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RealDriscoll
01-28-2009, 03:38 PM
The Detroit Lions select....

Let's look at this hard for a moment. It seems that most mocks have Matthew Stafford going #1 and to be honest I just don't see it. If Sam Bradford would have declared he would have been the pick but I don't think Staffords play at Georgia merits the #1 pick. He has an NFL arm but he lacks the intangibles. What big game has he won? I just don't think it will happen.

Andre Smith has gotten plenty of attention for this pick and I just don't see it. In my mock I have the Lions taking Smith with the 1st pick but just because I think they will take him doesn't mean I think it is a good value. He is nowhere near as good as Jake Long who was this pick last year. Andre Smith has terrible footwork and is abused by speed-rushers. He has red flags such as the fact that he missed the biggest game of his life because he was taking money from an agent. I think it has to be impossible to take a guy with red flags #1 overall but if someone would, it would be the Lions.

Michael Crabtree is interesting because we know that the Lions love drafting Wide Receivers in Round 1 such as Calvin Johnson, Carlos Rogers, Mike Williams, and Roy Williams. I just think this time with a new front office they know they have to fill other holes.

The smart money for me is to start with defense. If I were the GM of the Lions the pick would be Aaron Curry. Not only do you draft a versatile linebacker who has the ability to play both inside and outside but you draft a leader. Aaron Curry is a vocal player and could be the Ray Lewis of the Lions.

It will be interesting to see where they go ...I think the pick will be Andre Smith but I also think the pick SHOULD be Aaron Curry

Buff
01-29-2009, 04:22 AM
Completely understand your thinking. Thats why I went Monroe at 1. I think they will pick Stafford, but I wouldn't. Lets face facts here, Detroit will still suck, still have the No1 pick in 2010, & then they will pick Bradford.

CedarPhin
01-29-2009, 09:30 AM
I think they'll get Stafford. They have Daunte, Stanton, and no one else. They've got alot of problems on that team though.

JayFin327
01-30-2009, 12:54 PM
Michael Crabtree is interesting because we know that the Lions love drafting Wide Receivers in Round 1 such as Calvin Johnson, Carlos Rogers, Mike Williams, and Roy Williams.

Its actually Charles Rodgers :up: Carlos Rodgers actually plays for the skins.

emeraldfin
01-30-2009, 01:04 PM
I think Stafford is the way to go because with the O-Line being deep again this year you can still get a very good Lineman at 21. While I would really doubt you get a Matt Stafford at 21.

Oraclepz
01-30-2009, 01:46 PM
Its actually Charles Rodgers :up: Carlos Rodgers actually plays for the skins.


Speaking of Charles Rogers.... remember this? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxOjTl5bwDE

JimToss
01-30-2009, 02:45 PM
I think Stafford is the way to go because with the O-Line being deep again this year you can still get a very good Lineman at 21. While I would really doubt you get a Matt Stafford at 21.

I would actually argue that the O-line class is worst then last year, it is just the demand for the position has gone up drastically. Teams have seen rookie OT's dominant and they want that (Long, Clady, Thomas.)

I think both Long and Clady stand out head and shoulders as prospects over all the T's this year. This is not just hindsight, many experts had a problem distinguishing between who was the better prospect last year.

I know people knocked Jake for beinga bit sloppy in pass protection but he clearly did not have the problems that Smith showed especially during the BCS game. His heart was also never called into question like Ohers (who I believe to be the best prospect this year.) Monroe has kind of becme the default #1 tackle now, however he had a very inconsistent junior year at VA.

I think they go Stafford too. A new coaching regime almost always means a new QB.

sn9ke.eyes
01-30-2009, 05:19 PM
I don't think you can knock a guy for no big game wins. How many did Peyton have in college and he went #1.

dr.jake
01-30-2009, 10:27 PM
if it was anybody but the lions i'd say crabtree was the most impressive offensive player i saw all year. but with their past WR baggage i'd bet they'd opt for a QB. if i could pick any player in the class regardless of need i'd take lb rey maluaga. 2nd option:usc safety mays. both are can't miss picks.

JT-forpresident
01-30-2009, 11:59 PM
the detroit lions select, georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford

MrClean
01-31-2009, 12:54 AM
The Lions should take a page from Parcells, Ireland and Co. Build the offensive line and defensive front 7 first, and from the inside out. The one thing the Lions need to do here is take the safest pick, the player least likely to be a bust. I agree with Real, that player is none other than Aaron Curry. Come back at #20 and look for line help, if one of the top 4 OTs drop, take him, or else perhaps Eben Britton, Tyson Jackson, someone like that.

I am Bane
01-31-2009, 01:42 AM
detroit should trade the #1 down a little bit if they are able to do so

#1dolphinsfan
01-31-2009, 02:13 AM
OT Andre Smith

Dr. Phin
01-31-2009, 03:02 AM
detroit should trade the #1 down a little bit if they are able to do so

Just like last year, there is no "true #1" that everyone just has to have. (Of course, noone knew at the time what Matt Ryan would turn out to be...I bet we could have traded our #1 real easy if they knew that ahead of time...anyway, I digress.)

The first ten picks are about of equal quality, with only Crabtree being the real standout...and he is a receiver, which marks him down IMO. So, the teams with the first 10 picks aren't really in a need to move up. For those picking later, moving up a dozen picks or so will be costly.

2413fanphins
01-31-2009, 10:56 AM
I may be inclined to take smith or curry at #1. knowing nothing of there defense though, I would question if you take curry, how well does ernie sims move to another position.

If I am the lions, I am calling every FO in the league, and asking what they will give for the #1 overall, than selling to the highest bidder.

accumulate picks, get the hell out of the big guaranteed money you have to pay the first pick in the draft.

#1 Fan
01-31-2009, 12:18 PM
i think stafford has bust written all over him. having said that, i think detroit takes him with the first pick.

MexDolfan
01-31-2009, 02:15 PM
NFL has always been marked with tendencies, when something works for a team the rest of the league tries to copy it.
This way, when some mix of player aspects become attractive, next year draft & free agency there's a high demand for such model of players. On the other side if somehow a style of player becomes risky or inefficient, there are doubts on picking that kind of players.
So after the bad experience of Alex Smith & Jamarcus Russell and the upsets of Vince Young & Matt Leinart there was a risky outlook about picking QBs on 2008 draft. But after the impact of Ryan & Flacco there exists a hot requirement for rookie QB, which intensifies on the fact that being under a deflated economy, big money must be placed on sure franchise players, those who may be attractive to fans for future days.
So Detroit lacks of such player and every new management tends to include a new passer to lead offense.
That said, even Matthew Stafford is the favorite for several mock drafters, this seems to be a two horse race between him and Mark Sanchez, mostly because of what both showed at their respective bowls.
Other options are DT/NT B. J. Raji (mostly because he's the only real NT available on this draft and it will be too expensive to get a quality NT on FA), RB Knowshon Moreno (this pick makes sense in Detroit since Lions' fans are nostalgic for Barry Sanders' incredible style the same way Dolphins are nostalgic for Marino's arm) & WR Michael Crabtree (he's a big playmaker that only makes sense if this team can address a fine passer o FA).
One thing is for sure, Detroit will wait until last second in order to deal the best contract for them.

CedarPhin
01-31-2009, 02:24 PM
I'd laugh if Detroit took another WR.

MrClean
02-01-2009, 12:33 AM
I may be inclined to take smith or curry at #1. knowing nothing of there defense though, I would question if you take curry, how well does ernie sims move to another position.

If I am the lions, I am calling every FO in the league, and asking what they will give for the #1 overall, than selling to the highest bidder.

accumulate picks, get the hell out of the big guaranteed money you have to pay the first pick in the draft.

A team needs two OLBs. Sims can play the weak side and Curry the strong side. No problem. Ryan Nece becomes a backup.

RiderOnTheStorm
02-01-2009, 11:49 AM
Surely if the Lions cant trade down, they will pick the best offensive tackle. If they sure up the QBs blindside with the top rated tackle, they can ride with Culpepper at QB for another season.

By picking Stafford, they have a player learning the game for a year whilst still seeing their QBs getting a season long beating.

2413fanphins
02-01-2009, 11:55 AM
A team needs two OLBs. Sims can play the weak side and Curry the strong side. No problem. Ryan Nece becomes a backup.



ovethinking and confused myself.....

love your mock by the way.