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elite14eva
09-07-2008, 05:54 PM
http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/archives/2008/09/jets-assuming-torn-acl.html

Bonedoc7777
09-07-2008, 05:57 PM
base upon the video, his ACL was injured, they also did a test on the field called Lachmans which can almost tell you immediately if it is torn, he could not put weight on his leg, so it is either torn or a grade two partial, six weeks to the season for brady

dolfan19
09-07-2008, 05:57 PM
You gotta love this line...

"I don't really want to get into it, but me personally, I think it was dirty," Moss said


I don't want to get into, but..I'm going to anyway. Idiot. Lol.

newlife2788
09-07-2008, 06:00 PM
I was watching the game and he looked to be into some serious pain i'm guessing partial torn ACL.

Bonedoc7777
09-07-2008, 06:02 PM
parcells has always said, THE CIRCUS DOES NOT STAY IN TOWN FOREVER, and that is starting to apply to new england now, they had there time, but it is now over for good, that opens the door for everyone else

jetsman
09-07-2008, 06:02 PM
Now Moss knows how the other teams feel when Wilfork and his cronies take a cheap shot at their QB!:lol:

Vertical Limit
09-07-2008, 06:07 PM
If he has a torn ACL, I hope he does the right thing and take the season off, work and rehab hard and comes back to form next season.

It'll be a shame if another quarterback's career ends because of an injury like this. Although his is probably not as severe, but Daunte Culpepper is an example of a QB that didn't do enough to get back to form.

Brady is a great QB, he needs to do what's right for his franchise.

#1dolphinsfan
09-07-2008, 06:07 PM
That will suck for the Pats if that happens i dont think they will make the play offs

jtsacksyou
09-07-2008, 06:15 PM
without brady they almost lost to the chiefs.. this shakes up the afc east a little and gives hope to the jets and bills.

Roman529
09-07-2008, 06:17 PM
I am sorry to hear this. You never want to see anyone get hurt, especially one of the best QB's in the league. I watched the play...I wouldn't say it was dirty but it did look like the defender went for his knee. Without Brady the Pats look pretty average but they have a really easy schedule.

phinman1
09-07-2008, 06:20 PM
I am sorry to hear this. You never want to see anyone get hurt, especially one of the best QB's in the league. I watched the play...I wouldn't say it was dirty but it did look like the defender went for his knee. Without Brady the Pats look pretty average but they have a really easy schedule.

Sure you do. Especially Brady.

thejetssuck
09-07-2008, 06:23 PM
I'm sorry, but how in the world would the jets know ahead of everyone else as to whether TB has a torn ACL?

satz
09-07-2008, 06:26 PM
I'm sorry, but how in the world would the jets know ahead of everyone else as to whether TB has a torn ACL?
how funny it would be if he shows up for next week.

Cobra84
09-07-2008, 06:32 PM
I'm sorry, but how in the world would the jets know ahead of everyone else as to whether TB has a torn ACL?
I'm sure Mangini still has a few friends that work for the Patriots.

Kthurmus23
09-07-2008, 06:33 PM
I think it is wishfull thinking on the Jets part. However I would not be surprised if it was a ACL. Just dont see how the Jets would be the first to know.

#1dolphinsfan
09-07-2008, 06:43 PM
with tom brady gone if he is the bills IMO will win the AFC east

SpaceMountain16
09-07-2008, 06:44 PM
It's quite ironic after all those games where Tom Brady was playing in the 4th quarter with 40 point leads that the injury that would put him out for the season would come in the first quarter.

Pitbull13
09-07-2008, 06:56 PM
without brady they almost lost to the chiefs.. this shakes up the afc east a little and gives hope to the jets and bills.
and us to make the playoffs. :d-day:

Roman529
09-07-2008, 06:59 PM
Sure you do. Especially Brady.

I don't have any love at all for the Patriots, but you never want to wish any player gets injured. :rolleyes:

Dors156
09-07-2008, 07:01 PM
The Pats without Brady will be a 5-6 win team. We could actually finish in front of them in the division. If Brady has a torn acl, it gives these other teams the chance to fight for the top spot.

Nublar7
09-07-2008, 07:36 PM
It appears Brady's season is over:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlFqz.5tgR7WmOYI9Q7QPkhDubYF?slug=ms-bradyoutforyear090708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

dol-fan1313x
09-07-2008, 07:38 PM
just saw it on pft

SebasMiamiFan
09-07-2008, 07:39 PM
The Patriots are in for a rude awakening. After todays games, I think we have a huge chance against the Pats, SD, and the Seahawks. Especially Seattle because they are a playoff team and they lost to the Bills:sidelol:

elite14eva
09-07-2008, 07:42 PM
wow didn't see that coming

SebasMiamiFan
09-07-2008, 07:43 PM
Going 18-1 and then 5-11. That will be a dream come true.

dol-fan1313x
09-07-2008, 07:44 PM
PFT brady DONE

MiamiDolfan85
09-07-2008, 07:44 PM
You gotta love this line...

"I don't really want to get into it, but me personally, I think it was dirty," Moss said


I don't want to get into, but..I'm going to anyway. Idiot. Lol.
even though I thanked your post...:up:...I dont appreciate you having my girl Jeanie on your avatar....:shakeno:

Nublar7
09-07-2008, 07:45 PM
Injuries are a part of the game, and I never wish this on any one. I don't care if it is the most hated player in the division, this is sad news. I was heart broken last year when Ronnie tore his ACL, so I can only imagine what Patriot fans are feeling.

I know nothing has been officially confirmed, but it sounds like it may be potentially a "Daunte" type injury.

ZachThomas76
09-07-2008, 07:48 PM
i guess all the guys laughing at me for passing on Brady and taking Brees a round later arent laughing at me anymore. easy money.

TheChadIsGreat
09-07-2008, 07:48 PM
how funny it would be if he shows up for next week.

Look at this photo. I think it tells you what the chances of that are.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2008/09/nfl_a_brady_400-1.jpg

Raoul Duke
09-07-2008, 07:48 PM
thats def bad news for the pats and for brady.

67Stang
09-07-2008, 07:49 PM
Brady is a class act who happens to play for the wrong team. You don't wish that on anyone. The dude is a 6th rounder that worked his butt off to get where he is. Anybody who is happy about a dude going down like that needs to take a good look in the mirror.

phinfan40353
09-07-2008, 07:50 PM
Wow... the "Super Bowl Letdown" is gaining as much credibility as the "Madden Curse". For one reason or another, Super Bowl losers just can't manage to get back to the playoffs. (Except Seattle)

Nublar7
09-07-2008, 07:50 PM
That Yahoo! story just updated. It is confirmed that he has a torn ACL.

enduro
09-07-2008, 07:51 PM
http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/archives/2008/09/jets-assuming-torn-acl.html

This is the greatest news i have heard in a while. this makes today's defeat much easier. i think i am going to throw a party. and bye the way i could give a crap if he ever plays again. He has been so lucky/good for so long it's about time. i'm sure the pats fans said the same thing when marino tore his achilles tendon. party

TheChadIsGreat
09-07-2008, 07:51 PM
The Pats without Brady will be a 5-6 win team. We could actually finish in front of them in the division. If Brady has a torn acl, it gives these other teams the chance to fight for the top spot.

Now THAT'S funny.

kilgore Trout
09-07-2008, 07:51 PM
I'm sorry, but how in the world would the jets know ahead of everyone else as to whether TB has a torn ACL?

Secret Cameras.

SpaceMountain16
09-07-2008, 07:52 PM
I just dropped him for Trent Edwards in my fantasy league :(

dol-fan1313x
09-07-2008, 07:53 PM
Trent Dilfer Reports

enduro
09-07-2008, 07:54 PM
Brady is a class act who happens to play for the wrong team. You don't wish that on anyone. The dude is a 6th rounder that worked his butt off to get where he is. Anybody who is happy about a dude going down like that needs to take a good look in the mirror.

yeah sure! i feel sorry for a millionaire that dates super models. come on.

ZachThomas76
09-07-2008, 07:54 PM
with tom brady gone if he is the bills IMO will win the AFC east

no way. the Bills are terrible. feelthepain said so, the Bills looked terrible today didnt they?

MiamiDolfan85
09-07-2008, 07:55 PM
you people who are actually happy about Brady's injury are just evil....yes...I know what this means for the rest of the teams in the AFC East,and especially for the Dolphins...but being thankful for a guy whos leg was TWISTED....you just dont deserve the privledge of being an human being...:shakeno:

jazz
09-07-2008, 07:55 PM
you hate to see anyone get injured and it sucks for them, but heck, we had a ton of people lost to injury last year. crap happens.

FINFANinJETLAND
09-07-2008, 07:55 PM
good

Flip Tanneflop
09-07-2008, 07:55 PM
This makes todays loss so much bigger for us now.

Its anyones division to win.

The fact that the Patsies only beat the PATHETIC cheifs by a score tells me they will have a tough time winning 10 games. Its anyone's division.

The Jets just put themselves in the early drivers seat with a tough road divisional win.

We have to get that one back. If we wind up winning 8 or 9 games, and I think we can, we will be looking back on this one and kicking ourselves. We could go up there in the final week and have to play for the division title with both teams 9-6. Who knows.

I say if we fall one game short we blame the whole thing on Ronnie for making us burn that TO that theoretically couldve cost us the game....:lol:

Bonedoc7777
09-07-2008, 07:56 PM
this is why you never say you are rebuilding, because one injury puts your team in the hunt, the phins need to win this week and stay in the hunt in this division

Kiick72
09-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Secret Cameras.

:lol:

Well Trout you gotta like your chances now.

FINFANinJETLAND
09-07-2008, 07:56 PM
i hate to see anyone get hurt, but i love seeing tom brady get hurt!

enduro
09-07-2008, 07:57 PM
you people who are actually happy about Brady's injury are just evil....yes...I know what this means for the rest of the teams in the AFC East,and especially for the Dolphins...but being thankful for a guy whos leg was TWISTED....you just dont deserve the privledge of being an human being...:shakeno:

i was happy when thiesman leg got "twisted" also.

DolfanDaveInATX
09-07-2008, 07:59 PM
Knowing the Patriots, Tom Brady will be listed with an injured lower body - questionable.

Miami 13
09-07-2008, 07:59 PM
I was very happy to hear this news.

Flip Tanneflop
09-07-2008, 08:00 PM
Any chance the Patsies would like to part with a 7th rounder for JOHN BECK.......:lol: LMFAO!!! Wouldnt it be great to send them Beck and Casel go down and they ACTUALLY HAVE TO PLAY BECK!!!! Against us too!! :lol: It would be great!!

ZachThomas76
09-07-2008, 08:00 PM
this is why you never say you are rebuilding, because one injury puts your team in the hunt, the phins need to win this week and stay in the hunt in this division

huh?

Kiick72
09-07-2008, 08:00 PM
you hate to see anyone get injured and it sucks for them, but heck, we had a ton of people lost to injury last year. crap happens.


That is true. No one wants to see anyone get injured in a way to end their season, but I didn't see anyone crying us a river last year with all the knee injuries we had and not to mention Bells Achilles.

Bagga-Viagra
09-07-2008, 08:00 PM
I remember how I felt the year Marino popped his achilles, so part of me definitely sympathizes with Pats fans. Maybe now theyll appreciate how fortunate they are to have someone like Brady.

KTownsDolphins
09-07-2008, 08:02 PM
Here are my thoughts

Vinny was on the couch watching the game Sunday and saw what happened and he immediately picked up a football started throwing it around in the backyard.

Parcells has picked up the phone and offered Beck for Welker straight up.

67Stang
09-07-2008, 08:06 PM
yeah sure! i feel sorry for a millionaire that dates super models. come on.

I didn't say to feel sorry for him. I said anybody happy that it happened needs to look in the mirror. Crap happens to everyone, but to be happy about it is just wrong.

armylax54
09-07-2008, 08:07 PM
I thought the Pats were gonna break the Super Bowl losers curse but now idk if that's gonna happen.

Myles Fynch
09-07-2008, 08:07 PM
This is going way back, but when I saw the replay on tv it reminded me of when LeRoy Selmon of the Bucs hit Bob Griese low in an otherwise meaningless preseason game. Leg got rolled up on and body kind of bends backward awkwardly. No true football fan wants to see it happen to anybody after it's happened to one of your own.

I wish Brady a complete and speedy recovery--and the Patriots a nightmarish 2008 that makes our 1-15 year look like the Perfect Season.

67Stang
09-07-2008, 08:10 PM
Wow, this means an 8 win team could come out of the AFC east to make the play offs.

Thundercracker
09-07-2008, 08:10 PM
It's about time.

Danny
09-07-2008, 08:10 PM
I hope the pats lose every game but even without him I doubt they'll only win 5 or 6 games like someone else said...I doubt they'll win the east but they'll win more than 6 games.

Ozzy rules!!

Zandimd
09-07-2008, 08:10 PM
imo if brady is out for the year the pats will sign another qb possibly daunte culpooper

fgrocker
09-07-2008, 08:12 PM
This screams super bowl loser jinx!!!

csabe
09-07-2008, 08:14 PM
That changes the landscape of the AFC....

FINFANinJETLAND
09-07-2008, 08:15 PM
imo if brady is out for the year the pats will sign another qb possibly daunte culpooper

hahah YES!

kilgore Trout
09-07-2008, 08:15 PM
:lol:

Well Trout you gotta like your chances now.

Well, this certainly plays a role, but I don't wish Brady an injury (even though I hate his guts and he is ghey) and I would have liked the chance to beat the Pats with Tommy boy.

That said, even without TB, it's not a gimme, look what happened today against the fins.

Daytona Fin
09-07-2008, 08:16 PM
Brady is a class act who happens to play for the wrong team. You don't wish that on anyone. The dude is a 6th rounder that worked his butt off to get where he is. Anybody who is happy about a dude going down like that needs to take a good look in the mirror.

i took a look and yep im still happy

SigmaOmega
09-07-2008, 08:18 PM
Wow, this means an 8 win team could come out of the AFC east to make the play offs.


Playoffs!? You wanna talk about Playoffs!? LOL

milldog
09-07-2008, 08:18 PM
Funny thing tody while I was in the men's room a NE fan commented to me that their line is so good anyone could step in and win. Told me Cassell will take them to the Super Bowl. Funny stuff!

Dors156
09-07-2008, 08:18 PM
I hate Tom Brady and all but I feel incredibly bad for Pats fans. I felt so miserable when I found out Ronnie Brown was done due to acl. Im sure they feel much worse because Brady means more to that franchise than Brown did to us. The division is up in the air. Todays win would of been so huge but we have 15 games and we can see if our team has the heart to go get something we havent gotten in a while. A division title.

jtsacksyou
09-07-2008, 08:19 PM
Any chance the Patsies would like to part with a 7th rounder for JOHN BECK.......:lol: LMFAO!!! Wouldnt it be great to send them Beck and Casel go down and they ACTUALLY HAVE TO PLAY BECK!!!! Against us too!! :lol: It would be great!!
no he would some how become good.

dolpns13
09-07-2008, 08:21 PM
wait, so is he out for the year, or isnt he?

FINFANinJETLAND
09-07-2008, 08:24 PM
wait, so is he out for the year, or isnt he?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl;_ylt=AiA1mHZFMfcANMpRE9oIHgo5nYcB

The Franchise
09-07-2008, 08:24 PM
HA! F him.

dolpns13
09-07-2008, 08:28 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl;_ylt=AiA1mHZFMfcANMpRE9oIHgo5nYcB

serves that SOB and the Ratriots org right for cheating.. here comes 1-15 for the rats...Kharmas a *****

kizzaboo
09-07-2008, 08:31 PM
Any chance the Patsies would like to part with a 7th rounder for JOHN BECK.......:lol: LMFAO!!! Wouldnt it be great to send them Beck and Casel go down and they ACTUALLY HAVE TO PLAY BECK!!!! Against us too!! :lol: It would be great!!

You are truly obsessed. You have my pity.

Storm54
09-07-2008, 08:35 PM
Feel sorry for Pats fans?? Screw that noise, dont remember any of them coming in here giving condolences when we lost RB for the season. Sure I feel bad for Brady as a person getting injured, but as a football player for a rival of my team....not so much. As someone has already said in the thread Karma....gets ya everytime. It's about time it got them.

phins#1fan
09-07-2008, 08:36 PM
without brady they almost lost to the chiefs.. this shakes up the afc east a little and gives hope to the jets and bills.

What about us?.. lol

JT-forpresident
09-07-2008, 08:42 PM
F those F-ers.... with all the luck they have, i just hope it's not "bledsoe-gets-hurt-and-a-noname-emerges" situation again ...

JC
09-07-2008, 08:47 PM
That changes the landscape of the AFC....

I was telling my step dad that. He was watchin the Sunday night game and i said wow, theres going to be a new force in the AFC this year, and he just pointed to the tv at the colts. Could it be a Manning Trifecta?! I would honestly love to see that.

Mia305FinMan
09-07-2008, 08:50 PM
F Tom Brady and the cheating Pats! After all the chit they pull, why would anyone feel bad?

wackyd
09-07-2008, 08:51 PM
Why of all the football related things I wished for this weekend did THAT had to be the one that came true? Oh well, I've only been asking for this one for 4 years now.

Ive always thought Brady was completely overrated. This will finally prove me an idiot or prove me right. I've always said anyone could step in to the pats offense and have them win 10 games. He's just always gotten 100% of the credit for the success and I think that's BS. As much as I loathe the pats they been a complete unit.

67Stang
09-07-2008, 09:05 PM
i took a look and yep im still happy

You are in my prayers brother

DolfanChris06
09-08-2008, 01:11 AM
lmfao just luck Tom the lord works in masterious ways lol! comeon u know we all rooted to see him crushed in The BIG BOWL lol no maybe he can pay his child support! as you can see not a preety boy brady fan.

Phin_Owl_83
09-08-2008, 01:35 AM
Brady's out for the year...*sigh*...what a shame :P

Vertical Limit
09-08-2008, 03:31 AM
I'm embarrassed by some of the fans here. Just pathetic. The guy is a human being first; being a football player is his job. Don't start taking cheap shots at the player with a severe injury on his knee that if not treated properly, could effect him for the rest of his life.

This is bigger than football people.

Hope Brady takes care of this and I wish him a speedy recovery. I know this may not sound like the bestest news for the Patriots' organization and fans, but atleast you should feel fortunate that this injury happened this early in the season, giving him more time to rehab and everything, and should be ready for training camp next offseason. Just imagine how devestating it would have been to have this injury late in the season or during the post season? You wouldn't have him healthy enough to even put him on your roster for 2009.

ih8brady
09-08-2008, 04:00 AM
:woot:

SpurzN703
09-08-2008, 01:49 PM
I'm embarrassed by some of the fans here. Just pathetic. The guy is a human being first; being a football player is his job. Don't start taking cheap shots at the player with a severe injury on his knee that if not treated properly, could effect him for the rest of his life.

This is bigger than football people.

Hope Brady takes care of this and I wish him a speedy recovery. I know this may not sound like the bestest news for the Patriots' organization and fans, but atleast you should feel fortunate that this injury happened this early in the season, giving him more time to rehab and everything, and should be ready for training camp next offseason. Just imagine how devestating it would have been to have this injury late in the season or during the post season? You wouldn't have him healthy enough to even put him on your roster for 2009.

Oh please, the dude's won 3 Super Bowls. He's done enough to have a HOF career. Let 'em take the year off, I certainly won't complain.

Tetragrammaton
09-08-2008, 02:42 PM
I'm embarrassed by some of the fans here. Just pathetic. The guy is a human being first; being a football player is his job. Don't start taking cheap shots at the player with a severe injury on his knee that if not treated properly, could effect him for the rest of his life.

This is bigger than football people.

Hope Brady takes care of this and I wish him a speedy recovery. I know this may not sound like the bestest news for the Patriots' organization and fans, but atleast you should feel fortunate that this injury happened this early in the season, giving him more time to rehab and everything, and should be ready for training camp next offseason. Just imagine how devestating it would have been to have this injury late in the season or during the post season? You wouldn't have him healthy enough to even put him on your roster for 2009.

I don't think fans are happy that the man is hurting. It is coming entirely from a football perspective.

The AFC East has undergone such a transformation this year. Really, 3 teams have a legitimate shot at the division title now.

armylax54
09-08-2008, 03:07 PM
NFLN just confirmed that Tom Brady was placed on IR and that Brady is out for the season and NFLN is about to have a press conference with Belichick.

SpaceMountain16
09-08-2008, 03:08 PM
The press conference is also on ESPN News right now.

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:10 PM
I'm sure according to Bellicheck Brady will be "Day to day" even though he's on IR.

dolfan_uk
09-08-2008, 03:10 PM
Brady gone for season, Torn ACL amongst other damage.

Crack open the Bubbly people:d-day:

Dol-Fan99
09-08-2008, 03:12 PM
i think this is Karma for all the bogus injury reports on Brady the past few weeks and around super bowl time... i feel no pity for him or the pats...

Myles Fynch
09-08-2008, 03:16 PM
There go the Earl Morrell / Bob Griese comparisons.

It's a shame for Brady personally, but I shed no tears for the Pats as an evil entity.

Namor
09-08-2008, 03:16 PM
No...don't wish for injury..it's not cool.

aesop
09-08-2008, 03:16 PM
Are we really that uncompetitive that our fans would crack open champagne because the best QB in the league is injured? I'd much rather play a Patriots team with Tom Brady than one with Cassel.

hugoguzman
09-08-2008, 03:18 PM
I think this is one of those situations where publicly, everyone is taking the high road by saying that you shouldn't wish injury on any player and that you should never cheer when a great player gets hurt.

While I agree with it in principle, I think that deep down inside, a lot of AFC East fans are breathing a sigh of relief now that the Patriots are finally showing a major chink in their dynastic armor.

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:19 PM
One star. Bad Juju being happy about an injury. Not to mention....I want every team at thier best agasint us. No excuses.

Namor
09-08-2008, 03:19 PM
I'd rather beat a Tom Brady lead Pats team than a Cassel lead
one.

tmny99
09-08-2008, 03:21 PM
I'd rather beat a Tom Brady lead Pats team than a Cassel lead
one.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I can't celebrate someone getting injured. As a fan, I want my team to compete against the best.

fishypete
09-08-2008, 03:22 PM
I'd rather beat a Tom Brady lead Pats team than a Cassel lead
one.

I want to beat the Pats and I don't care who is leading them.

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:22 PM
I'd rather beat a Tom Brady lead Pats team than a Cassel lead
one.

Roger that.

PhinsPhan122
09-08-2008, 03:23 PM
You should never celebrate when anyone gets injured. It's okay to not be upset about it, but don't celebrate it. By the way, the Pats are still good and it's going to be difficult for us to go their week three and win.

PerfectFinz72
09-08-2008, 03:23 PM
I just can't be excited about this at all. Brady (whether we like it or not) is a great player. Anytime a great player goes down...it hurts the league.

Add to that I dont like seeing players get injured...even if I secretly say stupid things in the heat of the moment.

aesop
09-08-2008, 03:24 PM
I think this is one of those situations where publicly, everyone is taking the high road by saying that you shouldn't wish injury on any player and that you should never cheer when a great player gets hurt.

While I agree with it in principle, I think that deep down inside, a lot of AFC East fans are breathing a sigh of relief now that the Patriots are finally showing a major chink in their dynastic armor.When Marino went down and we were getting beat, didn't you think to yourself that the losses we got without him weren't really official?

How can you celebrate a victory against the Pats without Brady being beat as well? Same thing with the Super Bowl this year... everyone will be talking about what Brady might have done. It's just not as fun when one of the best players to play the game goes down for the season.

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:26 PM
I just can't be excited about this at all. Brady (whether we like it or not) is a great player. Anytime a great player goes down...it hurts the league.

Add to that I dont like seeing players get injured...even if I secretly say stupid things in the heat of the moment.

I think we all have that little devil inside...It's a question of one controlling it, or it controlling you.

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:27 PM
When Marino went down and we were getting beat, didn't you think to yourself that the losses we got without him weren't really official?

How can you celebrate a victory against the Pats without Brady being beat as well? Same thing with the Super Bowl this year... everyone will be talking about what Brady might have done. It's just not as fun when one of the best players to play the game goes down for the season.

Roger that. Well said.

ZachThomas76
09-08-2008, 03:27 PM
Brady gone for season, Torn ACL amongst other damage.

Crack open the Bubbly people:d-day:

a little class goes a long way. i dont recall Pats fans whooping it up when Ronnie went down. i honestly wonder if some Phin fans even deserve to see this franchise turned around. the Pats envy bs is pretty old and pathetic.

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:29 PM
a little class goes a long way. i dont recall Pats fans whooping it up when Ronnie went down. i honestly wonder if some Phin fans even deserve to see this franchise turned around. the Pats envy bs is pretty old and pathetic.
Yes it does.

Stugots13
09-08-2008, 03:30 PM
I can see both sides to this.

It's understandable for people to get excited about his injury because now they know their teams might have a chance. Nobody is actually wishing harm upon him, and it's not like his life is in danger. His career is not over and 20 years from now this injury won't even matter and he'll be perfectly healthy. That being said, I can see why people would want to cheer that the "evil" dynasty of the Patriots could be coming to a close. It was a natual human reaction that swept the U.S. Hell, the jet fan in my section yesterday was the one who first told me and it was the only emotion we would share in common.

At the same time, for obvious reasons, you shouldn't really be happy for someone when they get their sh*t broken.

dolfan4good
09-08-2008, 03:34 PM
I find CHEERING someone else's misfortune of a season ending injury extremely disgusting!

Greatness920
09-08-2008, 03:34 PM
TOM BRADY WAS JUST ANNOUNCED OUT FOR THE THE SEASON!!! woooooo this is dolphins related becuz they r in our division!! oh baby my season is almost complete now we gotta make the playoffs anything is possbile now woo!!!

heres the link for the doubters!!! http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3575339

NH-PhinPhan
09-08-2008, 03:35 PM
Awww.. Karma strikes again!

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:36 PM
I can see both sides to this.

It's understandable for people to get excited about his injury because now they know their teams might have a chance. Nobody is actually wishing harm upon him, and it's not like his life is in danger. His career is not over and 20 years from now this injury won't even matter and he'll be perfectly healthy. That being said, I can see why people would want to cheer that the "evil" dynasty of the Patriots could be coming to a close. It was a natual human reaction that swept the U.S. Hell, the jet fan in my section yesterday was the one who first told me and it was the only emotion we would share in common.

At the same time, for obvious reasons, you shouldn't really be happy for someone when they get their sh*t broken.

Oh you should've seen the glee in some of the threads earlier. They are most certainly wishing great harm upon him. All dynasties come to an end. Cowboys...Steelers...Dolphins...So will the Pats. I don't want it to end like this. I want it to end with us putting them down like rabid dogs.

fishypete
09-08-2008, 03:36 PM
When Marino went down and we were getting beat, didn't you think to yourself that the losses we got without him weren't really official?

How can you celebrate a victory against the Pats without Brady being beat as well? Same thing with the Super Bowl this year... everyone will be talking about what Brady might have done. It's just not as fun when one of the best players to play the game goes down for the season.

You play with what you have...Brady isn't the Pats...he's an important player...but just like when the Dolphins get injuries...I don't remember any team saying we'll give you second chance. Injuries are a part of the game...and the Pats have to deal with it...just like everyother team has to. As far as the Superbowl...I don't remember it written in stone that the Pats were a sure thing to make it...in fact...age is a factor against them...and lets all remember they beat KC yesterday.

PHINZONER
09-08-2008, 03:37 PM
I hate to see players get hurt, however it is nice to know that maybe that train is finally stopping elsewhere.

It put's the Pats in a somewhat similar role we have had to face. How good would they be w/o Brady, Maroney, Moss, and a few of their stars on D. I heard no compassion from pats fans to all our losses last year. More over they thought it was funny to beat up and run up scores on lesser teams w/ or w/o injuries.

PHINZONER
09-08-2008, 03:38 PM
Barely beat KC

BleedinGreenNC
09-08-2008, 03:38 PM
Brady gone for season, Torn ACL amongst other damage.

Crack open the Bubbly people:d-day:

Classy, once again, stick with Futbol.

wkedklwnz
09-08-2008, 03:40 PM
for those who cheer this injury, think of this...
when we shut the pats out at home a couple of years ago, would that victory have been as sweet if tom wasnt playing? i like to think no.
i hate tom as a player as much as the rest of you, but i do feel bad for him and the pats fans. If any teams fan base should sympathize it should be us, look at last year.
The only time I would ever be happy about an injury, would be if it came against us, and would hope its not serious enough for that the player to miss more than that one game

shula_guy
09-08-2008, 03:40 PM
I hear there is a very good rehab faculity down here in florida located behind a sear building. I wonder if he is going to be there.

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Wow. What class fans we have here. I guess it's a testiment to Brady on how great he is that everyones cackleing about him being injured "So now we have a chance!"

Wow.

aesop
09-08-2008, 03:42 PM
You play with what you have...Brady isn't the Pats...he's an important player...but just like when the Dolphins get injuries...I don't remember any team saying we'll give you second chance. Injuries are a part of the game...and the Pats have to deal with it...just like everyother team has to. As far as the Superbowl...I don't remember it written in stone that the Pats were a sure thing to make it...in fact...age is a factor against them...and lets all remember they beat KC yesterday.Please. Brady isn't the Pats? That's laughable. What were they before him?

Of course it wasn't written in stone.. but were they not the heavy, heavy favorite?

wkedklwnz
09-08-2008, 03:43 PM
Oh you should've seen the glee in some of the threads earlier. They are most certainly wishing great harm upon him. All dynasties come to an end. Cowboys...Steelers...Dolphins...So will the Pats. I don't want it to end like this. I want it to end with us putting them down like rabid dogs.

I agree whole-heartedly

Greatness920
09-08-2008, 03:43 PM
u guys need to freakin relax we can cheer if we want u guys can sit in the corner and watch im excited step closer to the playoffs for us wooo!!

HurriPhin
09-08-2008, 03:44 PM
Kudos to everyone else for the classy posts in response to Brady's injury.


I, on the other hand, must be a classless, disgusting, & truly disturbed individual. :woot:

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:46 PM
Kudos to everyone else for the classy posts in response to Brady's injury.


I, on the other hand, must be a classless, disgusting, & truly disturbed individual. :woot:

You're seriously 30 years old?

Greatness920
09-08-2008, 03:47 PM
dude i can say wat i want it means we have a better chance to get the wildcard if u dont like it dont read it good bye and have a nice day this is a dolphin fan forum our rival just got weaker. be happy or notim gonna do wat i please.

HughC
09-08-2008, 03:48 PM
Even though several media sites were reporting it (what was their source; where were the facts?), I wasn't 100% convinced until I saw a statement from the New England organization.

Now I am convinced; it's official, the Patriots have announced Brady is out for the year.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/09/pats_confirm_ra.html

Here's their statement:



"After extensive tests this morning, it was revealed that New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's left knee, which was injured in the first quarter of yesterday's game, will require surgery. He will be placed on injured reserve and will miss the remainder of the 2008 season."


This makes the AFC East a whole lot more interesting now.

bryan
09-08-2008, 03:49 PM
I hate to see players get hurt, however it is nice to know that maybe that train is finally stopping elsewhere.

It put's the Pats in a somewhat similar role we have had to face. How good would they be w/o Brady, Maroney, Moss, and a few of their stars on D. I heard no compassion from pats fans to all our losses last year. More over they thought it was funny to beat up and run up scores on lesser teams w/ or w/o injuries.

Karma is a *****!

Spray Mucus
09-08-2008, 03:49 PM
blah blah blah with the "don't wish anybody to get hurt" deal.

This is the golden boy Tom Freakin Brady who ****s magic and was part of a cheating Franchise. Karma is finally coming back to the Patriots. **** Brady and **** the Pats. GO FINS!

HurriPhin
09-08-2008, 03:51 PM
You're seriously 30 years old?


Yeah but I feel, look and act like I'm 20. Life is GREAT!

Greatness920
09-08-2008, 03:51 PM
time to beat up on little matt cassel lol oh this is gonna be nice

GRYPHONK
09-08-2008, 03:51 PM
You play with what you have...Brady isn't the Pats...he's an important player...but just like when the Dolphins get injuries...I don't remember any team saying we'll give you second chance. Injuries are a part of the game...and the Pats have to deal with it...just like everyother team has to. As far as the Superbowl...I don't remember it written in stone that the Pats were a sure thing to make it...in fact...age is a factor against them...and lets all remember they beat KC yesterday.

Right

No one was saying the Pats didn't deserve to make the SB because they played a SD team with a crippled QB, the league MVP the previous year didn't play almost the whole game and they played the 2nd half without their TE who is top 3 in this league.

No one is saying it's really not gonna be a lgit team to come form the NFC this year because the Giants lost Usi for the year.

Injuries happen.

To say it doesn't feel like a win is just ridiculous. So I guess last year we should be able to strike the record and scores from the books since we lost our star RB/HOF MLB'ER both starting safeties and a starting defensive lineman for the season before the first half was even over.

I don't wish harm upon anyone. Anyone that cheers for this is just immature and not worth the time.

But make no mistake about it. The Pats had to win the games with Brady. There are no guarantees in this league. It's absurd and ridiculous to sit here and say it won't be the same beating them or it's like we didn't really beat them or even the real team didn't have to go through NE to make the Playoffs.

Did the Olympians say that it wasn't really a gold because the reigning gold winner went down with an achilles injury. That Chinese dude

Did the woman say "It really wasn't a win because LOLO Jones stumbled over the 2nd to last hurdle and she clearly had the race won

Did anyone say the Chinese men really didn't win the gold in Gymnastics because 3 of the top Male Gymnasts went down with injuries and the reigning overall Champion Phil Hamm was one of them

With injuries to Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming did anyone say they really couldn't say they beat the Rockets last year.

When Big Papi got hurt or the Yankees ACE or Alfonso Soriano did anyone say "We really weren't playing the Yankees Red Sox or the Cubs?"

injuries are part of the game and they happen. You have to deal with it and move on.

Anyone that beats the Pats deserved to win the game this year. The team that represents the AFC in the Superbowl deserved to be there regardless if Tom Brady plays or not.

If NE doesn't make the Playoffs or have a bad season they deserved to have the bad season without Brady. They never wanted to have a QUALITY VETERAN backup because they didn't want that position to eat up the cap space.

So if poor QB play costs them this season then blame it on no other then the coach and GM and owner that many claim to be the best or one of the best and geniuses at what they do. They didn't properly prepare for a situation like this.

If the Pats go on to win a SB they deserve it. If Cassel goes on to have a Pro Bowl year then the questions of whether Brady made the Pats or if the system is what made it succesful will be a little clearer.

Why do you think many of us Like Having Ricky and Ronnie in the backfield. If one of them goes down for the season we have just as good an option backing them up and taking his place.

hugoguzman
09-08-2008, 03:52 PM
When Marino went down and we were getting beat, didn't you think to yourself that the losses we got without him weren't really official?

How can you celebrate a victory against the Pats without Brady being beat as well? Same thing with the Super Bowl this year... everyone will be talking about what Brady might have done. It's just not as fun when one of the best players to play the game goes down for the season.

I agree. My original post was simply pointing out what lurks in the darker crevices of an otherwise normal consciousness.

P.S. I appreciate all of those that thanked that post.

P.P.S. Don't be surprised to see a Brady-less Patriots squad still manage double-digit wins and a playoff birth. If there's one thing that New England has proven to be, it's resilient and impervious to injury. That's arguably what has made them so great.

Greatness920
09-08-2008, 03:53 PM
Yeah but I feel, look and act like I'm 20. Life is GREAT!

hell yea!! now thats the way to live wooo!!! i didnt know u dont have class for cheering watever haha go dolphins!!!

ZachThomas76
09-08-2008, 03:54 PM
time to beat up on little matt cassel lol oh this is gonna be nice

the Phins have lost 16 of their last 17 games. lol. we dont beat up on anybody lol.

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 03:55 PM
hell yea!! now thats the way to live wooo!!! i didnt know u dont have class for cheering watever haha go dolphins!!!

Better get you boy Ginn online with that attitude becasue he hasn't shown up yet.

fishypete
09-08-2008, 03:56 PM
Please. Brady isn't the Pats? That's laughable. What were they before him?

Of course it wasn't written in stone.. but were they not the heavy, heavy favorite?

When you place enough pressure on Brady...as the Dolphins did one season...as the Giants did in the Superbowl...he's just another QB. You take Brady and put him on an average team...and he's average...it takes a team to win...not just a QB.

Weren't the Colts and Tampa heavy favorites to win alot of games...so far they are both 0-1...thats why you have to play the games.

SpaceMountain16
09-08-2008, 03:58 PM
I'm quite excited to see how much of a GENIUS Bill Belichick is now.

fishypete
09-08-2008, 03:58 PM
I agree. My original post was simply pointing out what lurks in the darker crevices of an otherwise normal consciousness.

P.S. I appreciate all of those that thanked that post.

P.P.S. Don't be surprised to see a Brady-less Patriots squad still manage double-digit wins and a playoff birth. If there's one thing that New England has proven to be, it's resilient and impervious to injury. That's arguably what has made them so great.

I don't believe they have much faith with Cassell...I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose more games than win...they barely beat a KC team.

aesop
09-08-2008, 03:59 PM
When you place enough pressure on Brady...as the Dolphins did one season...as the Giants did in the Superbowl...he's just another QB. You take Brady and put him on an average team...and he's average...it takes a team to win...not just a QB.

Weren't the Colts and Tampa heavy favorites to win alot of games...so far they are both 0-1...thats why you have to play the games.I don't know how you came to the conclusion that if you put Brady on an average team, he's average. Have you seen this? I saw him win the Superbowl against an awesome Rams team with an average Patriots team. And further than that, no one knows what he'd do. We'll never see him on a different team.

So what, we put enough pressure on him one season? The Giants did it one game? What about all the other games he won? Just because he got beat a couple times doesn't mean squat.

I never heard Tampa getting a lot of praise this season.. and the Colts will bounce back. C'mon man, it's week 1. Ridiculous.

Greatness920
09-08-2008, 04:00 PM
Better get you boy Ginn online with that attitude becasue he hasn't shown up yet.


oh dont worry i had a gave him a wake up call hes comin next week

GoonBoss
09-08-2008, 04:01 PM
oh dont worry i had a gave him a wake up call hes comin next week

Hope so. It's about time.

hugoguzman
09-08-2008, 04:01 PM
I don't believe they have much faith with Cassell...I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose more games than win...they barely beat a KC team.

Cassell did hook up with Moss on several big plays, including a touchdown.

Still, I hear where you're coming from. It will be a true testament to that organization if they still make the playoffs without Brady.

fishypete
09-08-2008, 04:02 PM
I don't know how you came to the conclusion that if you put Brady on an average team, he's average. Have you seen this? I saw him win the Superbowl against an awesome Rams team with an average Patriots team. And further than that, no one knows what he'd do. We'll never see him on a different team.

So what, we put enough pressure on him one season? The Giants did it one game? What about all the other games he won? Just because he got beat a couple times doesn't mean squat.

I never heard Tampa getting a lot of praise this season.. and the Colts will bounce back. C'mon man, it's week 1. Ridiculous.

You missed the point that you have to play the games..part. And now the Pats have to play the games...now don't they.

SigmaOmega
09-08-2008, 04:04 PM
lol i knew this thread was gonna get flamed to hell...not that I care though. HA

aesop
09-08-2008, 04:05 PM
You missed the point that you have to play the games..part. And now the Pats have to play the games...now don't they.Uh, I guess they do.. That can't seriously have been your point with all that stuff about Brady being average.

Brad 77
09-08-2008, 04:07 PM
First off ya hate to see a guy lose his season that way, but with that said Brett Favre has to be happy.

After the Media calms down about the "poor ol' Patriots", the attention will shift to him....again. He will be the centerpiece of many a ESPN montage. So by time they are done cramming him down our throats again I must just be happy to be hearing about Tom Brady again.

WISfinfan13
09-08-2008, 04:13 PM
I'd rather beat a Tom Brady lead Pats team than a Cassel lead
one.


Every single team in the NFL would rather beat a Tom Brady lead team, than a Matt Cassel lead team. The Patriots are better with Tom, which means its a better win for your team.

But as far as the original post goes. As much as I hate Tom Brady, and more specifically the Patriots; It bad karma to cheer (or start threads like this) when someone gets injured...

But as a Dolphin fan...I am sick of seeing the Patriots succeed, while we have fallen all the way to the bottom of the NFL. For years we have caught bad beat after bad beat, while the Patriots kept catching every break. Last season we lost our starting QB, 3 safties, our star RB, and our Hall of Fame Linebacker; Yet, the Patriots had no problem running up the score on us, right??? So, for me it would feel damn good to go into New England and beat up on the Pats, Tom Brady or not.

Speaking of Karma, Maybe this is just payback for cheating last season.

Benzhiyi
09-08-2008, 04:52 PM
Posted this on my blog (http://nflbabus.blogspot.com - hope it's ok to share that link?) earlier...

A quirky rule of being an NFL franchise is that on every Thursday before a game you’re made to file an injury report with the league’s head office, declaring the status of any player of your 53-man roster who may be unable to play in the upcoming weekend’s games. (The bands of status are Probable, Questionable, Doubtful, and Out.)

31 of the NFL’s 32 teams have always followed this rule pretty much to the letter. The 32nd, the New England Patroits, have brazenly made a mockery of it for as long as anyone can remember, listing fit players as crocked in order to throw off their opponents’ gameplan for the week. The most high profile example is that of their star quarterback, Tom Brady. Brady hasn’t missed an NFL start since 30 September 2001, yet for every game in the last FOUR YEARS he’s been listed as probable with a sore right shoulder. It’s almost become an in-joke between head coach Bill Belichick and the league’s front office. Just one that the other 31 teams don’t find very amusing.

Well, the Pats aren’t laughing anymore. For the first time in half a decade, Belichick will file a legitimate injury report this coming Thursday. And it will read: TOM BRADY – OUT. New England lost its star player on Sunday when he tore an ACL in his left leg as he was caught by Kansas City safety Bernard Pollard, and those close to the Pats say he’s done for the year.

As a result, a lot of column inches and internets talk over the next few days and weeks is going to centre upon Brady’s injury being bad for the game. Fans will be told that essentially, they can’t enjoy their gridiron if its biggest star isn’t playing. Late Sunday, coaching legend John Madden said that “the entire NFL was devastated by this tonight”.

In reply to that, let me be the first to call ‘bull****’.

Not as a personal thing, because while he’s a nasty, whinging baby at the best of times, he’s also a sportsman (by name, if not in morals). And no-one who loves his sport and makes a living playing it deserves to have their career and their livelihood threatened by serious injury, although if Frank Lampard ever has his leg broken you might have to remind me that I wrote that.

Nope, the reason I’ll admit to not feeling the slightest sympathy over the Pats’ plight is because injuries happen in pro sport. They’re a great leveller. For years fans have hoped that their opponents’ best players will have to ‘sit this one out’, and right now 31 head coaches and a whole load of cornerbacks are secretly rejoicing, whatever John Madden may tell you. Switching to English sport for a second, if Cristiano Ronaldo suffered a season-ending injury tomorrow, do you think Chelsea and Man City fans would cry into their pints over it being “bad for the game”? Do you think Arsene Wenger and Rafa Benitez would shed a little tear about the odds of their clubs winning the Premiership suddenly shortening and declare that “all of football is devastated”?

Of course they wouldn’t, because in pro sports you gleefully make the most of any edge you can get.

I wish Tom Brady a speedy recovery.

But even more, I wish to see the Dolphins smash the Patriots without him.

BAMAPHIN 22
09-10-2008, 05:33 PM
You knew the details would come out eventually, even if Bill Belichick didn't want them to. The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/09/sources_brady_t.html) has the specifics on Tom Brady (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/5228)'s injury:
"Brady suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) and torn medial collateral ligament (MCL) in his left knee. ... Brady will likely undergo surgery in approximately one month and face 6-9 months of recovery and rehabilitation, barring any complications."


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/09/08/nfl.tracker/index.html