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Fins_ColtsFan
12-01-2008, 12:52 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3735466

SRM
12-01-2008, 01:02 AM
The Browns are screwed..

ADavieDolphin
12-01-2008, 01:53 AM
ken dorsey? ROFL
they wont win another game....

Dolpfan_72
12-01-2008, 03:45 AM
Poor Brownies. It boggles the mind how they are this bad. This was supposed to be the year for them. It's better to be in our situation and have no hopes and overachieve than to have high hopes and epic fail like this.

CedarPhin
12-01-2008, 04:04 AM
Looks like Dorseys in the rest of the year.

Wish him luck. He's going to need it.

BobDole
12-01-2008, 04:09 AM
they went from having the best qb situation in the league to ken freakin dorsey. grab your ankles cleveland.

Dolpfan_72
12-01-2008, 04:15 AM
they went from having the best qb situation in the league to ken freakin dorsey. grab your ankles cleveland.

I guess this means we have the best QB situation in the league now by default.

Cleveland Browns:
Quinn: IR, Anderson: IR, Dorsey: Starting

Miami Dolphins:
Pennington: Starting, Henne: Reserve, Beck: Inactive (but healty)

SpaceMountain16
12-01-2008, 09:13 AM
Unfortunately Anderson played yesterday, enough to give the Colts the game anyway.

dlockz
12-01-2008, 10:26 AM
I guess this means we have the best QB situation in the league now by default.

Cleveland Browns:
Quinn: IR, Anderson: IR, Dorsey: Starting

Miami Dolphins:
Pennington: Starting, Henne: Reserve, Beck: Inactive (but healty)



Im confused by that statement. How does one make the other true.
We do have Pennington who has been good but far from the best in the league. Henne is totally unproven and Beck is not very good.

SpurzN703
12-01-2008, 10:30 AM
The Browns are screwed..

They were screwed with Anderson and Quinn

dlockz
12-01-2008, 10:56 AM
They were screwed with Anderson and Quinn


At least Quinn showed potential and Anderson was good last year. They just cant run the ball and have no defense though. Although even with Anderson out they almost beat the Colts.

JsBaugh
12-01-2008, 04:26 PM
Browns sucked with both Anderson and Quinn. Part of the problem is the WR's suck and drop a lot of balls.
Quinn didnt show much other than a bunch of picks.

Vaark
12-01-2008, 04:48 PM
At least Quinn showed potential and Anderson was good last year. They just cant run the ball and have no defense though. Although even with Anderson out they almost beat the Colts.

Quinn's stats his last game across-the-board were worse than Beck's so I don't know how you can say he's shown more potential than Beck - that's of course unless you're still pining for him as the #9 wasted pick :boohoo:

Vaark
12-01-2008, 05:00 PM
Great opportunity for Dorsey to pull a Lazarus by summoning up the brand of inner strength, will and fortitude that enabled him to so nobly lead the Canes to glory. I wouldn't bet the farm on it considering his physical limitations but I'll sure be rooting for his resurrection. Roll Canes, LOL.

dlockz
12-01-2008, 05:13 PM
Quinn's stats his last game across-the-board were worse than Beck's so I don't know how you can say he's shown more potential than Beck - that's of course unless you're still pining for him as the #9 wasted pick :boohoo:


Wasn't that the game that he had a broken pinky hmm do you think that had anything to do with it. So now we only judge Quinn by the game where he hurt his hand. I still stand by we should have taken Quinn at 9 but neither of us will know we are right or wrong for a little while since he hurt his hand. Quinn has more potential than Beck to anybody except a few select people on this board. Beck is barely holding onto his NFL life as the third string qb, while Quinn was starting and lost that job only because he hurt his hand. We are still figuring out on Quinn and Ginn but nobody doubts that we wasted our second round pick on Beck.

djfresh47
12-01-2008, 05:37 PM
Cleveland wasn't going to win many games regardless of who they've got at Qb. Romeo Crennel needs to start looking for a job ASAP.

Vaark
12-01-2008, 05:58 PM
Wasn't that the game that he had a broken pinky hmm do you think that had anything to do with it. So now we only judge Quinn by the game where he hurt his hand. I still stand by we should have taken Quinn at 9 but neither of us will know we are right or wrong for a little while since he hurt his hand. Quinn has more potential than Beck to anybody except a few select people on this board. Beck is barely holding onto his NFL life as the third string qb, while Quinn was starting and lost that job only because he hurt his hand. We are still figuring out on Quinn and Ginn but nobody doubts that we wasted our second round pick on Beck.


At this point, that's like saying Akili Smith has more potential than Leaf. Quinn never won a game that mattered and all the hi powered ND alum PR machinery couldn't deceive the draft gurus. If Quinn grew up in Idaho instead of Ohio, he well could have gone in the second round. Oh, and Quinn was starting by default because Anderson was failing, a little like Beck last year coming in for Lemon. Early TC reports out of Cleveland was that Quinn was stinking up the place.

And who's to say Quinn wouldn't have ended up the same way since obviously Braylon Edwards isn't the savior that Jeff Smardjia obviously was.

dlockz
12-01-2008, 06:08 PM
At this point, that's like saying Akili Smith has more potential than Leaf. Quinn never won a game that mattered and all the hi powered ND alum PR machinery couldn't deceive the draft gurus. If Quinn grew up in Idaho instead of Ohio, he well could have gone in the second round. Oh, and Quinn was starting by default because Anderson was failing, a little like Beck last year coming in for Lemon. Early TC reports out of Cleveland was that Quinn was stinking up the place.

And who's to say Quinn wouldn't have ended up the same way since obviously Braylon Edwards isn't the savior that Jeff Smardjia obviously was.


Early training camp reports are friggin useless. You should know this as a dolphin fan. Yea Joe Toledo and John Beck are great early training camp players. In preseason both years Quinn has looked very good. He did not play as a rookie because Anderson played well. Lets compare that to beck who played as a rookie due the injury to the starter and poor play of his replacement. Quinn looked good enough that preseason for them to trade away thier previous season starter. Quinn' first two games before the hand injury he had no interceptions and he did something that John Beck never did and that was Qb an NFL win. It only took him two games while Beck in 4 did not win one.


As for the all the college PR crap, I bet Notre Dame wish they had Brady Quinn now. No he did not win any big college games, but Notre Dame has not won any big college games in a while. John beck never won any big college games either.

Vaark
12-01-2008, 06:45 PM
Early training camp reports are friggin useless. You should know this as a dolphin fan. Yea Joe Toledo and John Beck are great early training camp players. In preseason both years Quinn has looked very good. He did not play as a rookie because Anderson played well. Lets compare that to beck who played as a rookie due the injury to the starter and poor play of his replacement. Quinn looked good enough that preseason for them to trade away thier previous season starter. Quinn' first two games before the hand injury he had no interceptions and he did something that John Beck never did and that was Qb an NFL win. It only took him two games while Beck in 4 did not win one.


As for the all the college PR crap, I bet Notre Dame wish they had Brady Quinn now. No he did not win any big college games, but Notre Dame has not won any big college games in a while. John beck never won any big college games either.
Oh please.. if you want to keep slurping Quinn, it's your prerogative, but to compare a team with Joe Thomas on the line, Winslow and Edwards receiving, Jamal Lewis in the backfield and a decent D with the 07 Dolphins is like racing a Kia against a Dodge Charger. Apples to Oranges. And if ND would want anyone back, it would be Smardjia, not Quinn since Jeff's proven the difference between reasonable mediocrity and abject failure.

Quinn is an overhyped QB who wiser, non geo-centric draft decision-makers valued correctly. No mistakes there. The verdict's still out on Ginn at 9, but certainly not when he's instead of Quinn. Now if you're talking Willis, we might have a more serious credible discussion! And for the record, no matter how you may want to devalue it, Beck won a bowl game - that's one more than Quinn ever did. Again, right now, you're comparing Akili Smith, or Tim Couch to Ryan Leaf, so IMO, it's all moot. I would not be surprised to see a new Cleveland HC (Cowher??), new GM and Donavan McNabb under center starting their 09 season.

djfresh47
12-01-2008, 06:58 PM
At this point, that's like saying Akili Smith has more potential than Leaf. Quinn never won a game that mattered and all the hi powered ND alum PR machinery couldn't deceive the draft gurus. If Quinn grew up in Idaho instead of Ohio, he well could have gone in the second round. Oh, and Quinn was starting by default because Anderson was failing, a little like Beck last year coming in for Lemon. Early TC reports out of Cleveland was that Quinn was stinking up the place.

And who's to say Quinn wouldn't have ended up the same way since obviously Braylon Edwards isn't the savior that Jeff Smardjia obviously was.

Quinn's started a handful of games. I think it's way too early to say it was a mistake for the Browns to draft him. Quinn was starting because he's the future at Qb for the Browns. Him coming from ND didn't help or hurt his stock. Teams being afraid to draft a Qb and invest in one did. If we're going to say a guy whose started like 4 games can't play then what does it say about pretty much every young Qb who starts. Eli Manning was pretty bad at the start of his career, Peyton Manning threw a ton of picks as a rookie, Brett Favre was thought so highly of after his rookie year he was traded.

The guy hasn't proven anything yet. John Beck hasn't proven anything either. Except he was a waste of a pick because a new regime came in and thought Henne would be a better Qb for them. Most draft "experts," had Quinn as the 2nd best Qb on the board. No Qb from last years draft class has been overwhelming. Trent Edwards has had the most success and he's still got issues with durability. JaMarcus Russell has the tools but can anybody have success with crazy Al in charge. Kolb has played a half. Everybody wants to make assertions about a guy after one game but before somebody is labeled a savior or a bust give him a few years.

dlockz
12-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Oh please.. if you want to keep slurping Quinn, it's your prerogative, but to compare a team with Joe Thomas on the line, Winslow and Edwards receiving, Jamal Lewis in the backfield and a decent D with the 07 Dolphins is like racing a Kia against a Dodge Charger. Apples to Oranges. And if ND would want anyone back, it would be Smardjia, not Quinn since Jeff's proven the difference between reasonable mediocrity and abject failure.

Quinn is an overhyped QB who wiser, non geo-centric draft decision-makers valued correctly. No mistakes there. The verdict's still out on Ginn at 9, but certainly not when he's instead of Quinn. Now if you're talking Willis, we might have a more serious credible discussion! And for the record, no matter how you may want to devalue it, Beck won a bowl game - that's one more than Quinn ever did. Again, right now, you're comparing Akili Smith, or Tim Couch to Ryan Leaf, so IMO, it's all moot. I would not be surprised to see a new Cleveland HC (Cowher??), new GM and Donavan McNabb under center starting their 09 season.


Jeff has proven nothing since he is now playing baseball. Yea Beck won a bolw game over a friggin 7-6 team that had no place in a bowl. I mean who cares if the team he beat in a bowl had been blown out two out thier last three games and was on a 3 game losing streak.

For the record Quinn did win some big games. He beat the number 7 Michigan team in 2004, beat the 11th ranked Tennesse team the same year at tennessee. Won on the road versus ranked teams Pitt and Michigan (michigan was 3rd ranked at the time) in 2005. Almost upset one of the best college football teams ever in USC losing 34-31. Lets not talk about Beck's record versus ranked teams 1-7. The only win came against TCU.

Vaark
12-01-2008, 07:18 PM
Jeff has proven nothing since he is now playing baseball. Yea Beck won a bolw game over a friggin 7-6 team that had no place in a bowl. I mean who cares if the team he beat in a bowl had been blown out two out thier last three games and was on a 3 game losing streak.

For the record Quinn did win some big games. He beat the number 7 Michigan team in 2004, beat the 11th ranked Tennesse team the same year at tennessee. Won on the road versus ranked teams Pitt and Michigan (michigan was 3rd ranked at the time) in 2005. Almost upset one of the best college football teams ever in USC losing 34-31. Lets not talk about Beck's record versus ranked teams 1-7. The only win came against TCU.

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