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literatestylish
08-12-2008, 08:03 PM
I have been reading many posts on this forum about the Bills being over-hyped, and not very good because they beat the Jets and Fins 2x last season and both of those teams were horrible.

Fine.

I am willing to bet $300 with the first person who posts that they don't think the Bills make the AFC playoffs this season. Don't bet if you don't intend, or are unable, to pay.

KlausC
08-13-2008, 07:36 PM
I'll take that bet. Why don't we make it a G?

MoFinz
08-13-2008, 07:42 PM
I have been reading many posts on this forum about the Bills being over-hyped, and not very good because they beat the Jets and Fins 2x last season and both of those teams were horrible.

Fine.

I am willing to bet $300 with the first person who posts that they don't think the Bills make the AFC playoffs this season. Don't bet if you don't intend, or are unable, to pay.

wOW...300 bucks and it's only your second post.

Forgive me while i snicker at the delicious ignorance of it all.:sidelol:

ILoveTomBrady
08-13-2008, 10:02 PM
Wow. You realize that NE has about a 99% chance of winning the division, meaning that there are only two playoff spots open to Buffalo, right? When you then figure that Indy and Jax are both great bets to make the playoffs, you're betting that Buffalo gets the last spot? That's a longshot to say the least.

TomBradyWoot
08-13-2008, 10:37 PM
I'm down.

TBW FOREVER!

feelthepain
08-13-2008, 10:53 PM
I just love how it's mostly Jet and Pat fans taking the bets. It would seem back to back 7-9 seasons with the 30th ranked offense and 31st ranked defense hasn't convinced many outside Buffalo they are a good team. I read something on ESPN today calling the Bills the only team in the AFC not getting any attention, so they are poised for a "Buffalo Stampede" to the playoffs. Well we now know where this sudden busrt of bravado is coming from. funny, funny stuff.

Tetragrammaton
08-14-2008, 10:01 AM
With the Jets having Favre now, I will take that bet.

HurriPhin
08-14-2008, 01:03 PM
LOL, too bad I wasn't the first person. :lol:

xMChemicalRx
08-14-2008, 01:19 PM
Wow. You realize that NE has about a 99% chance of winning the division, meaning that there are only two playoff spots open to Buffalo, right? When you then figure that Indy and Jax are both great bets to make the playoffs, you're betting that Buffalo gets the last spot? That's a longshot to say the least.

99%?!? lol. I can't wait to see brady's bone sticking out from his arm.

djfresh47
08-14-2008, 06:58 PM
I just love how it's mostly Jet and Pat fans taking the bets. It would seem back to back 7-9 seasons with the 30th ranked offense and 31st ranked defense hasn't convinced many outside Buffalo they are a good team. I read something on ESPN today calling the Bills the only team in the AFC not getting any attention, so they are poised for a "Buffalo Stampede" to the playoffs. Well we now know where this sudden busrt of bravado is coming from. funny, funny stuff.

So if they would've ranked top 5 in offense and defense and would've went 4-12 they'd be a better team? I think the Bills will finish 2nd in the Afc East. Brett Favre is a major upgrade for the Jets. Though I think the Bills made moves to improve their team. Though it all goes out the window if they don't get Peters back into camp.

I don't get the notion of teams being guranteed to make the playoffs. Though I think the Jags are the team most likely to be able to handle a major injury. Everybody thought the Browns would be the worst team in the league and Romeo was fired after week one. Then they got lightning in a bottle in Derek Anderson. My point is the arrogance of fans automatically dismissing teams because they're not their team is funny.

SpaceMountain16
08-15-2008, 03:25 AM
The Bills probably wont make the playoffs simply because of how strong the NFC is. I think they have a good thing going there in Buffalo, as sick as it makes me, but i'm not sure that they can beat out 5-6 other teams for a wildcard spot since the Pats are pretty much a lock to win the east.

- Jax
- Ten
- Cle (who i don't really think is that good)
- Pit (perhaps if Cle actually is that good)

Maybe Denver, maybe even the Jets. Can Buffalo beat out all of these teams? I dont think so.

Wagon Circler
08-15-2008, 03:58 AM
Man this is too funny...

Get a grip, nobody is betting **** over a message board...And if you do you are a retard. Go find some friends...maybe bet with them?? Haha!

I especially think that the guy who said let's make it a G is totally delusional and quite comical...or pathetic...you decide.

Move along folks...Nothing to see here besides blatant chest pounding and people making it rain with their fake message board money.

I can put my fake money where my mouth is any time.

Clowns.

djfresh47
08-15-2008, 11:47 AM
The Bills probably wont make the playoffs simply because of how strong the NFC is. I think they have a good thing going there in Buffalo, as sick as it makes me, but i'm not sure that they can beat out 5-6 other teams for a wildcard spot since the Pats are pretty much a lock to win the east.

- Jax
- Ten
- Cle (who i don't really think is that good)
- Pit (perhaps if Cle actually is that good)

Maybe Denver, maybe even the Jets. Can Buffalo beat out all of these teams? I dont think so.

I think the Bills are in the category of those teams. Maybe not Jax or even Pitt. Though I think they're a toss-up with the Titans and Browns. I saw on PTI I believe that Pitt goes through a 4/5 game swing where they play the best of the best in the NFL.

SpaceMountain16
08-15-2008, 01:42 PM
I think the Bills are in the category of those teams. Maybe not Jax or even Pitt. Though I think they're a toss-up with the Titans and Browns. I saw on PTI I believe that Pitt goes through a 4/5 game swing where they play the best of the best in the NFL.

Well, we shall see.....Can Buffalo hang?

THAT'S WHY THEY PLAY THE GAME!

literatestylish
08-16-2008, 05:09 PM
I'll take that bet. Why don't we make it a G?

Because I dont trust anyone to actually pay up on $1,000. You were the first to agree so the bet is made.

To everyone else; i'm not looking for smack talk. I'm looking for a bet. I'll let the Bills play speak for itself.

KlausC
08-16-2008, 05:22 PM
lol - but you trust someone to pay 300? How about we do something more realistic and make a sig bet instead?

MattM
08-16-2008, 08:55 PM
They looked darn good on Thursday night, especially the O against a first ranked Steelers' D (and us w/o Jason Peters and Josh Reed). Our D was chasing Big Ben all over the field rushing only 4 and the ST scored a TD on a return. Great game all around. We may sneak up on everyone this year after all.

And those rumors today on the Pats* boards about Brady getting an MRI and not playing tomorrow night? If true, and somehow Tommy Boy doesn't play or doesn't play at 100% this year, the Patsies are f*cked, since Belicheat is too arrogant to admit that the "Matt Cassel experiment" was a huge flop and get himself a real backup QB who might be able to win more than 5 games if TB goes down.....

djfresh47
08-16-2008, 09:18 PM
They looked darn good on Thursday night, especially the O against a first ranked Steelers' D (and us w/o Jason Peters and Josh Reed). Our D was chasing Big Ben all over the field rushing only 4 and the ST scored a TD on a return. Great game all around. We may sneak up on everyone this year after all.

And those rumors today on the Pats* boards about Brady getting an MRI and not playing tomorrow night? If true, and somehow Tommy Boy doesn't play or doesn't play at 100% this year, the Patsies are f*cked, since Belicheat is too arrogant to admit that the "Matt Cassel experiment" was a huge flop and get himself a real backup QB who might be able to win more than 5 games if TB goes down.....

It's hard to say that a 7th rd draft pick whose on a roster is a flop, IMO. If Brady goes down obviously they'd be in trouble. I'm sure Colts fans would be worried if Jim Sorgi had to replace Peyton for an extended period of time also.

Durango_95
08-16-2008, 10:47 PM
Why are you so concerned about not being paid the $1000? If you win, you will have this forum to berate the person not paying up.

Don't you have enough faith in the Bills to wager a grand yourself? You opened the thread up to how well you think your team is and for anyone that disagrees with you to put up some cash.

$300 is a high school bet.

For your sake, I hope you win. It will be brutal here for you if you don't.

MattM
08-17-2008, 12:00 PM
It's hard to say that a 7th rd draft pick whose on a roster is a flop, IMO. If Brady goes down obviously they'd be in trouble. I'm sure Colts fans would be worried if Jim Sorgi had to replace Peyton for an extended period of time also.

If last week is any indication of talent levels, Cassell and Gutierrez make Sorgi look like the second coming of Johnny U, however. What's so funny is that there were other backup options available, like Leftwich, who was signed last week for the vet minimum--meanwhile BB goes and signs John Lynch as a backup safety/situational player for about double that. Go figure. That one may come back and bite the Pats in the arse big time if something happens to Tommy Boy. Who knows, maybe there is something to that karma stuff after all......

djfresh47
08-17-2008, 12:13 PM
If last week is any indication of talent levels, Cassell and Gutierrez make Sorgi look like the second coming of Johnny U, however. What's so funny is that there were other backup options available, like Leftwich, who was signed last week for the vet minimum--meanwhile BB goes and signs John Lynch as a backup safety/situational player for about double that. Go figure. That one may come back and bite the Pats in the arse big time if something happens to Tommy Boy. Who knows, maybe there is something to that karma stuff after all......


I think Leftwich can't play dead. The Patriots are good enough to still be competitive if Brady goes down. It's hard to argue with the Pats considering their success. Considering how well run the other teams in the division have been I give Belicheck the benefit of the doubt on roster moves. The Jets are an every other year thing. Though it seems like the Dolphins and Bills haven't been relevant aside from losing or mediocrity in close to 10 seasons.

MattM
08-17-2008, 11:06 PM
I think Leftwich can't play dead. The Patriots are good enough to still be competitive if Brady goes down. It's hard to argue with the Pats considering their success. Considering how well run the other teams in the division have been I give Belicheck the benefit of the doubt on roster moves. The Jets are an every other year thing. Though it seems like the Dolphins and Bills haven't been relevant aside from losing or mediocrity in close to 10 seasons.

Are you kidding? Did you watch tonight's game? If Brady goes down and they rely on Cassell, Gutierrez or O'Connell they'll be fighting the Fins for last in the AFCE, no doubt about it. While I never root for injuries (Vince Wilfork's about the only guy I'll make an exception for, that POS), I must admit it would be funny watching them get absolutely annihilated in his absence by the rest of an angry League, Buffalo included.....

literatestylish
08-17-2008, 11:10 PM
Laughable. How about I bet one dollar, oh hell let's make it ten trillion billion dollars since I, nor anybody else here will pay any real money on the lowest form of message board garbage there is. Or have I overestimated finheaven again? Hate when I do that...

I will absolutely pay if I lose the bet. I am a man of my word.

djfresh47
08-18-2008, 12:30 PM
Are you kidding? Did you watch tonight's game? If Brady goes down and they rely on Cassell, Gutierrez or O'Connell they'll be fighting the Fins for last in the AFCE, no doubt about it. While I never root for injuries (Vince Wilfork's about the only guy I'll make an exception for, that POS), I must admit it would be funny watching them get absolutely annihilated in his absence by the rest of an angry League, Buffalo included.....

I take very little from preseason games. I don't think they'll rely on those guys if Brady goes down. They'll rely on the other guys such as Maroney, Moss, Welker, Watson. Brady's a HOF player so obviously there will be a major dropoff. Though I think they'd still be able to win games.

ILoveTomBrady
08-18-2008, 11:02 PM
Are you kidding? Did you watch tonight's game? If Brady goes down and they rely on Cassell, Gutierrez or O'Connell they'll be fighting the Fins for last in the AFCE, no doubt about it.

You realize it is preseason, right? You also realize that Brady has never missed a game due to injury (the closest he's come was the 2nd half of he '02 AFCCG)?

Yeah, if Brady is down NE is screwed. I just don't see how him missing a few preseason games for precautionary reasons is a big deal. He isn't a young player who needs the preseason reps.

Moss missed the preseason games last year. He didn't look hurt once the games meant something.

HurriPhin
08-19-2008, 02:55 AM
They looked darn good on Thursday night, especially the O against a first ranked Steelers' D (and us w/o Jason Peters and Josh Reed). Our D was chasing Big Ben all over the field rushing only 4 and the ST scored a TD on a return. Great game all around. We may sneak up on everyone this year after all.

Hey now, slow down. Let's look at this "great all-around game" from another point of view.

First off, Pitt's D cannot be considered a 1st ranked unit without Palomalu on the field.

Secondly, although the Bills D did put good pressure on Big Ben & forced him into two bad throws (1 int, 1 throw away on 3rd & long) the 4 that rushed never sacked him and the seven other defensive players in coverage did an awful job allowing Big Ben to complete 9-11 passes for 142 yards and 1 TD in just 3 series.

Also don't forget that McKelvin's (2 tck, 0 int, 0 pd) TD return on special teams came late in the game (3rd Q-1:38) against 2nd -3rd -4th string players who most likely won't even be on the team come Aug. 28 and Sept. 1.

Most importantly, it's only pre-season. There won't be any sneaking around in the AFC this year.

Justasportsfan
08-19-2008, 10:46 AM
I just love how it's mostly Jet and Pat fans taking the bets. It would seem back to back 7-9 seasons with the 30th ranked offense and 31st ranked defense hasn't convinced many outside Buffalo they are a good team. I read something on ESPN today calling the Bills the only team in the AFC not getting any attention, so they are poised for a "Buffalo Stampede" to the playoffs. Well we now know where this sudden busrt of bravado is coming from. funny, funny stuff.

you talk too much. Thats all you do. You love talking down the bills but you never back it up. You always run away whenever I challenge your statments with a bet.

djfresh47
08-19-2008, 12:31 PM
Hey now, slow down. Let's look at this "great all-around game" from another point of view.

First off, Pitt's D cannot be considered a 1st ranked unit without Palomalu on the field.

Secondly, although the Bills D did put good pressure on Big Ben & forced him into two bad throws (1 int, 1 throw away on 3rd & long) the 4 that rushed never sacked him and the seven other defensive players in coverage did an awful job allowing Big Ben to complete 9-11 passes for 142 yards and 1 TD in just 3 series.

Also don't forget that McKelvin's (2 tck, 0 int, 0 pd) TD return on special teams came late in the game (3rd Q-1:38) against 2nd -3rd -4th string players who most likely won't even be on the team come Aug. 28 and Sept. 1.

Most importantly, it's only pre-season. There won't be any sneaking around in the AFC this year.

Right, where fans believe guys like Fred Russell are destined to be superstars and rookies are already labeled busts.

phins4ever64
08-19-2008, 05:15 PM
can i get in on this action-- so far i ahve this guy losing like $2100

SebasMiamiFan
09-01-2008, 09:31 PM
Even if the Pats don't have Tom Brady, the Bills are still not going to the playoffs. You guys were just as bad as were (Jets and Fins). If the Fins played you last year at our prime (Meaning no injuries and no Cameron) we would have won. The Pats would of had a 18-1 record (With a SB win due to no pressure of being perfect), had they not cheated in game 1. Jets got screwed on that game. Every team has a chance to win the SB. All four teams in the AFC East have a 25% chance to win the division. Anything can happen in football.

This is what I think...

2008
Patriots 12-4
Jets 9-7 (Wild Card)
Fins 8-8
Bills 7-9 (Again)

2009
Patriots 11-5
Jets 10-6 (Wild Card)
Fins 9-7
Bills 8-8

2010
Fins 12-4
Patriots 10-6 (Wild Card)
Jets 8-8
Bills 7-9

The future looks bright for Miami and you guys know it.

TomBradyWoot
09-01-2008, 11:14 PM
Even if the Pats don't have Tom Brady, the Bills are still not going to the playoffs. You guys were just as bad as were (Jets and Fins). If the Fins played you last year at our prime (Meaning no injuries and no Cameron) we would have won. The Pats would of had a 18-1 record (With a SB win due to no pressure of being perfect), had they not cheated in game 1. Jets got screwed on that game. Every team has a chance to win the SB. All four teams in the AFC East have a 25% chance to win the division. Anything can happen in football.

This is what I think...

2008
Patriots 12-4
Jets 9-7 (Wild Card)
Fins 8-8
Bills 7-9 (Again)

2009
Patriots 11-5
Jets 10-6 (Wild Card)
Fins 9-7
Bills 8-8

2010
Fins 12-4
Patriots 10-6 (Wild Card)
Jets 8-8
Bills 7-9

The future looks bright for Miami and you guys know it.


Ridiculous! You base this on the Bills and Jets basically not getting any better or worse, the Fins getting better and New England getting worse. Hey next time try not to be biased.:hi5:

Justasportsfan
09-05-2008, 03:28 PM
Even if the Pats don't have Tom Brady, the Bills are still not going to the playoffs. You guys were just as bad as were (Jets and Fins). If the Fins played you last year at our prime (Meaning no injuries and no Cameron) we would have won. The Pats would of had a 18-1 record (With a SB win due to no pressure of being perfect), had they not cheated in game 1. Jets got screwed on that game. Every team has a chance to win the SB. All four teams in the AFC East have a 25% chance to win the division. Anything can happen in football.

This is what I think...

2008
Patriots 12-4
Jets 9-7 (Wild Card)
Fins 8-8
Bills 7-9 (Again)

2009
Patriots 11-5
Jets 10-6 (Wild Card)
Fins 9-7
Bills 8-8

2010
Fins 12-4
Patriots 10-6 (Wild Card)
Jets 8-8
Bills 7-9

The future looks bright for Miami and you guys know it.


9-7 makes wild card? :sidelol:

milldog
09-05-2008, 03:32 PM
I have been reading many posts on this forum about the Bills being over-hyped, and not very good because they beat the Jets and Fins 2x last season and both of those teams were horrible.

Fine.

I am willing to bet $300 with the first person who posts that they don't think the Bills make the AFC playoffs this season. Don't bet if you don't intend, or are unable, to pay.

I'm sure the Bills have their own website, now, get lost. We certainly don't need your lame a## post cluttering up our board!

milldog
09-05-2008, 03:43 PM
Man this is too funny...

Get a grip, nobody is betting **** over a message board...And if you do you are a retard. Go find some friends...maybe bet with them?? Haha!

I especially think that the guy who said let's make it a G is totally delusional and quite comical...or pathetic...you decide.

Move along folks...Nothing to see here besides blatant chest pounding and people making it rain with their fake message board money.

I can put my fake money where my mouth is any time.

Clowns.

And who do you think you are coming on our boards running your mouth. You coming in here calling people pathetic. We surely wouldn't be visiting your tired teams board so head out! You are an idiot!

Justasportsfan
09-05-2008, 04:03 PM
And who do you think you are coming on our boards running your mouth. You coming in here calling people pathetic. We surely wouldn't be visiting your tired teams board so head out! You are an idiot!

lets keep FH clean ,please refrain from personal attacks please :up:

milldog
09-05-2008, 04:15 PM
lets keep FH clean ,please refrain from personal attacks please :up:

I will if he will. Apparently you didn't see that, huh?

Justasportsfan
09-05-2008, 04:18 PM
I will if he will. Apparently you didn't see that, huh?

I'm a bills fan. Obviously I don't see fellow bills fans doing anything wrong here. :D

Kinzua
09-06-2008, 03:11 PM
Even if the Pats don't have Tom Brady, the Bills are still not going to the playoffs. You guys were just as bad as were (Jets and Fins). If the Fins played you last year at our prime (Meaning no injuries and no Cameron) we would have won. The Pats would of had a 18-1 record (With a SB win due to no pressure of being perfect), had they not cheated in game 1. Jets got screwed on that game. Every team has a chance to win the SB. All four teams in the AFC East have a 25% chance to win the division. Anything can happen in football.

This is what I think...

2008
Patriots 12-4
Jets 9-7 (Wild Card)
Fins 8-8
Bills 7-9 (Again)

2009
Patriots 11-5
Jets 10-6 (Wild Card)
Fins 9-7
Bills 8-8

2010
Fins 12-4
Patriots 10-6 (Wild Card)
Jets 8-8
Bills 7-9

The future looks bright for Miami and you guys know it.

:sidelol:

If the Bills didn't have nearly half a team on IR, they might have won ten games and made the playoffs last season!!! :boohoo: The fact is that shoulda, woulda, coulda are excuses for just plain didn't. A team plays with the hand its dealt, be it injuries or poor coaching choices.

Kinzua
09-06-2008, 03:26 PM
And who do you think you are coming on our boards running your mouth. You coming in here calling people pathetic. We surely wouldn't be visiting your tired teams board so head out! You are an idiot!

Okay, so who put the burr under your tail, sweetpea? Already putting on your "game face" in anticipation for the Carp's stellar season?

FYI, this is the "Beasts of the AFC East" forum, so naturally Bills fans would show up here. If you don't like that, I suggest you don't read or post here rather than calling other posters "idiots", especially Bills fans who have been posting on this MB far longer than you have.

SebasMiamiFan
09-06-2008, 06:05 PM
AFC EAST BREAKDOWN
I Copy and pasted the original TC's breakdown, but I changed it around to what I think.
This will happen if ALL THE TEAMS PLAY GOOD with NE playing WEAKER.
This a combination of this and next year.

I'm not being biased. I believe that the Fins will be great again. I ALWAYS try to stay unbiased. The Jets blew a lot of money on players. The Bills continue to say they're a playoff team and then they never make it. The Bills will be GOOD, but the coaching will push them back for a while. The Patriots have questions now and a weakness in their defense. Teams can't be great forever and teams can't suck forever. Teams in the NFL get good or bad real fast. Maybe I'm being a little optimistic, but the future looks the brightest for the Fins. The chemistry and respect the players have for one another and the coaching staff is amazing. They are hungry for wins with a healthy Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. Ricky is not going to screw the team over again. I expect them to make it to the .500 mark because of the attitude and the coaching staff. The players are a question, but we'll have to wait to see. If the Fins go 2-0 at the beginning of the season, then I believe they MIGHT be able to defeat the Pats with an injured Brady have a good season. The Patriots weakness is in passing, which the Fins will most LIKELY not be good at this year. That is why Henne is learning because he is the future of this franchise. The Fins will beat the Bills once and the Jets once. Then they will lose once to each teams. So, 1-1 against the Jets and Buff. Probably 1-1 or 0-2 against the Pats.

Quarterbacks
NE 4
NYJ 3
MIA 2
BUF 1

Tom Brady is one of the greatest QB's to ever play. He has broken several records and has taken his team to 4 SB's, losing only 1 of them to the Giants. However, Brady has two had trouble with his ankles and he will be slowed down because of this. The Jets have Brett Farve ,a Hall of Famer, who has broken Marino's record with A LOT of TD's and INT's. He is also 38, which is VERY old for a QB in the NFL. At his age, pressure from the D can ensure a INT from him. However, the Jets O line is very solid this year, giving Farve a lot of time to aim and fire to their good WR's. Pennington was a HUGE upgrade over McCown and Beck. Henne is still learning as a rookie. CP has the highest completion percentage in the NFL, but he has what is called a "Noodle Arm" because of injuries. However, the Fins are a ? in their WR's, so that really doesn't make a HUGE difference in the team. CP is also one of the smartest QB's in the league.

In Buffalo, Trent Edwards was a GREAT QB in his rookie year despite having a wrist injury and losses in the last 3 games of last years' season. He is definitely the future of the Bills franchise. The Bills went 7-9 and were second place because of beating the 1-15 Fins and the 4-12 Jets twice. It will not be like that this year, however. TE will lead the Bills to a SB, so don't count them out. They still remain the only AFC East to NEVER win a SB. The Fins and Jets haven't won in almost 40 years.

Running Backs
MIA 4
NYJ 2
BUF 2
NE 1

This is a very tough decision. Lynch proved to be a very tough runner and when he was injured, while Fred Jackson stepped in and played very well. NE didn't use Maroney a lot last year because they loved to pass. I think Lamont Jordan is a SOLID player.

Miami probably has the best RB's. Ricky Williams is in the best shape of his life and is in his 2002 form. Ronnie Brown is coming an injury, but he has proven that he can play as a starter. Ronnie and Ricky will be sharing the runs, according to the coaching staff, hence the "R&R Express." Thomas Jones is a decent back who runs hard but is nothing special. Washington is a very good change of pace back but doesn't get enough carries to be a major player.

Wide Receivers
NE 4
NYJ 3
BUF 2
MIA 1

The Patriots are clearly the winners here. Moss and Welker have become on of the best duo's in the NFL. Coles and Cotchery are also very solid duo in their own right, but they are not play makers. Lee Evans is the 2nd best receiver in the division but he has had little help. Hardy could be a beast, but he is still a rookie and has a lot to prove. Miami could have scored higher here, but they remain a ? in this position. Ginn may have a breakout season this year because CP and Ginn seem to be like TB and Moss.

Tight Ends
NE 4
NYJ 3
BUF 2
MIA 1

This is the WORST position by far in the division. Watson is pretty good, but he still drops a lot of balls. Between Keller, Franks, and Baker, the Jets have some solid players but no real stars. However, Keller could become a star. Buffalo's TEs are bad, but they may improve. The TE's in Miami are improving, but they are not going to be great this season.

Offensive Line
NE 4
BUF 3
NYJ 2
MIA 2

This is the MOST improved area in the AFC East. If you have a record setting offense, the O-Line will get all the credit. Miami and the Jets have improved immensely, but they have yet to prove themselves. Chemistry takes time to develop, so don't expect break out seasons from them. That's why I rate Buffalo's ahead of them both. CP has had very few sacks and has had time to make big plays. Jake Long, the first round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, will make A LOT of openings for MIA's RB's. All 4 teams have solid units. The Jets and MIA are tied. MIA may have the best O-Line after next year's draft, however. Wait and see.

Defensive Line
NE 4
BUF 3
NYJ 3
MIA 3

MIA wins this because Parcells is a Defense genius. NE had one of the best D-lines in football, but age is starting to catch up with them, they are however addressing this issue. The Bills have a pro bowler in Schobel; a former pro bowler in Stroud; and run 2 deep at every position. Jenkins, IMO, isn't what he used to be and is playing a new position. However, he still is an upgrade though the rest of the D-line is pretty average. Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas are gone, but they have definitely been replaced. Miami's D-Line led this year's Pre-Season in sacks with the 3-4 Defense. They were Terrific this Pre-Season. Miami has more to prove, but they will become the best in this division.

Linebackers
MIA 4 (If they prove themselves)
BUF 3
NYJ 3
NE 3


This one is really close. NE would've won this one, but they are fading fast. They were a disaster in the Pre-Season, even though most say the Pre-Season means nothing. Mayo probably will be a great player, but they are very old everywhere else. Buffalo and NYJ are almost identical. I think Poz and Harris will both have really good careers. However, I like the experience of the Bills other LBs (Mitchell and Crowell) over the potential of the Jets. And I think Pace got paid way too much money when he was a borderline bust for most of his career. Miami's LB are the pride and joy of their defense, making them tied for 1st in this comparison. The 3 teams will be in long competition for the best at this spot. However, with BP in charge, Miami will win this one in years to come.

Secondary
NYJ 4
BUF 3
NE 2
MIA 1


Again, another very difficult group to rate. Neither of these groups are that impressive, but there is a lot of potential. Buffalo and the Jets are basically even, but I give the Jets the edge because I think Rhodes is the best d back in the division. The bills have a very young group that has a lot of potential. Samuel was a huge loss and Harrison is a year older. Miami's Secondary has a lot to prove, but they have not played a real game yet.

Special Teams
BUF 4
MIA 3
NYJ 2
NE 1


Buffalo has a good kicker, great punter, and really good returners. The Jets have a good return game and Nugent is a pretty good kicker. Ginn will be the pride and joy of Miami. Carpenter is one of the most accurate kickers I know. When he kicks, your almost guaranteed a FG. NE is just good here.

FINAL SCORES:
NE 27
BUF 24
NYJ 25
MIA 19 :foundout:

New England Patriots: (12-4) :boohoo:
After almost making history and going 18-1, the Patriots are not going to be as great as last year. They are going to be winners of the AFC East. However, they better watch out because every team in their division is hungry for some wins and are much more improved. Tom Brady's injury and a loss of key players will put them in a fragile 1st place spot in the division. However, they have the easiest schedule in the league and will still dominate teams with their offense.

Miami Dolphins: (8-8) :unsure:
The Dolphins last year had a lot of trouble swimming. With the poor coaching, injuries, bad drafting for a decade, and nice attitude, the Fins were destined to fall 0-16 or 1-15. As you can see, Miami has improve A LOT. Teams are going to underestimate the Fins and will be taught a lesson. The coaching staff is almost perfect and the win or lose your job attitude has made this team hungry for wins. The team is full of young players who will make several mistakes this season. CP brings leadership and will mentor the team to greatness. Most of the positions on this team are a ?, but this team is definitely being built for the future. This team remains in last place in the Division on my list this year.

Buffalo Bills (10-6) :rolleyes2:
The Bills may actually be right this time and ram their way into the playoffs through the Wild Card, but that may not happen. However, for the last couple of years, they still remain a solid hopeful playoff team, but they never seem to make it. TE may have a breakout season and may actually lead the team to the playoffs. Due to the coaching staff, I think this team will be pushed back from the playoffs in the future or maybe now. However, they will almost always be a solid team in the AFC East.

New York Jets: (9-7) :foundout:
They're pretty much in the same situation as the Dolphins. Only winning 3 more games then the Fins, the Jets had a plane crash last year. They can go either way this year. They are tied with the Fins if they play a little choppy . They are a win a SB now team, but that will not happen. Saban did the same thing to the Fins and that led them into a disaster.

The Fins have won 2 SB in 1972 and 1973. The Jets have won 1 SB in 1968. The Bills have never won a SB. The Pats have won the SB in 2001, 2003, and 2004. The Fins have the highest win percentage in the NFL and remain the only team to remain perfect. The Jets have not really accomplished much in 40 years. The Bills have made it to the playoffs a lot and are fighting to return to their former selves. As are the Dolphins. The Patriot's dynasty is pretty much over, so it's going to be a VERY competitive AFC East this year.

The Future looks bright for the AFC EAST and it will become a tough division in the future. Probably even the best in the years to come. :woot:


Who do you think will win the division this year? Will it be close?

TomBradyWoot
09-06-2008, 06:22 PM
MIA wins this because Parcells is a Defense genius. NE had one of the best D-lines in football, but age is starting to catch up with them. The Bills have a pro bowler in Schobel; a former pro bowler in Stroud; and run 2 deep at every position. Jenkins, IMO, isn't what he used to be and is playing a new position. However, he still is an upgrade though the rest of the D-line is pretty average. Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas are gone, but they have definitely been replaced. Miami's D-Line led this year's Pre-Season in sacks with the 3-4 Defense. They were Terrific this Pre-Season. Miami has more to prove, but they remain the best in this division.




I basically disagree with most everything you said because it was so anti-Patriots that its hard to even take this with a grain of salt. That said I figured I'd only slam part of it instead of ripping the whole thing up. The Patriots D-line is getting old? Seymour 28 Ty Warren 27 Vince Wilfork 26. Miami has the best D-line in the division? Are you serious? Please, tell me you're just joking. Parcells isn't even the Dolphins coach, and when did he become a defensive genius?

SebasMiamiFan
09-06-2008, 06:36 PM
I basically disagree with most everything you said because it was so anti-Patriots that its hard to even take this with a grain of salt. That said I figured I'd only slam part of it instead of ripping the whole thing up. The Patriots D-line is getting old? Seymour 28 Ty Warren 27 Vince Wilfork 26. Miami has the best D-line in the division? Are you serious? Please, tell me you're just joking. Parcells isn't even the Dolphins coach, and when did he become a defensive genius?
It's not Anti-Patriots. I tried VERY hard to be unbiased, but the AFC East is just improving very fast. The future looks bright for all the teams, Miami more IMO. Miami's D-Line is a ?, I meant to say that if they are solid, they will have the best D-Line. Everything with Miami is a ?, except RB. This is what will happen if all the teams are playing at their best with the Patriots getting a little worse. They will still be a solid, but they will not be dominating forever.

It's my opinion, so get over it.

literatestylish
09-14-2008, 04:23 PM
Anyone getting worried about their bets?

literatestylish
10-19-2008, 04:33 PM
Anyone on here want to start apologizing for attacking me?

5-1.

Crisis
10-19-2008, 04:52 PM
hahahaha

pro bump

Finch83
10-19-2008, 07:52 PM
So what if the Bills make the playoffs. They arent winning ANY Super Bowls anytime soon...and thats all that matters.

Deep2Evans
10-19-2008, 09:36 PM
So what if the Bills make the playoffs. They arent winning ANY Super Bowls anytime soon...and thats all that matters.


Glad you can see into the future. I bet you had the Giants winning the superbowl last year too, right?

WVDolphan
10-19-2008, 11:40 PM
Wow. Unless the Jets come back to win the division, the Colts lock down a playoff spot, and someone else steps up in a hurry, the Bills are more or less a lock to make the playoffs. The phins could always storm in, sweep the Bills and sneak in there themselves, hell its anyones race right now. But, the Bills have a very strong chance given that alot of teams already have 3 losses in the AFC.

#1dolphinsfan
10-19-2008, 11:48 PM
Ok they have a Division to win with a Crapy Dolphins team and Crapy jets team and a Crapy Pats team they should win this division easy and be in the playoffs

MoFinz
12-14-2008, 06:59 PM
I just gotta bump this, cuz i gotta know......where is this guy and is he gonna be paying up?

BUMP^

PhinzN703
12-14-2008, 07:02 PM
Anyone on here want to start apologizing for attacking me?

5-1.

I didn't attack you but it's still funny how idiotic you look right about now. Ahhh the internet, reminding us of mistakes we made in the past

MarinePhinFan
12-14-2008, 07:47 PM
This thread makes me laugh.

And to all the Pats, Bills and Jets fans that posted here. HAHA at you too.

Finch83
12-14-2008, 09:50 PM
Glad you can see into the future. I bet you had the Giants winning the superbowl last year too, right?
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

How could we forget this gem of a thread.:lol:

The Bills = EPIC FAIL

Deep2Evans
12-14-2008, 09:57 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

How could we forget this gem of a thread.:lol:

The Bills = EPIC FAIL


You're so smart. You called the Bills NOT winning the superbowl. You should apply for a job with ESPN/CBS as an analyst. Maybe we can even get you on the Pre game shows, so you can make your predictions live on TV too.

MarinePhinFan
12-14-2008, 10:07 PM
You're so smart. You called the Bills NOT winning the superbowl. You should apply for a job with ESPN/CBS as an analyst. Maybe we can even get you on the Pre game shows, so you can make your predictions live on TV too.


And I'm sure you predicted, although probably won't be man enough to admit it, that the Bills would make the playoffs.

Oh, yeah...Once again, HAHA! :D

Smex
12-15-2008, 05:19 AM
You're so smart. You called the Bills NOT winning the superbowl. You should apply for a job with ESPN/CBS as an analyst. Maybe we can even get you on the Pre game shows, so you can make your predictions live on TV too.
Your team fails. A website dedicated to the buffalo bills. (http://www.thefailwebsite.com/)

LtDan
12-15-2008, 05:37 AM
Anyone on here want to start apologizing for attacking me?

5-1.
nope.....even though I didn't attack you:lol:

How's that 5-1 record working for you now??

Finch83
12-15-2008, 07:18 AM
You're so smart. You called the Bills NOT winning the superbowl. You should apply for a job with ESPN/CBS as an analyst. Maybe we can even get you on the Pre game shows, so you can make your predictions live on TV too.

Hey I would like that idea.

BUt in all seriousness I DID in fact say that I wasnt sold on the Bills AT ALL even though they were 4-0. They were complete frauds with a lame duck coach. As long as Dick Jauron is there I will never be worried about BLow.

JCane
12-15-2008, 07:27 AM
http://www.bodoglife.com

PUT YOU MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS SUCKA!

Don't come here on a message board looking for Internet chumps to place some "real" wagers with. I highly doubt that a prop bet on the Bills making the playoffs was ever available on BoDog, but I'm sure that if you call them up and pound your chest the way you did here, they will gladly take your money.

What a gutterball you are man lol. Seriously? You came HERE to place wagers with the first take and then gloat about a 5 - 1 record when you're still not sure who the Bills even are? You know dickhole about gambling. And none of this even matters because I bet this redneck doesn't come back to this epic fail of a thread again.

Put your hands in your pockets and go back to your trailer in the hills meatball.

CattailsrEdible
12-21-2008, 02:08 AM
bump:sidelol:

Roman529
12-22-2008, 04:40 AM
Hope he is man enough to pay up.

Dolpfan_72
12-22-2008, 04:47 AM
"but...I swear. The check is in the mail. Honest." :lol:

rickfinsfan
01-22-2009, 01:28 AM
Anyone on here want to start apologizing for attacking me?

5-1.

To bad the season is not a sprint but a marathon.