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MrEd
01-26-2009, 06:53 PM
Ok, yall. We have QB Matthew Stafford being gone via being selected #1 overall by DET, LT Eugene Monroe going #2 to STL, and OLB Aaron Curry going #3 to KC.

Now we come to the SEATTLE SEAHAWKS. These guys are actually a lot more along than many of these high pick teams. They have some good players like Walter Jones, Deon Branch, Julius Jones, Marcus Trufant, Matt Hasselbeck, Patrick Kerney, Julian Peterson...etc.

But they did just have their starting SLB Mr. LeRoy Hill arrested on some misdemeanors the other day...not good.

Reports are that they are going to franchise tag the guy, so it could be that they are looking for an eventual replacement. But with the depth at LB in this draft, I'm sure they can get an excellent OLB in the early part of the 2nd round at pick #38. So, I bet they are going to go with Matt Hasselbeck's eventual replacement/competition....Mark Sanchez.

Another way they can go is the RT/LG/LT prospect that is supposed to have the highest "ceiling" in Andre Smith and maybe eventually replace Walter Jones while starting him at RT?

Yeah, I'm stuck between them thinking that Hasselbeck and Frye is a good QB tandem and adding an upgrade to the OL or do they take advantage of their draft spot and go with a future franchise QB in Mark Sanchez? Not to mention Frye is a FA.

Of course, they could look to add another potential superstar like a Michael Crabtree. But I hear they are interested in a veteran WR like a TJ Houshmansada...but I have to put a poll up.

So who will SEA take? Mark Sanchez? Andre Smith? Michael Crabtree?

ZachThomas76
01-26-2009, 07:05 PM
They wont take Sanchez. They go either O Line or wr. I think they should go oline and then try to grab a wr in FA. They have Seneca Wallace at qb as well, I dont see them taking a guy who started one year 4th overall. I think Crabtree would be sick in the WC offense as well.

MrEd
01-26-2009, 07:07 PM
Also, for that person who selected Crabtree on the poll and posted no explanation...WR is not a need for SEA. They have Deon Branch, Nate Burleson, and are interested in a "veteran" WR like TJ Housh. They also drafted a few young guys the pass few years.

The main likelihood is that SEA, who is already a potential playoff team should take advantage of their high pick and select a future franchise QB.

My close 2nd would be an OT that can eventually take over for Walter Jones, but Jones is still in his prime. So that can wait. I'm going with Mark Sanchez, even though I voted for Andre Smith by mistake on my own poll. LOL.

MrEd
01-26-2009, 07:09 PM
They wont take Sanchez. They go either O Line or wr. I think they should go oline and then try to grab a wr in FA. They have Seneca Wallace at qb as well, I dont see them taking a guy who started one year 4th overall. I think Crabtree would be sick in the WC offense as well.

did you vote on the poll for Andre Smith? Because when I first posted once the poll was voted on Crabtree. There was no post explaining the vote.

You are explaining here that you feel they are going OL, so did you vote for Andre Smith?

ZachThomas76
01-26-2009, 07:11 PM
Also, for that person who selected Crabtree on the poll and posted no explanation...WR is not a need for SEA. They have Deon Branch, Nate Burleson, and are interested in a "veteran" WR like TJ Housh. They also drafted a few young guys the pass few years.

The main likelihood is that SEA, who is already a potential playoff team should take advantage of their high pick and select a future franchise QB.

My close 2nd would be an OT that can eventually take over for Walter Jones, but Jones is still in his prime. So that can wait. I'm going with Mark Sanchez, even though I voted for Andre Smith by mistake on my own poll. LOL.

I would have to completely disagree with you that wr is not a need for Seattle. Bobby Engram is 36 and might not be back. Burleson is coming off a torn up knee, as did Branch this year. Deion Branch hasnt been able to stay healthy since he came to Seattle. Also, Ben Obomanu is coming off a broken collarbone. I would say wr is a huge need.

ZachThomas76
01-26-2009, 07:13 PM
did you vote on the poll for Andre Smith? Because when I first posted once the poll was voted on Crabtree. There was no post explaining the vote.

You are explaining here that you feel they are going OL, so did you vote for Andre Smith?

I voted for Smith, but personally Id take Crabtree. I doubt Seattle goes wr that high, they like to take O Line and DLine early. It will all depend on what they can do in FA. They may go wr in round 2. They could use a safety to upgrade Russell as well.

MrEd
01-26-2009, 07:21 PM
I would have to completely disagree with you that wr is not a need for Seattle. Bobby Engram is 36 and might not be back. Burleson is coming off a torn up knee, as did Branch this year. Deion Branch hasnt been able to stay healthy since he came to Seattle. Also, Ben Obomanu is coming off a broken collarbone. I would say wr is a huge need.

As I said before, and you seem to have missed it...

reports are coming out that SEA does "not" want a young rookie WR, but a "veteran" WR and are looking to make a run at a FA WR like TJ Houshmansada.

X-Pacolypse
01-26-2009, 07:21 PM
Seattle needs WR help. Engram is up in age, Branch and Burleson have injury issues, and can you really depend on Koren Robinson? It's a no brainer, it's Michael Crabtree.

ZachThomas76
01-26-2009, 07:24 PM
As I said before, and you seem to have missed it...

reports are coming out that SEA does "not" want a young rookie WR, but a "veteran" WR and are looking to make a run at a FA WR like TJ Houshmansada.

No Ed, I didnt miss it. There are all kinds of "reports" flying around this time of year. As I said, it will depend on what they accomplish in FA that will determine how they draft. If they strike out on TJ, they may consider Crabtree. Why create a poll, ask people to pick a name, then dog the pick? WR is a huge need for Seattle.

MrEd
01-26-2009, 07:25 PM
Since this is attempting on determining who will make it to #25 to see who MIA will pick, this isn't just basing on how many vote for who in the poll. I am making an educated guess here.

So if people just go and post a vote for Crabtree and make no argument for him....it will not matter if he wins in the "popular" polls. This isn't politics and so forth.

I made my point that I thought Mark Sanchez would be SEA's pick. However, I also stated that Andre Smith makes a lot of sense at OT.

So far the arguments that have been put forth have the thread pointing to SEA picking Andre Smith instead of Sanchez.

No one is making a legit argument for Crabtree, just posting on the polls won't make an argument that "SEA" will select Crabtree.

Just letting you guys know...

MrEd
01-26-2009, 07:27 PM
Seattle needs WR help. Engram is up in age, Branch and Burleson have injury issues, and can you really depend on Koren Robinson? It's a no brainer, it's Michael Crabtree.

Yes, but the fact that they were injured doesn't make the argument. They are all going to be back. And then again, reports have to be taken into consideration in who "likely" will "SEA" take. Not who "we" would take.

SEA "has" WRs. So to say they actually 'need' one. Not.

But even if we say they do, reports have come out that they want a veteran WR. Not a rook.

ZachThomas76
01-26-2009, 07:31 PM
Since this is attempting on determining who will make it to #25 to see who MIA will pick, this isn't just basing on how many vote for who in the poll. I am making an educated guess here.

So if people just go and post a vote for Crabtree and make no argument for him....it will not matter if he wins in the "popular" polls. This isn't politics and so forth.

I made my point that I thought Mark Sanchez would be SEA's pick. However, I also stated that Andre Smith makes a lot of sense at OT.

So far the arguments that have been put forth have the thread pointing to SEA picking Andre Smith instead of Sanchez.

No one is making a legit argument for Crabtree, just posting on the polls won't make an argument that "SEA" will select Crabtree.

Just letting you guys know...

Ed, thanks for letting me in on that. Just letting you know, why put Crabtree in your "poll" then? I made a case for Crabtree. Ill repeat it. Bobby Engram is 36. Burleson is coming off a torn up knee. Deion Branch came back from one this year, and promptly got hurt again, all hes done since he came to Seattle. Ben Obomanu is coming off a broken collarbone. I dont know, would you say the wr core is a tad iffy?

ZachThomas76
01-26-2009, 07:35 PM
Yes, but the fact that they were injured doesn't make the argument. They are all going to be back. And then again, reports have to be taken into consideration in who "likely" will "SEA" take. Not who "we" would take.

SEA "has" WRs. So to say they actually 'need' one. Not.

But even if we say they do, reports have come out that they want a veteran WR. Not a rook.

How the hell does injury not play into it? Branch cant stay healthy, they know that. Who knows at this point what Burleson's knee will be like in September? Hes not a #1 wr anyway. 2 years ago Bobby Engram had close to 100 catches for them. Thats a major loss if hes gone. Get a clue Ed, seriously. Just because a "report" says they are interested in TJ doesnt mean they will get him. After I saw you post on here that Jason Allen will start at corner for Miami, I knew you were a bit lost, but come on man..........

MrEd
01-26-2009, 07:45 PM
How the hell does injury not play into it? Branch cant stay healthy, they know that. Who knows at this point what Burleson's knee will be like in September? Hes not a #1 wr anyway. 2 years ago Bobby Engram had close to 100 catches for them. Thats a major loss if hes gone. Get a clue Ed, seriously. Just because a "report" says they are interested in TJ doesnt mean they will get him. After I saw you post on here that Jason Allen will start at corner for Miami, I knew you were a bit lost, but come on man..........

You need to get a clue bro. I will say it slower..."R E P O R T" Out .... SEA is looking for a "V E T E R A N" WR. :unsure:

So since I am trying to make a "wise" guess at who is going to be available and where....I have to take the present reports that SEA is looking for a VETERAN like Houshmansadah. Period.

You can't just look at MIA and say, "Ok. We need a RT because Vernon Carey is a FA, so MIA's #25 pick will be a RT". That's stupid.

Reports are that Vernon Carey is a top of MIA's priority list in re-signing. So that must be taken into consideration when making a mock draft guess at who MIA will take at #25.....as of reports TODAY.

Now, once March comes and goes and say MIA didn't re-sign or franchise Vernon, then you "change" your guess based on "modern" facts.

So it is with this one. Does SEA need a WR. Maybe. But reports, AS OF TODAY, are that SEA does "NOT" want a rookie (they have a bunch of those behind Branch and Burleson, but that they are looking for a VETERAN like TJ.

if they failed to sign TJ....then we "change" our guess.

So, "thats" getting a clue! :woot:

3rdandinches
01-26-2009, 08:17 PM
Crabtree makes the most sense to me because 1st off you do not allow a freak athlete pass by you. Is he a great need for them ? No but it's not like they line up Boldin and Fitz. 2nd their Oline needs to be fixed in the very near future, so that allows them to draft an Olineman or two later to develope behind W.Jones for a year or two. Wahle needs to be replaced but we're talking a Guard in the 3rd or later probably.
So part of my arguement to take Crabtree is that there is no real great arguement for anyone else to take over him and no negatives in selecting Crabtree.

I too do not want more (another) young WR's in our lineup but there's no way I'd pass up Crabtree because of it.

MrEd
01-26-2009, 08:32 PM
Crabtree makes the most sense to me because 1st off you do not allow a freak athlete pass by you. Is he a great need for them ? No but it's not like they line up Boldin and Fitz. 2nd their Oline needs to be fixed in the very near future, so that allows them to draft an Olineman or two later to develope behind W.Jones for a year or two. Wahle needs to be replaced but we're talking a Guard in the 3rd or later probably.
So part of my arguement to take Crabtree is that there is no real great arguement for anyone else to take over him and no negatives in selecting Crabtree.

I too do not want more (another) young WR's in our lineup but there's no way I'd pass up Crabtree because of it.

This is why Andre Smith makes the most sense. He would immediately replace Wahle next to Jones. And then when Jones is done, Smith moves to the LT spot.

Smith is consider a can't miss prospect just as Crabtree. And then there are doubts that Crabtree's speed my not be that good in the Combines.

Finally, like I said in an earlier post, reports are that SEA doesn't want another young rookie WR, but will pursue a veteran like TJ Housh from CIN.

I must take that into consideration in making up who will be SEA's pick. OL is the most important spot.

Remember when SEA had Steve Hutchinson? They made it to the SB. They will be picking Andre Smith, not Crabtree.

Why would they pick Crabtree if they have Branch on one side and TJ Housh on the other? C'mon, guys, we are using are heads here, not our emotions...:shakeno:

MrEd
01-26-2009, 08:38 PM
Well, my strict "constitution" is to use wisdom and insight when making decisions, not what's popular or what people who aren't using common sense want.

I'm going to have to go on a Mike Mayock type limb here and say that the likely pick for SEA will be OT Andre Smith.

He will probably start at LG or RT and then move to LT once Jones is done. But of course, right now, Jones is in his prime.

I'm sure they have not forgotten how the team played when they had Hutchinson...and have seen what Hutchinson has done with MIN.

OL is very important. Yes, even more important than WR....especially, like I said, according to reports...(which is what we have to go by RIGHT NOW, at least) is that they are looking to sign TJ Housh.

So Andre Smith it is...on to CLE at #5...