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DubVman
01-15-2009, 10:13 AM
WHy should we draft Percey Harvin???? What we are lacking is a big possesion receiver, one that makes catches over the middle and moves the chains, a T.O. type. If we go receiver we should be looking at Hakeem Nicks not another burner!

reese13
01-15-2009, 10:43 AM
harvin may not be a big physical WR, but he is nothing like ginn.

Kdawg954
01-15-2009, 10:43 AM
Murphy would be more of what we are looking for . . . but I am not a fan of drafting ANY Florida WR's . . . and that includes Harvin and Murphy. Plus both are still pretty raw at WR . . . we need a more polished guy to come in and compete.

Britt, Nicks, Barden and Lafell (if he declares)

If u want a Harvin type . . . I wouldn't mind taking a look at Brandon Tate. He was the #1 guy ahead of Nicks and he is EXPLOSIVE. He got hurt early this year and is being forgotten. But I wouldn't be suprised if he makes a splash and his stock rises. Should be available in round 3 or 4. Some say round 7 . . . I doubt that. But then again Rod Wright was found in the 7th so who knows.

Kdawg954
01-15-2009, 10:44 AM
harvin may not be a big physical WR, but he is nothing like ginn.

Yea Ginn wasn't hurt as much.

reese13
01-15-2009, 10:47 AM
Yea Ginn wasn't hurt as much.

ginn also didnt play RB. harvin has had more carries from the RB position then he has catches from the WR position. do u think ginn could have 300+ carries in the SEC and not have some injuries?

DubVman
01-15-2009, 10:53 AM
Do we need someone to carry the ball when we have ronnie, rickie, patrick???

Kdawg954
01-15-2009, 10:55 AM
ginn also didnt play RB. harvin has had more carries from the RB position then he has catches from the WR position. do u think ginn could have 300+ carries in the SEC and not have some injuries?

Exactly why we don't need him at WR . . . he isn't polished enough . . . he was more of a RB than a WR in college. We drafted Ginn RAW from college and he is finally coming along at the end of season 2. Next year we are expecting big things.

Harvin is a luxury pick, he doesn't fit what we are trying to do. We don't need any more projects at WR. Not saying he won't be a #1 one day . . . but I feel it could take longer than we want to wait, considering we have gone thru this with Ginn already.

The fact that he got so many reps at RB, means it took valuable time from him being a WR in college. PLUS he is from FLORIDA . . . the home of wide receivers busts . . . I'll pass.

reese13
01-15-2009, 10:57 AM
i never said we needed him, i was just saying he is not the same kinda player ginn is. i think percy would be similar to reggie bush or chris johnson for the titans. id have a hard time passing on him unless there just was a damn near sure fire DB sitting there for us.

JT-forpresident
01-15-2009, 11:07 AM
harvin is a badass ... i don't really like what comes out of that offence for the nfl, but harvin has very good intangibles and i wouldn't mind if we selected him with a 2nd rounder ... the guy has a very good shape also

LtDan
01-15-2009, 11:09 AM
ginn also didnt play RB. harvin has had more carries from the RB position then he has catches from the WR position. do u think ginn could have 300+ carries in the SEC and not have some injuries?
What's the point of this question exactly?? Harvin only had 194 carries in his career

Kdawg954
01-15-2009, 11:17 AM
I will say this, if the Front office selects him I will NOT judge the pick. I have faith in their evaluations.

reese13
01-15-2009, 02:53 PM
What's the point of this question exactly?? Harvin only had 194 carries in his career

the point of it was because someone said that ginn didnt get hurt as much as harvin. so i pointed out that harvin had played alot of running back and asked the question that if ginn had carried the ball as much as harvin did, would you think he would have still avoided injury. i was was wrong on the amount of carries..200 instead of 300, not a big deal. the point still remains like i said, he has ran the ball more in his career then he has caught the ball.

X-Pacolypse
01-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Harvin may be bigger than Ginn (weight wise) but his role would essentially be the same as Ginn's (downfield threat).

Roman529
01-15-2009, 03:48 PM
I'd go with Britt from Rutgers in the 2nd round if he is there. Harvin is small, and we have small already.

NRA
01-15-2009, 05:02 PM
pretty funny ANYONE comparing ginn and harvin's game.

they are NIGHT AND DAY as far as style and toughness.

we shall just keep drafting lb's and guards and wonder why
we cant score points and blame the line or the water boy
for the deficiancy in the next draft.

and the next, and the next, and the next, and the next, etc...

as we have done for the last 10 years.

LtDan
01-15-2009, 05:03 PM
the point of it was because someone said that ginn didnt get hurt as much as harvin. so i pointed out that harvin had played alot of running back and asked the question that if ginn had carried the ball as much as harvin did, would you think he would have still avoided injury. i was was wrong on the amount of carries..200 instead of 300, not a big deal. the point still remains like i said, he has ran the ball more in his career then he has caught the ball.
194

LtDan
01-15-2009, 05:04 PM
pretty funny ANYONE comparing ginn and harvin's game.

they are NIGHT AND DAY as far as style and toughness.

we shall just keep drafting lb's and guards and wonder why
we cant score points and blame the line or the water boy
for the deficiancy in the next draft.

and the next, and the next, and the next, and the next, etc...

as we have done for the last 10 years.
:shakeno:

NRA
01-15-2009, 05:05 PM
I wouldn't mind taking a look at Brandon Tate. He was the #1 guy ahead of Nicks and he is EXPLOSIVE.



he may have been "ahead" of nicks as far as seniority, but tate isnt a
wart on NICKS ARSE!!!!

come on man. you coudnt have watched many nc games with that eval.

nicks is a top 12 pic, tate is a bottom 2nd, top 3rd wr.

NRA
01-15-2009, 05:11 PM
pretty funny ANYONE comparing ginn and harvin's game.

they are NIGHT AND DAY as far as style and toughness.

we shall just keep drafting lb's and guards and wonder why
we cant score points and blame the line or the water boy
for the deficiancy in the next draft.

and the next, and the next, and the next, and the next, etc...

as we have done for the last 10 years.






:thumbup:

Dors156
01-15-2009, 05:39 PM
I wouldnt mind picking him because he is my favorite college player, but I do see your point in how in some ways he relates to Ginn.

EJay
01-15-2009, 06:44 PM
pretty funny ANYONE comparing ginn and harvin's game.

they are NIGHT AND DAY as far as style and toughness.


Harvin is the result of what would happen to TGJ if he didn't play smartly (like Marvin Harrison). He'd be injured and missing time all of the time. Those bashing TGJ for avoiding big hits would be bashing Percy Harvin for only playing in 9 games (maybe) each and every year.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Trust me, if Harvin doesn't alter his game and start doing what Harrison and TGJ does, he will be chronically injured in the NFL.

TedSlimmJr
01-15-2009, 07:11 PM
Two Ginns????

Hell one Ginn doesn't make a right.....

jim1
01-16-2009, 04:32 PM
harvin is a badass ... i don't really like what comes out of that offence for the nfl, but harvin has very good intangibles and i wouldn't mind if we selected him with a 2nd rounder ... the guy has a very good shape also

I saw Bob Griese on ESPN yesterday- he said that Harvin is a Reggie Bush type talent and should be a top 5 pick. He's the first guy whom I've seen say that- I'm not sure that he'll be top 5, but I think that Harvin is vastly underrated.

He's been timed at around 4.25 and has a first step and quickness that blows Ginn out of the water, it isn't even close. Urban Meyer called him the most explosive playmaker that he's ever coached. On top of that, he's a solid 200 lbs and is surprisingly large in the upper body- serious, serious guns. He benches 405 lbs.

MrEd
01-19-2009, 04:23 AM
i never said we needed him, i was just saying he is not the same kinda player ginn is. i think percy would be similar to reggie bush or chris johnson for the titans. id have a hard time passing on him unless there just was a damn near sure fire DB sitting there for us.

Exactly. MIA goes BPA when they draft pertaining to need. If all the DBs that are worth that #25 spot are taken and NT Raji is gone, I think Ireland goes for Harvin at #25 and uses him more at PR/KR and out of the Wildcat formation, and opposite Ginn as well...