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SebasMiamiFan
11-30-2008, 05:44 PM
Well Buffalo lost. They are 6-6.
NE is up by 7, but the Steelers are threatening.
Denver is up 14-7 over the Jets.

It was an ugly win, but we managed to defeat them in the end. If anyone is watching the Jets game, they used the Wildcat and used the play we used on Houston. However, it backfired and Denver recovered a fumble for a TD.

houtz
11-30-2008, 05:46 PM
Don't forget to add Edwards went down. If he can't play next week that would be a huge blow.

We'll know a lot around 7Pm est on how we stand in the playoff picture.

SebasMiamiFan
11-30-2008, 05:48 PM
Don't forget to add Edwards went down. If he can't play next week that would be a huge blow.

We'll know a lot around 7Pm est on how we stand in the playoff picture.
Definitely. If NE loses I think we'll pass them for 2nd place again. NYJ will be ahead of us by 1 game if they lose. Buff is most likely out of the picture.

feelthepain
11-30-2008, 05:56 PM
Miami is lucky to have 7 wins and we shouldn't even be talking playoffs, we're simply an awful team.

ChambersWI
11-30-2008, 06:04 PM
awful? FTP, we have very little talent on either side of the ball, and have been in almost every game this season. Can't you just be happy we've got more wins than last year when we have very little talent?

emeraldfin
11-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Jets are getting dominated by the Broncos.

Apart from two big runs from Jones, this one would be over. With the way Cutler is playing I dont see the Broncos falling apart either.

emeraldfin
11-30-2008, 07:02 PM
Miami is lucky to have 7 wins and we shouldn't even be talking playoffs, we're simply an awful team.

Does'nt actually matter at the end of the day.

I'd rather the Fins play bad and win, than play good and lose.

feelthepain
11-30-2008, 07:23 PM
Does'nt actually matter at the end of the day.

I'd rather the Fins play bad and win, than play good and lose.

Me too, it doesn't change the fact that we're awful. The Coaches have doine a great job preaching how not to turn over the football, but they fall terribly short on how to not make a 100 other mistakes on a regular basis.

feelthepain
11-30-2008, 07:25 PM
awful? FTP, we have very little talent on either side of the ball, and have been in almost every game this season. Can't you just be happy we've got more wins than last year when we have very little talent?

You think I enjoy saying we're awful? Not exactly, but we are no different than last year except we're winng the close games instead of losing them. We weren't as bad as our record showed last year and we're not as good as our record shows this year. We're a sub 500. team still missing a ton of talent.

emeraldfin
11-30-2008, 07:34 PM
Me too, it doesn't change the fact that we're awful. The Coaches have doine a great job preaching how not to turn over the football, but they fall terribly short on how to not make a 100 other mistakes on a regular basis.

I not going to disagree with you on the play calling FTP, has been pretty poor and their is no doubt Miami are benefiting from a weak schedule.

But with the way things are going at the moment, the Fins could well be 7-5 along with the Pats and one game behind the Jets by this evening. The Fins dont deserve to be there, but they are still hanging around which is credit to the team.

Deep2Evans
12-01-2008, 01:09 AM
Miami is lucky to have 7 wins and we shouldn't even be talking playoffs, we're simply an awful team.


The Bills are awfully worse. Our seasons been over for two weeks now, I expect a Miami blow out next Sunday, the Bills are toast, the coach is a joke, and after this week, I doubt the players care. Miami still has something to play for, it could get ugly.

Locke
12-01-2008, 03:06 AM
You think I enjoy saying we're awful? Not exactly, but we are no different than last year except we're winng the close games instead of losing them. We weren't as bad as our record showed last year and we're not as good as our record shows this year. We're a sub 500. team still missing a ton of talent.

The 2001 Patriots had the same mantra about them. No superstars, just a bunch of average athletes being coached really really well. I'm not saying we are going to win the Superbowl, I don't even think we make the playoffs, but I don't think these statements are fair...

Dolpfan_72
12-01-2008, 03:55 AM
The Bills are awfully worse. Our seasons been over for two weeks now, I expect a Miami blow out next Sunday, the Bills are toast, the coach is a joke, and after this week, I doubt the players care. Miami still has something to play for, it could get ugly.
There, there Deep2Evans. It isn't all bad news. Evans is still helping out my fantasy team even when the Bills lose. :D

Dolpfan_72
12-01-2008, 04:07 AM
If anyone is watching the Jets game, they used the Wildcat and used the play we used on Houston. However, it backfired and Denver recovered a fumble for a TD.Yeah I saw that. I couldn't stop laughing at the clueless look on Favre's face almost as if he was thinking, "Huh. That worked better in practice." :lol:

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2008/12/jetslogoqn2-1.jpg

feelthepain
12-01-2008, 07:32 AM
The 2001 Patriots had the same mantra about them. No superstars, just a bunch of average athletes being coached really really well. I'm not saying we are going to win the Superbowl, I don't even think we make the playoffs, but I don't think these statements are fair...

The Dolphins have had trouble running the ball all year, it's not because these guy's can't it's because they don't try hard enough to get it done. I find that really hard to understand given the fact that TS job in Dallas was as the Oline coach. If anything you'd think the running game would be a strength. Ronnie has talent, Ricky has talent and Patrick Cobbs has talent, these guys should be running the ball all day and keeping the D fresh, instead we get the ball and go 3 and out time after time.

We should be running the ball to set up the pass instead we're constantly in 3rd and long and trying to pass for first downs. I think the coaching is really good in some areas and really bad in others. I refuse to give this team credit for beating teams that are flat out awful, especially when they win the games in the very last second week after week. Just because we have more wins than the Rams doesn't make us better. Sorry, but we have a loooong ways to go before we are anywheres close to a decent team.

PhinzN703
12-01-2008, 10:33 AM
Miami is lucky to have 7 wins and we shouldn't even be talking playoffs, we're simply an awful team.

There's always at least one nay-sayer no matter what the real story is

PhinzN703
12-01-2008, 10:34 AM
The Bills are awfully worse. Our seasons been over for two weeks now, I expect a Miami blow out next Sunday, the Bills are toast, the coach is a joke, and after this week, I doubt the players care. Miami still has something to play for, it could get ugly.

And if the Bills win by 50 next week, your attitude will change. Just give it some time man, the negativity will fade soon

Deep2Evans
12-01-2008, 11:57 AM
And if the Bills win by 50 next week, your attitude will change. Just give it some time man, the negativity will fade soon

Not really. We're still done. A win would be 7-6. We would still have to win out, @NYJ, @Denver and VS. New England, LOL. Theres no chance in hell that happens, there would be nothing to be excited about, if anything, it might help Dick keep his job, which would be the worst thing possible.

burger13
12-01-2008, 04:07 PM
The Dolphins have had trouble running the ball all year, it's not because these guy's can't it's because they don't try hard enough to get it done. I find that really hard to understand given the fact that TS job in Dallas was as the Oline coach. If anything you'd think the running game would be a strength. Ronnie has talent, Ricky has talent and Patrick Cobbs has talent, these guys should be running the ball all day and keeping the D fresh, instead we get the ball and go 3 and out time after time.

We should be running the ball to set up the pass instead we're constantly in 3rd and long and trying to pass for first downs. I think the coaching is really good in some areas and really bad in others. I refuse to give this team credit for beating teams that are flat out awful, especially when they win the games in the very last second week after week. Just because we have more wins than the Rams doesn't make us better. Sorry, but we have a loooong ways to go before we are anywheres close to a decent team.

dude, by your criteria, there might be about 7-8 teams in the entire league who aren't awful.

we've won 5 of our last 6, and 7 of our last 10. I don't give a crap who we are doing it against or how we are going it.....that is in no way awful. There are 7 awful teams in this league by my count: Detroit, Cincy, SF, Seattle, Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis. Those teams find ways to lose games, like us last year.

We are far from great at this point, but also far from awful.

feelthepain
12-01-2008, 04:31 PM
dude, by your criteria, there might be about 7-8 teams in the entire league who aren't awful.

we've won 5 of our last 6, and 7 of our last 10. I don't give a crap who we are doing it against or how we are going it.....that is in no way awful. There are 7 awful teams in this league by my count: Detroit, Cincy, SF, Seattle, Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis. Those teams find ways to lose games, like us last year.

We are far from great at this point, but also far from awful.



I don't care about 7 or 8 teams. I go by where we are and what we are doing weekly. My opinion of this team is based oin where they are "right now" not the direction they're headed and how the future looks. Miami has way too many issues right now. We do some things well, like TO's, redzone offense and rushing D, but we are not good on ST..as a whole, running the ball, pass defense, pressuring the QB.

I think the Dolphins are being coached really well, but we lack talnt in a few key startiung positions and much of our depth. We are what we are, but I'm not going to ignore how we struggle against teams that are far worse than us and pretend a win is a win, cause a "win is a win" only matters if you're a legit playoff team, not a team that has no chance to win once you get in. Yes I know once the post season begins anything can happaen, but we aren't nearly good enough to be that team. I see nothing wrong with looking at this team realistically.

burger13
12-01-2008, 05:18 PM
I don't care about 7 or 8 teams. I go by where we are and what we are doing weekly. My opinion of this team is based oin where they are "right now" not the direction they're headed and how the future looks. Miami has way too many issues right now. We do some things well, like TO's, redzone offense and rushing D, but we are not good on ST..as a whole, running the ball, pass defense, pressuring the QB.

I think the Dolphins are being coached really well, but we lack talnt in a few key startiung positions and much of our depth. We are what we are, but I'm not going to ignore how we struggle against teams that are far worse than us and pretend a win is a win, cause a "win is a win" only matters if you're a legit playoff team, not a team that has no chance to win once you get in. Yes I know once the post season begins anything can happaen, but we aren't nearly good enough to be that team. I see nothing wrong with looking at this team realistically.

I don't disagree with anything you said here.......you didn't use the word 'awful' once. ;)

We are an average team at this point....which is great considering where we were a year ago this time.

djfresh47
12-01-2008, 05:47 PM
The Jets went from looking great to getting punched in the face by a finesse team. Buffalo looked awful. They're a poorly coached team. New England just played an elite team IMO. I think it's fairly obvious the Dolphins lack a real playmaker at WR. Beat the teams you're supposed to beat. I think teams are rising to the top of the AFC. In no particular order i'd say the Titans, Steelers, and Colts. Indy played awful. I won't hide that. When Peyton Manning is going well I think they've got a chance. I'm reluctant to put the Jets in that category. They're good and should win the East. If Favre plays conservative they win.

Still it doesn't matter. The Giants look great. I think the only team that could give them trouble is the Cowboys.