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CedarPhin
01-28-2009, 02:42 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3861079

ChambersWI
01-28-2009, 03:00 PM
top to bottom it's not a bad conference. Utah, TCU, and BYU can compete with anybody in the country. Colorado State is gonna get better, New Mexico is traditionally a solid program, as his San Diego State (which has underachieved in recent years).

Why not, out of all the "mid major" conferences, they have the best schools. Each program is committed to their football teams, and have top notch facilities.

CedarPhin
01-28-2009, 03:09 PM
I can't understand why SDSU can't recruit at all. It's in San Diego, one of the best cities in the US, they play in an NFL stadium, the women there are knockouts...and it's in San Diego!

Strange. They do have a good basketball team though.

TedSlimmJr
01-28-2009, 05:53 PM
Might as well just give it to them...

Then when the WAC starts pissing and moaning about the MWC getting an automatic BCS bid...give it to the WAC too..

Then the MAC can follow suit...followed by the Sun Belt Conference...and if Notre Dame can win 7 games...we'll give them one too...

We'll just have 10 meaningless BCS games instead of 4...

JCane
01-29-2009, 12:25 AM
No.

I am not a fan of this. There are still too many weak teams in that conference and you can say that this team and that team will get better or is on the rise, but the truth is, no one really knows. If the rest of the conference stays below average, Utah and BYU will dominate it year in and year out, get into the title game and get trounced by Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and Texas.

Let's look at what we DO know.

A. Utah and BYU are legit every year.

B. The Pac 10 is a weak conference and at the end of the year, USC's 1 loss hurts them—and it should.

However, Florida and Oklahoma both lost 1 game and in the end, it didn't hurt them as bad because they play a conference championship. Why not realign the Pac 10 by inviting BYU and Utah the same way the ACC did with Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College. Now, the Pac 10 can send two teams to BCS bowls. USC goes to the title game, and possibly Oregon or Oregon State to the Rose Bowl. It makes for better football. The Big 10 and the Pac 10 NEED to have 12 teams and a conference championship games. It makes for better football.

Anyone else think that this makes perfect sense?

Oraclepz
01-29-2009, 03:46 AM
well a playoff system will solve all of this!!!!

JCane
01-29-2009, 04:06 AM
Everyone thinks a playoff system solves everything lol.

CedarPhin
01-29-2009, 09:00 AM
Top to bottom, it's not the most impressive conference. UU, BYU, and TCU are the best teams in there. But, the rest of the league is pretty bad. UNM and CSU are solid, but UNLV, Wyoming, Air Force, and SDSU are terrible.

Oraclepz
01-29-2009, 01:21 PM
Everyone thinks a playoff system solves everything lol.


well whats your opinion?

HurriPhin
01-29-2009, 02:07 PM
Might as well just give it to them...

Then when the WAC starts pissing and moaning about the MWC getting an automatic BCS bid...give it to the WAC too..

Then the MAC can follow suit...followed by the Sun Belt Conference...and if Notre Dame can win 7 games...we'll give them one too...

We'll just have 10 meaningless BCS games instead of 4...

Actually there are 33 meaningless bowl games and 1 bowl game filled with questions, debates and overhype.

Locke
01-29-2009, 02:23 PM
New Mexico is traditionally a solid program

:lol:

I've been at UNM since 2001. Outside of a few Emerald Bowl appearances in that time, they have been pretty average. I'm personally hoping they don't. UNM has become way too concerned with trying to emulate the success of BYU and Utah, pouring a disproportionate amount of money into it, leaving the academic side to suffer. Buildings are falling apart all over campus, but they find money to completely renovate a portion of the football stadium. If the Mountain West gets an automatic bid every year, then they are just gonna throw more money into it trying to earn that bid...

X-Pacolypse
01-29-2009, 08:08 PM
I can't understand why SDSU can't recruit at all. It's in San Diego, one of the best cities in the US, they play in an NFL stadium, the women there are knockouts...and it's in San Diego!

Strange. They do have a good basketball team though.

I lived in San Diego for four years, and for the life of me I cannot understand why SDSU isn't more of a powerhouse. That city has EVERYTHING you could possibly ever want. The weather is almost always perfect, some of the most beautiful girls you'll ever lay eyes on, there is just so much to do out there!

CedarPhin
01-30-2009, 08:24 AM
It's also one of the nicest cities in the US.

I'm baffled why they can't bring people in. Not to mention they're right in SoCali.

Strange.

CedarPhin
01-30-2009, 10:00 AM
To me, the MWC is a much better Basketball conference than they are in Football. But maybe I'm the only one who thinks that.

Utah, BYU, UNLV, SDSU, TCU, AF, UNM..they're all good in basketball.

CedarPhin
01-30-2009, 10:01 AM
No.

I am not a fan of this. There are still too many weak teams in that conference and you can say that this team and that team will get better or is on the rise, but the truth is, no one really knows. If the rest of the conference stays below average, Utah and BYU will dominate it year in and year out, get into the title game and get trounced by Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and Texas.

Let's look at what we DO know.

A. Utah and BYU are legit every year.

B. The Pac 10 is a weak conference and at the end of the year, USC's 1 loss hurts them—and it should.

However, Florida and Oklahoma both lost 1 game and in the end, it didn't hurt them as bad because they play a conference championship. Why not realign the Pac 10 by inviting BYU and Utah the same way the ACC did with Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College. Now, the Pac 10 can send two teams to BCS bowls. USC goes to the title game, and possibly Oregon or Oregon State to the Rose Bowl. It makes for better football. The Big 10 and the Pac 10 NEED to have 12 teams and a conference championship games. It makes for better football.

Anyone else think that this makes perfect sense?

People's Republic of Cal would never let the Utah schools in.

NMPhinsFan
02-03-2009, 09:23 AM
I don't see why not. Of course I'm a New Mexico fan so I'm a little bias. As many people have said, Utah, BYU and TCU can play with just about anyone in the country. Air Force has made two straight bowl games and Colorado State is reviving their football program after a couple of down years. UNM was bad this season but typically is good for 6-7 wins and SDSU is a sleeping giant in my opinion with the hiring of Rocky Long as defensive coordinator

CedarPhin
02-03-2009, 10:57 AM
Utah and TCU are the only teams that consistently can compete with the big boys. BYU has a pretty good system there, but they can never beat teams from the BCS conferences. I know they beat Oregon and UCLA, but neither of those teams were really motivated going into the bowls, and UCLA was terrible this year when they killed them in Provo.

Utah's been consistently good for awhile now. If they would add someone like Fresno State or Boise State, then I think you could give them an auto-bid. But, with only 3 good teams, I don't think you can give it to them right now.

I wouldn't be opposed to it.

ChambersWI
02-03-2009, 05:36 PM
It's also one of the nicest cities in the US.

I'm baffled why they can't bring people in. Not to mention they're right in SoCali.

Strange.

they actually have produced some NFL talent in recent years. Outside of Kirk Morrison, nothing to write home about, but they'll get you to the NFL (Plus, Marshall Faulk is an alum). SDSU's problem is they've underachieved with a first time HC, and a guy that was a JUCO HC (a great JUCO HC, but still only a JUCO HC) maybe a decent HC like Hoke can turn them around

CedarPhin
02-03-2009, 07:31 PM
They've got all the advantages, they just need to play their cards right.

Bumpus
02-04-2009, 01:00 PM
No.

I am not a fan of this. There are still too many weak teams in that conference and you can say that this team and that team will get better or is on the rise, but the truth is, no one really knows. If the rest of the conference stays below average, Utah and BYU will dominate it year in and year out, get into the title game and get trounced by Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and Texas.

Let's look at what we DO know.

A. Utah and BYU are legit every year.

B. The Pac 10 is a weak conference and at the end of the year, USC's 1 loss hurts them—and it should.

However, Florida and Oklahoma both lost 1 game and in the end, it didn't hurt them as bad because they play a conference championship. Why not realign the Pac 10 by inviting BYU and Utah the same way the ACC did with Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College. Now, the Pac 10 can send two teams to BCS bowls. USC goes to the title game, and possibly Oregon or Oregon State to the Rose Bowl. It makes for better football. The Big 10 and the Pac 10 NEED to have 12 teams and a conference championship games. It makes for better football.

Anyone else think that this makes perfect sense?
Don't get me started on the conference-raiding B.S.

I still have not forgiven the chicken-**** ACC, Miami, VT, or BC.