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SR 7
01-20-2009, 01:42 AM
report of the NOrth and South pratices.

ALL i hear from every site i have been on is what ive said all year long. RAJI is a beast and he does what i said i ahvetn seen neone do in a while, break the pocket even when he is being double teamed. hes a pass rushing NT which is quite scary.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/North-119.php

this one is south

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/South-119.php

3rdandinches
01-20-2009, 02:50 AM
Isn't it a waste to harp on Raji if he's gonna go early, I would love to get him but I don't see BP trading up at all.

Dors156
01-20-2009, 03:03 AM
I'm real high on Raji, he's a dominant nose and would be a great nose tackle for our system. You wonder what makes great defenses like Baltimore and Pittsburgh, and it starts with their outstanding nose tackles. Apparently Raji was dominant in the first senior bowl practice. Heres a link to people who impressed and those who didnt do so.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/01/19/senior.bowl.day1/index.html

jim1
01-20-2009, 07:37 AM
report of the NOrth and South pratices.

ALL i hear from every site i have been on is what ive said all year long. RAJI is a beast and he does what i said i ahvetn seen neone do in a while, break the pocket even when he is being double teamed. hes a pass rushing NT which is quite scary.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/North-119.php

this one is south

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/South-119.php

Raji still strikes me as a 4-3 undertackle type. I'd take his teammate brace later in the draft for good value- more of a true 3-4 NT. Good size at 6-3, 330.

My wish list is still Alex Mack, Percy Harvin, Max Unger, Hakeem Nicks and William Moore. One guy who I like a lot, but we have Smiley and Thomas returning- Duke Robinson. Dude's fierce and a mauler. At the end of the day, despite some weaknesses in balance and pass pro- Alex Mack.

2nd round- we probably go D unless one of the above slips, but I do like Herman Johnson.

LouPhinFan
01-20-2009, 08:27 AM
• Louisville OC Eric Wood played guard and center, was excellent in pulling, and impressed on lookers with his toughness, grit and coachability. He's a smart technician who has real potential to start in the league. However, Wood was overwhelmed at the point of attack several times, and could stand to improve his core strength.


I'm telling you, get this kid on a good weight program to add 10 or 15 lbs of muscle and he will be a 10 or 12 year starter at center for you.

Kdawg954
01-20-2009, 10:11 AM
I'm telling you, get this kid on a good weight program to add 10 or 15 lbs of muscle and he will be a 10 or 12 year starter at center for you.

That is all the kid needs too, this is a value pick for the Fins if we go Center . . . I really like Wood as well.

Mack is a name more than anything else, I have watched film of several of the centers in this draft, and there is no reason that Wood couldn't be the BEST center in this draft when it is all said and done. Yea he needs to get his muscle strenght up and yea he might not be better than Mack the first season or 2 . . . but career wise, he could match up with him, and be even better than him . . . and he can be had in the 3rd round.

Very Smart kid with alot of experience at Center. I feel confident with the Offensive line minds that we have on our staff, we can get this kid where we need him to be.

Kdawg954
01-20-2009, 10:15 AM
Based on the first practice, u gotta Love the idea of picking up one of the 2 Boston College NT's . . . and all these mocks with Brace in the 3rd and 4th rounds, we can start to eliminate that . . . maybe . . . and I mean maybe he falls into the third . . . but it will be the early third, not when we pick. Kid may not be there in the 2nd round when its all said in done. I have pretty much given up on being able to acquire Raji in the first. He won't be there, unless he just has an awful combine or rest of the week. Don't see it happening tho.

Brace will eat blockers and clog the middle better than Raji, but Raji is the better penetrator and pass rusher. It's like pick your poison. Considering we are in the 3-4, Brace IMO is the better fit for what we want to do . . . which is STUFF the run up the gut. Brace can get a little penetration as well . . . just not as good as Raji. I'm starting to think that 2b. is the latest we can get Brace . . . and that could change after this week and game.

Ronnie23Brown
01-20-2009, 01:25 PM
The guys on the North defense that I was impressed with was Victor Harris (Va Tech) and Keenan Lewis (Oregon State). Both corners and both did really well today receivers v. db's drills.

SR 7
01-20-2009, 01:26 PM
yea im hearing harris did very well so far. as did ma boy delmassss. layed out barden eh? : )

more info on anything else plz thanks!

ticophin
01-20-2009, 06:03 PM
South practice about to start....Maycock is talcking about how good for the Wildcat White is...truth is, he looks quick off his feet, and his arm strength is not bad, havent seen the long ball though...hes throwing into the wind, and hitting his target

ticophin
01-20-2009, 06:11 PM
Parcells and Belicheat are sitting together in the bleachers.....and Billy is wearing a KILLER Fins jacket....
Maualuga looked great in his first attempt to rush the QB...got creamed in the second, but looks powerful....Clay Mathews did OK...nothing spectacular as a rusher. Cushing hasnt been able to beat his lineman in 3 atts...
Physically, Maualuga looks massive, compared to the others
Massoquoi just beat R.Johnson on a deep outs, and caught another tough one falling down...Hes got great hands....sorry, just dropped an easy one
Mike Wallace WR from Ole Miss got good separation from his defender, and has caught everything

NRA
01-20-2009, 06:19 PM
MITCH KING!!!!

he is an undersized DT from iowa and so far has just been UNblockable.

they talked a lot about him and everyone they talked to who faced him said
they wanted no more part of mitch king. when the other coaches in his
conference were asked who was the toughest player they faced, to the man all
said mitch king!

he was WASTING every o-lineman in front of him. i see him as a PERFECT
3-4 DE. he would be the ultra replacement for vonnie holiday.

if you get a chance to watch any of day 1, you will see.


NOTE: ron brace was jumping off sides about every 3rd play.

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 06:32 PM
The thing with Maualuga is he is a pure inside backer. Coming off the edge is not what he does, so the drill was different for him. He's not going to be expected to do what he was doing in that drill in the NFL.

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 06:38 PM
Also, in the North practices earlier, Darius Butler had an amazing play in which he stuffed Brooks Foster at the line completely ending the play before it even started. Butler is solid.

ticophin
01-20-2009, 06:50 PM
Fili Moala is strong as an OX beat everybody, including Eric Wood the C...Michael Oher got beat twice by Viekune from Hawaii, who looks like a long haired Truck
Moore from USC has some nice moves, isnt huge, but finds a way to the QB
Oher just got revenge...stopped him cold twice
Peria Jerry is a big, penetrating dude, carries the guard with him...
Ayers just did a FINE moove on his guard, on his way tothe QB, he isnt huge though
Caldwell is amazing at G, nobody beat him
Cushing finds a way to the ball carrier, great motor
White just threw a strike in traffic
Massoquoi with another great catck, big dude!
Foster RB TENN, beat everybody

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 06:51 PM
Seems to be the trend with centers not playing great out of the guard. Caldwell did well after the snap, but struggled with Kyle Moore when moved to right guard.

Big Herman Johnson had trouble at right tackle with Kyle Moore.

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 06:56 PM
Caldwell is powerful against the bullrush. Did good at left guard.

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 07:01 PM
Nice throw from Pat White to Shawn Nelson

skipp2myloo13
01-20-2009, 07:05 PM
Also, in the North practices earlier, Darius Butler had an amazing play in which he stuffed Brooks Foster at the line completely ending the play before it even started. Butler is solid.

Uconn Pride!

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 07:06 PM
Kyle Moore had a sack in team drills. Cushing laid a big hit even in practices. The USC players look good so far.

Herman Johnson is absolutely HUGE!. NFL guard in my opinion.

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 07:11 PM
The South looks like they're having a much more physical practice and I like that.

ticophin
01-20-2009, 07:14 PM
Rashard Johnson, is on every play, allways around the ball carrier or the WR
Robert Ayers is someone to keep an eye on..., very quick and penetrating
Fili Moala is amazing...

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 07:17 PM
I'm really liking Antoine Caldwell as a center pick up in the late 2nd or 3rd round.

ticophin
01-20-2009, 07:55 PM
Unger against Raji, wow, the earth shook....Unger held his own, Ditto Mack against Brace, who is huge, but not that quick, I guess going after the QB is not his job
Nobody has gotten past Unger

JT-forpresident
01-20-2009, 08:58 PM
how did you have access to the reports SR7 ??? i tried clicking on them but there's no link... i have access to them thanks to you but i find it really weird, care to post the link for the report of today and the following practices ?

ChambersWI
01-20-2009, 10:14 PM
I see we've been talking with Louis Delmas. I really want him with our first 2nd rounder.

WelcomeBack
01-20-2009, 10:21 PM
Delmas showed an aggressive nature in the morning practice with a solid hit on Barden. He took on the biggest target and did well.

JT-forpresident
01-20-2009, 11:11 PM
I see we've been talking with Louis Delmas. I really want him with our first 2nd rounder.
really ? was tlking to him ?

ChambersWI
01-20-2009, 11:13 PM
really ? was tlking to him ?

dunno who, but he's the only guy on NFLDC that we were seen talking to.

hooshoops
01-20-2009, 11:37 PM
am i the only one who's underwhelmed with the talent display on the north team in practices???

the south looks like a much better crop of talent to me.

i liked what i saw from macho harris and keenan lewis this morning at cb. the francies kid is intriguing as well.

i've cooled on mack somewhat after seeing caldwell today. he'd be a great get with our late 2nd rounder and a perfect fit for us.

liked what i saw also from massaquia at wr. i'd like him in the 3rd if possible or derrick williams.

i love michael oher and if he was somehow available at #25 which i can't see i'd have a hard time passing him up. the upside is huge. if carey doesn't resign and he's on the board at #25 i'd be on it.

i like rashod johnson more than delmas. he's 195 and with an nfl offseason training program i think he could be a solid 200 lbs and just the ballhawk we need at free safety. be a nice pick with our first 2nd rounder imo. very heady player and an absolute ballhawk.

fili moala showed me some things and i wonder if he put on weight if he could play nose. more upside than brace.

i also liked what i saw from the lsu fb (not sure of his name) as a blocking back and occasional short yardage ball carrier late.

what's up with mauluga??? he may be on the board when we pick if he keeps looking as sluggish as he looks to me thus far.

i also like pat white as a wildcat qb and maybe slot like wr starting in the 4th.

my 1st 3 rounds picks for the draft without having seen the underclassmen or guys not here just off what i'm seeing talent wise at the senior bowl would be:

1st- offensive tackle/lb best available
2nd- rashod johnson s
2nd- caldwell c
3rd-massaquia or derrick williams wr

if carey leaves offensive tackle must be a high priority. oher would be some kind of sweet with that top pick.

Oraclepz
01-20-2009, 11:56 PM
Based on the first practice, u gotta Love the idea of picking up one of the 2 Boston College NT's . . . and all these mocks with Brace in the 3rd and 4th rounds, we can start to eliminate that . . . maybe . . . and I mean maybe he falls into the third . . . but it will be the early third, not when we pick. Kid may not be there in the 2nd round when its all said in done. I have pretty much given up on being able to acquire Raji in the first. He won't be there, unless he just has an awful combine or rest of the week. Don't see it happening tho.

Brace will eat blockers and clog the middle better than Raji, but Raji is the better penetrator and pass rusher. It's like pick your poison. Considering we are in the 3-4, Brace IMO is the better fit for what we want to do . . . which is STUFF the run up the gut. Brace can get a little penetration as well . . . just not as good as Raji. I'm starting to think that 2b. is the latest we can get Brace . . . and that could change after this week and game.


I read somewhere that Brace looked slow and lethargic!

JT-forpresident
01-21-2009, 12:11 AM
dunno who, but he's the only guy on NFLDC that we were seen talking to.

this is really pissing me off... i can't have access to any of those things and i really can't find out why... maybe because i'm in canada ? it would be pretty darn stupid but that's the only explanation i have, i even registered to the forums because i thought maybe you have to be a member to see those things... anyone who could post the links to the reports and that "list" of players watched would be neat..

SR 7
01-21-2009, 01:30 AM
how did you have access to the reports SR7 ??? i tried clicking on them but there's no link... i have access to them thanks to you but i find it really weird, care to post the link for the report of today and the following practices ?

what do you mean how did i have access? I dont get it lol.

yea i will post the reports asap today and tom practice ones :up:

JT-forpresident
01-21-2009, 02:07 AM
what do you mean how did i have access? I dont get it lol.

yea i will post the reports asap today and tom practice ones :up:

i go on scott wright's site, and when i go in the senior bowl "headquarters" , there's no clickable link, nothing at all ! really really weird

anyways, thx a lot :up:

Kdawg954
01-21-2009, 05:34 AM
I read somewhere that Brace looked slow and lethargic!

He hasn't jumped off the snap quick as some may like and I think coaches noticed that and he was getting some false starts during practice . . . but he has been very overpowering. Don't let these practices sell you or steer you away from a guy completely. Rey Maulauga had a horrible practice, I mean real bad . . . he looked slow and awful, and yea it may hurt him but he still has enough game tape for teams to not take his efforts to heart. Brace was great this year and fits a need for us. Really a solid NT prospect and I think we will have to go that direction in round 2 . . . especially with the Front office suspending Soliai TWICE . . . tho I think they like his potential very much.

Oraclepz
01-21-2009, 02:18 PM
He hasn't jumped off the snap quick as some may like and I think coaches noticed that and he was getting some false starts during practice . . . but he has been very overpowering. Don't let these practices sell you or steer you away from a guy completely. Rey Maulauga had a horrible practice, I mean real bad . . . he looked slow and awful, and yea it may hurt him but he still has enough game tape for teams to not take his efforts to heart. Brace was great this year and fits a need for us. Really a solid NT prospect and I think we will have to go that direction in round 2 . . . especially with the Front office suspending Soliai TWICE . . . tho I think they like his potential very much.


Well im not saying dont draft him yet... its still too early to tell... i want to see how the rest of the practices go. But as of right now, i think even second round is too early for him.

jim1
01-21-2009, 02:19 PM
i go on scott wright's site, and when i go in the senior bowl "headquarters" , there's no clickable link, nothing at all ! really really weird

anyways, thx a lot :up:

This happens to me, too, same thing last year. I'm not sure why.

rev kev
01-21-2009, 03:48 PM
Parcells and Belicheat are sitting together in the bleachers.....and Billy is wearing a KILLER Fins jacket....
Maualuga looked great in his first attempt to rush the QB...got creamed in the second, but looks powerful....Clay Mathews did OK...nothing spectacular as a rusher. Cushing hasnt been able to beat his lineman in 3 atts...


Like this...

ticophin
01-21-2009, 04:39 PM
Good find Rev....Nice Circus Tent Bill got from Santa Ross...man, you could fit a jv soccer team in there...

ticophin
01-21-2009, 06:34 PM
South going at it again....LB drills against TEnds, and Mauluaga looks like a man amongst boys....just destroying every TE on his way, all kinds of moves, lots of power, amazing motor....whereas Cushing has shown nothing special
Chip Vaughn, CB Wake Forest, has some serious skills and speed, ditto his teammate Alphonso Smith, great int against Mckinley WR out of SC
By the way....Coach Sparano and the Tuna are in the bleachers...
Centers Lugis and Caldwell look solid, especially Caldwell
I wouldnt be upset with Fili Moala, Super Strong dude, as is Peria Jerry, DTs, they just dont stop
Veikune from Hawaii is a DE that could make some team happy, with a little coaching
Moala just mauled Lugis, twice, Peria Jerry did too
Ayers against Oher, Oher was just too much, amazing stance...
Dont like Wood much...getiing beat regularly (Ayers)
Herman Johnson, G LSU, is huge, but slow....
Michael Oher is a stud, stopped Moore USC twice, every move he brought on him

ticophin
01-21-2009, 07:33 PM
Those of you wanting Pat White for the Wildcat, get ready to cough up a late 2nd-early 3rd...Best QB in South practices...very mobile, accurate arm, quick off his feet...

PhinsTD
01-21-2009, 08:10 PM
Those of you wanting Pat White for the Wildcat, get ready to cough up a late 2nd-early 3rd...Best QB in South practices...very mobile, accurate arm, quick off his feet...

He is not a QB in the NFL...

It's funny, I've read reports that are much different than the ones I'm reading here. One said Delmas had the best day of anyone out there...eye of the beholder I suppose. Personal bias comes into these writers' reports IMO.

jim1
01-21-2009, 08:18 PM
South going at it again....LB drills against TEnds, and Mauluaga looks like a man amongst boys....just destroying every TE on his way, all kinds of moves, lots of power, amazing motor....whereas Cushing has shown nothing special
Chip Vaughn, CB Wake Forest, has some serious skills and speed, ditto his teammate Alphonso Smith, great int against Mckinley WR out of SC
By the way....Coach Sparano and the Tuna are in the bleachers...
Centers Lugis and Caldwell look solid, especially Caldwell
I wouldnt be upset with Fili Moala, Super Strong dude, as is Peria Jerry, DTs, they just dont stop
Veikune from Hawaii is a DE that could make some team happy, with a little coaching
Moala just mauled Lugis, twice, Peria Jerry did too
Ayers against Oher, Oher was just too much, amazing stance...
Dont like Wood much...getiing beat regularly (Ayers)
Herman Johnson, G LSU, is huge, but slow....
Michael Oher is a stud, stopped Moore USC twice, every move he brought on him

I'm intrigued by Chip Vaughn, but I haven't seen him play. The reports on him have been good, I just wish that I could see these practices- I'll keep an eye out for him in the game. Also there's an OLB/DE guy from Tennessee that I'd like to see play.

ticophin
01-21-2009, 08:31 PM
I'm intrigued by Chip Vaughn, but I haven't seen him play. The reports on him have been good, I just wish that I could see these practices- I'll keep an eye out for him in the game. Also there's an OLB/DE guy from Tennessee that I'd like to see play.

Jim, youre talking about Robert Ayers I believe, who has looked pretty solid on the outside, not so much on the inside. Mayock was mentioning that many teams will be looking at him, since he has been expected to perform for years, and only supposedly blossomed his senior year, some may think of him as a one hit wonder for his sudden impact last year, I dunno, I guess on Saturday well fin out..:up:

Troyd92
01-21-2009, 11:55 PM
Can anyone fill me in on how Kraig Urbik a G from Wisconsin is doing, Ive watched him alot and he can do it all he is big 6'6 330, very strong, and has great footwork for a player of his size..

I am Bane
01-22-2009, 12:30 AM
maybe nobody has gotten past Unger, but he has been gotten under and driven backwards into the QB (or pad) many many times. he's far from one of the strongest C/G out of the group. i not overly high on Unger... kind of like Satele that we already have.




Unger against Raji, wow, the earth shook....Unger held his own, Ditto Mack against Brace, who is huge, but not that quick, I guess going after the QB is not his job
Nobody has gotten past Unger

I am Bane
01-22-2009, 12:32 AM
Raji is destroying all... true, but i dont think he'll be there for us in the draft...

Peria Jerry i want to see more of, and am checking out some stuff on him once i can get film.

otheriwse on the O-Line side, i have not seen much to impress me at all besides Alex Mack. and he definitely wont be around for us in the 1st round. everyone else is almost far and away from his game.... lots of second day picks o-line i guess.

rev kev
01-22-2009, 09:13 AM
Raji is destroying all... true, but i dont think he'll be there for us in the draft...

Peria Jerry i want to see more of, and am checking out some stuff on him once i can get film.

otheriwse on the O-Line side, i have not seen much to impress me at all besides Alex Mack. and he definitely wont be around for us in the 1st round. everyone else is almost far and away from his game.... lots of second day picks o-line i guess.

C is rarely picked first round regardless of grade..., I see C coming off Rds 2-3

ticophin
01-25-2009, 10:05 PM
He is not a QB in the NFL...

IMO.
Yes, after today.....he will be