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LeftHanded21
07-27-2008, 07:19 PM
ive been browsing some jets forums, and it seems like most of them are ready to throw pennington out the window.


how would you feel as Farve as a jet, the thought makes me sick to my stomach.

Mannyjr23
07-27-2008, 07:22 PM
Hopefully he'll be a tampa bay buccaneer...:)

67Stang
07-27-2008, 07:24 PM
ive been browsing some jets forums, and it seems like most of them are ready to throw pennington out the window.


how would you feel as Farve as a jet, the thought makes me sick to my stomach.
Me too, I wouldn't mind 2 chances a year to bust his ace into the ground for breaking Marino's records :up:

FINS4LIFE16
07-27-2008, 07:43 PM
it would suck but on the other hand the jets would be giving up high draft picks and possibly a player or two for someone whose only gonna a play another year or so..

Vertical Limit
07-27-2008, 08:26 PM
Yeah uhm, I definitely do not want to play against Brett Favre twice a year. Say what you want to say about the guy, but he's still a great player with a lot of game in him.

BwanaZulia
07-28-2008, 08:13 AM
No every Jets fan...

Personally, while the idea is a kinda cool one, the reality is picking up a 39 year old QB and throwing him into a brand new team, scheme, playbook, players, coaches and stadium isn't going to work.

PREDICTION: If Favre leaves the Packers and starts more than 80% of the games, that team will NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!

BZ

BwanaZulia
07-28-2008, 08:14 AM
No every Jets fan...

Personally, while the idea is a kinda cool one, the reality is picking up a 39 year old QB and throwing him into a brand new team, scheme, playbook, players, coaches and stadium isn't going to work.

PREDICTION: If Favre leaves the Packers and starts more than 80% of the games, that team will NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!

BZ

nyjunc
07-28-2008, 08:33 AM
I think dolphin fans should WANT Favre to get traded to the Jets. It would be a bad move for us.

BwanaZulia
07-28-2008, 09:59 AM
I think dolphin fans should WANT Favre to get traded to the Jets. It would be a bad move for us.

It would.

BZ

BleedinGreenNC
07-28-2008, 12:15 PM
ive been browsing some jets forums, and it seems like most of them are ready to throw pennington out the window.


how would you feel as Farve as a jet, the thought makes me sick to my stomach.


Where have you been? Ive been wanting him gone for years!

ch19079
07-28-2008, 02:28 PM
The bills gave up a 1st for bledsoe and didnt get to the playoffs. Thats on the list of dumb things the bills have done. Maybe the jets will get the same result.

The only problem is that I beleive favre has a chance to take any team to the playoffs every season... even the jets. The jets have already shown in FA that they want to win now, farve would definatly help that.

BleedinGreenNC
07-29-2008, 08:01 AM
The bills gave up a 1st for bledsoe and didnt get to the playoffs. Thats on the list of dumb things the bills have done. Maybe the jets will get the same result.

The only problem is that I beleive favre has a chance to take any team to the playoffs every season... even the jets. The jets have already shown in FA that they want to win now, farve would definatly help that.


Very well put!! You live right down the road from me!

nyjunc
07-29-2008, 08:30 AM
The bills gave up a 1st for bledsoe and didnt get to the playoffs. Thats on the list of dumb things the bills have done. Maybe the jets will get the same result.

The only problem is that I beleive favre has a chance to take any team to the playoffs every season... even the jets. The jets have already shown in FA that they want to win now, farve would definatly help that.


"Even the Jets"? We were in the playoffs only 2 years ago. We have been an every other year team since 2002, we'll be BETTER w/ Chad than we would be w/ Favre.

ch19079
07-29-2008, 09:13 AM
"Even the Jets"? We were in the playoffs only 2 years ago. We have been an every other year team since 2002, we'll be BETTER w/ Chad than we would be w/ Favre.
Im looking at your team now, not 2 years ago. And i guess I could have said, even the fins, but the jets are more to the point of the conversation.

The jets would be better off with OLD chad, not the Current Chad. His carrer is basically over. It sucks, but these things happen. IMO, the jets largest problem is QB. Even with only a few months to get set, Favre would be a huge upgrade at a major position.

nyjunc
07-29-2008, 11:57 AM
Im looking at your team now, not 2 years ago. And i guess I could have said, even the fins, but the jets are more to the point of the conversation.

The jets would be better off with OLD chad, not the Current Chad. His carrer is basically over. It sucks, but these things happen. IMO, the jets largest problem is QB. Even with only a few months to get set, Favre would be a huge upgrade at a major position.


Chad pre-shoulder surgery was a top flight QB so obviously we'd be better off w/ that version of Chad but we can still win w/ the current version. I'm satisifed w/ Chad as our starter w/ the improvements we made around him.

feelthepain
07-29-2008, 08:55 PM
ive been browsing some jets forums, and it seems like most of them are ready to throw pennington out the window.


how would you feel as Farve as a jet, the thought makes me sick to my stomach.

I already think the Jets are the second best team in the division, they get Favre and they will go deep in the playoffs.

nyjunc
07-30-2008, 05:25 AM
I already think the Jets are the second best team in the division, they get Favre and they will go deep in the playoffs.

Alot of fans are mesmerized by the Favre name but dig deeper and you'll see he's basically been a medicore QB for about a decade now. Last year was his best season in 10 years and it still ended w/ an awful playoff peformance which is something we have gotten used to this decade. Favre has only been deep in the playoffs once in the weaker NFC and that was last year and they still lost as a heavy favorite at home in the title game thanks to Favre mistakes.

Remember that favre doesn't have an offseason to get acclimated to a new playbook, he's a year older, he'd cost $ and picks, he's had 1 good year in recent years and he has a 2-5 playoff record in the weak NFC this decade which includes losing at home to Atlanta and 8-8 Minnesota. Daunte Culpepper won a playoff game at lambeau, that's how bad Favre has been this decade.

Vertical Limit
08-01-2008, 03:26 AM
So what's the latest now? Is there any truth to these rumors?

Iroquois Joe
08-01-2008, 02:46 PM
I've just viewed Schein's take on the QB situation with the Jets. He feels Clemens will be the starter on opening day. I won't get into it, but for details here is the clip

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&brand=foxsports&vid=a05876f7-afac-45ad-94c5-64cec8b74c61&playlist=&editor=&from=FOXSPORTS&fg=/nfl&rf=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl (http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&brand=foxsports&vid=a05876f7-afac-45ad-94c5-64cec8b74c61&playlist=&editor=&from=FOXSPORTS&fg=/nfl&rf=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl)

I think he makes some sense here, and overall his opinions are as good or better than many of the pundits who make a living speculating in more, or sometimes less, educated ways.

Why bring in Favre who's had one spectacular year out of the last 5.

I doubt that will carry over to the Jets in a seemless transition. He makes the big play and has seen everything and more beyond any other QB in the league, so that experience alone could cover for some of his declining ability......if he was back in Green Bay.

He isn't what he once was. Last years success was likely just a spike, all your going to get is an old guy with a declining learning curve who won't relinquish his crown and a divided locker room.

Not to mention a situation where a possible heir to the postion like Clemens feels kicked to the curb. It's hard enough with the possibility of Chad having to take a back seat without bringing in the 12 million dollar man, who will, without a doubt, throw the pick that loses the most important game of the season for you at the worst time he could.

Check out Giants in overtime NFC confrence final.

#1dolphinsfan
08-01-2008, 03:15 PM
he had a hard time figuring out the Packers Playbook for the first couple of years when he got there so i think he will have a hard time Figuring out the jets playbook too

LeftHanded21
08-06-2008, 04:38 PM
NFLN say's they think it now inbetween the Bucs and the jets(leaving the Vikes out) saying the jets have a better chance of picking up Favre, but i havnt read into it....so who knows?..

SpaceMountain16
08-06-2008, 05:06 PM
I wouldn't, Favre has executed the Dolphins his whole career. I dont think it would put the Jets on top by any means, but it certainly makes them more threatening (especially to us) than if they fielded Pennington or Clemons.

dreamwalker
08-06-2008, 09:29 PM
I feel the same way now as i did when people started posting for him to come here.

Favre did what it took Blanda almost to his 50th birthday to do- break the interception record. Last year, with the help of the Dan Marino records he broke, was the rare exception to the rule. (but not by much)

He has never had a single digit interception year and 5 times in his career he has thrown over 20 for the year. Some teams are capable of winning while throwing interceptions- last year green bay was. Most teams a turnover will kill them.

Honestly the New York Media would have crucified him after his season ending interception last year. I really believe if he ends up in new york (especially) he will hang up his shoes for the last time BEFORE the end of the season.

Only in greenbay do they see Favre as a god. Most other places will see an interception as an intercpetion and not just a godly hiccup.

FINS4LIFE16
08-06-2008, 10:57 PM
The jets have offered a conditional 4th that could become a 2nd to Green Bay for Favre.

Geforce
08-06-2008, 11:00 PM
I don't care.

Dtronic
08-06-2008, 11:02 PM
We should get Farve and then trade him to the Vikings.

CitizenSnips
08-06-2008, 11:03 PM
The packers wont take anything less than a guaranteed 1st rounder and Favre doesn't wanna play for a team with potential, he wants a winner.

TableFin
08-06-2008, 11:05 PM
We should get Farve and then trade him to the Vikings.
Brilliant

Vaark
08-06-2008, 11:15 PM
We should get Farve and then trade him to the Vikings.

I'm sure any deal will stipulate a harsh penalty for re-gifting. But if not, since it's Spielman wheeling and dealing, we could probably wheedle a 1st in 09 and a 2nd the next year out of him.

FINS4LIFE16
08-06-2008, 11:19 PM
The packers wont take anything less than a guaranteed 1st rounder and Favre doesn't wanna play for a team with potential, he wants a winner.
The packers said they want a 2nd and a player from the Bucs

Greatness920
08-07-2008, 12:35 AM
he jsut got traded tonight i turned espn on and they are broadcasting it this can either be good or really bad for us cuz he might suck *** lol

heres link cuz u guys would bash me without it lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3522971

nephinsfan
08-07-2008, 12:46 AM
at least it is over. now lets sit back and wait for the "pick up pennington threads"

nephinsfan
08-07-2008, 12:48 AM
he is a jet. it is finally over.

PhinSoldia
08-07-2008, 01:35 AM
Dont you guys remember the days when we thought rent-a-QB's were a good idea?

R_t_Kraken
08-07-2008, 02:17 AM
39 yr old QB. Whole new system, whole new team, whole new everything and he has just one month to prepare all these changes. I don't see this move ending well for the Jets to be honest.

PhinSoldia
08-07-2008, 02:30 AM
39 yr old QB. Whole new system, whole new team, whole new everything and he has just one month to prepare all these changes. I don't see this move ending well for the Jets to be honest.

it wont...

right now they have a Redskin mentality when they think that spot patching the roster will make thier team great and it wont...they set thier team back at least two years...they have been laughing at us for doing it for years and now they are excited about farve doesnt make sense to me...

to Me if im Kellen Clemmons im throwing up because first i had a chance to be starter and now he will ride the bench for yet another year...and aaron rodgers feelings this year will be Clemon's next year...


they gave up a 4th that can turn into a first if he plays 80% of the time....jets fans better hope he gets injured early on because then the conversation turns into mortgaging thier future for one year when the Pats are STILL going to beat them twice and still probably go 14-2 this season...

what the Dolphins are doing is what the jets should be doing...building through the draft and getting better on the lines instead of spend spend spend because in two years your line will implode from age and your stuck with could woulda with Clemons...

no i dont think adding farve was the right thing to do for the jets im happy we are finally rebuilding and we finally get to sit back and laugh at the spot patching of another team

SpaceMountain16
08-07-2008, 02:41 AM
We should get Farve and then trade him to the Vikings.

Funny how you mention that, Green Bay actually had a clause in the trade that if the Jets re-trade to Minnesota they must forefit three first round picks to the Packers. Hilarious.

R_t_Kraken
08-07-2008, 03:13 AM
it wont...

right now they have a Redskin mentality when they think that spot patching the roster will make thier team great and it wont...they set thier team back at least two years...they have been laughing at us for doing it for years and now they are excited about farve doesnt make sense to me...

to Me if im Kellen Clemmons im throwing up because first i had a chance to be starter and now he will ride the bench for yet another year...and aaron rodgers feelings this year will be Clemon's next year...


they gave up a 4th that can turn into a first if he plays 80% of the time....jets fans better hope he gets injured early on because then the conversation turns into mortgaging thier future for one year when the Pats are STILL going to beat them twice and still probably go 14-2 this season...

what the Dolphins are doing is what the jets should be doing...building through the draft and getting better on the lines instead of spend spend spend because in two years your line will implode from age and your stuck with could woulda with Clemons...

no i dont think adding farve was the right thing to do for the jets im happy we are finally rebuilding and we finally get to sit back and laugh at the spot patching of another team

Absolutely. Agree with all you've written there.

BleedinGreenNC
08-07-2008, 07:02 AM
:woot:

The Goat
08-07-2008, 08:00 AM
This is AWESOME. What a great way to start the day. :)

(Now imagine if the worst team in the league last year BEATS the Jets Week 1. Jets fans will not be happy.)

BleedinGreenNC
08-07-2008, 08:20 AM
This is AWESOME. What a great way to start the day. :)

(Now imagine if the worst team in the league last year BEATS the Jets Week 1. Jets fans will not be happy.)


It will be a great game!! I cant wait for the season to start!

Durango_95
08-07-2008, 08:47 AM
Look at it this way, we beat the Jets in Week One, they're probably going to go 0-3 since they follow us with NE and SD.

FINSFAN2781
08-07-2008, 09:32 AM
Im sorry, but this is such an overrated move. Favre would have been much better going to TB, where their offense, while not great, is better than the Jets. The Jets have ****. The funny thing is that people think that Coles constitutes an offense. They have no RB, Jones sucks ***. Coles is always hurt, Cotchery is nothing special. A rookie TE, come on now. The Jets won 4 games last year, maybe they'll win 6 this year. It doesnt matter who they have at QB, they have no offense. Anyone who thinks the Jets are going to have a winning record and make the playoffs are in for the surprise of a lifetime. The Jets are the most overrated team going into this season. They spent over $100 mil this offseason and thats $100 mil right down the drain. I cant wait until Miami kicks the **** out of the Jets in Week 1.

nyjunc
08-07-2008, 09:40 AM
Im sorry, but this is such an overrated move. Favre would have been much better going to TB, where their offense, while not great, is better than the Jets. The Jets have ****. The funny thing is that people think that Coles constitutes an offense. They have no RB, Jones sucks ***. Coles is always hurt, Cotchery is nothing special. A rookie TE, come on now. The Jets won 4 games last year, maybe they'll win 6 this year. It doesnt matter who they have at QB, they have no offense. Anyone who thinks the Jets are going to have a winning record and make the playoffs are in for the surprise of a lifetime. The Jets are the most overrated team going into this season. They spent over $100 mil this offseason and thats $100 mil right down the drain. I cant wait until Miami kicks the **** out of the Jets in Week 1.

Tampa's O is better than the Jets???? It would have been better for him to go to Tampa b/c he knows Gruden's systm and he'd bein a wekaer conf and division but the4 jets have better skill players than TB. Coles & Cotch are better than Galloway and Hilliard, Jones & Leon are better than Graham & Dunn, our TEs w/ the addition of keller are better than theirs and our OL is now vastly improved. he has better talent around him now than he would have had in tampa.

Iroquois Joe
08-07-2008, 11:37 AM
I can hear the ghosts of Curly, Larry and Moe in their goofy Brooklynn accents....

Hey Moe, Hey coylee, we got da greetest team in da uinvoyce now

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http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10921722 (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10921722)

Vertical Limit
08-07-2008, 03:41 PM
Congrats guys. This will push you into the Wild Card and perhaps contend for division title.

Roman529
08-07-2008, 05:07 PM
I still think the Jets are a 7-9 team at best.

SpaceMountain16
08-07-2008, 05:14 PM
I still think the Jets are a 7-9 team at best.

I tend to agree, but it's more because i'm basing how they played last year and the improvements they made on how they'll play this year. They certainly do play some very winnable games. The Dolphins games, the Rams, Chiefs, and the Bills (who i think will be better) twice. Until i see how the Jets are in the regular season though, i cant say i expect them to be better than 7-9 or 8-8. But maybe they will now......

djfresh47
08-07-2008, 06:25 PM
it wont...

right now they have a Redskin mentality when they think that spot patching the roster will make thier team great and it wont...they set thier team back at least two years...they have been laughing at us for doing it for years and now they are excited about farve doesnt make sense to me...

to Me if im Kellen Clemmons im throwing up because first i had a chance to be starter and now he will ride the bench for yet another year...and aaron rodgers feelings this year will be Clemon's next year...


they gave up a 4th that can turn into a first if he plays 80% of the time....jets fans better hope he gets injured early on because then the conversation turns into mortgaging thier future for one year when the Pats are STILL going to beat them twice and still probably go 14-2 this season...

what the Dolphins are doing is what the jets should be doing...building through the draft and getting better on the lines instead of spend spend spend because in two years your line will implode from age and your stuck with could woulda with Clemons...

no i dont think adding farve was the right thing to do for the jets im happy we are finally rebuilding and we finally get to sit back and laugh at the spot patching of another team


It's a win-now league. I'm not going to say the Jets should be doing what the Dolphins are doing. Because we don't know how things will turn out with the Phins. It's obviously a short-term answer but I don't think Clemens was going to beat out Pennington. So they upgrade the position drastically. This isn't a Qb with 1 knee or a guy whose had 4 career starts. The Jets just got better and it is a short-term answer. Though it also indicates that management lost faith in Clemens being the long-term answer. So they need a young Qb to groom anyways. If they go to the playoffs I believe it'll be a 2nd rd pick. They need to go to the Super Bowl for it to be a 1st rd pick. As a Dolphins fan i'll admit the only reason they're relevant is because how awful they've been. It seems like ages since the Bills or the Dolphins have been in the playoffs. Though atleast the Jets go every other year. The Jets are obviously going for it and the move makes sense to me.

ArmyFin7
08-08-2008, 06:44 AM
Doesn't make sense to me. Favre plays 1 yr then retires again....then what? They're back to the draft board and running Clemens out there again until the guy they draft is ready. I hate the Jets so I love the trade. With Favre the Jets still are not superbowl contendors, wildcard maybe. I just seems to much like a desperate attempt for Mangini to save his job. I've seen enough of it in Miami to notice it. I'm just glad for once it wasn't us!

BleedinGreenNC
08-08-2008, 09:40 AM
Doesn't make sense to me. Favre plays 1 yr then retires again....then what? They're back to the draft board and running Clemens out there again until the guy they draft is ready. I hate the Jets so I love the trade. With Favre the Jets still are not superbowl contendors, wildcard maybe. I just seems to much like a desperate attempt for Mangini to save his job. I've seen enough of it in Miami to notice it. I'm just glad for once it wasn't us!


And if you pick up Penny, then mediocrity will set in, trust me!

nyjunc
08-08-2008, 10:33 AM
And if you pick up Penny, then mediocrity will set in, trust me!

Why would they trust you when that statement is 100% false? When Chad was healthy we made the playoffs, when he wasn't we stunk- it's as simple as that. the only real negative on Chad is his durability, if he was durable we would have a few more playoff appearances and he'd still be our QB.

djfresh47
08-08-2008, 11:09 PM
Why would they trust you when that statement is 100% false? When Chad was healthy we made the playoffs, when he wasn't we stunk- it's as simple as that. the only real negative on Chad is his durability, if he was durable we would have a few more playoff appearances and he'd still be our QB.

I think every fan gets enamored with talent. We don't look at the end results, we over-emphasize how they got there. Then if the player does not have the cannon arm we find ways to negate what they've done. The Dolphins were a much better team with Jay Fiedler when healthy. Though he didn't have the gun so we over-emphasized his mistakes. I think the same thing happens with Pennington. He doesn't make sense IMO for the Dolphins because the team around him wouldn't be good enough. An extra win IMO wouldn't be worth not getting to see what John Beck has or even Henne.

I think the Vikings would be wise to take a run at Pennington. Even as an insurance policy if they believe in Jackson.