes our starter, it’s an A.

BlueFin
04-29-2008, 07:11 AM
Nice writeup, but I think this was an A to A+ draft.

We got a 10+ year left tackle, stole Merling and Henne.

And while not a sexy draft, its the kind of draft that lays the foundation for the future.

It stayed true to the premise of building from the line of scrimmage out, and we still got an excellent QB prospect to compete with Beck and give us insurance there.