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vere76
01-09-2009, 10:44 AM
Man Florida has the better team but put Bradford with that speed and talent, wow he would be great. every other word out of fox was Tebow this Tebow that Tebow s god.

Namor
01-09-2009, 10:48 AM
Tebow puts a team on his back and wins.
Bradford=NO!

CHAD4MVP
01-09-2009, 10:59 AM
TEBLOWS will be garbage at the next level. those mickey mouse runs he had yesterday wont fly in the nfl they will make him look like sage rosenfels did vs the colts this year ..lol
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CedarPhin
01-09-2009, 11:05 AM
He's a great college player. He just won't be a QB in the pros.

Treh"0"Five
01-09-2009, 11:10 AM
TEBLOWS will be garbage at the next level. those mickey mouse runs he had yesterday wont fly in the nfl they will make him look like sage rosenfels did vs the colts this year ..lol
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Vaark
01-09-2009, 11:17 AM
Man Florida has the better team but put Bradford with that speed and talent, wow he would be great. every other word out of fox was Tebow this Tebow that Tebow s god.

Bradford was exposed by an NFL styled defense. This game cost both him and McCoy a bunch of $Benjamins. The Sooner faithful will surely owe the FL DBs a debt of gratitude if Bradford decides to return next year.

Oh, and do you really think Tebow wouldn't have scored on at least one of those short and goal line stands? I'm a Canes fan but you gotta give credit where it's due. Whether it's gonna be in football, business or philanthropy/charity/social works, the inner fortitude of this kid almost guarantees he will go far.

Namor
01-09-2009, 11:22 AM
TEBLOWS will be garbage at the next level. those mickey mouse runs he had yesterday wont fly in the nfl they will make him look like sage rosenfels did vs the colts this year ..lol
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Who cares?
This is the college forum.
Tebow will go down as one of the greatest COLLEGE
players of all time.
I'm a Bama fan and used to hate him.
He has won me over,by being a bada** and a great
sprititial guy.

ThunderDan13
01-09-2009, 11:35 AM
Every single freaking game this season teams stand in front of each other and pretend like they're going to fight. After every play, they look like they're cussing and about to go to blows.

Since most (not all) of us FinFans are Gator/Nole/UM fans, (and most college fans everywhere) we are no stranger to kids getting into MANY off the field issues. Discipline, bad-mouthing, disrespect.

Tebow is not only arguably the greatest college player ever but arguably the best person. I don't care what's true or not, or what his motivations are. He's not jawing the other team for a fight, he's not getting into brawls at school, not caught up in academic troubles, he's not talking crap before/after games--just motivating.

If you HATE Tebow as a person, you're just being cynical. If more of our college athletes were like him, then NCAA sports AND the NFL would be better places and would have better role models.

Lastly, as Namor pointed out. Who cares if he's not cut out for the NFL? Personally I think he's good enough to be a decent starting QB, but even if you don't agree with that, you at least have to say that he'll have some capacity as a 2nd/3rd QB with maybe short-down back or a TE starter or back-up. Either way, he's likely NFL bound for at leas a good half a decade, and that's an impressive feat that we always seem to want to make fun of if a person isn't a Payton Manning.

Namor
01-09-2009, 11:47 AM
We have been blessed to watch this kid play.
No if's ands or buts about it.

Kdawg954
01-09-2009, 11:49 AM
Every single freaking game this season teams stand in front of each other and pretend like they're going to fight. After every play, they look like they're cussing and about to go to blows.

Since most (not all) of us FinFans are Gator/Nole/UM fans, (and most college fans everywhere) we are no stranger to kids getting into MANY off the field issues. Discipline, bad-mouthing, disrespect.

Tebow is not only arguably the greatest college player ever but arguably the best person. I don't care what's true or not, or what his motivations are. He's not jawing the other team for a fight, he's not getting into brawls at school, not caught up in academic troubles, he's not talking crap before/after games--just motivating.

If you HATE Tebow as a person, you're just being cynical. If more of our college athletes were like him, then NCAA sports AND the NFL would be better places and would have better role models.

Lastly, as Namor pointed out. Who cares if he's not cut out for the NFL? Personally I think he's good enough to be a decent starting QB, but even if you don't agree with that, you at least have to say that he'll have some capacity as a 2nd/3rd QB with maybe short-down back or a TE starter or back-up. Either way, he's likely NFL bound for at leas a good half a decade, and that's an impressive feat that we always seem to want to make fun of if a person isn't a Payton Manning.

Like I said in another thread . . . I HATE Tebow and I HATE the Gators. I am a Canes fan and I will always feel like this.

But even I'm not that homer blind to notice what a fantastic college QB Tebow is and the type of person he is. I wish he was a Cane . . . he would be my favorite player and I would love him as our QB. Really great QB and person, a model for high school athletes to strive to be. Which is why, even tho it would suck for Miami and every other team . . . u hope he stays another year at Florida to keep building his legacy . . . because in the NFL, he may not be as successful but a 4th year at UF could honestly make him arguably the greatest college football player of all time. A legend.

I mean he still needs alot of work to be a starter in the NFL . . . like others have said . . . he telegraphs his passes alot . . . and that just wont work in the NFL . . . but what people are forgetting, his intangibles and his leadership can get him through the tough times as a QB in the NFL while he is learning to fine tune his technique and be a better NFL QB.

Honestly, if u are the Detroit Lions . . . u get your OLine straight . . . and honestly i would take a chance on Tebow in the second round to lead the turnaround of that franchise. They will not find a better leader and the guy has alot of potential. He is tough and mobile in the pocket . . . has NFL arm strength . . . it would be a smart move on their part. Worse comes to worse, u have a back up QB or u have one tough SOB at full back who can be used in wildcat packages.

He is a god at UF, why would he leave that a year early. Money doesn't always bring happiness . . . Tim enjoy the ride, this is the greatest time of your life.

ThunderDan13
01-09-2009, 11:53 AM
Like I said in another thread . . . I HATE Tebow and I HATE the Gators. I am a Canes fan and I will always feel like this.

But even I'm not that homer blind to notice what a fantastic college QB Tebow is and the type of person he is. I wish he was a Cane . . . he would be my favorite player and I would love him as our QB. Really great QB and person, a model for high school athletes to strive to be. Which is why, even tho it would suck for Miami and every other team . . . u hope he stays another year at Florida to keep building his legacy . . . because in the NFL, he may not be as successful but a 4th year at UF could honestly make him arguably the greatest college football player of all time. A legend.

I mean he still needs alot of work to be a starter in the NFL . . . like others have said . . . he telegraphs his passes alot . . . and that just work in the NFL . . . but what people are forgetting, his intangibles and his leadership can get him through the tough times as a QB in the NFL while he is learning to fine tune his technique and be a better NFL QB.

Honestly, if u are the Detroit Lions . . . u get your OLine straight . . . and honestly i would take a chance on Tebow in the second round to lead the turnaround of that franchise. They will not find a better leader and the guy has alot of potential. He is tough and mobile in the pocket . . . has NFL arm strength . . . it would be a smart move on their part. Worse comes to worse, u have a back up QB or u have one tough SOB at full back who can be used in wildcat packages.

Its cool, as a fan I can totally agree with hating Tebow.

I just don't get people that hate him "as a person" as I said in my post. He is special and I think everyone that hates him (again as a person, not as an opposing team's QB) is a hypocrite because EVERY team would be better if they had him. Every college football fan would love to have him in their team.

Kdawg954
01-09-2009, 11:57 AM
Its cool, as a fan I can totally agree with hating Tebow.

I just don't get people that hate him "as a person" as I said in my post. He is special and I think everyone that hates him (again as a person, not as an opposing team's QB) is a hypocrite because EVERY team would be better if they had him. Every college football fan would love to have him in their team.

Yea I mean I don't believe anybody would hate the guy as a person . . . I mean how dumb can u be to hate a guy like Tebow . . . hate him because he is the QB of a rival team . . . not because of the type of person he is.

That speech after the Ole Miss game will go down as one of the greatest speeches of all time in sports history. Such a nice guy, but man he is tough as nails as a player and a competitor.

GoonBoss
01-09-2009, 12:14 PM
I think drafting him any earlier than the 5th round is foolish. He's a less athletic Matt Jones. This certainly doesn't detract from him being one of the best college football players in a while. And he's certainly a solid person by all apearences.

Dolfan3773
01-09-2009, 05:36 PM
We have been blessed to watch this kid play.
No if's ands or buts about it.

I have to agree with you. I'm a Canes fan and hate the Gators but I love watching this kid play. I really wasnt a fan of him but this season ive become intrested in watching him. I love his emotions and passion to win.

I was also on the Bradford bandwagon but after last night sitting and watching him play an entire game, i dont like his releases. IMO he throws like a *****..LOL but you never know how any of these players will turn out in the NFL.

djfresh47
01-09-2009, 07:15 PM
Tebow didn't play as great as the announcers made it sound like last night. Well after they stopped slurping him. Tebow put the team on his back by shutting down Oklahomas offense?

As for his pro prospects, does it matter? Were guys like Danny Wuerfuell, Eric Crouch, Charlie Ward, and Ron Dayne not great college players because they didn't do squat in the pros?

DOLPHINOMATIC
01-09-2009, 07:28 PM
IN A NUTSHELL TEBOW IS THE REAL DEAL'' With his HEART HE CAN SLAY ANY DRAGONS!!!!!!!I LOVE NOTRE DAME I BECAME A FAN BECAUSE OF ALL THE HYPE,AND HE DELIVERS,HE WILL BE THE NEXT ELWAY,MONTANA,MARINO,MANNING,WHOEVER U WISH TO COMPARE HIM TO,Just because he's elusive like VICK doesn't mean he can't throw,bradford was all hype and he got his cage rattled and that mde the difference,TEBOW came outta the 1/2 and willed his team to victory,HIS FAITH IN GOD SHOULD BE A MEASURING STICK TO ALL THE DOUBTERS,TODAY WE HAVE DOG KILLERS,GUN SLINGERS,DRUG HEADS&MENTAL CASES,SO WHY WOULDN'T HE GO TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!REMEMBER BOTH COACHES IN THE SUPER BOWL COLTS VS. BEARS WERE/ARE CHRISTAINS,THAT CLEARLY IS THE BEST THING TO SEE ON T.V. EVERY1 HAS 4 GOTTEN ''GOD'' BETTER GET READY HE'S BEEN WARNING US ALL THE TIME IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PEACE ,LOVE & HAPPINESS

TedSlimmJr
01-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Heath Shuler was as grounded and spiritual of a young man as there's ever been in college football...his priorities, values, and morales were all in order...and came from a great familiy that we got to know well in Bryson City, North Carolina.....and was as talented of a QB as there's ever been in the SEC at both running and passing...he was Tebow before Tebow...

He's a politician now....

The NFL defenses don't discriminate against fine young gentlemen like Tebow and Shuler....or thugs like Michael Vick...

GoonBoss
01-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Tebow didn't play as great as the announcers made it sound like last night. Well after they stopped slurping him. Tebow put the team on his back by shutting down Oklahomas offense?

As for his pro prospects, does it matter? Were guys like Danny Wuerfuell, Eric Crouch, Charlie Ward, and Ron Dayne not great college players because they didn't do squat in the pros?

Don't forget Matt Jones, who is a more athletic Tim Tebow

Greatness920
01-09-2009, 11:59 PM
tebow is the man he takes on tacklers instead of sliding thats beast first down every time oh yea!! wooou curse him out he says god bless you haha

djfresh47
01-10-2009, 12:35 PM
Don't forget Matt Jones, who is a more athletic Tim Tebow

Matt Jones started to come along this year. IMO he'll never be a guy who would've deserved a 1st rd pick. Tebow is a better Qb than Jones. I doubt Tebow will be drafted to be a Qb. He'll be some sorta H-Back IMO. In terms of a guy who will have to move positions I think Pat White is a better prospect than Tebow.

aquaman54
01-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Bradford was exposed by an NFL styled defense. This game cost both him and McCoy a bunch of $Benjamins. The Sooner faithful will surely owe the FL DBs a debt of gratitude if Bradford decides to return next year.

Oh, and do you really think Tebow wouldn't have scored on at least one of those short and goal line stands? I'm a Canes fan but you gotta give credit where it's due. Whether it's gonna be in football, business or philanthropy/charity/social works, the inner fortitude of this kid almost guarantees he will go far.
Agreed...But even though Florida won,Tebow showed once again why he won't succeed at our beloved NFL's level(at least QB).The NFL doesn't play,when it comes to those stupid little runs he does.Alot of fans want him to comeback another year,and maybe have Florida change their scheme to prepare him.C'mon...NO WAY is any university gonna change the way they play for the benefit of one person(solely to prepare him for the NFL).He threw for only a little over 200(2 TD's/2 Picks)against an Oklahoma team that supposedly had little defense.The kid is a CLASS act all the way,and a GREAT college QB,but I just don't think his style is suited for Sunday afternoons.Especially any team taking him high in the draft.I don't think it'll happen.I say third round at the earliest,and that's being kind...."IF" he comes out.I'd LOVE nothing more than to see him prove me wrong.

aquaman54
01-10-2009, 01:32 PM
IN A NUTSHELL TEBOW IS THE REAL DEAL'' With his HEART HE CAN SLAY ANY DRAGONS!!!!!!!I LOVE NOTRE DAME I BECAME A FAN BECAUSE OF ALL THE HYPE,AND HE DELIVERS,HE WILL BE THE NEXT ELWAY,MONTANA,MARINO,MANNING,WHOEVER U WISH TO COMPARE HIM TO,Just because he's elusive like VICK doesn't mean he can't throw,bradford was all hype and he got his cage rattled and that mde the difference,TEBOW came outta the 1/2 and willed his team to victory,HIS FAITH IN GOD SHOULD BE A MEASURING STICK TO ALL THE DOUBTERS,TODAY WE HAVE DOG KILLERS,GUN SLINGERS,DRUG HEADS&MENTAL CASES,SO WHY WOULDN'T HE GO TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!REMEMBER BOTH COACHES IN THE SUPER BOWL COLTS VS. BEARS WERE/ARE CHRISTAINS,THAT CLEARLY IS THE BEST THING TO SEE ON T.V. EVERY1 HAS 4 GOTTEN ''GOD'' BETTER GET READY HE'S BEEN WARNING US ALL THE TIME IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PEACE ,LOVE & HAPPINESSI agree with you,that "THE BIG GUY" is coming.But I can assure you he could care less about which team wins a football game,or any other sport for that matter.

djfresh47
01-10-2009, 04:30 PM
IN A NUTSHELL TEBOW IS THE REAL DEAL'' With his HEART HE CAN SLAY ANY DRAGONS!!!!!!!I LOVE NOTRE DAME I BECAME A FAN BECAUSE OF ALL THE HYPE,AND HE DELIVERS,HE WILL BE THE NEXT ELWAY,MONTANA,MARINO,MANNING,WHOEVER U WISH TO COMPARE HIM TO,Just because he's elusive like VICK doesn't mean he can't throw,bradford was all hype and he got his cage rattled and that mde the difference,TEBOW came outta the 1/2 and willed his team to victory,HIS FAITH IN GOD SHOULD BE A MEASURING STICK TO ALL THE DOUBTERS,TODAY WE HAVE DOG KILLERS,GUN SLINGERS,DRUG HEADS&MENTAL CASES,SO WHY WOULDN'T HE GO TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!REMEMBER BOTH COACHES IN THE SUPER BOWL COLTS VS. BEARS WERE/ARE CHRISTAINS,THAT CLEARLY IS THE BEST THING TO SEE ON T.V. EVERY1 HAS 4 GOTTEN ''GOD'' BETTER GET READY HE'S BEEN WARNING US ALL THE TIME IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PEACE ,LOVE & HAPPINESS


I don't think he's as elusive as Vick. His faith has nothing to do with football ability. The Colts/Bears Super Bowl wasn't that entertaining. People watched because it was the Super Bowl. I doubt anybody cared about their faith. Actually the color of their skin was more of a topic.

CedarPhin
01-10-2009, 05:15 PM
Ken Dorsey is another example of a great college player who didn't translate well into the pros.

He'll make a good coach someday though.

djfresh47
01-10-2009, 10:07 PM
Ken Dorsey is another example of a great college player who didn't translate well into the pros.

He'll make a good coach someday though.

I think scouts don't look at guys like Dorsey or other great college guys as great prospects. It's just fans who think it's shocking to see a guy soo successful at one level be soo unequipped to play at the next. I'm not saying Tebow's that but even look at Jason White. As good as he was he had no chance at ever doing anything in the pros.

It's not just football either. Look at Wojo from Duke.

ThunderDan13
01-11-2009, 01:55 PM
Ken Dorsey is another example of a great college player who didn't translate well into the pros.

He'll make a good coach someday though.

I think the difference between Dorsey, pp, Smith (I hear Tebow compared to these guys all the time in terms of NFL career prospects) is really the quality of the team they played in.

These guys played arguably the bests teams in the history of college football. Their support cast around them was outstanding.

The same might be able to be said about the Gators (though I do not think they are at the level of those teams) but what is different is Tim Tebow's ability to completely and utterly dominate those games. Sure, Harvin is great. I think without him, Tebow still rushes for a 100 yards, has 3+ TDs per game and throws for 200+ yards every single game. When the game is on the line, he's the one that'll make pin-point throws and rush at the right time.

None of those QBs that fizzled in the NFL were as important as Tebow to the success of his team. W/out Dorsey, Smith--I really think all those teams would have accomplished everything they did with another 1-2 NLF draft round type QB.

I don't think any of them, McCoy, Bradford, Stafford, or Harrell (or anyone playing in college today) could have made the Gators a championship team.

I'm not saying this alone, his uniqueness, proves that he will succeed at any position in the NFL. All I'm Tebow is so much unlike anything we've ever seen. He's not a quick athletic running QB like Vick...he's a bulldozer with an arm.

kpcane
01-11-2009, 06:17 PM
Bradford was exposed by an NFL styled defense. This game cost both him and McCoy a bunch of $Benjamins. The Sooner faithful will surely owe the FL DBs a debt of gratitude if Bradford decides to return next year.

Oh, and do you really think Tebow wouldn't have scored on at least one of those short and goal line stands? I'm a Canes fan but you gotta give credit where it's due. Whether it's gonna be in football, business or philanthropy/charity/social works, the inner fortitude of this kid almost guarantees he will go far.

Seriously? That one pick by Black was an amazing throw - absolutely incredible. Only the receiver could've caught that 30+ yards downfield off his back foot with three guys around the receiver! Hardly exposed there. And the other pick to end the second half hit his receiver in his shoulder and bounced right off him. He can't catch the ball for him.

Unlike Tebow's two picks which were astonishingly thrown right at the Sooner defenders.

Bumpus
01-13-2009, 12:58 PM
Its cool, as a fan I can totally agree with hating Tebow.

I just don't get people that hate him "as a person" as I said in my post. He is special and I think everyone that hates him (again as a person, not as an opposing team's QB) is a hypocrite because EVERY team would be better if they had him. Every college football fan would love to have him in their team.

Actually, I was quite happy with Pat White. :wink:

CedarPhin
01-13-2009, 03:51 PM
I think Tommie Frazier was better than Tebow. But that's just me.

DKphin
01-13-2009, 05:53 PM
All Hail Tebow!
:knee:

X-Pacolypse
01-13-2009, 07:12 PM
What's the big deal with Tebow?

The big deal is that he is one of college football's best players, and will probably go down as one of college football's greatest players of all time. Once he hits Sundays, you'll be admiring him for his clipboard holding skills. So, enjoy him while you can.