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TPD1479
11-10-2008, 10:47 PM
Sorry if already posted.......

Bonedoc7777
11-10-2008, 10:49 PM
another old player for a team that thinks this is the year, the phins are making younger players better and winning at the same time

ralphthedog
11-10-2008, 10:56 PM
I remember seeing Ty Law playing high school ball. it was his team against the school I graduated from. he dominated that game and helped his team crush my team. He was something special then.

I hope he does well with the jets...

Flip Tanneflop
11-10-2008, 11:04 PM
I guess instead of getting toasted in practice here, he wanted to get toasted in the meadowlands in week 17.

Phinsfan210
11-10-2008, 11:27 PM
Jets are morons. Just keep adding veterans and trying to build for this one year and next year, what a joke...

tcolli17
11-10-2008, 11:32 PM
Jets are morons. Just keep adding veterans and trying to build for this one year and next year, what a joke...
the jets a joke, you must be kidding:lol:

Joba-nator
11-10-2008, 11:36 PM
With a CB core of Revis and Butthead, who would have guess that the J-E-T-S are a J-O-K-E?

dreamwalker
11-10-2008, 11:40 PM
the jets a joke, you must be kidding:lol:


No, you are right, the jets are one step away from the super bowl- especially after beating the likes of the rams, bills, chiefs, Cincinnati and Arizona.

And they got the chance to show the world how great they are when they played Oakland.:unsure:

The jets WERE blessed with their easy part of the schedule early.
We are blessed OUR easy part is coming.

DolfanAdam
11-10-2008, 11:47 PM
My favorite part about NY's strategy is that if they don't win an SB in the next year or two (and they won't for the record) they will have wasted a TON of money and draft picks, and have to start up another rebuild process essentially taking them right out of playoff contention and back to the bottom of the AFC East, while we have somehow miraculously, gotten younger and healthier than ever, acquired more draft picks, and started WINNING despite all that! Meanwhile Buffalo, while promising at the beginning of the season has started to fall apart and New England without Brady and a tough schedule ahead appear about ready to follow suit. I'm just in love with the fact that everyone in the division is falling apart around us, except us.

neonleon
11-10-2008, 11:47 PM
Give me a reason not to sign him for 1 year deal .

looks like he's going to play nickle and dime back and maybe alittle safety

he only adds depth to a weak point on the jets roster if he's old and slow and gets burnt it's only for this year maybe he helps maybe he doesn't but worth a shot

dreamwalker
11-10-2008, 11:57 PM
Give me a reason not to sign him for 1 year deal .

looks like he's going to play nickle and dime back and maybe alittle safety

he only adds depth to a weak point on the jets roster if he's old and slow and gets burnt it's only for this year maybe he helps maybe he doesn't but worth a shot

Just one reason-ok fair enough.

Last game of the season, Pennington to Ginn on a 35 yard fade
Unfortunatly the Jets DB is on an island because Law is 10 yards behind catching his breath.
:woot:

neonleon
11-11-2008, 12:02 AM
i know cause Ginn looked so good against Revis what he have again 1 catch for 5 yards

ya he's worth a 1st round pick

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 12:17 AM
i know cause Ginn looked so good against Revis what he have again 1 catch for 5 yards

ya he's worth a 1st round pick

I am sorry but what in the world are you talking about?
How did you go from asking about law to bashing ginn for being a 1st round pick?

You asked for a reason we shouldnt have signed law and i gave you one. If you dont like Ginn just substitute ANYONES name for Ginn and ANYONES name for Pennington- the results would be the same

Law 10 yards behind gasping for breath. :lol:

SSnowman
11-11-2008, 12:18 AM
ya he's worth a 1st round pick


Kinda like Gholston?

neonleon
11-11-2008, 12:22 AM
Your saying Ginn is going to burn Law

I'm just pointing out that Law won't be covering Ginn it would be Revis .

They didn't sign Law to be a starter they signed him for depth at the CB position he's going to be playing nickle and dime

neonleon
11-11-2008, 12:24 AM
Kinda like Gholston?


Who knows what gholston is going to turn out to be it's not really fair to call him a bust 9 games into his pro career

SSnowman
11-11-2008, 12:26 AM
... and Ginn hasn't done anything? Have you watched him the last few games. He pretty much won the Bills game and has been commanding double teams allowing other receivers to produce.

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 12:27 AM
Your saying Ginn is going to burn Law

I'm just pointing out that Law won't be covering Ginn it would be Revis .

They didn't sign Law to be a starter they signed him for depth at the CB position he's going to be playing nickle and dime

and playing nickle and dime means he will be leaving the STARTER on an island. I am sorry, i should have broke it down a bit more for you.

Im not sure if you saw where i said "he will be leaving his DB on an island" but there you go.

there is a REAL and not IMANGINED reason why 32 teams passed on law over and over and over again for the last 10 weeks- dont you think?

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 12:28 AM
Who knows what gholston is going to turn out to be it's not really fair to call him a bust 9 games into his pro career

No we can wait until 25 :err:
No rush

neonleon
11-11-2008, 12:29 AM
... and Ginn hasn't done anything? Have you watched him the last few games. He pretty much won the Bills game and has been commanding double teams allowing other receivers to produce.


His one catch in double coverage was insane i'll give him that still not sure how he caught it

neonleon
11-11-2008, 12:37 AM
and playing nickle and dime means he will be leaving the STARTER on an island. I am sorry, i should have broke it down a bit more for you.

Im not sure if you saw where i said "he will be leaving his DB on an island" but there you go.

there is a REAL and not IMANGINED reason why 32 teams passed on law over and over and over again for the last 10 weeks- dont you think?


When you have a chance to upgrade your roster you do it .

Parcells does the same thing . Signing's like McChesney

Revis doesn't need help covering any receiver Miami has . You should watch him one game althought you probley won't hear his named called much since nobody throws to his side . Get use to your best receiver getting shut down everytime you play the jets

SSnowman
11-11-2008, 12:45 AM
Yeah I can make predictions too. Here's one, Jets get into the playoffs and Favre throws an interception while trying to make a 4th quarter comeback.

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 12:50 AM
When you have a chance to upgrade your roster you do it .

Parcells does the same thing . Signing's like McChesney

Revis doesn't need help covering any receiver Miami has . You should watch him one game althought you probley won't hear his named called much since nobody throws to his side . Get use to your best receiver getting shut down everytime you play the jets

Heres the problem, law is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

Signing law is like signing the refrigerator perry, john elway, dan fouts, ditka, marino or favre.

See- doesnt make sense does it.

just because they were good doesnt make them good, no matter how much you wish it.

And as it turns out 31 other teams thought the same way i do

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 12:52 AM
Yeah I can make predictions too. Here's one, Jets get into the playoffs and Favre throws an interception while trying to make a 4th quarter comeback.

I can make one too. the jets lose the next three to the Pats, Titans and Denver and spiral out of control until they are looking up at everyone else in the division and when Favre announces his retirement at the end of the year the new york head lines will be- no one cares Bret :unsure:
:woot:

Conan
11-11-2008, 08:59 AM
Ty Law is an aging player who may suffice throughout the remainder of the season, but not so smart by the jets only building for one year. As far as that ginn revis thing, Ginn has emerged as an excellent receiver, but i have yet to see a recceiver that Revis has not shut down.

nyjunc
11-11-2008, 09:41 AM
another old player for a team that thinks this is the year, the phins are making younger players better and winning at the same time

younger players like Chad and joey porter? those 2 are THE reasons you are playing so well. Law is coming in as a spare part. We have a good, young core that has already developed. We added some key vets to the mix and it's working.


Jets are morons. Just keep adding veterans and trying to build for this one year and next year, what a joke...



Yeah b/c we gave Ty a 7 year deal w/ $20 mil guaranteed:rolleyes2: How is Ty law for the rest of this year probably at the vets minimum going to hrt our future?


My favorite part about NY's strategy is that if they don't win an SB in the next year or two (and they won't for the record) they will have wasted a TON of money and draft picks, and have to start up another rebuild process essentially taking them right out of playoff contention and back to the bottom of the AFC East, while we have somehow miraculously, gotten younger and healthier than ever, acquired more draft picks, and started WINNING despite all that! Meanwhile Buffalo, while promising at the beginning of the season has started to fall apart and New England without Brady and a tough schedule ahead appear about ready to follow suit. I'm just in love with the fact that everyone in the division is falling apart around us, except us.

How are we falling apart when we are in first place and playing our best football of the year?

The only player we may have wasted picks on was Favre. Do you think we wasted picks on jenkins? plus we got picks back when we traded Vilma and Robertson. Our FO has done an exceptional job of drafting and this year w/ FA and trades.


Heres the problem, law is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

Signing law is like signing the refrigerator perry, john elway, dan fouts, ditka, marino or favre.

See- doesnt make sense does it.

just because they were good doesnt make them good, no matter how much you wish it.

And as it turns out 31 other teams thought the same way i do

How does it hurt us? if h doesn't perform he won't play, if he still has something left he can provide quality depth. Somnthing tells me if you guys signed him you wouldn't be saying these things. Kind of like how great Calvin pace was when the rumors were you had him signed then overnight he sucked b/c we signed him.


Ty Law is an aging player who may suffice throughout the remainder of the season, but not so smart by the jets only building for one year. As far as that ginn revis thing, Ginn has emerged as an excellent receiver, but i have yet to see a recceiver that Revis has not shut down.

Please explain how this move means we are building for one year? We have possibly the best corner in the game on the other side and ROOKIE Dwight Lowery has been solid. He looks to be our other corner of the future, how will signing Law for depth hurt that?

chibully
11-11-2008, 10:58 AM
And they got the chance to show the world how great they are when they played Oakland.:unsure:

and lost, might I add.

nyjunc
11-11-2008, 11:34 AM
and lost, might I add.

Just like you lost to Houston, got crushed by Arizona and oh yeah lost to the JETS! You guys can never enjoy any success, you just have to start trash talking. W/ each new year there's new hope and new trash talk- you never learn:shakeno:

Finch83
11-11-2008, 12:32 PM
This is a good pickup for the Jest. It cant hurt thats for sure.

They are playing some darn good football right now.

With that being said, I hope the Pats beat them.

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 05:34 PM
How does it hurt us? if h doesn't perform he won't play, if he still has something left he can provide quality depth. Somnthing tells me if you guys signed him you wouldn't be saying these things. Kind of like how great Calvin pace was when the rumors were you had him signed then overnight he sucked b/c we signed him.

:quiet:
I didnt mean for a jets fan to see this but ok- I am sure you wont know it hurts you until the game is on the line and law is in the nickle and find your db is on an island.

and unfortunatly I think at that point it will be a little late to ask how it can hurt you.

So another words- good signing! great job, i cant wait until he takes the field
:woot:

nyjunc
11-11-2008, 05:55 PM
:quiet:
I didnt mean for a jets fan to see this but ok- I am sure you wont know it hurts you until the game is on the line and law is in the nickle and find your db is on an island.

and unfortunatly I think at that point it will be a little late to ask how it can hurt you.

So another words- good signing! great job, i cant wait until he takes the field
:woot:

We don't even know what role he will play, either he upgrades what we have or he's not playing. You think they are just throwing him out there for his name? You don't think they felt he upgraed the depth? Not every team is as great as the Miami Dolphins, some teams need more help.

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 07:23 PM
We don't even know what role he will play, either he upgrades what we have or he's not playing. You think they are just throwing him out there for his name? You don't think they felt he upgraed the depth? Not every team is as great as the Miami Dolphins, some teams need more help.

I wont try to break it down again because i did it in another post i will just copy and paste what i said there

I explained this on an earlier thread but i will do it again. The problem with law is what you take as a positive. Law knows the game and he knows enough to get him INTO the game. It will not be until he is playing support, out of breath and five yards BEHIND where he is supposed to be (leaving your CB on an island) that you realize law was in fact not good for your team AND actually harmed your team.

What should worry you is that a Miami fan is extremley happy over this signing.

I also do not believe that the jets are in a position to win the division. They havent really proved any type of strength in the teams they have played- in fact the most telling is a game they didnt win but LOST Oakland. I can see why you would want to be optimistic but the tough part of your schedule is NOW and we will know if you are a pretender or a contender in two weeks.

Remember the only decent team you have beaten was Arizona. Yes you beat Miami (coming off their 1-15 season and was just starting to get their sea-legs)

Another telling sign will be when miami plays oakland this week. Maybe they match up well with the AFC east. If they beat us then you can breathe a sigh of relief. If not you better start worrying about Denver in 3 weeks.

At the beginning of the season I took Buffalo to win the division- thats not looking too good right now and as much as I LOVE Miami, we have a lot going against us right now. We cannot lose more than 2 games this year to get into the playoffs. That means we would have to sweep the bills, patriots and then beat the jets the last game of the season- that would also mean one of the other softer teams CANNOT upset us. That tells me the chances are slim THIS YEAR. THAT IS BEING REALISTIC. Especially the way thigpin has been playing with KC lately (that game scares me even though its WEEKS AWAY)

Being realistic puts a sup-par New England into the playoffs- although at this stage of the game I think the Jets and Miami is a better team- they just have a bit more experience coming through in pressure situations.

I also think the Jets are the dave wannstedt dolphins. They could have been a good team but they are starting to panic and make the wrong decisions. Favre was not a good decision, law is not a good decision and I was happy with both those calls. (another reason to doubt)

I do think you have a chance to make the playoffs IF you win 2 out of your next three games (a long shot at best) HOWEVER i would bet my house that once you were there your run would end with a patented late Favre interception.

If i were the owner of the jets I would start making changes to the team the second i lost 2 out of three games to the titans, pats or denver or I would start to believe Mangini was going to do to the jets what wannstedt did to the dolphins- which is destroy it from the ground up.

nyjunc
11-11-2008, 07:32 PM
I'm sorry I didn't notice all the juggernauts NE, Miami and Buffalo has beaten. We played awful for 3 weeks including the loss to oakland but we did win 2 of those 3- alot like you guys squaking out a win against the awful Seahawks and losing the then winless Texans.

The Jets are playing excelelnt football beating Buf ON THE ROAD giving Buf their only home loss of the year. Sure we still have alot to rpove but all the teams in the division do and we humilated Arizona who humiliated Miami. You can use all the excuses you want for week 1 but the bottom line is we were in a tougher spot and we won the game. You guys were at home, you have Chad who was familiar w/ that offense while we got favre who was in his first new system in 15-16 years.

As of TODAY the Jets are playing the bst football in the East, that could change qucikly Thursday or we could cement that. I think we have the best team and we are getting better and I expect to win Thursday Night.

What this has to do w/ Ty Law signing w/ us I don't know. He gives us better depth, this team looks NOTHING like the Wannstedt dolphins, we actually have a D that makes big stops and an O that can score. The only thing that is the same now as it was in the Wanny era is that we are STILL dominating the dolphins and that won't change in Week 17(unless we have the div and bye wrapped up).

We'll learn alot about the Jets the next 2 weeks, 2-0 and we are on our way to big things, 1-1 and we have a chance, 0-2 and we might be frauds.

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 07:47 PM
I'm sorry I didn't notice all the juggernauts NE, Miami and Buffalo has beaten. We played awful for 3 weeks including the loss to oakland but we did win 2 of those 3- alot like you guys squaking out a win against the awful Seahawks and losing the then winless Texans.

The Jets are playing excelelnt football beating Buf ON THE ROAD giving Buf their only home loss of the year. Sure we still have alot to rpove but all the teams in the division do and we humilated Arizona who humiliated Miami. You can use all the excuses you want for week 1 but the bottom line is we were in a tougher spot and we won the game. You guys were at home, you have Chad who was familiar w/ that offense while we got favre who was in his first new system in 15-16 years.

As of TODAY the Jets are playing the bst football in the East, that could change qucikly Thursday or we could cement that. I think we have the best team and we are getting better and I expect to win Thursday Night.

What this has to do w/ Ty Law signing w/ us I don't know. He gives us better depth, this team looks NOTHING like the Wannstedt dolphins, we actually have a D that makes big stops and an O that can score. The only thing that is the same now as it was in the Wanny era is that we are STILL dominating the dolphins and that won't change in Week 17(unless we have the div and bye wrapped up).

We'll learn alot about the Jets the next 2 weeks, 2-0 and we are on our way to big things, 1-1 and we have a chance, 0-2 and we might be frauds.

I am sorry i thought i made it clear i was doing a copy and paste from another post but i forgot you were a jets fan- i will do better next time.

1) the quality miami wins were SD, Patriots and Denver thats not elite but they are still better than anything the jets pulled off.

2) And the teams Miami has lost to were division leading Arizona, division leading Jets, the 6-3 ravens and a team miami has never beaten. How about you making a list like that- just for giggles.

I will go ahead and let you have the last word, i have a headache right now.

Maybe I will check back in 3 weeks when the jets record is 6-6
:woot:

Conan
11-11-2008, 08:26 PM
Nyjunc I said Law will probably suffice for this year, I thought it was a decent signing. I'm not so convinced about lowery, though he is just a rookie

neonleon
11-11-2008, 09:57 PM
I am sorry i thought i made it clear i was doing a copy and paste from another post but i forgot you were a jets fan- i will do better next time.

1) the quality miami wins were SD, Patriots and Denver thats not elite but they are still better than anything the jets pulled off.

2) And the teams Miami has lost to were division leading Arizona, division leading Jets, the 6-3 ravens and a team miami has never beaten. How about you making a list like that- just for giggles.

I will go ahead and let you have the last word, i have a headache right now.

Maybe I will check back in 3 weeks when the jets record is 6-6
:woot:


i wouldn't call SD or denver good teams right now that both looking at 8-8 at best

yes SD beat us and will see about denver in a couple weeks

dreamwalker
11-11-2008, 10:03 PM
i wouldn't call SD or denver good teams right now that both looking at 8-8 at best

yes SD beat us and will see about denver in a couple weeks

I didnt ask you for your opinion, i asked you to break it down simply like i did.

Miami beat
Denver- DIVISION LEADER
Patriots- DIVISION LEADER
San Diego-probably a 500 club
Buffalo- probably a 500 club
Seattle- probably a sub 500 club

Miami lost
Ravens- DIVISION LEADER
Arizona- DIVISION LEADER
Jets- DIVISION LEADER
Houston- Whom we have never beaten

Now your turn, that way we can get a glimpse of what the jets are really like.

Actually let me help you out with that

Jets wins
Arizona- DIVISION LEADER
Miami-probably a 500 club
Cincinnati- A sub 500 club
Kansas City A sub 500 club
Rams- A sub 500 club

Jets Losses
New England- DIVISION LEADER
San Diego- A 500 club
Oakland- A sub 500 club

Now let me help you out with the breakdown. One is pathetic and one is not- can you pick the pathetic one out?

SebasMiamiFan
11-11-2008, 11:53 PM
I agree with Dreamwalker. The Jets have had flashes, but that doesn't make them a great team. A defense like Tennessee could easily shut you down and force like 5 Ints on you guys. KC should have won that game. Denver almost beat us and they appear to have gained their momentum back. Seattle almost beat us, but they came to play and it was a trap game. Houston is not a bad team and Baltimore is showing signs of a juggernaut team in the years to come, like Miami. Buffalo is going down hill so you beat them at the wrong time. We beat them when they were confident. You beat the 1-15 team, not the 5-4 team. It will be a much different game in week 17. NE should win the game on Thursday. Jets should be confident as they are tied for 1st, technically 2nd. If they lose the next 3 games, they won't win the division.

Zandimd
11-11-2008, 11:57 PM
ginna much much much imroved from week one, + him and pennington are getting on the same page. I would never take anything away from revis i think he is a good corner, but ginn will have a much better game against the jests next time they play

neonleon
11-12-2008, 12:07 AM
I didnt ask you for your opinion, i asked you to break it down simply like i did.

Miami beat
Denver- DIVISION LEADER
Patriots- DIVISION LEADER
San Diego-probably a 500 club
Buffalo- probably a 500 club
Seattle- probably a sub 500 club

Miami lost
Ravens- DIVISION LEADER
Arizona- DIVISION LEADER
Jets- DIVISION LEADER
Houston- Whom we have never beaten

Now your turn, that way we can get a glimpse of what the jets are really like.

Actually let me help you out with that

Jets wins
Arizona- DIVISION LEADER
Miami-probably a 500 club
Cincinnati- A sub 500 club
Kansas City A sub 500 club
Rams- A sub 500 club

Jets Losses
New England- DIVISION LEADER
San Diego- A 500 club
Oakland- A sub 500 club

Now let me help you out with the breakdown. One is pathetic and one is not- can you pick the pathetic one out?


not saying that there schedule wasn't easy for the fiirst part . From here on out i think the jets have the hardest schedule in the afc east and the dolphins have the easiest by far Denver might be the division leader but they still aren't a good team

dreamwalker
11-12-2008, 12:32 AM
not saying that there schedule wasn't easy for the fiirst part . From here on out i think the jets have the hardest schedule in the afc east and the dolphins have the easiest by far Denver might be the division leader but they still aren't a good team

Remember what you said about denver and then return here and 3 weeks and then we will talk.

There will be nothing more funny than you telling the world Denvers not a good team after they beat you 34-10
:sidelol:

Now that you managed to clear denver off the list how about trashing the other teams we beat that you DID NOT.

I honestly do not blame you for being in NEVER NEVER land with your record but at least i am being honest about our chances and our team. You cant even be honest with yourself

nyjunc
11-12-2008, 09:15 AM
I am sorry i thought i made it clear i was doing a copy and paste from another post but i forgot you were a jets fan- i will do better next time.

1) the quality miami wins were SD, Patriots and Denver thats not elite but they are still better than anything the jets pulled off.

2) And the teams Miami has lost to were division leading Arizona, division leading Jets, the 6-3 ravens and a team miami has never beaten. How about you making a list like that- just for giggles.

I will go ahead and let you have the last word, i have a headache right now.

Maybe I will check back in 3 weeks when the jets record is 6-6
:woot:

Denver and SD are quality wins? You have 1 real quality win and that was over NE.

But according to you week 1 the team was last year's team sop you lost to the 4-12 jets not the 1st place Jets. You got smoked by Arizona, I don't buyt the "they always beat us" stuff about Houston b/c the Rams always beat us- how did that work out on Sunday? We had lost 7 straight to the Rams.

You make alot of nice excuses but the bottom line is we are better. You guys have done a great job winning 5 games(you should be thanking us b/c w/o the Favre move you wouldn't have Chad and would probably have about 2 wins) but let's not get carried away. Let's see how you handle some prosperity, you didn't do well w/ it vs. Houston, let's see how you fare these next few weeks when you are favored in all those games.


I agree with Dreamwalker. The Jets have had flashes, but that doesn't make them a great team. A defense like Tennessee could easily shut you down and force like 5 Ints on you guys. KC should have won that game. Denver almost beat us and they appear to have gained their momentum back. Seattle almost beat us, but they came to play and it was a trap game. Houston is not a bad team and Baltimore is showing signs of a juggernaut team in the years to come, like Miami. Buffalo is going down hill so you beat them at the wrong time. We beat them when they were confident. You beat the 1-15 team, not the 5-4 team. It will be a much different game in week 17. NE should win the game on Thursday. Jets should be confident as they are tied for 1st, technically 2nd. If they lose the next 3 games, they won't win the division.

Denver appears to have their momentum back b/c thye beat the awful Browns? They have lost 3 of 4 and 4 of 6.

Houston isn't bad when their best win is over Miamio but SL is horrible when they beat washington and Dallas?

baltimore is showing signs of a juggernaut? They have the same record as the jets, are the Jets showing these signs? Again, Baltimore's best win was Miami, they ahven't beaten any other decent teams. bal is 1-3 against teams w/ winning records and 5-0 against teams w/ losing records. You guys see how silly this all sounds making your sched out to be much better than it is? Dig deeper than just the records.

SpurzN703
11-12-2008, 11:01 AM
Just like you lost to Houston, got crushed by Arizona and oh yeah lost to the JETS! You guys can never enjoy any success, you just have to start trash talking. W/ each new year there's new hope and new trash talk- you never learn:shakeno:

Don't let a few spoiled eggs make you think we're all trash talking man

SpurzN703
11-12-2008, 11:47 AM
Denver and SD are quality wins? You have 1 real quality win and that was over NE.

But according to you week 1 the team was last year's team sop you lost to the 4-12 jets not the 1st place Jets. You got smoked by Arizona, I don't buyt the "they always beat us" stuff about Houston b/c the Rams always beat us- how did that work out on Sunday? We had lost 7 straight to the Rams.

You make alot of nice excuses but the bottom line is we are better. You guys have done a great job winning 5 games(you should be thanking us b/c w/o the Favre move you wouldn't have Chad and would probably have about 2 wins) but let's not get carried away. Let's see how you handle some prosperity, you didn't do well w/ it vs. Houston, let's see how you fare these next few weeks when you are favored in all those games.





Yeah and the Jets got spanked by San Diego and lost to Oakland.

**** happens man. Who cares who's better then who at Week 11. The Jets are in a better position then the Dolphins currently b/c they didn't have a moron head coach and an incompetent GM like the Dolphins did last year.

That being said, the Jets are just a game better and that one game was the head to head matchup that the Jets won by a whopping 6 points.

Also, you're saying the Dolphins success is purely b/c the Jets let Pennington go? So basically, the Jets are the reason why the Dolphins are decent again.

So basically, NY Jets = God?

;)

Finch83
11-12-2008, 12:47 PM
Just like you lost to Houston, got crushed by Arizona and oh yeah lost to the JETS! You guys can never enjoy any success, you just have to start trash talking. W/ each new year there's new hope and new trash talk- you never learn:shakeno:

"SCREW YOU GUYS I AM GOING HOME!":lol:

nyjunc
11-12-2008, 03:44 PM
Yeah and the Jets got spanked by San Diego and lost to Oakland.

**** happens man. Who cares who's better then who at Week 11. The Jets are in a better position then the Dolphins currently b/c they didn't have a moron head coach and an incompetent GM like the Dolphins did last year.

That being said, the Jets are just a game better and that one game was the head to head matchup that the Jets won by a whopping 6 points.

Also, you're saying the Dolphins success is purely b/c the Jets let Pennington go? So basically, the Jets are the reason why the Dolphins are decent again.

So basically, NY Jets = God?

;)


WE did lose to SD and Oak but that doesn't make SD a quality win. Outside of that game SD has looked pretty poor all year long we just happened to look alot worse that night.

I do think Miami being 5-4 is a direct result of the Favre move. Obviously it's not all Chad and you improved around the QB but he has been a difference maker and I think you'd have 2-3 wins now instead of 5 so yes thank us for that gift:D

SpurzN703
11-12-2008, 03:46 PM
WE did lose to SD and Oak but that doesn't make SD a quality win. Outside of that game SD has looked pretty poor all year long we just happened to look alot worse that night.

I do think Miami being 5-4 is a direct result of the Favre move. Obviously it's not all Chad and you improved around the QB but he has been a difference maker and I think you'd have 2-3 wins now instead of 5 so yes thank us for that gift:D

Well we actually need to thank Green Bay for letting Favre go first, then we can argue about what came next

;)

dreamwalker
11-12-2008, 05:29 PM
Denver and SD are quality wins? You have 1 real quality win and that was over NE.

But according to you week 1 the team was last year's team sop you lost to the 4-12 jets not the 1st place Jets. You got smoked by Arizona, I don't buyt the "they always beat us" stuff about Houston b/c the Rams always beat us- how did that work out on Sunday? We had lost 7 straight to the Rams.

You make alot of nice excuses but the bottom line is we are better. You guys have done a great job winning 5 games(you should be thanking us b/c w/o the Favre move you wouldn't have Chad and would probably have about 2 wins) but let's not get carried away. Let's see how you handle some prosperity, you didn't do well w/ it vs. Houston, let's see how you fare these next few weeks when you are favored in all those games.



Denver appears to have their momentum back b/c thye beat the awful Browns? They have lost 3 of 4 and 4 of 6.

Houston isn't bad when their best win is over Miamio but SL is horrible when they beat washington and Dallas?

baltimore is showing signs of a juggernaut? They have the same record as the jets, are the Jets showing these signs? Again, Baltimore's best win was Miami, they ahven't beaten any other decent teams. bal is 1-3 against teams w/ winning records and 5-0 against teams w/ losing records. You guys see how silly this all sounds making your sched out to be much better than it is? Dig deeper than just the records.

Do you know how you know its time to call? :bs:
You give something simple for someone to do and they stretch out why they are right in 3 paragraphs. Lets try to do this again and since i am not being biased lets try to see you do it
Break it down for me like i break it down for you

Miami beat
Denver- DIVISION LEADER
Patriots- DIVISION LEADER
San Diego-probably a 500 club
Buffalo- probably a 500 club
Seattle- probably a sub 500 club

Miami lost
Ravens- DIVISION LEADER
Arizona- DIVISION LEADER
Jets- DIVISION LEADER
Houston- Whom we have never beaten

Jets wins
Arizona- DIVISION LEADER
Miami-probably a 500 club
Cincinnati- A sub 500 club
Kansas City A sub 500 club
Rams- A sub 500 club

Jets Losses
New England- DIVISION LEADER
San Diego- A 500 club
Oakland- A sub 500 club

Now your turn, that way we can get a glimpse of what the jets are really like.

nyjunc
11-13-2008, 09:08 AM
Do you know how you know its time to call? :bs:
You give something simple for someone to do and they stretch out why they are right in 3 paragraphs. Lets try to do this again and since i am not being biased lets try to see you do it
Break it down for me like i break it down for you

Miami beat
Denver- DIVISION LEADER
Patriots- DIVISION LEADER
San Diego-probably a 500 club
Buffalo- probably a 500 club
Seattle- probably a sub 500 club

Miami lost
Ravens- DIVISION LEADER
Arizona- DIVISION LEADER
Jets- DIVISION LEADER
Houston- Whom we have never beaten

Jets wins
Arizona- DIVISION LEADER
Miami-probably a 500 club
Cincinnati- A sub 500 club
Kansas City A sub 500 club
Rams- A sub 500 club

Jets Losses
New England- DIVISION LEADER
San Diego- A 500 club
Oakland- A sub 500 club

Now your turn, that way we can get a glimpse of what the jets are really like.

The problem is that it's not as black and white as you make it seem. denver isn't very good, The ravens have only baten 1 team w/ a winning record and that was Miami, and who cares if you never beat Houston? They stink, again we hadn't beaten the Rams since 1983 and the rams have actually beaten good teams this year and we smoked them.

We are playing better football right now beating Buf on the road(their only home loss of the season) and whipping SL who had been playing well since Haslett took over while you guys beat a struggling Denver team 2 weeks ago(apparently needed a blown call to do so) and struggled vs. an awful Seattle team at home where Seattle when good never fares well on the East Coast.

SpurzN703
11-13-2008, 11:28 AM
The problem is that it's not as black and white as you make it seem. denver isn't very good, The ravens have only baten 1 team w/ a winning record and that was Miami, and who cares if you never beat Houston? They stink, again we hadn't beaten the Rams since 1983 and the rams have actually beaten good teams this year and we smoked them.

We are playing better football right now beating Buf on the road(their only home loss of the season) and whipping SL who had been playing well since Haslett took over while you guys beat a struggling Denver team 2 weeks ago(apparently needed a blown call to do so) and struggled vs. an awful Seattle team at home where Seattle when good never fares well on the East Coast.

People just don't get that an NFL team, despite their record, can beat any other NFL team. It happens, they're all professionals.

I'm not disclaiming anything the Jets are doing, it's just retarded to continue having this conversation about who's better. Even if the Jets are better, what's the big deal? It's just football for christ sake.

SpurzN703
11-13-2008, 11:30 AM
The Rams can beat anyone, the Chiefs can beat anyone, even the Lions, though they haven't yet, can beat anyone.

Good teams lose games. There's a reason why a perfect season has only occurred one. Teams are allowed to lose games

nyjunc
11-13-2008, 02:45 PM
People just don't get that an NFL team, despite their record, can beat any other NFL team. It happens, they're all professionals.

I'm not disclaiming anything the Jets are doing, it's just retarded to continue having this conversation about who's better. Even if the Jets are better, what's the big deal? It's just football for christ sake.

It's all in fun though. In reality it's meaninglesss to our real lives but I have fun escaping real life arguing about sports.

dreamwalker
11-13-2008, 05:19 PM
The problem is that it's not as black and white as you make it seem. denver isn't very good, The ravens have only baten 1 team w/ a winning record and that was Miami, and who cares if you never beat Houston? They stink, again we hadn't beaten the Rams since 1983 and the rams have actually beaten good teams this year and we smoked them.

We are playing better football right now beating Buf on the road(their only home loss of the season) and whipping SL who had been playing well since Haslett took over while you guys beat a struggling Denver team 2 weeks ago(apparently needed a blown call to do so) and struggled vs. an awful Seattle team at home where Seattle when good never fares well on the East Coast.

I usually dont mind discussing football with you and i notice you do have a few good arguments about things but then while discussing why the jets are better and why we should not take into account who they have beaten and lost too you stun me with this.

1st) The problem is that it's not as black and white as you make it seem

and then follow it up wit this

2nd) The ravens have only baten 1 team w/ a winning record

and want others to come to the conclusion that

Jets are better than who they have beaten and lost to.

I had to stop there, i was kind of disappointed with the conversation :unsure:

jetsman
11-14-2008, 04:16 AM
I can make one too. the jets lose the next three to the Pats, Titans and Denver and spiral out of control until they are looking up at everyone else in the division and when Favre announces his retirement at the end of the year the new york head lines will be- no one cares Bret :unsure:
:woot:


Ohhh,I like this game.Can I play too?I predict the Jets beat the Pats AND the Titans to take a complete strangle hold on this division!!We are gelling as a team and all the new pieces have been together long enough to figure out what they are supposed to do now.Our offense is firing on all cylinders and we are the highest scoring offense in the NFL.Our defense is stopping the run and forcing teams to pass.If you don't have a QB who can take over a game without help from his running game you are in deep doo-doo against the Jets.Special teams are pretty special too,in case you haven't been watching......:D:D:D

jetsman
11-14-2008, 04:30 AM
ginna much much much imroved from week one, + him and pennington are getting on the same page. I would never take anything away from revis i think he is a good corner, but ginn will have a much better game against the jests next time they play
You mean he might actually catch a pass when matched up on Revis??He didn't last time and one other thing........Revis has improved since that last game too.Don't forget,he is also in his second year.Revis will shut Ginn down big-time,bank on it.

Conan
11-14-2008, 08:30 AM
Well Law performed quite well

neonleon
11-14-2008, 11:55 AM
Well Law performed quite well

Sure did was on Moss all night held him to 2 ctahces untill the final play in regulation . It wouldn't of made a diffrence who was on him there's no covering a perfect pass . Still don't think his one foot was ever on the ground

kilgore Trout
11-14-2008, 02:55 PM
Well Law performed quite well
Considering how long he hasn't played, I thought he played very well. Putting him in man coverage, however, was a mistake. I think it was a decent move. Definately does not hurt!! Vet minimum for spot duty and depth was a good deal.

Also, Darelle Revis gets to play with his mentor and learn a few tricks.

dreamwalker
11-14-2008, 05:09 PM
Ohhh,I like this game.Can I play too?I predict the Jets beat the Pats AND the Titans to take a complete strangle hold on this division!!We are gelling as a team and all the new pieces have been together long enough to figure out what they are supposed to do now.Our offense is firing on all cylinders and we are the highest scoring offense in the NFL.Our defense is stopping the run and forcing teams to pass.If you don't have a QB who can take over a game without help from his running game you are in deep doo-doo against the Jets.Special teams are pretty special too,in case you haven't been watching......:D:D:D

Wanna play, how about money vs you never posting jet drival again here?
They beat a beaten and a bad NE team, and BARELY. I will take the titans and you can just disappear. :err:

Go figure, 3 am, I got to give you credit for showing up AFTER the money was on the line. Your cohorts get more of my respect

dreamwalker
11-14-2008, 05:12 PM
Considering how long he hasn't played, I thought he played very well. Putting him in man coverage, however, was a mistake. I think it was a decent move. Definately does not hurt!! Vet minimum for spot duty and depth was a good deal.

Also, Darelle Revis gets to play with his mentor and learn a few tricks.

You have a bit of my respect and deserve to post. You posted your opinion before the game- thats class. Law had his problems but he didnt embarrass himself, so far I was wrong and you deserve to hear that.:clap:

KlausC
11-14-2008, 08:09 PM
You have a bit of my respect and deserve to post. You posted your opinion before the game- thats class. Law had his problems but he didnt embarrass himself, so far I was wrong and you deserve to hear that.:clap:
I figured he'd be an upgrade at the Nickel position, but he stepped right in and played very good for a guy that has been out of football for 10 months. He looks like he's easily our second best CB after one game. Nice pickup so far.

jetsman
11-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Wanna play, how about money vs you never posting jet drival again here?
They beat a beaten and a bad NE team, and BARELY. I will take the titans and you can just disappear. :err:

Go figure, 3 am, I got to give you credit for showing up AFTER the money was on the line. Your cohorts get more of my respect
NE is beaten and BAD???Since when??Do you think Brady would have put up better numbers than Cassel did??What he passes for 1,000 yards?Wake up and stop trying so hard to be superior to every other poster.I could CARE LESS if you respect me.I don't come to message boards looking for respect from 12 year olds.We had injuries too,including our leading tackler and MLB.

Oh,and WHAT MONEY??????Have we played the Titans yet?No,didn't think so.........

shula_guy
11-15-2008, 08:40 PM
The Titans game could be a good test for the Jets, but you cant take anything away from that game thursday night it was a hard fought game that could of went either way. I dont think Brady could of done any better against the jets secondary. Those guys were almost flawless that game.

nyjunc
11-16-2008, 09:31 AM
The Titans game could be a good test for the Jets, but you cant take anything away from that game thursday night it was a hard fought game that could of went either way. I dont think Brady could of done any better against the jets secondary. Those guys were almost flawless that game.

You can't take anything away from the game Thursday? So winning in a difficult place to win w/ 1st place on the line after blowing a big lead and seeing a game tied on the last play from scrimmage in regulation is not a big deal? We can't take anything away from that? To me that shows incredible heart and mental toughness to come back and win that game after playing so poorly in the 2nd half and giving up that TD w/ 1 sec left.

dreamwalker
11-17-2008, 09:48 PM
NE is beaten and BAD???Since when??Do you think Brady would have put up better numbers than Cassel did??What he passes for 1,000 yards?Wake up and stop trying so hard to be superior to every other poster.I could CARE LESS if you respect me.I don't come to message boards looking for respect from 12 year olds.We had injuries too,including our leading tackler and MLB.

Oh,and WHAT MONEY??????Have we played the Titans yet?No,didn't think so.........

I realized I lost a bit of respect for myself for having just taken part in this conversation. So I will go ahead and let you believe the 12 year old comment stung. Enjoy this week while you can. Now I am off to take a shower and take some pepto bismol :unsure: