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SpaceMountain16
01-10-2009, 08:56 PM
Wish that if the NFL was going to rig games like they did for the Ravens today, they would just tell everybody 3 hours before gametime. So then we wouldn't have to waste three hours watching an obvious fix?

SRM
01-10-2009, 08:57 PM
I'm not so sure all those turnovers by Tennessee were fixed

MiZFiT
01-10-2009, 08:57 PM
how do you figure this. im not trying to negate your opinion. im just interested in your thoughts. how was it fixed?

SpaceMountain16
01-10-2009, 09:01 PM
Well the officiating was ABYSMAL today on both sides of the ball. But there were some horrific non-calls against the Ravens defense. They also didn't even catch the fact that Joe Flacco MIGHT have stepped out of bounds on that pass in the endzone, it appears he didn't, but the officials weren't even looking apparently. Then of course the EMBARRASSING play clock expiration debacle on the final drive.

I know the Titans made many many self inflicted mistakes. But they beat the Ravens up and down the field today. This game really shouldn't have been close. That final drive play clock call was a disgrace.

MiZFiT
01-10-2009, 09:04 PM
Well the officiating was ABYSMAL today on both sides of the ball. But there were some horrific non-calls against the Ravens defense. They also didn't even catch the fact that Joe Flacco MIGHT have stepped out of bounds on that pass in the endzone, it appears he didn't, but the officials weren't even looking apparently. Then of course the EMBARRASSING play clock expiration debacle on the final drive.

I know the Titans made many many self inflicted mistakes. But they beat the Ravens up and down the field today. This game really shouldn't have been close. That final drive play clock call was a disgrace.

oh i do agree. bad officiating in this game. but the 3 turnovers decided the game.

DolfanAdam
01-10-2009, 09:04 PM
I agree with this 100% at times it appeared as if the refs weren't even looking to see if there was a penalty let alone actually doing something about it. Tennessee did kill themselves though ultimately.

On a related note I HATE YOU CAM CAMERON!!!! That SOB gives us the worst season in Dolphins history, goes to the only team he was able to beat last year and then comes and embarrasses us on our home field twice in one season and knocks us out of the playoffs, and is now likely headed to the Super Bowl following a 1-15 year...what a piece of ****, he can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.

DeeperImage
01-10-2009, 09:11 PM
Bad officiating is nothing new. The Ravens D is killer, they made a mockery of us, as well as the Titans which is why the won both games. The clock expiring is a horrible non-call by the refs, it even happened once or twice when they played Miami.

I too hate the fact that Cam Cam is on a winning team after what he did to us when coaching. The guy is a weak POS. However, I'm not going to hate on the Ravens, they are a great team with a great HC.

SpaceMountain16
01-10-2009, 09:13 PM
I don't know what it is, but i can't STAND the Ravens. I'm angrier now than i was last week. I never could stand them, even before CaMORON. I saw Ray Lewis's sideline post-game interview and changed the channel in anger.

I guess the Titans didn't "deserve" to win the game because they squandered so many opportunities. But i really don't think the Ravens defense was all that impressive today. And the officiating was as bad as i've seen it in the playoffs so far.

MiZFiT
01-10-2009, 09:15 PM
tenn could have easily won this game. even with the bad officiating.

JsBaugh
01-10-2009, 09:37 PM
I hate to say this but one thing this shows is that Cam Cameron was not the main problem on last years team. I would say all of the injuries and poor defense were the contributing factors. He did make some rookie mistakes as a coach but I have a hard time blaming him for all the problems.

LennyV
01-10-2009, 09:54 PM
As Head Coach Cam Cameron was held 100% accountable for the results of last years team and rightfully so. His performance as an Offensive coordinator in no way justifies his legitimacy as a head coach.
I hope Pittsburgh or San Diego makes a mockery of Baltimore’s Offense next week.

Kdawg954
01-10-2009, 09:59 PM
As bad as the officiating was in this game . . . Tennessee killed themselve with the 3 turnovers.

Titans fans want to kill the refs for missing that delay of game . . . but it shouldn't have come down to that. There still is human error involved and u can't rely on the refs for anything.

It's like I tell local Dolfans who are craping on Ginn about that reverse bobble . . . are we really blaming Ginn and that play for losing that game? When we had 5 turnovers, no running game and a pick six.

It should't have to come to that play, we killed ourselves long before.

Kdawg954
01-10-2009, 10:03 PM
I hate to say this but one thing this shows is that Cam Cameron was not the main problem on last years team. I would say all of the injuries and poor defense were the contributing factors. He did make some rookie mistakes as a coach but I have a hard time blaming him for all the problems.

People forget that Cam was put in a spot to lose. How on earth can u sign a head coach to a contract but give the defensive coordinator more money. Cam was here for offense . . . all this bs about he was the head man . . . he was never the head man. Capers made more money and he was the head coach of the Defense . . . and he was HORRIBLE. Didn't have the right personnel to run the scheme he wanted. Cam was not here to touch the defense . . . trust that. He got the blame regardless.

Remember, Cam had a RT playing LT and a horrible OLine. He lost his 3 starting RB's, his QB, they traded his #1 WR . . . he was dealt a raw deal . . . regardless he had to leave . . . he isn't cut out to be a head coach but he is one hell of a Offensive Coordinator.

I have no beef with Cameron, I wish him well . . . but I hope Bmore loses next week.

SRM
01-10-2009, 10:05 PM
As bad as the officiating was in this game . . . Tennessee killed themselve with the 3 turnovers.

Titans fans want to kill the refs for missing that delay of game . . . but it shouldn't have come down to that. There still is human error involved and u can't rely on the refs for anything.

It's like I tell local Dolfans who are craping on Ginn about that reverse bobble . . . are we really blaming Ginn and that play for losing that game? When we had 5 turnovers, no running game and a pick six.

It should't have to come to that play, we killed ourselves long before.

I definetely agree man

Myles Fynch
01-10-2009, 10:06 PM
The officiating was bad during Ravens/Titans, but not as bad as during the alleged National Championship game last Thursday night. The ref actually stopped Tony Stewart from doing the coin toss so that one of the players could call it in the air. Think about that one for a minute. Shocked and confused, the player called it and then Tony flipped it. It was all down hill from there.

The delay of game non call today was pretty blatant, but no worse than Favre's during the first Dolphin/Jet game. The main thing I took from today's playoff game is that until we can compete with the Baltimores & Tennessees on both sides of the line of scrimmage we're going to continue to get bounced from the playoffs early.

Kdawg954
01-10-2009, 10:12 PM
The officiating was bad during Ravens/Titans, but not as bad as during the alleged National Championship game last Thursday night. The ref actually stopped Tony Stewart from doing the coin toss so that one of the players could call it in the air. Think about that one for a minute. Shocked and confused, the player called it and then Tony flipped it. It was all down hill from there.

The delay of game non call today was pretty blatant, but no worse than Favre's during the first Dolphin/Jet game. The main thing I took from today's playoff game is that until we can compete with the Baltimores & Tennessees on both sides of the line of scrimmage we're going to continue to get bounced from the playoffs early.

Yea I mean, we can beat both the Ravens and Titans on any given Sunday . . . but both are better football teams than the Dolphins, and its mainly because of them being able to control the LOS.

BARF
01-11-2009, 12:07 AM
that play clock play on the last drive saids it all the refs got paid off the did not call delay of game when the clock hit zero

RAGIN'RAVEN
01-11-2009, 12:41 AM
Lot's of good points here, but nobody has mentioned that this game was litterally a game of inches. We made some first downs by inches, and they lost some by inches... and Flacco in the end zone was in bounds by inches. The Titans had the option to review any of that, but didn't, so the game ends the way it ends.
No team should expect to win a game that close after turning the ball over three times in, or near the red zone. those guys battled through some very impressive drives, one was from their own one yard line all the way to our 20... only to give the ball back to us while they were in position to score. Luck? Skill? I can't say which, but being lucky is almost always better than being good.
I have to say I was scared of losing that game for the entire three hours. It could easily have gone either way, and Ravens fans know that. We won because we played a good game in what was likely the best, tightest game played all year by anyone on any field this season. We gave them nothing. They can't say that.
As for the play clock... I watched that play clock run out, and I was waiting for the flag that was never thrown, ...wtf... but I'll take it because we've had our share of bogus calls this season. One was against the Steelers, and cost us that game, and one was in game 5 against the Titans causing them to get the victory. That's just Karma taking a hand in it. The Titans didn't protest that either, so it stands without even an objection from them.
I said before it started that it would be a very close, low scoring game. On the Titans board yesterday I predicted a score of Ravens 14 - Titans - 10. I said that because I have a great deal of respect for their defense, and didn't think either team would get many opportunities to score. I was right. They don't like me very much over there right now. After the game was over I started a new thread congratulating them on a great season, and a well fought battle that could have gone their way just as it went ours.
Comparing them to the reception I got here last week when I did the same thing... well ... I have to say you folks on this board showed alot more class. nobody here posted death threats to me, and my family, or to suck **** like the Titans crowd did. Don't bother looking because it was so nasty that the Mods there pulled the thread.
We'll know tomorrow whether we face the Chargers, or the Steelers next week. As things look right now I'll take either team. I really don't think we'll lose to either one.

I truly believe the Ravens, and Giants are headed for a rematch of XXXV

SpaceMountain16
01-11-2009, 04:12 AM
I think hours after the game i've cooled off a little. My blind rage had the Ravens pegged as cheaters who somehow paid the officials to help award them the game. But looking back on it now, saying the defense didn't play well when they forced three TITANIC (get it?) turnovers is pretty silly. They "bent" but they didn't "break". That's really what it came down to. Certainly the Ravens defense could have played better, allowed 100 yards of total offense, completely shut down the Titans (which was more of what i was expecting) but in the end they held them to just 10 points, and that was enough to get the win.

So Kudos on the win Raven fans.......






AND GO SDG/PIT ;)

3Ply Stagliano
01-11-2009, 02:40 PM
I have to say you folks on this board showed alot more class. nobody here posted death threats to me, and my family, or to suck **** like the Titans crowd did. Don't bother looking because it was so nasty that the Mods there pulled the thread.
Was it Keith Bulluck or was he still too busy taking the loss out on some barriers?

The Titans should have won the game and there are a lot of 'If the flag had been thrown', 'If Chris Johnson hadn't got hurt', 'If Crumpler could hold onto the ball', 'If that FG attempt had been a little further right'. They had plenty of opportunities and didn't capitalise on them. Baltimore, on the other hand, had less opportunities and did enough with them. I'm sure the Titans are absolutely fuming but they're the people who kept turning the ball over at stupid times, they're the people who kept giving up stupid penalties (I know there's a lot of suggestion the refs were biased but, other than merely being bad and missing the delay of game, I didn't see it). It was their responsibility and they screwed up.

Roman529
01-11-2009, 08:47 PM
Wish that if the NFL was going to rig games like they did for the Ravens today, they would just tell everybody 3 hours before gametime. So then we wouldn't have to waste three hours watching an obvious fix?

The NFL spends millions of dollars on putting up the yellow line (first down markers), paying officials salaries, etc., and they cannot invest in a cheap time clock that shows when a team has used up 30 seconds on the play clock.

Why does there have to be a "pause" after the clock hits ZERO to then blow the whistle. There should be lights going off just like on the top of NBA scorebaords for violation of the 24 second clock. The NFL should be ashamed at what they did to the Titans. :rolleyes2:

djfresh47
01-11-2009, 08:47 PM
Well the officiating was ABYSMAL today on both sides of the ball. But there were some horrific non-calls against the Ravens defense. They also didn't even catch the fact that Joe Flacco MIGHT have stepped out of bounds on that pass in the endzone, it appears he didn't, but the officials weren't even looking apparently. Then of course the EMBARRASSING play clock expiration debacle on the final drive.

I know the Titans made many many self inflicted mistakes. But they beat the Ravens up and down the field today. This game really shouldn't have been close. That final drive play clock call was a disgrace.

Him not stepping out helped the Titans by giving them great field position. The play clock was pathetic officiating.