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MDFINFAN
01-15-2009, 03:42 PM
This is the way I see the phins and here are the areas I'd target.. this does not include all positions so it's not layed out like the final draft board..but it would be my need board.. I've listed the concensus top players in each category of the positions I think we need to address. Of course FA's will render some of the positions less important. I've also added small college players who have excel in their positions. With Langford, Carpenter, and
the willingness of this regime to turn over every rock, I've included these guys as you might see their names come up.

I purposely left off the RB, QB, FB, K, P, positions because I thought they were a area of strength.. On O I really feel Center and quard needs upgrading, providing competition to Smiley and Thomas, and of course we don't know the status of Carey. WR is my least area of concern..but if we could get bolin, I'd be happy. On D..my priority is CB, Nose, DE, OLB, ILB, then Safety.

Draft:
1st 25th
2nd 45th (from washington)
2nd 57th
3rd 89th
4th 121th
5th 153th
No 6th traded to Dallas
7th 197th from Cleveland, 217th, 221th from Carolina

9 picks as of now 4 first day, 5 second day

Offense:

Centers:
1. Alex Mack, C, California Sr, 6-5, 316
2. Max Unger, C, Oregon Sr, 6-5, 300
3. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama Sr, 6-3, 294
4. Jonathan Luigs, C, Arkansas Sr, 6-4, 314
5. Dumaka Atkins, C, Florida State Sr, 6-4, 297

Small college:
C Cecil Newton (6-4/316), Tennessee State
The Buzz: A powerfully built center with an explosive first step and excellent
range in space. Newton does a nice job getting into defensive tackles quickly and has the body control to chip and get out to the second level. He has the size and athleticism to work his way into a starting lineup at the next level and is one of the nation’s top 10 center prospects.

Offensive Guards:
1. Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma Sr, 6-5, 330
2. Herman Johnson, OG, LSU Sr, 6-7, 349
3. Louis Vasquez, OG, Texas Tech Sr, 6-6, 335
4. Anthony Parker, OG, Tennessee Sr, 6-3, 305
5. Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati Sr, 6-5, 320

Small College:
G/T Cornelius Lewis (6-4/316), Tennessee State
The Buzz: Lewis, who started his career at Florida State, has a thick, powerful lower half and has good lateral mobility in pass protection. He lacks great length and size, and may be best-suited to play guard. Lewis has good feet and has the power to hold his own in the run and pass game.

Offensive Tackles:
1. Andre Smith, OT, Alabama Jr, 6-5, 339
2. Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss Sr, 6-5, 318
3. Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia Sr, 6-6, 315
4. Jason Smith, OT, Baylor Sr, 6-5, 300
5. Ciron Black, OT, LSU Jr, 6-5, 315

Small college:
T Joel Bell (6-7/312), Furman
The Buzz: Bell is a tall, long-armed tackle who has good power and toughness in the running game. He has the upper-body strength to lock on and really drive defenders out of a play, but he must work on his overall technique. Bell has the athleticism and foot speed to play right tackle in the NFL. He plays with a mean streak and consistently dominates opponents.

Wide Receivers:
1. Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech So, 6-3, 210
2. Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri So, 6-1, 199
3. Percy Harvin, WR, Florida Jr, 5-11,186
4. Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland Jr, 6-2, 205
5. Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers Jr, 6-4, 205
6. Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina Jr, 6-1, 215
7. Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma Sr, 6-1, 201

Small College :
WR Ramses Barden, 6' 6" 228 lbs. Cal Poly 4.63:
He is 6'6" 228 lbs and bound to garner much attention at the NFL Scouting Combine in 2009. He had a couple of 200-yard games in 2007 and over the course of last season averaged 26 yards per catch. He is tough and strong and can break a ton of tackles. He has good hands and the size to excel in the red zone. His 4.63 40 time leaves something to be desired, but his big frame will be a good target at the next level. Right now, he's being projected as a 5th round pick. If he can improve his forty time into the 4.55 range
he may move up into the third round possibly next year.

WR Jeremy Gilchrist (5-9/176), Hampton
The Buzz: Gilchrist, a Virginia Tech transfer, is an undersized receiver prospect who displays a great first step and big-time ability after the catch. He lacks the strength to play on the outside, but his quickness and vertical speed will make him a perfect fit for the slot. Gilchrist also is a talented return man. (Dolphins know about him because they drafted Langford from here).

Defense:

Nose Guards, Defensive Tackles:
Filling this position from mostly DT's in college.

1. BJ Raji, DT, Boston College Sr, 6-1, 325
2. Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss Sr, 6-2, 305
3. Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn Jr, 6-1, 291
4. Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama Jr, 6-4, 375 (probably my number 1 pick because he played in a true 3/4)
5. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma So, 6-3, 295
6. Fili Moala, DT, USC Sr, 6-4, 296
7. Evander Hood, DT, Missouri Sr, 6-3, 295
8. DeMarcus Granger, DT, Oklahoma Jr, 6-3, 300
9. Ron Brace, DT, Boston College Sr, 6-3, 330

Al Woods, DT, LSU Jr, 6-5, 314 (on my board as another 3/4 ran nose guard)

Small college:
Name: Sammie Lee Hill
College: Stillman Number: 91
Height: 6-4 Weight: 331
Position: DT Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2009
40 Time: 5.20 40 Low: 5.08 40 High: 5.34
Projected Round: 6 Stock: High: Mid 3 Low: Late 6
Rated number 15 out of 164 DT's 186 / 2649 TOTAL

DT John Faletoese (6-2/295), UC Davis
The Buzz: He’s an explosive, penetrating tackle who has the burst to shoot gaps inside and get after the quarterback. He has a motor that never stops, and he fights like a dog in the run game. He will scrap and claw for every inch. He reminds some scouts of Bills DT Kyle Williams.

DT Louis Ellis (6-2/312), Shaw (N.C.).
The Buzz: Ellis was a big-time prospect out of high school who signed with Mississippi State but had academic trouble. He’s an explosive athlete who makes a living getting off the snap and penetrating into an opponent’s backfield. Ellis is a gifted athlete who was timed in 4.94 in the 40. He has dominated his level of competition – NCAA Division II – despite seeing consistent double teams. Ellis should see his stock rise with a strong showing in the postseason and could improve significantly on his late-round grade.

DE/DT Chris Baker (6-2/308), Hampton
The Buzz: Baker, a Penn State transfer, has found a home at end in Hampton’s 3-4 defense. Baker displays the power and explosion to make plays in the passing game, as well as be stout at the point of attack.
He offers good versatility, with the ability to play in the 3-4 or the 4-3.

Defensive Ends:

1. Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas Sr, 6-4, 255
2. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech Sr, 6-7, 257
3. Everrette Brown, DE, Florida State Jr, 6-4, 255
4. George Selvie, DE, South Florida Jr, 6-4, 242
5. Greg Hardy, DE, Ole Miss Jr, 6-5, 260

Small College:
DE/OLB Brandon Swain, 6' 4" 255 lbs. West Texas A&M 4.69:
He is one of the most athletic defensive ends coming into the 2009 NFL Draft. He had 14 sacks and five forced fumbles last year. He is a quarterbacks nightmare. He has good speed off the
edge and a desire to get in the backfield and make plays. His 40 yard dash time of 4.69 is quite impressive for a lineman. He should be a steal in the middle rounds.

Corner Backs:

1. Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State Sr, 6-1, 202
2. Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois Jr, 6-0, 200
3. DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt Jr, 5-10,183
4. Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest Sr, 5-9, 191
5. Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech Sr, 6-0, 195
6. Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati Sr, 6-0, 180
7. Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut Sr, 5-11,186

Small college:
CB Darren Banks, 5' 11" 185 lbs. West Liberty 4.43:
A former Marshal player before he transferred in 2004. He has good speed and the hands for the interception. He has all the tools to be a good playmaking corner in the league. He led his conference with ten interceptions last year.

Domonique Johnson, CB, CB, Jackson State Sr, 6-2, 190
He's ranked no. 16 in all of college football at the cB position.
40 Time: 4.38 40 Low: 4.30 40 High: 4.48
Projected Round: 3 Stock:

Inside Linebackers:
1. Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC Sr, 6-3, 250
2. James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State Sr, 6-3, 245
3. Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida Jr, 6-3, 244
4. Darry Beckwith, ILB, LSU Sr, 6-1, 232
5. Dannell Ellerbe, ILB, Georgia Sr, 6-1, 232
6. Brock Christopher, ILB, Missouri Sr, 6-2, 240
7. Antonio Appleby, ILB, Virginia Sr, 6-4, 248

Outside Linebackers:
1. Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest Sr, 6-3, 241
2. Brian Cushing, OLB, USC Sr, 6-4, 245
3. Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia Sr, 6-3, 254
4. Clay Matthews, OLB, USC Sr, 6-3, 240
5. Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State Sr, 6-2, 242
6. Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri Jr, 6-1, 235
7. Cody Brown, OLB, Connecticut Sr, 6-2, 244

Small College:
OLB Jason Williams (6-1/236), Western Illinois
The Buzz: Williams is a thickly built outside linebacker who has the frame to play inside. He displays good pop as a tackler, but his best attribute is his sideline-to-sideline speed. Williams has great range on the outside, with the burst and speed to track down the ball in pursuit. He’s an ideal “Cover 2”-type linebacker.

Safties:
1. Taylor Mays, S, USC Jr, 6-4, 225
2. William Moore, S, Missouri Sr, 6-1, 220
3. Myron Rolle, S, Florida State Jr, 6-2, 218
4. Patrick Chung, S, Oregon Sr, 6-0, 210
5. Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama Sr, 6-0, 189
6. Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan Sr, 5-11,196
7. Emmanuel Cook, S, South Carolina Jr, 5-10,214
8. Kam Chancellor, S, Virginia Tech Jr, 6-4, 225

Small college:
S Dre’Mail Hardin (6-0/195), Stillman (Ala.)
The Buzz: He’s a physical safety prospect who reads and reacts quickly. He’s at his best at the line of scrimmage attacking downhill versus the run. He’s a physical tackler who takes good angles, but lacks great closing speed and range in the secondary. Hardin plays at one speed and lacks the straight-line speed to handle the centerfield-type role at the next level.

G-Force
01-15-2009, 03:45 PM
No 6th traded to Dallas
Didn't we get a 2nd and a 6th from Wash for dancing queen?

MDFINFAN
01-15-2009, 03:56 PM
No 6th traded to Dallas
Didn't we get a 2nd and a 6th from Wash for dancing queen?

Yea, we traded out 6th for Fergurson this year.. We recieved a 2nd this year and a 6th next year 2010 for the queen..

RUDEbyallMEANS
01-15-2009, 04:01 PM
I think round 3 is on the second day. They changed it last year, but don't know if it'll stay that way this year.

MDFINFAN
01-15-2009, 04:04 PM
I think round 3 is on the second day. They changed it last year, but don't know if it'll stay that way this year.

I think you're correct, it kept coming to mind when I wrote this but wasn't sure wholeheartedly

G-Force
01-15-2009, 04:28 PM
Yeah, the same format will be in effect this year. I think it was a huge success myself. Of course we have had 3 first day picks and I'm sure teams with only 1 first day it must suck for their fans.

CedarPhin
01-15-2009, 04:30 PM
Barden is the guy I want at WR. He'll be one of the steals of the draft. Heyward-Bey and Nicks are the other guys I like at WR.

Nice writeup MD.

phinfan33
01-15-2009, 05:06 PM
Hardy and Spikes are returning to school for their senior seasons...so you can exclude them...as is Taylor Mays...

MAdolfan
01-15-2009, 05:22 PM
myron rolle is entering either. He is staying at school to be a road schoilar

phinfan33
01-15-2009, 05:37 PM
myron rolle is entering either. He is staying at school to be a road schoilar
true...he's going to Oxford for a year,then will enter the 2010 draft...Florida State safety Myron Rolle will study at Oxford instead of entering this year's NFL draft. Rolle won a Rhodes scholarship in November and plans to seek a one-year master's degree in medical anthropology, The New York Times reported. Rolle, projected to be an early round pick, said he plans to enter the 2010 NFL draft.

3rdandinches
01-15-2009, 06:17 PM
true...he's going to Oxford for a year,then will enter the 2010 draft...


What a dummy........lol

crazyfin
01-15-2009, 06:22 PM
i like Hakeem Nicks at wideout if he's there we should take him!!!!!

DKphin
01-15-2009, 07:51 PM
Defensive Ends:
4. George Selvie, DE, South Florida Jr, 6-4, 242
5. Greg Hardy, DE, Ole Miss Jr, 6-5, 260
Hardy and Selvie are returning to school. Do not forget about Connor Barwin. I think he would be a steal in the 3rd.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/Connor-Barwin.php


Centers:
1. Alex Mack, C, California Sr, 6-5, 316
2. Max Unger, C, Oregon Sr, 6-5, 300
3. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama Sr, 6-3, 294
4. Jonathan Luigs, C, Arkansas Sr, 6-4, 314
5. Dumaka Atkins, C, Florida State Sr, 6-4, 297
While all of the players above a good prospects, I would take Luigs first. Antone Caldwell is good, but I would not rank Luigs behind him. You can debate who is better between Luigs, Unger and Mack.


1. BJ Raji, DT, Boston College Sr, 6-1, 325
2. Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss Sr, 6-2, 305
3. Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn Jr, 6-1, 291
4. Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama Jr, 6-4, 375 (probably my number 1 pick because he played in a true 3/4)
5. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma So, 6-3, 295
6. Fili Moala, DT, USC Sr, 6-4, 296
7. Evander Hood, DT, Missouri Sr, 6-3, 295
8. DeMarcus Granger, DT, Oklahoma Jr, 6-3, 300
9. Ron Brace, DT, Boston College Sr, 6-3, 330
I would rate Brace higher and I have my doubts about Cody's stamina.


Inside Linebackers:
2. James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State Sr, 6-3, 245
3. Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida Jr, 6-3, 244

Spikes is returning for his Senior season. Laurinaitis, in my opinon, is one of the most overrated players in this draft. Not saying he is not a good player, but is way over valued.


Outside Linebackers:
7. Cody Brown, OLB, Connecticut Sr, 6-2, 244
Brown is an intriguing player from a value stand point. I have to admit I do not know alot about him.


Safties:
3. Myron Rolle, S, Florida State Jr, 6-2, 218

Rolle is going to England and I think he is one of the players that is overrated in this draft. Probably a good decision to take the scholarship.

ZILLA
01-15-2009, 07:54 PM
so many things wrong

cyesae
01-17-2009, 12:45 AM
definatly missing some names but not bad bro i wish i had that much time

Digital
01-17-2009, 05:56 AM
Nice write up. I'd definitely add Eric Wood, C, Louisville; and Kraig Urbik, G, Wisconsin to the list, because both are prototypical Parcells system players, tall, strong, ferocious, disciplined, and good at run blocking. IMHO, both have a pretty decent chance of ending up Dolphins too, here's why:

Eric Wood, C, Louisville.
With the tremendous talent at the C position, it's pretty clear that we can get a good physical C with our 2b or 3 selection. In most years he'd be the top rated center. Personally, I think we'll end up with Luigs from Arkansas because of our offensive assistant having personal knowledge of him.

Kraig Urbik, G, Wisconsin.
He's a big strong lineman who is a RG in the pros, but can play LG or even a little RT if needed. Big, powerful, versatile, and likely going to fall to the 3rd round because there are so many good T's available this year that G's will slide down into the middle rounds and be very good value. Luckily for us, we happen to need a G or two. Smiley is a RG, but he showed last season that he's also fairly good at LG, giving the line more flexibility to draft for value rather than need.

Satele will either get more powerful this offeason or be traded to a team focusing on a passing offense and a pulling run game. He's a talented kid, but he's just not the pure power player this offense demands.

JepheryRoss
01-17-2009, 11:49 AM
I've gone through this excellent post and slimmed it down to things we might be more specifically looking for.... Took highly rated players who wont be available to us out, took Lineman who are too small out... I think we'll only be looking at some bigger receivers (considering we have 3 slot receivers).... I also dont think we'll be looking at any offensive tackles... This cornerback Darren Banks is a new name to me, thank you.... All in All this was a great post, just adding my two cents.... Thanks

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Draft:
1st 25th
2nd 45th
2nd 57th
3rd 89th
4th 121th
5th 153th
7th 197th
7th 217th
7th 221th

Offense:
Centers:
3. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama Sr, 6-3, 294
4. Jonathan Luigs, C, Arkansas Sr, 6-4, 314

Offensive Guards:
2. Herman Johnson, OG, LSU Sr, 6-7, 349
3. Louis Vasquez, OG, Texas Tech Sr, 6-6, 335
4. Anthony Parker, OG, Tennessee Sr, 6-3, 305
5. Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati Sr, 6-5, 320

Wide Receivers:
5. Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers Jr, 6-4, 205
6. Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina Jr, 6-1, 215
7. Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma Sr, 6-1, 201

Small College :
WR Ramses Barden, 6' 6" 228 lbs. Cal Poly 4.63:

Defense:
Nose Guards, Defensive Tackles:
1. BJ Raji, DT, Boston College Sr, 6-1, 325
2. Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss Sr, 6-2, 305
4. Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama Jr, 6-4, 375
9. Ron Brace, DT, Boston College Sr, 6-3, 330
Al Woods, DT, LSU Jr, 6-5, 314

Small college:
DT John Faletoese (6-2/295), UC Davis

Defensive Ends:
5. Greg Hardy, DE, Ole Miss Jr, 6-5, 260

Small College:
DE/OLB Brandon Swain, 6' 4" 255 lbs. West Texas A&M 4.69:

Corner Backs:
5. Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech Sr, 6-0, 195
6. Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati Sr, 6-0, 180
7. Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut Sr, 5-11,186

Small college:
CB Darren Banks, 5' 11" 185 lbs. West Liberty 4.43:
CB Domonique Johnson, Sr, 6-2, 190 Jackson State

Inside Linebackers:
1. Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC Sr, 6-3, 250
2. James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State Sr, 6-3, 245
3. Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida Jr, 6-3, 244

Outside Linebackers:
2. Brian Cushing, OLB, USC Sr, 6-4, 245
3. Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia Sr, 6-3, 254
4. Clay Matthews, OLB, USC Sr, 6-3, 240

Safties:
2. William Moore, S, Missouri Sr, 6-1, 220
3. Myron Rolle, S, Florida State Jr, 6-2, 218
8. Kam Chancellor, S, Virginia Tech Jr, 6-4, 225

jim1
01-17-2009, 12:25 PM
Hardy and Selvie are returning to school. Do not forget about Connor Barwin. I think he would be a steal in the 3rd.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/Connor-Barwin.php


While all of the players above a good prospects, I would take Luigs first. Antone Caldwell is good, but I would not rank Luigs behind him. You can debate who is better between Luigs, Unger and Mack.


I would rate Brace higher and I have my doubts about Cody's stamina.


Spikes is returning for his Senior season. Laurinaitis, in my opinon, is one of the most overrated players in this draft. Not saying he is not a good player, but is way over valued.


Brown is an intriguing player from a value stand point. I have to admit I do not know alot about him.


Rolle is going to England and I think he is one of the players that is overrated in this draft. Probably a good decision to take the scholarship.

Your quote- one of the great movie scenes of all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_saUN4j7Gw&feature=related

jim1
01-17-2009, 12:29 PM
Nice write up. I'd definitely add Eric Wood, C, Louisville; and Kraig Urbik, G, Wisconsin to the list, because both are prototypical Parcells system players, tall, strong, ferocious, disciplined, and good at run blocking. IMHO, both have a pretty decent chance of ending up Dolphins too, here's why:

Eric Wood, C, Louisville.
With the tremendous talent at the C position, it's pretty clear that we can get a good physical C with our 2b or 3 selection. In most years he'd be the top rated center. Personally, I think we'll end up with Luigs from Arkansas because of our offensive assistant having personal knowledge of him.

Kraig Urbik, G, Wisconsin.
He's a big strong lineman who is a RG in the pros, but can play LG or even a little RT if needed. Big, powerful, versatile, and likely going to fall to the 3rd round because there are so many good T's available this year that G's will slide down into the middle rounds and be very good value. Luckily for us, we happen to need a G or two. Smiley is a RG, but he showed last season that he's also fairly good at LG, giving the line more flexibility to draft for value rather than need.

Satele will either get more powerful this offeason or be traded to a team focusing on a passing offense and a pulling run game. He's a talented kid, but he's just not the pure power player this offense demands.

I'm torn between Mack and Unger- I've been a fan of Mack for some time now, and unger recently- a guy on another site has been touting him, great call. Unger has it all- power, great feet, awareness, etc.- and he's extremely versatile, a huge plus. Mack is a mauler- and very smart and disciplined as well. But for us- what a tough call. As a pure Center, we want that phone booth destroyer- Mack. But will he be a liability is pass protection? Unger offers so much in talent and versatility. In my mind it's a very difficult choice .

skipp2myloo13
01-17-2009, 01:21 PM
so many things wrong

if you have so many problems with it y dont you point them out to help instead of just blindly criticizing it.

Beasley
01-17-2009, 01:34 PM
i say we got after this guy.... he had a struggling QB....but still holds records...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=160370

MDFINFAN
01-22-2009, 12:46 PM
i say we got after this guy.... he had a struggling QB....but still holds records...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=160370


He's seems intriguing, but that also says a lot about Barden who has 50 TD's in his college career at a small college..

I am Bane
01-22-2009, 12:52 PM
i totally agree with you on Kraig Urbik... i thought i was the only person around here that was big on him. he would be my choice for draft in later rounds definitely!!!






Nice write up. I'd definitely add Eric Wood, C, Louisville; and Kraig Urbik, G, Wisconsin to the list, because both are prototypical Parcells system players, tall, strong, ferocious, disciplined, and good at run blocking. IMHO, both have a pretty decent chance of ending up Dolphins too, here's why:

Eric Wood, C, Louisville.
With the tremendous talent at the C position, it's pretty clear that we can get a good physical C with our 2b or 3 selection. In most years he'd be the top rated center. Personally, I think we'll end up with Luigs from Arkansas because of our offensive assistant having personal knowledge of him.

Kraig Urbik, G, Wisconsin.
He's a big strong lineman who is a RG in the pros, but can play LG or even a little RT if needed. Big, powerful, versatile, and likely going to fall to the 3rd round because there are so many good T's available this year that G's will slide down into the middle rounds and be very good value. Luckily for us, we happen to need a G or two. Smiley is a RG, but he showed last season that he's also fairly good at LG, giving the line more flexibility to draft for value rather than need.

Satele will either get more powerful this offeason or be traded to a team focusing on a passing offense and a pulling run game. He's a talented kid, but he's just not the pure power player this offense demands.

I am Bane
01-22-2009, 12:55 PM
i not overly fond of either of them... Mack i would pick, and Unger i wouldnt even draft actually.

Mack is very knowledgable, and strong with a good punch. he has solid technique and is very strong upper body. he jsut doesn't have legs and base to love (like most lineman in this draft)... he can get moved around at times, and isn't the greatest head up blocker against bigger NT's.

Unger is almost the same, but not as strong upperbody and gets driven back quite often, since he tends to play high at times, and has horrible base. i dont think he would be good against the run, and think he would be man-handled by any NT, not just bigger NT's... he doesn't have the aggressive punch like Mack.





I'm torn between Mack and Unger- I've been a fan of Mack for some time now, and unger recently- a guy on another site has been touting him, great call. Unger has it all- power, great feet, awareness, etc.- and he's extremely versatile, a huge plus. Mack is a mauler- and very smart and disciplined as well. But for us- what a tough call. As a pure Center, we want that phone booth destroyer- Mack. But will he be a liability is pass protection? Unger offers so much in talent and versatility. In my mind it's a very difficult choice .

JFoxx
01-22-2009, 01:43 PM
Crabtree will go too early, so I would say Nicks is the next best WR option that may not go as early as some think. He has great hands and if he can show some speed, he could be dangerous. I can't imagine we won't get a CB early though, as I'm not sure BP will go after any decent one's in F/A.

MDFINFAN
01-22-2009, 02:40 PM
Crabtree will go too early, so I would say Nicks is the next best WR option that may not go as early as some think. He has great hands and if he can show some speed, he could be dangerous. I can't imagine we won't get a CB early though, as I'm not sure BP will go after any decent one's in F/A.

I have to agree with this assessment but if Oak doesn't put the tag on Mr. A. I see a bidding war which will take us out of it.. but if there's a chance to get him at a good price, which will be high, I don't think we won't go for it. A shut down corner gives the D a lot of options..

skipp2myloo13
01-22-2009, 06:13 PM
We R Not Drafting A Receiver In The First Day!

I am Bane
01-22-2009, 06:18 PM
unless the Draft Gods give us Crabtree




We R Not Drafting A Receiver In The First Day!

skinstill
01-22-2009, 07:27 PM
Great thread, even though a few that are metioned are staying in school, its nice to know that the draft is pretty deep in most of our positions of need.