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Deep2Evans
07-31-2008, 11:51 AM
I guess all that talk we were hearing about how well John Beck has looked and how steady Josh McCown has been and how Chad Henne was a steal was all a bunch of PR.

Seriously, how bad does your situation have to be when you have a vet, a 2nd year 2nd round pick, and another rookie 2nd round pick, yet you still have to do THIS:


Dolphins QB race reaches nadir: Quincy Carter coming in for a tryout?

The Dolphins’ quarterback situation might be even more dire than it appears after just five days of training camp.

Bill Parcells and Co. already could be examining its options.

But with most every QB ready to play in the NFL - other than Brett Favre - working out in a training camp, those options are limited.

Limited enough that the Dolphins could considering bringing in Quincy Carter, who played for Parcells in Dallas, but hasn’t played in the NFL since 2004 before he was released amid drug allegations.

Hall of Fame wide receiver Michael Irvin reported today on his radio show in the Dallas-Fort Worth area that Carter will be in Davie on Friday for a workout at the Dolphins’ training facility.

Since he left the Cowboys, Carter, 30, started three games for the New York Jets, followed by failed stints in the CFL and af2 indoor football league.

Each ended because of drug issues for Carter, who was been arrested for possession of marijuana in 2006 and 2007.

“I see Ricky Williams playing again,” Carter told the Palm Beach Post before he checked into a South Florida rehab facility in December. “I only failed one test. Ricky failed about five or six.”

Williams, 31, has violated the NFL’s substance abuse policy five times, but he’s been one of the bright spots on offense during training camp.

The Dolphins quarterbacks, on the other hand, have struggled, particularly second-year pro John Beck, who was the No. 40 pick in the 2007 draft.

Veteran Josh McCown has been solid, but rarely spectacular, while rookie Chad Henne has shown flashes of brilliance, mixed with some rookie indecision. But Beck often looks overwhelmed, forcing passes into coverage and holding onto the ball for too long before making a decision.

It seems hard to believe Carter, given his recent problems, would be much of an upgrade on any of the current Miami QBs. But 6-foot-2, 212-pound Carter is athletic, knows the offense and has proven he can win in the NFL.

Bill Parcells, the Dolphins head of football operations, inherited Carter in 2003 and watched him lead the Cowboys to a 10-win season and a playoff berth.

But Dallas released him during the 2004 training camp because of a failed drug test, beginning his downward spiral prior to his stint in rehab.

In December, following several years of disappointment, Carter sounded like a man who knew he was running out of chances. He might get another one before too long.

“I need to work on myself and I also want to get back into the NFL,” Carter said in December. “Ultimately I want to begin a new life and do the right thing.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/c...ches_nadi.html (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2008/07/30/dolphins_qb_races_reaches_nadi.html)

For you slow people:

nadir - na·dir (noun): the lowest point; point of greatest adversity or despair.

And theres still a guy here who insists the Bills are the worst team in this division. Unbelievable.

nyjunc
07-31-2008, 02:50 PM
“I see Ricky Williams playing again,” Carter told the Palm Beach Post before he checked into a South Florida rehab facility in December. “I only failed one test. Ricky failed about five or six.”


These 2 ought to be good for team chemistry:lol:

I don't think they would bring Quincy in to compete for the job, he's just another body but that quote is great.

AdamDrizzy
08-03-2008, 10:10 AM
I feel for the fins

Sounds like the Bills situation

I think Henne will be fine though...and their starter by next season

Brassmonki14120
08-03-2008, 12:24 PM
Miami has the worst QB situation in the league.

ZILLA
08-03-2008, 02:11 PM
Miami has the worst QB situation in the league.

chicago has to be close or worse...

at least we arnt 100% sure our qbs suck already

AdamDrizzy
08-03-2008, 03:37 PM
chicago has to be close or worse...

at least we arnt 100% sure our qbs suck already

I'd take Henne over Grossman too

Fin_Frenzy_84
08-03-2008, 03:44 PM
Miami has the worst QB situation in the league.


sorry i think the bears

Vertical Limit
08-03-2008, 03:47 PM
I'd take Henne over Grossman too
lol Henne is the rookie version of Grossman.

Anyways, it's not only the quarterback's, it's our receivers too. They are not creating seperation.

I really hope John Beck can pull through, I think he has loads of potential and if we give up on him so quickly, he may succeed at another team and it will bite us in the ***. With that said, it is a whole new offense he's learning again; after spending months learning the previous playbook last year like the back of his hand.

Our quarterback situation for this year does not look good at all unless Beck can step it up. I doubt Henne gets any snaps this year.

We all know what McCown is, hell his career says it all. He's garbage.

Beck right now needs a slap in the face like Ronnie got last season before he exploded. The potential is there.

PhinFan0202
08-04-2008, 03:14 AM
Yeah our QB situation is bad...really bad. But if you examine the other teams in our division they aren't great by any stretch either. Buffalo has Trent Edwards who's an up and coming QB and J.P. Losman who's probably going to be a career backup, didn't the Bills trade up for this guy? Neither are proven. The Jets have Kellen Clemmens and Chad Pennington who if you could put them together would probably be a pretty good QB. Chad has no arm left and Clemmens is unproven as well. Any other team other than the Jets wouldn't put any stock into those QBs taking them anywhere this season. New England has Tom Brady who is well...Tom Brady. As long as he's on the field they are going to be fine. He gets hurt though and they are just as vulnerable as any other team in the leauge. The Dolphins situation is by far the worst of the division but all the other teams don't have ideal situations either other than the Pats.

nyjunc
08-04-2008, 06:29 AM
Miami has the worst QB situation in the league.

I would agree if Miami was ready to make a run but they can definitely live w/ a McCown for this year and hopefully for them(not for the rest opf the division) one of their 2 young guys develops and becomes a solid QB.

Brassmonki14120
08-04-2008, 09:28 AM
Miami is worst, then KC and then Chi-town.

The reason you have to give worst to Miami is... well they just aren't good, at all.

Then the recievers they have to throw to aren't very good either, not yet anyway.

Then the O-Line hasn't had enough time to come together as a unit.

If some passer doesn't up his game the offense will go 3 and out allot and not give the O-Line any live game experience. That's gonna get whatever QB is starting hurt.

I'ld almost be willing to bet that Miami will be forced to start all three of their QBs this season because of injury or desperation.

SabanSucks
08-04-2008, 11:04 AM
I think Beck looked good at times. Basically, he looked like a rookie last year. Drafting Henne was ridiculous, and i'm sure bad for Beck's psyche.

Wagon Circler
08-04-2008, 09:10 PM
I think Beck looked good at times. Basically, he looked like a rookie last year. Drafting Henne was ridiculous, and i'm sure bad for Beck's psyche.
Ya Beck was the bills best player last year when Miami came up to Buffalo.

ih8brady
08-05-2008, 01:29 AM
lol Henne is the rookie version of Grossman.

Anyways, it's not only the quarterback's, it's our receivers too. They are not creating seperation.

I really hope John Beck can pull through, I think he has loads of potential and if we give up on him so quickly, he may succeed at another team and it will bite us in the ***. With that said, it is a whole new offense he's learning again; after spending months learning the previous playbook last year like the back of his hand.

Our quarterback situation for this year does not look good at all unless Beck can step it up. I doubt Henne gets any snaps this year.

We all know what McCown is, hell his career says it all. He's garbage.

Beck right now needs a slap in the face like Ronnie got last season before he exploded. The potential is there.


Base on what? Grossman is a POS QB, Henne is a rookie who is just getting his feet wet. what makes you think Beck has greatness and potential but Henne sucks?

ih8brady
08-05-2008, 01:30 AM
These 2 ought to be good for team chemistry:lol:

I don't think they would bring Quincy in to compete for the job, he's just another body but that quote is great.



:lol: lol, well at least Ricky can read...and I'm not talking about reading defenses(although, Carter can't do that either).

ArmyFin7
08-11-2008, 06:04 AM
Eventually the Beck lovers will realize he was just another wasted pick by Scammeron and Mueller. The McClown signing was desperation for a veteran presence.