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Asicswrg85
10-14-2008, 02:46 PM
This isnt much of an update but this was posted at 2:30 concerning Roy Williams trade status for those of you who are interested

http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/10/14/lions-still-shopping-wr-williams/

DirkDiggler
10-14-2008, 02:52 PM
Hey Asics. Who is the babe in your avitar? If its your girlfriend "I hate you":lol:

Asicswrg85
10-14-2008, 02:55 PM
Hey Asics. Who is the babe in your avitar? If its your girlfriend "I hate you":lol:

Actually i found the picture on google one day and then later found out that the girl is a famous porn star i guess lol

Predaphin
10-14-2008, 02:56 PM
Damn, no mention of the Phins....I really wanted to pursue Roy, but not for a first rd pick

dahlmarino
10-14-2008, 02:56 PM
Actually i found the picture on google one day and then later found out that the girl is a famous porn star i guess lol

Go fins! :)

feelthepain
10-14-2008, 02:57 PM
I really don't see this being a Dolphin issue, in any way shape or form.

DefensiveEnd76
10-14-2008, 02:58 PM
We are NOT trading away a pick for Roy Williams so stop dreaming.

angry dolfan
10-14-2008, 03:01 PM
The Dolphins should be involved in this. Our WR corp sucks. I'm sure it'll reach its potential once we let Henne take over but any upgrades are welcome.

I say we lay in the weeds until 3:45, then offer a 5th round pick

Finfan1340
10-14-2008, 03:02 PM
Hey I guess the Lions are asking for a 1st round pick would BP give up a 1st round pick for Roy?

angry dolfan
10-14-2008, 03:02 PM
Never....ever!!

MrEd
10-14-2008, 03:04 PM
Actually i found the picture on google one day and then later found out that the girl is a famous porn star i guess lol

Yeah, she's got a banging @ss! whoa, man!:up:

studsatele
10-14-2008, 03:05 PM
no chance in hell!!!!! never not ever!!!!!!

dahlmarino
10-14-2008, 03:05 PM
Let's counter that offer with a cheese sandwich and a bikini top that was found on the beach. That should set the stage for some negotiating.

napsndreds
10-14-2008, 03:07 PM
Umm i think its stupid to say dolphins shouldnt give a pick for roy william..
ok we see the glearing issue of cb and wr problems right now...would u rather pick some guy who was to go thru that developmental rookie phase or would u give up a pick in which u know what ur getting and theres no guessing...physically and talent wise i think roy is worth the 1st...roy williams would upgrade this roster 50% with the pick up..

napsndreds
10-14-2008, 03:07 PM
And personally at this point i think the Lions need a 1st round more than we do....

MrEd
10-14-2008, 03:09 PM
A conditional first round pick, why not? It could be protected if we don't make the playoffs and if we don't they can have one of our 2nd rounders and a 2nd day pick. If we do make the playoffs, they can have our first rounder. We still have 2 2nd round picks and a 3rd rounder.

If we make the playoffs, we are fine with that with Roy Williams. To me a no brainer...OF COURSE YOU GIVE UP A "CONDITIONAL" 1st round pick! Duh.

Roy Williams, 2 second rounders, and a 3rd round pick for a playoff team is more than enough to enter the draft with.

If we 'don't' make the playoffs, then we still got Roy Williams, our first round pick, 1 2nd round pick, our 3rd rounder and we give up one of our 2nd rounders and say our 4th round pick.

Win win situation.

Vaark
10-14-2008, 03:09 PM
The Dolphins should be involved in this. Our WR corp sucks. I'm sure it'll reach its potential once we let Henne take over but any upgrades are welcome.

I say we lay in the weeds until 3:45, then offer a 5th round pick

You think Bill and Jeff have some eBay sniper software, eh?

dahlmarino
10-14-2008, 03:09 PM
And personally at this point i think the Lions need a 1st round more than we do....

Be that as it may, they can't have ours. A slightly less disgruntled Roy Williams who is catching the balls he's supposed to would be worth a first. As of now, he doesn't warrant that price tag.

Finfan1340
10-14-2008, 03:13 PM
What about Beck and a pick. They will lose Kitna for the rest of the season. I think tha Beck is a better QB then what they have there now.

finjim
10-14-2008, 03:15 PM
I'd give up one of our seconds in a heartbeat for Williams. He is exactly what we need. I'd throw in Camarillo too.

napsndreds
10-14-2008, 03:16 PM
Be that as it may, they can't have ours. A slightly less disgruntled Roy Williams who is catching the balls he's supposed to would be worth a first. As of now, he doesn't warrant that price tag.


Hey man I agree, but you cant judge a teammates demeanor on a team he isnt liking much to a new start..Im sure the guy still wants to play in the nfl. He'd most likely do better here than he did in DET, just my thoughts

MrEd
10-14-2008, 03:17 PM
It could be protected if we don't make the playoffs. We keep our first rounder and they can have one of our 2nd rounders and a 4th round pick. If we do make the playoffs, they can have our first rounder.

I mean we will have Roy Williams to replace that first round pick and we still will have two 2nd round picks and our 3rd rounder.

To me a no brainer...OF COURSE YOU GIVE UP A "CONDITIONAL" 1st round pick! Duh.

Roy Williams, 2 second rounders, and a 3rd round pick for a playoff team is more than enough to enter the draft with.

If we 'don't' make the playoffs, then we still got Roy Williams to 'add' to our first round pick, one 2nd round pick still, our 3rd rounder.

No brainer, really.

dlockz
10-14-2008, 03:18 PM
It could be protected if we don't make the playoffs. We keep our first rounder and they can have one of our 2nd rounders and a 4th round pick. If we do make the playoffs, they can have our first rounder.

I mean we will have Roy Williams to replace that first round pick and we still will have two 2nd round picks and our 3rd rounder.

To me a no brainer...OF COURSE YOU GIVE UP A "CONDITIONAL" 1st round pick! Duh.

Roy Williams, 2 second rounders, and a 3rd round pick for a playoff team is more than enough to enter the draft with.

If we 'don't' make the playoffs, then we still got Roy Williams to 'add' to our first round pick, one 2nd round pick still, our 3rd rounder.

No brainer, really.


i still say offer a 2nd rounder and see if they bite

Vaark
10-14-2008, 03:22 PM
Hey man I agree, but you cant judge a teammates demeanor on a team he isnt liking much to a new start..Im sure the guy still wants to play in the nfl. He'd most likely do better here than he did in DET, just my thoughts

This is eerily reminiscent of similar rationalizations regarding another player also not living up to draft expectations attributed to playing for that same Lions team: Joey Harrington.




http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2008/10/qpjude-1.jpg

NYinBostonFin
10-14-2008, 03:22 PM
I say after 4, we can stop having these threads.

burger13
10-14-2008, 03:22 PM
reports are that they have already been offered at least a 1st round pick from the Cowboys...


Lions | Team has offer from Dallas for Williams
Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:04:17 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Detroit Lions have an offer from the Dallas Cowboys to acquire WR Roy Williams. The offer is believed to be at least a first-round draft choice.

elite14eva
10-14-2008, 03:22 PM
i don't think we'll be making any trades today....too quiet on the homefront.

napsndreds
10-14-2008, 03:25 PM
This is eerily reminiscent of similar rationalizations regarding another player also not living up to draft expectations attributed to playing for that same Lions team: Joey Harrington.





http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2008/10/qpjude-1.jpg



Come on now guy how long had harrington played with the lions for before he came here...we knew the guy was weak

napsndreds
10-14-2008, 03:27 PM
I'd give up one of our seconds in a heartbeat for Williams. He is exactly what we need. I'd throw in Camarillo too.


what is it with people wanting to give up players who have played their heart out for us? Camarillo is a star in the making....to be a successful wide out im learning the hard way its really not about speed or size...but seperation, hands...and some sort of speed after the catch

islandah
10-14-2008, 03:31 PM
I'd be happy to trade a 1st round pick for Roy Williams- specifically, the #9 pick in the 07 draft!

FinsFan74
10-14-2008, 03:31 PM
Let's counter that offer with a cheese sandwich and a bikini top that was found on the beach. That should set the stage for some negotiating.
I believe that's Richard Simmons bikini top you found....please tell me you didn't sniff it!?

angry dolfan
10-14-2008, 03:35 PM
How about Pennington and a pick, maybe a 6th or or conditional 5th.

d-day
10-14-2008, 03:36 PM
if i had my drothers, i would trade ted ginn straight up for him - throw in beck if needed - we already have our "returner" with bess, beck is the not qb for our future, lions get a wr back and we get a big, proven, big play wideout we've been looking for years and sorely need

NYinBostonFin
10-14-2008, 03:37 PM
A conditional first round pick, why not? It could be protected if we don't make the playoffs and if we don't they can have one of our 2nd rounders and a 2nd day pick. If we do make the playoffs, they can have our first rounder. We still have 2 2nd round picks and a 3rd rounder.

If we make the playoffs, we are fine with that with Roy Williams. To me a no brainer...OF COURSE YOU GIVE UP A "CONDITIONAL" 1st round pick! Duh.

Roy Williams, 2 second rounders, and a 3rd round pick for a playoff team is more than enough to enter the draft with.

If we 'don't' make the playoffs, then we still got Roy Williams, our first round pick, 1 2nd round pick, our 3rd rounder and we give up one of our 2nd rounders and say our 4th round pick.

Win win situation.

He isn't worth a #1 pick.

SabanHater
10-14-2008, 03:37 PM
How about Pennington and a pick, maybe a 6th or or conditional 5th.

that's a joke right? :err:

elite14eva
10-14-2008, 03:39 PM
He isn't worth a #1 pick.
your right a 2nd maybe.

phinfanNY08
10-14-2008, 03:40 PM
I'd give up one of our seconds in a heartbeat for Williams. He is exactly what we need. I'd throw in Camarillo too.


are you crazy,:err: camarillo is our best WR

NYinBostonFin
10-14-2008, 03:40 PM
your right a 2nd maybe.

IMO, he's not worth that.

A #3 maybe, but I'd rather wait until he is a FA next year.

phinfanNY08
10-14-2008, 03:41 PM
I'd be happy to trade a 1st round pick for Roy Williams- specifically, the #9 pick in the 07 draft!

i agree, ted ginn has become as worthless as cam cameron's play calling abilities

thejetssuck
10-14-2008, 03:44 PM
Yeah, she's got a banging @ss! whoa, man!:up:

No kidding!! I wanna throw that salad all over the place. Syrup and or jelly NOT necessary.:eat:

btk1
10-14-2008, 03:46 PM
We are NOT trading away a pick for Roy Williams so stop dreaming.

What is the asking price for Chad Johnson? I dont want him either but maybe if it were a 2nd or 3rd round pick that might work.

Ocho Cinco is a joke of a person but maybe he might be happier here getting all the attention as a receiver. That is until Ted Ginn starts tearing it up.:sidelol:

napsndreds
10-14-2008, 03:49 PM
some fans have a twisted idea of how the nfl works...some fans want all original dolphin players no trades...lets jus toss all 53 guys plus practice squad and jus draft and then well have a team of rookies and sophomores...then we mold then and hopefully within 5 or 6 years they will be stars...GET real...you seen an oppertunity take it! just like pennington!!!>.

napsndreds
10-14-2008, 03:50 PM
No kidding!! I wanna throw that salad all over the place. Syrup and or jelly NOT necessary.:eat:


kinda of flat if you ask me, suffering from a case of NASSATOL

elite14eva
10-14-2008, 03:52 PM
cowboys will probably trade for him.

elite14eva
10-14-2008, 03:56 PM
cowboys offered a 1st for him...talk about desperate.

ChambersWI
10-14-2008, 04:00 PM
there are rumors of a 3 way trade with us involved. Something like us getting either Miles Austin or Patrick Crayton, Detroit getting multiple picks and a player, and Dallas getting Roy Williams and John Beck.

Do NOT get your hopes up though as the article I read about it was a blog on PFT, and they only mention that a 3-way deal could be in works, but does not mention with what teams after stating earlier today Miami was in talks.

d-day
10-14-2008, 04:02 PM
adam schefter just reported that the trade went through - dallas gets roy williams

dolpns13
10-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Hey I guess the Lions are asking for a 1st round pick would BP give up a 1st round pick for Roy?

Nope, because it was just reported on the 2 minutes drill that he is going to Dallas for Dallas's 1st round pick... The team has not announced it yet.

dolpns13
10-14-2008, 04:03 PM
adam schefter just reported that the trade went through - dallas gets roy williams

I just heard it too...

elite14eva
10-14-2008, 04:04 PM
Nope, because it was just reported on the 2 minutes drill that he is going to Dallas for Dallas's 1st round pick... The team has not announced it yet.wow.

dolpns13
10-14-2008, 04:04 PM
Just reported on the 2 minute drill, Dallas sent their first rounder to Detriot for Roy Williams... Sorry fellers

napsndreds
10-14-2008, 04:05 PM
and we still have ginn and hagan and wilford? .............

elite14eva
10-14-2008, 04:05 PM
is the trade official?

Smoke
10-14-2008, 04:06 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643295



The Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal) are close to a deal to acquire wide receiver Roy Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5532) from the Detroit Lions (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det), a source told ESPN.com Tuesday. The trade would involve multiple draft picks but would not involve the Cowboys' first-round pick.

etown08
10-14-2008, 04:06 PM
Where did you see the updates of any trades happening

Duriel
10-14-2008, 04:07 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/14/lions-trade-roy-williams-to-cowboys/

Traded to Cowboys.

elite14eva
10-14-2008, 04:07 PM
and we still have ginn and hagan and wilford? .............
what's sad is we weren't even in the running to try to get him...wow

Rhody Phins Fan
10-14-2008, 04:07 PM
Trade to Dallas. Apparently they gave up a first rounder. I'm glad Miami didn't do this.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/14/lions-trade-roy-williams-to-cowboys/

dlockz
10-14-2008, 04:07 PM
great trade in my opinion. maybe we get one of thier scrubs now.
Still cant believe Dallas wanted Roy williams over John Beck or ted ginn.

ChambersWI
10-14-2008, 04:09 PM
Dallas can afford to give up more than we can/could. They have so much talent they don't need the draft picks that badly.

U-M_all_day
10-14-2008, 04:10 PM
wish miami did that

athrun340
10-14-2008, 04:10 PM
did i just hear that correctly? 2nd round pick this year and another 2nd round next year but no 1st round pick?

dlockz
10-14-2008, 04:10 PM
Dallas can afford to give up more than we can/could. They have so much talent they don't need the draft picks that badly.


Not sure I agree. I do agree that its a big risk to trade our first rounder for anybody since we might end up 2-14.

dolpns13
10-14-2008, 04:10 PM
and we still have ginn and hagan and wilford? .............

Haha.. yes we do

Vaark
10-14-2008, 04:11 PM
great trade in my opinion. maybe we get one of thier scrubs now.
Still cant believe Dallas wanted Roy williams over John Beck or ted ginn.


Or that they're sticking with Brad Johnson instead of trying to induce your vaunted Daunte Gandhi out of "retirement"

FINSFAN2781
10-14-2008, 04:11 PM
I heard it was Miles Ausin and a 1st or a 2nd for Williams.

hestar
10-14-2008, 04:11 PM
did i just hear that correctly? 2nd round pick this year and another 2nd round next year but no 1st round pick?

that's what I thought I just heard if so,wow.Why the hell couldn't we do that

Jimi
10-14-2008, 04:11 PM
ESPN reported it was a 2nd round pick....we should have jumped on that.

Avigatorx
10-14-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm not sure why Dallas felt they needed another WR so bad.

Maybe TO is on his last leg there?

d-day
10-14-2008, 04:15 PM
adam shefter just reported it was a 1st, a 3rd and a 6th!

dolpns13
10-14-2008, 04:15 PM
Or that they're sticking with Brad Johnson instead of trying to induce your vaunted Daunte Gandhi out of "retirement"
:sidelol:

athrun340
10-14-2008, 04:15 PM
schefter is now reporting that the cowboys gave up a 1st round, 3rd round, and a 6th round pick

Finfan1340
10-14-2008, 04:17 PM
THE Cowboys got Roy for a 2nd rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year

Andyman
10-14-2008, 04:17 PM
As per Profootballtalk.com No word on the exact comp.

SpaceMountain16
10-14-2008, 04:18 PM
THE Cowboys got Roy for a 2nd rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year

Yeah thats what ESPN is saying

a 2nd in '09 and 2nd in '10

Good trade for the Cowboys, i would not have given up a first rounder for him.

Etuoo33
10-14-2008, 04:20 PM
As per Profootballtalk.com No word on the exact comp.



They gave up a 1st a 3rd and a 6th. I'm glad it wasn't us.:hi5:

SpaceMountain16
10-14-2008, 04:22 PM
They gave up a 1st a 3rd and a 6th. I'm glad it wasn't us.:hi5:

If that's true it's WAAAAAAAAAAY too much. Especially for the Dolphins who you'd figure would have a top 13 pick or so.

Dolphins7273
10-14-2008, 04:23 PM
Conflicting reports so far but if it was just for a 2nd then the Fins fell asleep at the wheel.

WatCanBrownDo4U
10-14-2008, 04:24 PM
Jerry Jones Got his wish for a 1st, 3rd, and a 6th...
way too much in my opinion,
maybe we can get crayton


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643295

dolpns13
10-14-2008, 04:25 PM
schefter is now reporting that the cowboys gave up a 1st round, 3rd round, and a 6th round pick

Yup, for Roy and detroits 7th.. Waaaay to much if you ask me.

Pengh
10-14-2008, 04:26 PM
first, third, and sixth-round draft pick (ROTOWORLD)

JT-forpresident
10-14-2008, 04:26 PM
hoooooooooly cow, 1st 3rd 6th ??? that's crazy, now i understand why we didn't bring him in

Finfan1340
10-14-2008, 04:26 PM
how would we get clayton in the offseason?

angry dolfan
10-14-2008, 04:26 PM
insane. completely insane.

finfan3223
10-14-2008, 04:26 PM
I just heard 1st, 3rd, and 6th too. Man im really glad we didnt do that cause thats way to many draft picks for a rebuilding team.

Dolphins7273
10-14-2008, 04:27 PM
Breaking news: This is already being discussed. :D

Avigatorx
10-14-2008, 04:27 PM
After hearing about the Roy Williams trade I can't help but feel like the Eddie Murphy McDonald's skit.

If you recall, as a young boy Eddie would go outside and see all his friends with a nice fat juicy McDonalds burger.

So he goes and asks his mom for McDonalds. She tells him, we will make you better than McDonalds baby. "Now, go run to the market and get me some chop meat, peppers, onions, eggs and a loaf of wonder bread."

Eddie says "But McDonalds aint got no peppers....."
"McDonalds aint got no eggs....." etc etc.

Sure enough, his mama's burger isnt that McDonalds burger.

Well, every year I see teams going out and getting these sweet *** Big Macs.....

And every year we are stuck with the mama's burgers.

I WANT MCDONALDS!!!!!!

Well, I guess we got the food stamps to get us more mama's burger ingredients again in march.

WatCanBrownDo4U
10-14-2008, 04:27 PM
wrong link sorry guys, i will post the right one in a couple minutes

Finfan1340
10-14-2008, 04:27 PM
how would we get clayton in the offseason.

dlockz
10-14-2008, 04:28 PM
i think its worth it for them. They have assets.

Myles Fynch
10-14-2008, 04:28 PM
Jerry Jones Got his wish for a 1st, 3rd, and a 6th...
way too much in my opinion,
maybe we can get crayton


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643295

At that price I think it's safe to say Jerry's going "all in" for 2008.

finfan54
10-14-2008, 04:28 PM
mark my words right now. stupidist move by Jerry J in history. This team is in dissarray. Williams wants the ball. How is he going to get it with the other ego on the other side and there QB has a broken finger. Pacman symbolises the crap happening within.

then to find out they give a 1st, 3rd, and 6th. WOW! JJ is a loser.

WatCanBrownDo4U
10-14-2008, 04:29 PM
patrick crayton.. trade them a 3rd if its not too late

dlockz
10-14-2008, 04:30 PM
mark my words right now. stupidist move by Jerry J in history. This team is in dissarray. Williams wants the ball. How is he going to get it with the other ego on the other side and there QB has a broken finger. Pacman symbolises the crap happening within.

then to find out they give a 1st, 3rd, and 6th. WOW! JJ is a loser.


Hmm probably a late 1st, a late third for a good young receiver. Hell do it.
i respect that he wants to win even if he is a boob sometimes.

WatCanBrownDo4U
10-14-2008, 04:31 PM
http://rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=127025

the right link is here

Finfan1340
10-14-2008, 04:32 PM
does anyone know if it is too late to trade... But i really dont think that BP will trade as much as we think he will

FINFAN15
10-14-2008, 04:32 PM
I hate to be on that team l 2 egos at rec and no one to get them the ball.This ought to be fun to watch the next few weeks

Finfan1340
10-14-2008, 04:33 PM
is it to late to trade

Dolpfan_72
10-14-2008, 04:34 PM
Hey Asics. Who is the babe in your avitar? If its your girlfriend "I hate you":lol:

I never get tired of looking at this picture:

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/01/804854-1.jpg

ebcrew
10-14-2008, 04:34 PM
thank god we didnt

emeraldfin
10-14-2008, 04:34 PM
Owens and Williams.

That is a pretty formidable pair of wideouts. Will be a DB's nightmare

U-M_all_day
10-14-2008, 04:35 PM
he will still be available in 2009 right?

SpaceMountain16
10-14-2008, 04:35 PM
Anyone who'd want the Dolphins to trade a first rounder, conditional or not, for Williams is out of their mind.

burger13
10-14-2008, 04:39 PM
welll.. TOO LATE.. roy has gone to thew cowboys for a 1st, 3rd and 6th!!! thats ridiculous.. parcells would have never given those picks to the lions...

WOW....Lions certainly got a good deal.

I hope all those who were proposing offering the Lions complete crap in hopes of acquiring Roy take notice.

zigzagzz
10-14-2008, 04:40 PM
Dallas pull the trigger getting WR Roy Williams. Dallas gives Detroit 1st, 3rd and 6th round picks. detroit gives Dallas Roy and 2009 7th round pick. WAY to much for us to give.

finfan3223
10-14-2008, 04:42 PM
Dallas pull the trigger getting WR Roy Williams. Dallas gives Detroit 1st, 3rd and 6th round picks. detroit gives Dallas Roy and 2009 7th round pick. WAY to much for us to give.

How many Roy Williams threads are there gonna be

FINSFAN2781
10-14-2008, 04:43 PM
So much for Williams wanting to go to a team to be a #1 WR.

Dolpfan_72
10-14-2008, 04:43 PM
Well this probably means Crayton is up for grabs if not now then at the end of the season as was predicted. Question is, do we make a play for him or not?

Dolpfan_72
10-14-2008, 04:44 PM
So much for Williams wanting to go to a team to be a #1 WR.

Yup. He will be in the same situation he was in up in Detroit. Maybe playing for a winning team will help. They say winning heals all wounds.

Dolpfan_72
10-14-2008, 04:47 PM
Merge

Geforce
10-14-2008, 04:47 PM
Perhaps you missed the thread just below this one titled
BREAKING NEWS: Roy Williams Traded to Dallas

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f2/breaking-news-roy-williams-traded-to-dallas-231504.html

Dr. Phin
10-14-2008, 05:01 PM
insane. completely insane.

Well, it is Jones after all...insane is a good summation.:sidelol:

Dredd1050
10-14-2008, 05:05 PM
Sorry should have read down. Please merge.

That price was waaay too steep. I'm glad Miami didn't pull the trigger.

BigScuingili
10-14-2008, 05:07 PM
A lot to give up I think, but oh well. Rich get richer I guess.

Dredd1050
10-14-2008, 05:09 PM
And Brad Johnson to throw to him. Miami NOT pulling the trigger is a good sign of this FO.

phinfan33
10-14-2008, 05:39 PM
Wow,Dallas gave up a 1st,3rd,6th,&7th rd picks for Roy Williams,half their draft.....what would've been the absolute most any of you would've given?...me? one of our 2nds and Beck coupled with Hagan would've been my absolute most....

Dolfan984
10-14-2008, 05:41 PM
Wow what a WR duo. Roy Williams and Owens? Wow.

X-Pacolypse
10-14-2008, 05:42 PM
That's why I didn't want to trade for Roy Williams. It's a trade that a rebuilding team could clearly NOT afford.

rutgers11
10-14-2008, 05:44 PM
they overpaid, dallas don't know what their doing without bp...... i heard 2 seconds on espn, but diffreent on nfl network,

texasPHINSfan
10-14-2008, 05:44 PM
well you're off a bit on your assumption.

dallas gave up a 1st, 3rd, and 6th.... in exchange they get RW and a 7th.
i think that's a serious overpayment for a WR that isn't even in the top 10 in the league. this is herschel walker trade all over again...

this belongs in the NFL discussion, not Miami Dolphin discussion though. ;)

insomnia411
10-14-2008, 05:44 PM
I would have given up one of our 2nds and a 3rd this year as well as a 2nd next year.

BillParFan
10-14-2008, 05:55 PM
Wow what a WR duo. Roy Williams and Owens? Wow.

How long before TO has a melt down when the ball is thrown to Williams.:lol:

Dolpfan_72
10-14-2008, 06:03 PM
How long before TO has a melt down when the ball is thrown to Williams.:lol:

Maybe then TO will be the one wanting to be traded and we can swoop in and grab him :D

ArmyFin7
10-14-2008, 06:05 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8676540/Report:-Lions-trade-WR-Williams-to-Cowboys


Report says the cowboys made the deal for Roy Williams. WAY too much to give up for one guy! Why make the deal when you don't have a QB to get him the ball for at least a month. Glad it wasn't us!

texasPHINSfan
10-14-2008, 06:07 PM
1) there was already 10 other threads about this
2) kindly direct non-dolphins talk to the "general NFL" forum.

:)

BillParFan
10-14-2008, 06:20 PM
mark my words right now. stupidist move by Jerry J in history. This team is in dissarray. Williams wants the ball. How is he going to get it with the other ego on the other side and there QB has a broken finger. Pacman symbolises the crap happening within.

then to find out they give a 1st, 3rd, and 6th. WOW! JJ is a loser.

:lol: Dallas got the 6th pick when Pacman got suspended!:lol:

Dolpfan_72
10-14-2008, 06:21 PM
Maybe then TO will be the one wanting to be traded and we can swoop in and grab him :D

:lol:

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2008/10/prod3yv1-1.jpghttp://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2008/10/prod4zk3-1.jpg

MDFinFan06
10-14-2008, 06:27 PM
Actually i found the picture on google one day and then later found out that the girl is a famous porn star i guess lol
shes from bangbros...couldnt forget her

RocKStaR
10-14-2008, 06:28 PM
Well He's Out!!!!!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ba4c11&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

SpurzN703
10-14-2008, 06:45 PM
I would have given up one of our 2nds and a 3rd this year as well as a 2nd next year.

Which Detroit wasn't asking for so.....

SpurzN703
10-14-2008, 06:47 PM
what's sad is we weren't even in the running to try to get him...wow

Don't see how it's sad man. Giving up a 1st round pick, which for the Phins will be Top 15, doesn't make sense.

Dallas' pick will probably be late 20s and while you probably don't want to part with that pick, they're built to win now, which is the point in playing football.

Winning

Vertical Limit
10-14-2008, 08:00 PM
Good trade by Dallas. Terrell Owens is 34 years old and has been on the decline yet playing at a very high level still but he's not the same Terrell Owens' we used to see like on his first season with Philly.

1st round pick will likely be on the late 20's maybe 30-31 for a great receiver that has never had a real quarterback to throw him the ball (Chris Chambers, are you reading this?).

With a healthy Tony Romo and all those weapons in Dallas, Roy Williams will be better than ever and possibly be a top 3 receiver in this league.

Dolpfan_72
10-14-2008, 08:39 PM
Good trade by Dallas. Terrell Owens is 34 years old and has been on the decline yet playing at a very high level still but he's not the same Terrell Owens' we used to see like on his first season with Philly.

He was pretty damn good in San Francisco too with Jeff Garcia.

milldog
10-14-2008, 08:50 PM
That is one scary lineup there. Don't see TO and Roy Williams getting along if they don't win a ton of games. I agree, way too much to give up for one player who isn't a top 10 WR in the NFL. Detroit made a great deal keeping Calvin who is much more of a threat than RW. Good for them, their franchise has been in disarray for a long time.

NYinBostonFin
10-15-2008, 09:11 AM
Way too much for Roy. They must really want to put all thier chips in on this year to win it all. With Romo and Pacman out, they felt the pressure to make a move.

I wouldn't want to be in Dallas if they miss the playoffs.