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GoonBoss
10-26-2008, 07:59 PM
Anyone else hear it? :lol: He was in RARE form calling out Vernon Davis

gofins
10-26-2008, 08:06 PM
Heard the tail end. Didn't even know it was about Davis. What happened?

WVDolphan
10-26-2008, 08:10 PM
Heard the tail end. Didn't even know it was about Davis. What happened?

Davis was being a selfish bum and Singletary demonstrated that he CLEARLY will not tolerate it on his squad. Kinda refreshing to see after so many coaches put up with the bs that so many of these degenerates display(TO, Mucho Stinko, ETC ETC).

But, I gotta wonder, will this **** fly with the whole locker room. If it does, look for San Fran to develope into something as long as he coaches them. If it dosent, it could get ugly out there for the rest of the season. Its all up to the players to get on board or not. High risk, high reward move by Singletary to kick a player off the field and send him into the locker room. These are grown men.

Have to say, I kinda like it by Singletary. If all coaches did this kind of stuff, the league would be alot better.

DaBills4life
10-26-2008, 08:41 PM
I love it, but Singletary will find out the hard way, 20 something year old multimillionaires don't care.

ikes daddy
10-26-2008, 09:27 PM
i love it,wish more coachs had the balls to do what he's doing

djfresh47
10-27-2008, 02:05 PM
Disagreed with the move if he wants to have success. He singled out one guy, benched his Qb, and gave the media soundbites to laugh at. All in his 1st week as a NFL head coach. Depending on the how guys feel in the lockerroom he could "lose the team." I think he could've done it in a different manor. Publicly humiliating a player doesn't work.

He does sound alot like Samuel L. Jackson though.

kcbrown
10-27-2008, 04:33 PM
I think he went way over the top with this. As a new coach, and as an african american coach, you have to remain cool and observe things for a while. We are an emotional people (similar to Italians), you can't act crazy and call out a kid when you are new to coaching. He looked like Denny Green Part II.

He needs to relax and win a few games to build some cred before he goes off again. All that hollering means squat in the NFL especially when you lose.

I think he looked out of control with that rant.

MoFinz
10-27-2008, 04:41 PM
I thought it was great. He made the point...TEAM first, last and always. It's HIS team, and if youre going to play for him, its going to be as part of the TEAM.

Good for him, i hope he wins out

GoonBoss
10-27-2008, 04:57 PM
I think he went way over the top with this. As a new coach, and as an african american coach, you have to remain cool and observe things for a while. We are an emotional people (similar to Italians), you can't act crazy and call out a kid when you are new to coaching. He looked like Denny Green Part II.

He needs to relax and win a few games to build some cred before he goes off again. All that hollering means squat in the NFL especially when you lose.

I think he looked out of control with that rant.

I can't speak to your take to the racial componant, because I'm not AA but I disagree with your take that he looked like Denny Green II. Green was out of control. He completely lost his composure. I thought Mike was losing it but, then, once you really look, he was completely in control. Was he mad? I'm sure he was. He wants the guys to play the way he did. He actually looked more like Ditka than Green.

kcbrown
10-27-2008, 05:15 PM
I like what he said, I just don't think he has the stripes yet to go off like that. He's not guaranteed to continue coaching out there in that spot, he's interim from what I hear. So he needs win some games and remain in control in front of the media, you can save the Lombardi speeches for the locker room.

I'm a big Singletary fan, I just don't want him to freak out like that so early in the game (in his career).

Lorenzo Rules
10-27-2008, 06:49 PM
what I am unclear on is that Davis slapped a seattle player on the back of his helmet but isnt this what some players do after making a play ? I see it all the time so I am little unclear on how is slapping another the helmet a bad thing . but i think athletes and superstars need to stop getting the preferencial treatment , ( sorry for the spelling error )

phinfan3411
10-27-2008, 07:39 PM
Vernon Davis is an idiot, last coach had problems with him also. As a caucasian-american (I guess that seems to matter), I absolutely LOVED IT. I made my son watch it, not sure he got too much out of it (he is 4 months old), called up my nephew (who I feel dogs it too much in football), and told him to watch it.....

I do not feel there is enough of this type of guy in sports or in everyday life, Singletary is a no-nonsense guy, that I would make a deal with on a hand shake, and know it was good as gold. Make fun of it if you will, I have a new, second favorite team, Go Niners!

GoonBoss
10-27-2008, 08:12 PM
Vernon Davis is an idiot, last coach had problems with him also. As a caucasian-american (I guess that seems to matter), I absolutely LOVED IT. I made my son watch it, not sure he got too much out of it (he is 4 months old), called up my nephew (who I feel dogs it too much in football), and told him to watch it.....

I do not feel there is enough of this type of guy in sports or in everyday life, Singletary is a no-nonsense guy, that I would make a deal with on a hand shake, and know it was good as gold. Make fun of it if you will, I have a new, second favorite team, Go Niners!

I have very few man-crushes....Singletary is one of them. Jim Jensen is another. Singletary is like a football god to me.

djfresh47
10-27-2008, 08:44 PM
what I am unclear on is that Davis slapped a seattle player on the back of his helmet but isnt this what some players do after making a play ? I see it all the time so I am little unclear on how is slapping another the helmet a bad thing . but i think athletes and superstars need to stop getting the preferencial treatment , ( sorry for the spelling error )

Na, he definately hit him in the front of the helmet. It wasn't the situation you've described.

I didn't watch the game because the 9ers vs Seahawks is about as exciting as watching grass grow. Though just on the highlights the pick 6 thrown by O'Sullivan, Davis was the only player sprinting to catch the Seahawks player.

My guess is that the reaction by Singletary wasn't only for what happened during the game. I don't think what Singletary did works in the NFL. We're supposed to be idealistic and think that it was good to discipline a guy for a mental mistake. Though Singletary also took one of the few weapons the 9ers have out of the game. From my knowledge this was the 1st time i've heard of Davis causing problems. Guys in college or high school may respond but professionals don't, IMO.

kcbrown
10-27-2008, 09:07 PM
I heard on the radio driving home from work that Singletary said something to him coming off the field and Davis was like, "Get out of my face". Then Singletary went over to him on the bench, and Davis said, "I said get away from me" OR "I said get out my face with that". After that, Singletary told him to take it to the locker room.

Don't know if this is true, but that's what the sports host was saying....790AM in Atlanta sports show

GoonBoss
10-28-2008, 12:05 AM
I heard on the radio driving home from work that Singletary said something to him coming off the field and Davis was like, "Get out of my face". Then Singletary went over to him on the bench, and Davis said, "I said get away from me" OR "I said get out my face with that". After that, Singletary told him to take it to the locker room.

Don't know if this is true, but that's what the sports host was saying....790AM in Atlanta sports show

Good. Mikes getting after them. Professionals will respond...Failing that, he'll be removed and they'll get a nice Wade Phillips type so the players won't get offended by the coach any more....

You know..Maybe it's because I just love football but, if Mike Singletary was getting after me? I'd listen.

emeraldfin
10-28-2008, 07:10 AM
Coaches should always defend their players in the media. They can rip on them all they want behind closed doors but not publicly call them out. Like is he trying to make Vernon Davis hate him? Davis probably thinks to himself why should I even bother if my coach is'nt even going to support me?

This will come back to bite him in the ***

TedSlimmJr
10-28-2008, 06:52 PM
I'm totally on board with the message Singletary is getting across....but maybe this wasn't the best scenario to play that card just yet....

Singletary said...."I want winners"....well....at last glance....you didn't inherit any...

I just think there will be more suitable occasions down the road that would have justified this move in a much more justifiable manner...other than Vernon slapping another guys helmet.

I think there is some history between coach and Vernon....maybe in practice while Nolan was still coach??

On the other hand....this is old school....this is how players were handled back in his day....your feelings or public humiliation didn't matter. You should have thought about that before you did what you did...

How humiliated did Singletary feel when his player behaved liked that?

It goes both ways I guess....

Bottom line is Vernon, and/or the team will respond to this in one of two ways....they'll either get it together....or they won't...

djfresh47
10-28-2008, 07:11 PM
I'm totally on board with the message Singletary is getting across....but maybe this wasn't the best scenario to play that card just yet....

Singletary said...."I want winners"....well....at last glance....you didn't inherit any...

I just think there will be more suitable occasions down the road that would have justified this move in a much more justifiable manner...other than Vernon slapping another guys helmet.

I think there is some history between coach and Vernon....maybe in practice while Nolan was still coach??

On the other hand....this is old school....this is how players were handled back in his day....your feelings or public humiliation didn't matter. You should have thought about that before you did what you did...

How humiliated did Singletary feel when his player behaved liked that?

It goes both ways I guess....

Bottom line is Vernon, and/or the team will respond to this in one of two ways....they'll either get it together....or they won't...ou

I hate the term old school to describe things. Just because that's how players were handled in the past doesn't automatically mean it'll work now. Mike Ditka worked in the past and failed in New Orleans.

Dan LeBatard on PTI made a great point, IMO. He said that Singletary came out looking good as if it was the players fault only that they're not winning.

Singletary was a great player. He's an interim head coach which IMO makes it easier for him to lose the players in the lockerroom. It's always easier to fire one guy than 53.

Bum's son maybe too easy going. Though I think the hard nose guys are just as bad. Tom Coughlin was on the verge of being fired before he eased up.

sn9ke.eyes
10-29-2008, 01:48 PM
Coaches should always defend their players in the media. They can rip on them all they want behind closed doors but not publicly call them out. Like is he trying to make Vernon Davis hate him? Davis probably thinks to himself why should I even bother if my coach is'nt even going to support me?

This will come back to bite him in the ***

Or Vernon Davis could wake up and think "I better get straight or I'll keep getting embarrassed in front of everyone."

Either way, Vernon Davis hasn't even come close to living up to the hype when he was drafted, he's got no skins on the wall at all so I wouldn't be that concerned if I was Singletary.

djfresh47
10-30-2008, 06:52 PM
I just thought it was funny to see on the Bottom Line, "Mike Singletary admits to pulling pants down during half-time." Really ESPN that's needed?

kcbrown
10-31-2008, 07:32 PM
I just thought it was funny to see on the Bottom Line, "Mike Singletary admits to pulling pants down during half-time." Really ESPN that's needed?

I saw this earlier on Jim Rome. I had no idea this happened. Strike 2 and there may be no Strike 3. He held his pants down for 3 or 4 mintues while addressing the team??!

Rome said that no NFL owner is going to want a head coach that pulls off these kinds of antics. I don't always agree with Romey, but I know I wouldn't. You couldn't sleep or travel across the globe without worrying about what your HC is going to do next.

I thought the Vernon Davis move was bad but forgivable, I don't know about this one.....reallllllly outside the box move right there.