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frostyphin84
02-01-2009, 01:47 AM
Bj Penn Got Worked...

phinfan33
02-01-2009, 02:10 AM
ok,not sure who that is or what you mean by that...

Lorenzo Rules
02-01-2009, 02:20 AM
who the hell is BJ Penn is that a wr that is new to the celebration department in the nfl?

ssnjamerson
02-01-2009, 02:30 AM
Yeah he got destroyed. I cant believe he go beat so bad. I mean as much as he talked on the spike countdown shows him throwing in the towel makes him look like a puss. BJ Penn is a beast and GSP simply make him look foolish. It was his night. Watch Serra beat him again. BJ Penn just doesnt train enough and thinks he can beat everyone just by showing up. I hope he gets serious and trains and dedicates himself to fighting. If he does that he can beat GSP. ANd Lyoto Machida is what 14-0 now. Doesnt he deserve a title shot. He knocked out undefeated Silva, Tito Ortiz, Sokodju,Nakamura, Vernon White, BJ Penn, Rich Franklin , Bonner. He has beat alot of good fighters I think he deserves a shot.

frostyphin84
02-01-2009, 03:11 AM
Lyoto is still kind of young, doesnt have as many fights as some UFCers might, Im not sure if they were saying he was going to get the next fight, but im sure theres people ranked ahead of him, but he'll get one if he keeps goin the way he is. bj is mean, but hes not in the same class at 175, at 155 his natural strength is enough, but its hard to match strength with someone who walks around at 185 when you walk around at 165, hes just not big enough to fight at that level in the higher classes. and GSP is a freak, he's making an argument for the most dominating champ ever. I wanna see him and anderson silva go at it.

tfh_rules
02-01-2009, 03:12 AM
ya that was a serious whoopin. BJ doesn't belong in that weight class, he didn't look like he put on any muscle weight, he just put on weight.
Plus GSP is the most dominant fighter in UFC now.

TooDrkPark
02-01-2009, 09:59 AM
How is this related to Dolphins news?? Pssst...this is a football forum if you didn't notice.

Phins Rock
02-01-2009, 10:06 AM
...?????

lol. Ok....

That was a waste of a click.

dphinsx2
02-01-2009, 12:39 PM
Anybody know where I can find the fight?

R_t_Kraken
02-01-2009, 05:58 PM
who the hell is BJ Penn is that a wr that is new to the celebration department in the nfl?


ok,not sure who that is or what you mean by that...

You guys should probably come out from under that rock. BJ Penn in an MMA fighter, you know that sport that's about to knock boxing into obscurity in the world of combat sports, thank god.

As for the fight. Yeah Penn did get 'worked' but he's a natural lightweight who went up a class. He got out-muscled.

also, GSP is a cheater. Greasing himself up to avoid submissions

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/02/2qk8gae-1.gif

it didn't play a role in the fight cause the NSAC caught the illegal act and wiped off the vaseline.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/02/2cz2g6q-1.gif

BobDole
02-01-2009, 11:51 PM
You guys should probably come out from under that rock. BJ Penn in an MMA fighter, you know that sport that's about to knock boxing into obscurity in the world of combat sports, thank god.

As for the fight. Yeah Penn did get 'worked' but he's a natural lightweight who went up a class. He got out-muscled.

also, GSP is a cheater. Greasing himself up to avoid submissions

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/02/2qk8gae-1.gif

it didn't play a role in the fight cause the NSAC caught the illegal act and wiped off the vaseline.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/02/2cz2g6q-1.gif

i hate st pierre. he's really, really ... french. and now he cheats too. awesome. i was hopin penn would hurt him.

frostyphin84
02-02-2009, 01:17 AM
You guys should probably come out from under that rock. BJ Penn in an MMA fighter, you know that sport that's about to knock boxing into obscurity in the world of combat sports, thank god.

As for the fight. Yeah Penn did get 'worked' but he's a natural lightweight who went up a class. He got out-muscled.

also, GSP is a cheater. Greasing himself up to avoid submissions

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/02/2qk8gae-1.gif

it didn't play a role in the fight cause the NSAC caught the illegal act and wiped off the vaseline.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/02/2cz2g6q-1.gif

pretty much anyone who doesnt where tape is going to have lubricant on, your allowed to have some, i dont have any real feelings for gsp, either good or bad. but you cant take anything away from him. hes a hell of a fighter....

eric1589
02-02-2009, 01:45 AM
GSP is the best.
just watch him fight if you dont believe that.

R_t_Kraken
02-02-2009, 04:43 PM
pretty much anyone who doesnt where tape is going to have lubricant on, your allowed to have some, i dont have any real feelings for gsp, either good or bad. but you cant take anything away from him. hes a hell of a fighter....

As far as I know you're only allowed to have it on your face, and not globs of it either.

Explain why the AC representative in the red blazer(there's two) is seen wiping him off with a towel in the last clip?


GSP is the best.
just watch him fight if you dont believe that.

He out muscled and beat up a natural 155'er GSP walks around at 185 and has to cut to 170. It's not that spectacular.

I respect his ability but he's not the best right now. That would be Fedor and A.Silva.

dphinsx2
02-03-2009, 08:20 AM
I would would be a great fight between GSP and Anderson Silva.

eric1589
02-03-2009, 11:42 PM
yes it would

R_t_Kraken
02-04-2009, 01:41 AM
Silva would destroy GSP. He'd end up tapping to strikes just like against Matt Serra.

eric1589
02-04-2009, 05:44 PM
Silva would destroy GSP. He'd end up tapping to strikes just like against Matt Serra.


i dont think he would destroy him. but it would be one hell of a fight. anderson silva has knock out power. i think if gsp were to lose to him, that would be how.

R_t_Kraken
02-04-2009, 07:40 PM
i dont think he would destroy him. but it would be one hell of a fight. anderson silva has knock out power. i think if gsp were to lose to him, that would be how.

Silva is the best kickboxing/muaytai(precision combination strikes, punches/kicks/knees, KO power in all) specialist in MMA. GSP isn't close in striking. Hypothetically speaking -- if he could take Silva down he could lay and pray his way to victory, but Silva has good bjj too, so he's dangerous off his back as well. Those long limbs of his make striking and JJ that much more effective for him. Anderson isn't a 155er that GSP can bully around. A.Silva is a 185'er that has fought at 205 that can bully GSP around.

milldog
02-04-2009, 07:55 PM
How is this related to Dolphins news?? Pssst...this is a football forum if you didn't notice.

Clueless???? This site is intended for many purposes besides football, zip it!

eric1589
02-04-2009, 11:38 PM
you make some good points.

BobDole
02-06-2009, 05:46 PM
Silva is the best kickboxing/muaytai(precision combination strikes, punches/kicks/knees, KO power in all) specialist in MMA. GSP isn't close in striking. Hypothetically speaking -- if he could take Silva down he could lay and pray his way to victory, but Silva has good bjj too, so he's dangerous off his back as well. Those long limbs of his make striking and JJ that much more effective for him. Anderson isn't a 155er that GSP can bully around. A.Silva is a 185'er that has fought at 205 that can bully GSP around.

agreed 100%

silva would abuse st pierre. him and fedor are by far the best in mma.

st pierre is a great fighter but 1. he got dominated the first time by a guy who got ***** slapped by shonie freakin carter and 2. the first penn fight was clown shoes. penn got robbed the first time around and he just didn't 'feel' like training properly this time, a la karo parisyan. not to mention he is in by far the weakest division in mma, excluding featherweights of course. penn had to put on 20 pounds just for st pierre to get some decent competition!

i think machida - which probably isn't saying much - and eddie alvarez are the next big things. rashad is also great but just developed hands the last few years - he just laid on guys before that and drove me crazy.

R_t_Kraken
02-07-2009, 07:03 AM
i think machida - which probably isn't saying much - and eddie alvarez are the next big things. rashad is also great but just developed hands the last few years - he just laid on guys before that and drove me crazy.

I think you're right about Machida. Can't really comment on Alvarez cause I don't pay any attention to anything outside of UFC, or Affliction. As far as i'm concerned he's in the minor leagues. I'm not sold on Rashad, he's a solid wrestler and has good power but I think he's been more lucky than anything.
Machida will make him look foolish.

Also you said the WW division is weak, well, I sort of agree, but don't sleep on Alves vs GSP. Also I know Koscheck lost to GSP already, but he was a little too green then (much like when Forrest fought Tito)

Other guys that I could see becoming serious players at 170, Martin Kampmann, Carlos Condit, Dustin Hazelett.

btw, good to see there are some other people on FH interested in MMA.

BobDole
02-07-2009, 02:58 PM
I think you're right about Machida. Can't really comment on Alvarez cause I don't pay any attention to anything outside of UFC, or Affliction. As far as i'm concerned he's in the minor leagues. I'm not sold on Rashad, he's a solid wrestler and has good power but I think he's been more lucky than anything.
Machida will make him look foolish.

Also you said the WW division is weak, well, I sort of agree, but don't sleep on Alves vs GSP. Also I know Koscheck lost to GSP already, but he was a little too green then (much like when Forrest fought Tito)

Other guys that I could see becoming serious players at 170, Martin Kampmann, Carlos Condit, Dustin Hazelett.

btw, good to see there are some other people on FH interested in MMA.

i'm still not sold on rashad either but its hard to ignore consecutive knockouts against chuck and forrest. it is just amazing to see how he has gone from a pure wrestler to a feared striker with crazy fast hands in the last year. the progression from the bisping fight to the griffin fight - only a year apart - is unbelievable. i thought tito, chuck, and forrest would make him look stupid so i will reserve judgment - but machida should own him.

alvarez is no joke. him and fedor are the only two i can think of outside the ufc that could just come in and completely dominate. i have been watching mma since the tank abbott (my favorite) days and fedor is the most insane thing i have ever seen. he has expressed interest in fighting guys in the ufc so im surprised they haven't brought him in - he is getting up there in age. did you see the tim silvia fight? i know silvia is kind of a chump but to see how quickly fedor tore him apart was nuts. would love to see him go up against couture or lesnar.

kampmann - who was great in the mcfedries fight after taking punishment from arguably the heaviest hitter in the ufc - and condit are good prospects although they both have their knocks. i don't think hazelett is all that impressive though. he had a solid victory against burkman but has looked bad in his losses. his power is suspect at best. alves is pretty damn good though.

i don't like how metro-popular mma has become. i was at a bar in virginia a few weeks ago and some dude decked out in tap out gear asked to get downs on the next game of pool. i was trying to be nice and make conversation - i saw he had an affliction t shirt on - so i asked if he had watched the fedor/orlovski fight the night before. this guy then informs me that affliction is a clothing company started by randy couture and i didn't know what i was talking about. as you could imagine, my cousin and i - huge mma fans - completely ridiculed this goon until he stormed out in a gay tizzy. what is the deal with these guys? i don't own any mma gear - mostly b/c of the people that typically wear it - but how did mma clothing become popular to people who don't even watch it? its not so bad here in florida but they were fugging everywhere in virginia.

anytime you want to talk about it - i know my stuff. i'm surprised more people on here aren't into guys beating the hell out of each other.

eric1589
02-07-2009, 05:22 PM
you ever hear joe rogan talk about mma and foot ball.
this is male, monkey dominance.

R_t_Kraken
02-08-2009, 06:50 AM
pretty good fights tonight for free TV.

Anyone catch Josh Neer accidently punching himself in the head with Danzig in his half guard.

If not.. enjoy. :lol:

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/02/3263013290_609d45b536_o_d-1.gif

By the way a mod should change this thread to MMA discussion or somethin. Would be nice.

dphinsx2
02-08-2009, 09:42 AM
Can you imagine if he would of knocked himself out?
The one thing I don't like about machida is, his fighting style usually makes for boring fights. Look at when he fought tito, tito wanted to fight but machida ran around the ring to avoid contact. I would rather watch rampage or the axe murderer fight. You at least know someone is getting knocked out.

R_t_Kraken
02-08-2009, 07:20 PM
I agree dphinsx2. Although effective as far as point scoring his style was awfully boring previously. But his last fight against Thiago Silva opened my eyes to what he could be. In that fight he still implemented his elusive style, but he was much more willing to be aggressive also, and he got the TKO. Hopefully we see more of that Machida.

BobDole
02-08-2009, 09:46 PM
Can you imagine if he would of knocked himself out?
The one thing I don't like about machida is, his fighting style usually makes for boring fights. Look at when he fought tito, tito wanted to fight but machida ran around the ring to avoid contact. I would rather watch rampage or the axe murderer fight. You at least know someone is getting knocked out.

that would have been funny as hell. neer is a tool with his last name tramp stamped on his back but he's a damn good fighter. great hands.

machida is great and his last fight was pretty damn exciting. that was just his game plan against tito i guess. but i like the dynamic strikers more as well. i don't like fighters that just look to go to the ground. i am so glad that the brazilian grappler phase is over.

Dolfan3773
02-08-2009, 10:46 PM
and that was after him talking all that trash but who watched Fight Night last night? Was it me or were the refs dumb/lazy? In the Miller/Rosholt fight, Dan Miller put him in the guillotine and the ref just stood in front like he wasnt paying attention..Dan Miller had to yell out "hes tapping" They also did horrible in the Grice/Veach fight and the Velasquez/Stojnic fight.

BobDole
02-08-2009, 11:12 PM
and that was after him talking all that trash but who watched Fight Night last night? Was it me or were the refs dumb/lazy? In the Miller/Rosholt fight, Dan Miller put him in the guillotine and the ref just stood in front like he wasnt paying attention..Dan Miller had to yell out "hes tapping" They also did horrible in the Grice/Veach fight and the Velasquez/Stojnic fight.

yup. i would have been super pissed if i was grice. he had veach basically down and out early in the round and the ref just let veach get abused. then after he gets hit a few times later on the ref stops it? way premature stoppage - he was still defending himself and looking to improve his position.

R_t_Kraken
02-09-2009, 04:13 AM
Yeah man. Grice got shafted. The amount of abuse he let Veach take only to stop it after Grice takes only two punches on the ground, but was still actively defending himself, unreal. I'd almost want to call fix lol, but why would they do that for two low level fighters.

As for Stojnic. Honestly I just wanted to see that blubbering fool go away. He did his best impression of "Cabbage" and not much else. I don't really care that they stopped it early because it wasn't competitive. It looked more like the UFC of old with the 'tough man' guys seeing how much of a beating they can take. They said this guy was a good striker and Sambo blackbelt I believe they said? No, he looked like a poor man's Butterbean.

Luckily Lauzon/Stephens and Danzig/Neer saved the show. Brice/Veach was good action to, shame it ended the way it did.