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Buff
01-27-2009, 09:19 AM
2009 draft, 2 rounds.

No FA, No trades, no franchise players bought into play. Just what I think the teams should do, and maybe in brackets what i THINK they will do. Plus I only see 1 game a week, so the players picked have been based on stats, comments, needs & you tube....

(Be gentle everyone...criticism accepted, abuse not required)

1. Detroit........Eugene Monroe, LT. The Lions need help everywhere, and I think they should look at what Miami did last year, and work on the same concept. Dont get a QB. Get lineman. Next year, they will still have the 1st pick, so they can get Sam Bradford. (I think they will pick Stafford this year. Management will still suck.)

2. Rams.........Michael OHER, L/T. Again., help the lines. They got one Long last year for the defence, now go the O Line. (Monroe, Detroit will get Stafford, Monroe will be the 2nd pick,)

3. KC............Aaron CURRY. LB. A shoe in for the Chiefs. There offence is OK, and Thigpen deserves a full year as a starter. There defence needs help. He brings it. (Curry)

4. Seattle.......Michael Crabtree, WR. Easy pick. easiest of the draft IMO.

5. Browns......Beanie Wells, RB. Lewis will slkow down quickly & this guy has the size & speed to make the Browns an offensive threat with the running game. (Jenkins, CB)

6. Cinci.........Andre SMITH, O/T. Again, a team that needs offensive lineman. An instant upgrade on most of the front 4.

7. Raiders.......Jason SMITH. O/T. Someone has to help Russell stay in the pocket & open holes for McFadden. (Maybe, just maybe Maclin here.)

8. Jags..........Rey Maleluga (SP) LB. Petersen is gone, and Rey steps in & takes his place.

9. Pack..........Brian ORAKPO, DE. Takes over from where KGB left off.

10. 49rs..........Malcolm Jenkins, CB. The 9rs need secondary help, and this bloke brings it. Best CB in the draft. I think other teams have slightly more pressing needs, thats why he fell to 10. (I think the 9rs will tab Sanchez in reality)

11. Bills..........Everett Brown DE. The bills need secondary help too, but I think if Brown is still aound, they will grab him.

12. Denver......Tyson Jackson, DE. There defence stunk. This bloke has the ability to change the way they play.

13 Skins.........Clint SINTIM, LB. How much longer for JT? London Fletcher is getting on. Problem solved

14 Saints........James Laurinatus ILB. Vilma may be gone, and this guy steps in & plays. Some knocks about his senior year being average, but the Saints need a fast LB, and this is him.

15. Texans......Vantae DAVIS, CB. The Texans need secondary help, and this guy is the best available to help there secondary. Good size & quick.

16. Chargers....BJ Raji. The best nose in the draft. Wont start straight away, but will replace Jamal Williams in a couple of years.

17. Jets.........Mat Stafford, QB. Really, who cares, but for the sake of the arguement, Favre is at best a maybe, Chad P is ours, so they gotta look. I dont think the Lions will pass on him with the 1st pick, but in my draft they do, & he will fall to here. (If Lions do grab him, then the Jets will pick a RB.)

18. Bears......Jeremy Maclin, WR. Who have they got? Hester. This pick is a no brainer. ( I still think they will grab a WR with their 1st pick, probably Percy Harvin)

19. Bucs.......Percey Harvin, WR. They need a WR, and he is a local. (In reality, the bears grab him, so I think they will tag Heywood Beys.)

20. Lions......Brian Cushing LB. More defensive help. Playmaker, although slightly injury prone.

21. Cards......Knowshon Moreno. RB. Edgerin James will have 1 more year, then this guy & Hightower will form a great tandem.

22. Vikings....Alex Mack, C. Can play all spots on the front line. tough, smart, versatile & strong.

23. Pats.......William Moore, S. An upgrade here over Sanders. Harrison is getting on in years, so the replacement is picked.

24. Atlanta......Duke Robinson. G. Will backup Dahl & Blalock, then start for Dahl.

25. Miami......Rashad Johnson. S. Toss up between him & Delmas. Both will upgrade the secondary.

26. Ravens....DJ Moore, CB. Will strengthen an already strong secondary. I don't think the Ravens need a lot of help......There strong pretty much everywhere.

27. Indy....Fili MOALA, DT. Indy struggled a bit last year defensivly against the run, and he can help.

28. Philly....Ebon Britton. OT Has good size, and can blass & pass protect. .

29. NYG....Alphonso Smith, CB. Not tall, but hits & knows where to find the ball. Will replace Sam Madison & Dockery.

30. Tennesee..Darius Heywood Beys. WR. Big, strong, fast. McCarins isnt the answer at WR. This guy can be.

31. Philly....Aaron Maybin. DE. A luxury pick. Can be a good pass rusher with more experience.

32. Steelers....Louis Delmas, S. If we select him, then Steelers will grab Johnson....


Round 2.

Detroit..Michael Johnson DE
Cinci.....Perria Jerry DE
KC........Patrick Chung S
49rs......Mark Sanchez QB
Oakland.Karl Nicks WR
Seattle..Andy Levitre OG
Rams.....Macho Harris, S
Texans..Clay Mathews OLB
Pats......LeSean Mcoy RB
Jags......Brandon LaFell WR
Browns..Darius Butler CB
Denver..Evander Hood DT
Miami....Ron Brace NT
Pack.....Trevor Canfield OG
Indy......Kenny Britt WR
NYG......Brandon Pettigrew TE
Vikes....Michael Hamlin S
Dallas...David Bruton S
Bills......Chase Coffmann TE
Jets.....Sean Smith CB
Pats.....SenDerick Marks DT
Atlanta.Jarred Cook TE
Bears...Herman Johnson OG
Cards...Phil Loadholt OT
Ravens.Demetrius Boyd WR
Eagles..James Davis RB
Bucs....Rhett Boman QB
Miami...Eric Wood C
Carolina.Jaron Gilbert OT
Pitt.....Troy Kropog OT
NYG....Mohamed Mossaquoi WR
Titans.Curtis Taylor S

DubVman
01-27-2009, 09:34 AM
ummmmm why do you have the cardinals selecting at 21???

DubVman
01-27-2009, 09:36 AM
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-4-1074/Updated-2009-NFL-draft-order--1-thru-30.html

Get your order right

Buff
01-27-2009, 09:48 AM
Funny thing is, two draft sites that I have been looking at still have the cards at 21. I thought it was odd, but thats what I got my info from. One is the draft countdown site.

phinfan33
01-27-2009, 10:11 AM
i like those first 3 picks for us so far...a FS,NT,&C as our first 3 picks,i'm ok with that...we can get both LB positions,and a few more Guard positions filled in the other rounds,plus depth at some of those positions as we go...

rev kev
01-27-2009, 11:23 AM
i like those first 3 picks for us so far...a FS,NT,&C as our first 3 picks,i'm ok with that...we can get both LB positions,and a few more Guard positions filled in the other rounds,plus depth at some of those positions as we go...

I'm down with that too... still think a C can be picked in the third rd... there are 5 of them and there won't be one going in the first.., and all aren't going in the second...

Looks like there will be a run on 3/4 OLB and NTs

skipp2myloo13
01-27-2009, 06:20 PM
delmas in the first if that is what you are going for. delmas is better than the overhyped Johnson.

NRA
01-27-2009, 07:57 PM
pretty damn good mock man.

best i have seern so far and the pics at there spots are not out
of the question.

then in the 3rd go:

JUAQIN IGLASIAS, wr georgia. caught absolutely EVERYTHING at the senior
bowl practices and game. great routes and speration. open ALL game.

in the 4th.......

ROBERT AYERS: DE is a need. you cant have to many and vonnies days
are numbered. guy is a beast, i dont care about his experiance. he was
a stud ata major school and dominated in the senior bowl practices and
had a great s/b game.

in the 6th.....

HOWARD [HOUSE] JOHNSON: OT lsu. 6-6 388lb monster with more muscle than
lard. you CANT get around him unless he trips. would anchor the rt side for years
and cary will probably be gone.

i dont think most of our 7ths will be there. they will be used to trade around some
how.

that is what i would add to the mock.

lbmclean_sj
01-27-2009, 08:32 PM
Brace and Wood would be sweet

put Sintim or English in round 1 and it would be awesome

FINFAN_4_EVER
01-27-2009, 08:53 PM
pretty damn good mock man.

best i have seern so far and the pics at there spots are not out
of the question.

then in the 3rd go:

JUAQIN IGLASIAS, wr georgia. caught absolutely EVERYTHING at the senior
bowl practices and game. great routes and speration. open ALL game.

in the 4th.......

ROBERT AYERS: DE is a need. you cant have to many and vonnies days
are numbered. guy is a beast, i dont care about his experiance. he was
a stud ata major school and dominated in the senior bowl practices and
had a great s/b game.

in the 6th.....

HOWARD [HOUSE] JOHNSON: OT lsu. 6-6 388lb monster with more muscle than
lard. you CANT get around him unless he trips. would anchor the rt side for years
and cary will probably be gone.

i dont think most of our 7ths will be there. they will be used to trade around some
how.

that is what i would add to the mock.

didnt Igleasias go to OU?

NRA
01-28-2009, 02:38 AM
yes, OU.

Roman529
01-28-2009, 05:11 AM
I'm down with that too... still think a C can be picked in the third rd... there are 5 of them and there won't be one going in the first.., and all aren't going in the second...

Looks like there will be a run on 3/4 OLB and NTs

I think Jonathan Luigs of Arkansas is just as good, if not better, than Wood of Louisville at Center. Hopefully we can draft a bigger Center and move Satele to RG.

MrClean
01-28-2009, 06:34 AM
pretty damn good mock man.

best i have seern so far and the pics at there spots are not out
of the question.

then in the 3rd go:

JUAQIN IGLASIAS, wr georgia. caught absolutely EVERYTHING at the senior
bowl practices and game. great routes and speration. open ALL game.

in the 4th.......

ROBERT AYERS: DE is a need. you cant have to many and vonnies days
are numbered. guy is a beast, i dont care about his experiance. he was
a stud ata major school and dominated in the senior bowl practices and
had a great s/b game.

in the 6th.....

HOWARD [HOUSE] JOHNSON: OT lsu. 6-6 388lb monster with more muscle than
lard. you CANT get around him unless he trips. would anchor the rt side for years
and cary will probably be gone.

i dont think most of our 7ths will be there. they will be used to trade around some
how.

that is what i would add to the mock.

I guess you mean Herman Johnson and he is projected as a 2nd rounder. He also played well in the Senior Bowl. No way he lasts til the 6th

Robert Ayers is also projected as 2nd round

JFoxx
01-28-2009, 12:00 PM
Other than a few issues, not that bad compared to others I've seen. There's no way Stafford will slip that far down. Any other year and I might buy that, but not after a year where teams watched rookies like Ryan and Flacco bring their teams so much success.

ChambersWI
01-28-2009, 12:32 PM
aside from a the order miss cue, not bad overall, but a couple issues.

1.Stafford will not fall that low. IMO he doesn't make it past KC.

2.Oher is not worth the 2nd overall pick.

3.With your reasoning for the Vikings, I think you meant to draft Max Unger. Mack is a center, Unger can play any position.

4.I like Rashad Johnson as a 2nd round pick, but not a first.

TheBow305
01-28-2009, 01:43 PM
The 2nd round is nice, but Rashad Johnson in the 1st, over Sean Smith? No thank you!

Buff
01-29-2009, 03:57 AM
aside from a the order miss cue, not bad overall, but a couple issues.

1.Stafford will not fall that low. IMO he doesn't make it past KC.

2.Oher is not worth the 2nd overall pick.

3.With your reasoning for the Vikings, I think you meant to draft Max Unger. Mack is a center, Unger can play any position.

4.I like Rashad Johnson as a 2nd round pick, but not a first.

I understand where your coming from. I thinks the Lions will pick him 1st overall. The mock is what I think should happen, not what will probably happen.

My reasoning for Oher 2nd overall is that Monroe will, IMO, be 1st overall, and the Rams don't necessarily need a qb. Not yet. KC, I think, should give Thigpen another full year. He did OK, but again, what the FO do is different slightly to my thinking. I meant Mack. He can play all along the front line. So versatile, and smart. Johnson I think will be a first round pick. Again, IMO.

But, thanks all for the constructive criticism.

When the order is corrected, only a few minor changes.

I still have the Vikes going with Mack.
The Pats may be interested in Moreno the RB.
Atlanta will still pick Duke Robinson,
Miami will take either Delmas or Johnson,
Ravens will take DJ Moore,
Indy will stick with Moala
Philly may take William Moore, or stick with Britton.
NYG will take Smith
Titans will pick Heywood Beys,
Philly will pick Maybin or Britton or William Moore,
Pitt will take either Delmas or Johnson, whoever Miami dont pick.

Thats it.

Thanks again.

FinaticalOne
01-29-2009, 10:18 AM
Brace and Wood would be sweet

put Sintim or English in round 1 and it would be awesome

I rather have Cushing over Sintim. Cushing can play all 3-4 LB positions, while Sintim can only play the WLB spot in the 3-4. With the uncertainty of Crowder coming back, that leaves us extremley thin at the ILB spot, we need to go with someone that is more versatile (Brian Cushing). We still have Cameron Wake to play both OLB spot. With Porter still here, Wake will challenge Roth at the SLB position. When Porter leaves, Wake will probably move over to the WLB. So Cushing can fill the ILB spot vacated by Crowder.

skipp2myloo13
01-29-2009, 06:08 PM
Sanch wont make it out of the first, look at flacco, he want a first round pick last year and ended up being. i have seen sanch in the top 10 in some drafts.

skipp2myloo13
01-29-2009, 06:09 PM
Duke Robinson in the first would be nice, as would delmas.

BillParFan
01-29-2009, 06:21 PM
I'm down with that too... still think a C can be picked in the third rd... there are 5 of them and there won't be one going in the first.., and all aren't going in the second...

Looks like there will be a run on 3/4 OLB and NTs

Yep!

Two teams switcing to 3/4 plus Dallas would love to get a nt and move Ratliff over.

Keep in mind Parcells found both Ferg and Ratliff in the seventh round!