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SR 7
01-23-2009, 03:49 PM
ok i read the Q and A article and harvey said that miami is very high on Chip Vaughn DB from Wake.

anyone have much info on him past what I read? i nevre saw him play. Thanks.

SR 7
01-23-2009, 03:58 PM
i know his more of a SS then a FS and doesnt have very good ball skills so why are they so interested in him?

RoninFin4
01-23-2009, 04:11 PM
I saw him in the game Wake played Florida State and came away very impressed. He's very well built (reminds me of a bigger Yeremiah Bell, but without the massive arms) and I think he had 1 or 2 INTs in the game. Very sloppy game overall, as I think it was 12-9, all field goals.

He looked pretty fluid covering his ground; I'm not sure that he's any faster than Yeremiah, but he might be a little better at playing the ball. Didn't really notice anything good or bad as far as run support/tackling.

Seems like a solid 3rd or 4th round pick, might sneak a little higher up with a good Senior Bowl and/or Combine.

Geforce
01-23-2009, 04:53 PM
Chip Vaughn, SS, Wake Forest
6'1" 218 4.52 40
Led Wake Forest in tackles as a junior with 105 total tackles and passes defensed with 14.

NFL Draftscout Senior Bowl coverage.
Tuesday

• Wake Forest S Chip Vaughn (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/Chip-Vaughn.php) intercepted a deep ball in which he went up and just took it away from the receiver. Pretty impressive.
Wednesday


• Wake Forest S Chip Vaughn (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/Chip-Vaughn.php) did a nice job of matching up in coverage, even locking down Mike Wallace in 1-on-1's. Maybe he is as fast as he claims...
Thursday

• Wake Forest S Chip Vaughn (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/Chip-Vaughn.php) was impressive again today, displaying nice hands and looking very smooth. He has helped himself this week.

SR 7
01-23-2009, 05:03 PM
They keep mentioning he "claims to be fast and the combine will show it"

I wonder what the verdict is on that area.

ckparrothead
01-23-2009, 05:09 PM
He certainly looks the part, and runs the part. He's not a sudden player. He's not a head hunter. He's a mid-round safety that can start on Sundays.

Dolfan4life34
01-23-2009, 05:09 PM
im verey interested in him and delmas

ckparrothead
01-23-2009, 05:13 PM
Delmas is a guy I definitely like and I know they like him as well.

SR 7
01-23-2009, 05:19 PM
delmas is my number 1 player so far in this draft that we can obtain at 25 but im not sure if we will go for a S in round 1 : /

i love the kid.

SamIam
01-23-2009, 05:27 PM
Others I like:

Patrick Chung
Michael Hamlin
Courtney Greene


Michael Hamlin is as good as any Safety in this draft http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hj0Eil3uRPU

lbmclean_sj
01-23-2009, 05:29 PM
delmas is my number 1 player so far in this draft that we can obtain at 25 but im not sure if we will go for a S in round 1 : /

i love the kid.

if he is the BPA, lets do it

we are 2 or 3 drafts away so what the hell

SR 7
01-23-2009, 05:42 PM
if he is the BPA, lets do it

we are 2 or 3 drafts away so what the hell

exactly and we all know what a good S in the nfl can do. look at Rolle, Troy P, Reed, Griffin, Sharper, Sanders, etc.

MrEd
01-23-2009, 07:55 PM
i know his more of a SS then a FS and doesnt have very good ball skills so why are they so interested in him?

I think they want to find the Safety tandem of the future in Delmas and Vaughn. Delmas the FS and Vaughn the SS.

Yeremiah Bell is 31 yrs old. So they need to find someone to groom behind him. Culver doesn't seem to look like the long term solution there, at least not as the future starter.

Then, they are high on them because of where they can land them in the draft. They are not going to be high on Matt Stafford or Aaron Curry or Michael Crabtree because they are not going to be able to draft any of them.

They are high on players that are going to be around when they pick.

Delmas should be our FS pick at #25, Vaughn could be our SS pick to groom behind Bell at pick #57 or #89.

Then of course, these could be just plan A and plan B.

In other words, say a player that is higher than a top #25 pick drops to them like say BJ Raji....then they of course select Raji there and will probably lose out on Delmas by the #44 pick, so maybe take Vaughn at #44 or #57 at that point....

Could be a bunch of things...

hemidemon
01-23-2009, 08:41 PM
Actually MrEd I read an article where Ireland stated he studies the entire draft b/c you never know who is going to slide. Honestly I think you have to be real careful of the news coming out of Mobile right now. If they are letting news leak about who they like, it's probably b/c they really like someone else. The draft is a poker game. You never show your hand before it's time to lay your cards on the table.

SR 7
01-23-2009, 08:50 PM
Actually MrEd I read an article where Ireland stated he studies the entire draft b/c you never know who is going to slide. Honestly I think you have to be real careful of the news coming out of Mobile right now. If they are letting news leak about who they like, it's probably b/c they really like someone else. The draft is a poker game. You never show your hand before it's time to lay your cards on the table.

true maybe thats hwy they claim vaughn as opposed to delmas.

last year htey said they love players who were captains and we all know delmas if u havent read it yet on the article i posted and from konwing him was the captain for 2 yrs running and takes straight up leadership and demand ala Lewis of Balt. hes tough, physical, lays the wood, and plays strong with great instincts. he has all of the Jake long qualities in him but for the FS spot and rem. FS spot needs that leader and 2nd coach so to say for the D. he has great ball skills as well.

Pompy
01-23-2009, 09:41 PM
Didn't you learn from last year...... Don't believe what comes out of what people say this time of year (Draft Time)

MrEd
01-25-2009, 03:59 AM
Actually MrEd I read an article where Ireland stated he studies the entire draft b/c you never know who is going to slide. Honestly I think you have to be real careful of the news coming out of Mobile right now. If they are letting news leak about who they like, it's probably b/c they really like someone else. The draft is a poker game. You never show your hand before it's time to lay your cards on the table.

IF that was the case, then why did Parcells/Ireland talk up Jake Long last offseason? They picked him. They also mentioned liking Chad Henne...and picked him too. Their were reports about Langford too.

There were also reports about Matt Ryan, and I'm sure they pondered him really hard before settling on Long.

You need to realize that these guys are "real" human beings, like everyone else. People need to stop looking at their "idols" as some cartoon superheros or something.

Reports leak out, not because they are some super-minded conspiracy experts...things leak out because "they are really discussed and walls have ears".

Artists make music and demos are leaked out and black markets and bootlegs take money away from musicians....not a poker move...just humans can't control everything that leaks...

Same thing with sports. Parcells and Ireland and their scouts discuss players and "employees, family members, friends, and friends of friends, etc..." hear something and it slips and the media pick it up and post them.

Media has scouts too, you know.

In fact, when teams don't want to let their "poker" hand known to other teams....they usually do what you see them do..."No comment, not going to just tell everyone who we are looking to pick...etc."

Pat White report came from MIAMI HERALD report about players that Parcells has mentioned liking or watching or have been studying or interviewing.

It doesn't take a genius to see why Parcells likes Pat White. Mayock said it best: He has the "it" factor.

You may not like him or the pick. You may feel he is a waste of pick. That's your biases getting in the way.

A Randel-El type of WR/QB/KR/PR/RB, "WildCat specialist" is very valuable....especially to a team that runs it and needs WRs. :wink:

Digital
01-25-2009, 05:35 AM
Last year, one at a time, the Dolphins talked up anyone that might be worthy of a team trading up to get. When they got no bites on the line, they had to make a pick, and IMHO, they made the right pick in Jake Long. I expected him to be the pick the day Parcells joined the Dolphins ... it just makes too much sense.

Ireland has a good poker face. He talks up a bunch of players, some he really truly likes, and others as a smokescreen. Take your pick which Flacco was, but I thought they were serious about liking him. Some picks Ireland loves and keeps a very low profile on hoping he can snag them lower than their talent level. Draft disinformation is a game, and I'm comfortable that Ireland/Parcells/Sparano are doing a good job of mixing the truth with the propaganda. ;)