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ckparrothead
02-02-2009, 04:09 PM
Player: Christopher Owens

Year: Senior
School: San Jose State
Position: CB
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 180 lbs.
Age: 22
Arm Length: Unknown
Hand Size: Unknown

Career Stats: 228 Tackles, 7.0 TFLs, 20 Passes Defensed, 3 Forced Fumbles, 13 INTs Ret. 132 Yd, 0 TD
2008 Stats: 68 Tackles, 3.0 TFLs, 8 Passes Defensed, 2 Forced Fumbles, 1 INTs Ret. 25 Yd, 0 TD
2007 Stats: 75 Tackles, 2.5 TFLs, 3 Passes Defensed, 0 Forced Fumbles, 6 INTs Ret. 26 Yd, 0 TD
*Stats provided by NFL Draft Scout (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/)

Most Unique Attribute: Aggressiveness
Areas For Improvement: Strength, Size, Footwork

Projected Round: 4th

My Take: I know, I already wrote up a guy from San Jose State. Why stick with this school? There is a reason. First off, not a whole lot of people get to follow SJSU and so not a whole lot of folks may realize that the SJSU team, defense especially, is a small cache of NFL talent, some of whom will play on Sundays, and some of whom will make it to an NFL training camp to try their fortunes. When I watch SJSU play football, I see three GOOD Draft prospects for the 2009 NFL Draft. I also see two or three more guys that might get invited to a training camp as UDFAs this summer. And then I see some other guys that I will be keeping an eye on for future drafts, including one guy I feel has a chance to wind up Top 3 or 4 at a particularly loaded position for his class.

The key is that the defense in particular on this team, and especially the defensive backs, appear to be very well coached players. Jeff Ireland once said about Alabama that despite Miami fans' misgivings with him, Nick Saban runs a really top notch program over there and as a General Manager, you feel a lot safer taking a player from a program like that because he's going to have a lot of fundamentals down and be very prepared. Keith Burns, the Defensive Coordinator and Defensive Backs Coach of San Jose State, appears to me to be a very solid football coach. He may get a chance to improve upon the dismal record he accumulated as Head Coach of Tulsa from 2000 to 2002 (7-28).

This is a guy whose resume includes having coached CB Dwight Lowery, CB Brian Kelly, SS Kenoy Kennedy, CB David Barrett, FS Ken Hamlin, SS Caleb Miller, CB Jason Sehorn, SS Sammie Knight and CB Daylon McCutcheon at the college level. So, when Keith Burns fields a pair of All-WAC cornerbacks that are both headed to the draft on the heels of helping a defense that allowed only 170 passing yards per game, a stellar 5.7 yards per attempt, with quarterbacks only completing 52% of their passes, throwing 9 TDs to 16 INTs...you are absolutely forced to pay attention.

Now, Coye Francies is the guy that is grabbing the scouts' attention right now, and for excellent reason. Burns calls him the toughest player on the team, and says that he's not sure he has ever had a guy with his physical gifts. That is why it would be terribly unsurprising if Francies ended up the best cornerback to come out of this draft class.

But as aggressive and physical as Coye Francies is, Christopher Owens is more so. And, let's keep in mind, that when Coaches voted the All-WAC performers, they made Owens a First Team player and Francies a Second Team player. Additionally, Owens was invited to the Texas vs. Nation practices, and scouts were pretty clear that Owens was among the top one or two talents during the week.

Owens reminds me of an Antoine Winfield, and I don't like just throwing that term around. He might not have Winfield's physical strength but he has his mental aggression. And, between the two things, you can work on physical strength in the weight room. You don't often have success getting an unaggressive player to be aggressive. Or, as the term that Parcells and Sparano like so much goes, "if they don't bite as puppies, they don't bite."

Owens might be quicker than Coye Francies, we'll have to see at the Combine. He seems like the quicker change of direction type, that could work at slot CB in the NFL. He shows good closing speed and extension on the ball. His footwork is a little choppier than Francies', but effective. He'll open up and waste some movement in guesswork before recognizing the route a little better, but his hips are quick enough that he is able to do that while staying tight to the receiver's body.

He also shows the natural awareness to make plays by peeling off his man, whether that be intercepting the ball or leveling a would-be receiver (something that he's shown proficiency in doing, hence the forced fumbles). He has 13 career interceptions at San Jose State, one shy of tying the school record. He will get a little handsy at times, leading to some ticky tack officiating, but that is more a byproduct of his aggressive demeanor than something he needs to do to stay with receivers.

He fills against the run more than adequately, and seems even better at getting off WR blocks than Francies. A genuine tackle machine as a cornerback, he appears around the ball all the time and has averaged 6.0 tackles per game over his final two seasons, which projects to 95 tackles in a 16 game pro season. Hence the Antoine Winfield comparisons.

His primary weakness is that he is a 5'9" and 180 pound player, who needs to work on being stronger at the line of scrimmage on the jam, and stronger with the football in the air. Receivers find some success against him shielding the football with their bodies, to where he can't get through them. This, as well as the wasted movement and missed guesses, will be the biggest challenges he will face at the next level. But his hustle, speed, attitude, energy and effort will earn him a spot on an NFL roster and probably see him making plays.

And, when you look at the big picture, you have a physically aggressive tackling machine that makes all kinds of plays on the ball, doesn't allow many big receptions, was very well-coached for all four years, has the quickness to stay in the hip pocket, and 48 games worth of experience (38 as starter, I believe). All of those things will make me forget about his 5'9" and 180 pound size.

The downside is that for Miami, you probably only take him if you can get Andre Goodman and Will Allen locked up for the time being, and you can therefore bring a Chris Owens into the fold as a slot CB in nickel packages. His presence also does not solve our inability to make a heavy impact on receivers that have size going in their favor. I favor the strategy of taking two corners anyway, and you might want to pair an Owens up with a larger guy like Keenan Lewis, Dominique Johnson, or maybe even Sean Smith if he were to fall to #44 (highly doubtful). To be perfectly honest, I would relish the opportunity to import the pair of Francies and Owens directly to Miami as a pair.

JT-forpresident
02-02-2009, 04:42 PM
nice article CK, you really are down on the SJSU players huh ? :P

I have one question though... how is his special teams play ? if we are to draft a nickel back, he better contribute on special teams... and at 5'8 180 pounds, it might be a problem. On the other hand, you mentionned how he's aggressive and a tackling machine, so there might be a place for him in a punt and kickoff unit...

I also wanted to know, since i wasn't able to watch the darn texas vs the nation game (ooooh caaaanadaaa... lol) , how well did he play ? if you can also tell me about jamall lee, the canadian RB, it would be nice. In canada he's the best RB in the country, i wanted to see what he could do against US players EDIT: he's not a jesse lumsden, who cracked the redskins roster for a year, but he's almost as good...

TedSlimmJr
02-02-2009, 04:45 PM
So what in your opinion contributed to his dropoff in interceptions from 6 in his junior season, to 1 his senior season?

ckparrothead
02-02-2009, 04:58 PM
So what in your opinion contributed to his dropoff in interceptions from 6 in his junior season, to 1 his senior season?

He had a couple of opportunities, he didn't pull them down as well in 2008 as he did in 2006 & 2007. Also, keep in mind that even though Coye Francies came into the year as the guy people thought was more physically talented, he was a JUCO transfer (a standout, but still relatively unknown) and Chris Owens was the guy that had already basically been starting and picking off passes all through 2006 and 2007 opposite Dwight Lowery in the WAC (he had 12 heading into 2008).

He was voted First Team All-WAC for a reason. There's a good chance he just wasn't challenged that often.

Duke Ihenacho, the Safety I was talking about, he pulled down 5 interceptions. I think teams were trying to go away from Owens and Francies, hit up the middle of the field where Ihenacho as a Safety/Linebacker was anything but proven headed into this season. Duke only started playing football four years ago as a junior in high school. The middle of the field had to look especially attractive given all of the pressure that Jarron Gilbert, Carl Ihenacho and Jeff Schweiger were generating on the DL.

Together Owens and Francies combined for 4 INTs. The Safeties combined for 11 INTs (counting Newsome as a S, that's where he lined up). I think this suggests QBs were trying to hit up the middle of the field and avoid Francies/Owens.

ckparrothead
02-02-2009, 05:07 PM
BTW yes with Owens' mentality I wouldn't be surprised to see him play well on Special Teams.

ckparrothead
03-18-2009, 03:47 PM
Great video profile of Owens here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWYZzCWomw&feature=channel_page

Hmm, no wonder I featured him 6 weeks ago. :)

JT-forpresident
03-18-2009, 03:57 PM
reminds me of will allen, well, in that video...

thejetssuck
03-18-2009, 04:06 PM
Great video profile of Owens here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWYZzCWomw&feature=channel_page

Hmm, no wonder I featured him 6 weeks ago. :)

Your always ahead of the curve CK. I'm hoping Parcells and the gang have a close eye on this kid.

fishypete
03-18-2009, 07:55 PM
Too small...too light.

JC
03-18-2009, 10:48 PM
Too small...too light.

5'10 is average corner height. Mid 180's is a bit on the light side but some players work better being lighter than others. From what I saw he is a stout 180.

You would assume NFL weight lifting programs would give him an additional 5-10 pounds, putting him at around 190.

Will Allen is 5'10, 195 and has shown that he can work well at that height and weight. I would definitely love getting this guy in the later rounds, and CK i believe you found a steal in the later rounds.

FinAtic8480
03-19-2009, 12:55 AM
Here is something that should help CK with his thread watch it. Kid is the real deal. Excellent Thread CK.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWYZzCWomw&feature=channel_page

JT-forpresident
03-19-2009, 07:13 AM
Here is something that should help CK with his thread watch it. Kid is the real deal. Excellent Thread CK.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWYZzCWomw&feature=channel_page

? .... do you... hummm .... ? lol :confused:

just check 5 posts before yours ;)

fishypete
03-19-2009, 01:59 PM
5'10 is average corner height. Mid 180's is a bit on the light side but some players work better being lighter than others. From what I saw he is a stout 180.

You would assume NFL weight lifting programs would give him an additional 5-10 pounds, putting him at around 190.

Will Allen is 5'10, 195 and has shown that he can work well at that height and weight. I would definitely love getting this guy in the later rounds, and CK i believe you found a steal in the later rounds.

Perhaps awhile back 5'10" was the normal for Corners...but like receivers they have grown. You can't cover a 6'3" or 6'4" receiver if you are 5'9" like this kid Owens is. You can add weight...but you can't add height.

Lets remember the Dolphins play both Moss and now Owens twice a season...both large receivers.

Negatives: Doesn't back down from the physical challenge of bigger receivers, but simply is too short to handle their height in jump-ball situations. Adequate hip flexibility. Loses a step in his transition and isn't explosive out of his breaks. Allows separation and isn't big or strong enough to get back around the receiver to knock away accurate passes.

P.S.

"a steal in the later rounds" One would think that him being selected in the late 3rd or 4th round is NOT a steal...since thats where he should be selected from the start.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings?&start_row=101

FinAtic8480
03-19-2009, 02:14 PM
Nothing has shwon Miami being linked to Owens, however they have been linked to Butler and Smith. I think Butler is 5'11 and Sean Smith is 6'3. Owens can play though and Ck posted him as an option in the draft, BTW is you look at the video I posted you can clearly see him covering a corner alot taller than him.

Nappy Roots
03-19-2009, 02:19 PM
Nothing has shwon Miami being linked to Owens, however they have been linked to Butler and Smith. I think Butler is 5'11 and Sean Smith is 6'3. Owens can play though and Ck posted him as an option in the draft, BTW is you look at the video I posted you can clearly see him covering a corner alot taller than him.



your not going to see us linked to ever prospect, thats impossible. do you seriously believe we will ONLY draft Bulter or Smith?

fishypete
03-19-2009, 02:21 PM
your not going to see us linked to ever prospect, thats impossible. do you seriously believe we will ONLY draft Bulter or Smith?

No...but the odds are they would like Sean Smith over a smaller corner.

ckparrothead
03-19-2009, 02:24 PM
I fully believe that the Dolphins would like to find a bigger corner. Absolutely. Someone that maybe some people believe is a safety, but that they would play at CB. Basically, either Sean Smith, Jairus Byrd, Keenan Lewis or Sherrod Martin.

However, like Saban said once upon a time...you don't stock the fridge with just ketchup, even if you like ketchup. Then you reach for some mustard and find no mustard, just ketchup.

Christopher Owens would absolutely find a role on this team longer term. And so would Sean Smith.

jim1
03-19-2009, 02:26 PM
I fully believe that the Dolphins would like to find a bigger corner. Absolutely. Someone that maybe some people believe is a safety, but that they would play at CB. Basically, either Sean Smith, Jairus Byrd, Keenan Lewis or Sherrod Martin.

However, like Saban said once upon a time...you don't stock the fridge with just ketchup, even if you like ketchup. Then you reach for some mustard and find no mustard, just ketchup.

Christopher Owens would absolutely find a role on this team longer term. And so would Sean Smith.

Or maybe Coye Franceis

FinAtic8480
03-19-2009, 02:27 PM
CK we this organization already has a big corner in Jason Allen any chance the organization has hopes for him this season, when playing nickle last year he played pretty good and even the Pasqualoni it was a mistake of matching him up with Moss, because they simply wanted Will Allen to blitz.

fishypete
03-19-2009, 02:28 PM
I fully believe that the Dolphins would like to find a bigger corner. Absolutely. Someone that maybe some people believe is a safety, but that they would play at CB. Basically, either Sean Smith, Jairus Byrd, Keenan Lewis or Sherrod Martin.

However, like Saban said once upon a time...you don't stock the fridge with just ketchup, even if you like ketchup. Then you reach for some mustard and find no mustard, just ketchup.

Christopher Owens would absolutely find a role on this team longer term. And so would Sean Smith.

But at what price CK? Do you spend a late 3rd or early 4th on a nickel or dime corner? If he was a 6th or 7th rounder..or better yet a free agent...I would feel the same way...but I don't see his value to the team using a earlier draft pick.

ckparrothead
03-19-2009, 02:29 PM
No...but the odds are they would like Sean Smith over a smaller corner.

What does that even mean, with respect to Owens? How is that useful to the discussion at hand? Sean Smith is rated higher than Chris Owens, I love Owens and I wouldn't deny that. I have Smith as one of my top 2 corners in the draft. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in Owens at some point.

The one thing that will keep them looking at Owens is the fact that he's a tackle machine. His tackle totals at the college level project to almost 100 tackles a year at the pro level. That's Antoine Winfield-like tackling ability.

Would you want him covering Randy Moss or Terrell Owens in the red zone? No. But, he's a bottle of mustard, and guys like Sean Smith, Jairus Byrd, Keenan Lewis and Sherrod Martin are bottles of ketchup.

fishypete
03-19-2009, 02:31 PM
What does that even mean, with respect to Owens? How is that useful to the discussion at hand? Sean Smith is rated higher than Chris Owens, I love Owens and I wouldn't deny that. I have Smith as one of my top 2 corners in the draft. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in Owens at some point.

The one thing that will keep them looking at Owens is the fact that he's a tackle machine. His tackle totals at the college level project to almost 100 tackles a year at the pro level. That's Antoine Winfield-like tackling ability.

Would you want him covering Randy Moss or Terrell Owens in the red zone? No. But, he's a bottle of mustard, and guys like Sean Smith, Jairus Byrd, Keenan Lewis and Sherrod Martin are bottles of ketchup.

How much do we have to spend for that bottle of Mustard?

ckparrothead
03-19-2009, 02:32 PM
But at what price CK? Do you spend a late 3rd or early 4th on a nickel or dime corner? If he was a 6th or 7th rounder..or better yet a free agent...I would feel the same way...but I don't see his value to the team using a earlier draft pick.

Any corner you take in the late 3rd or 4th is ALREADY an iffy projection to start at some point of his career. What makes Owens any different?

Is Sherrod Martin, who has been a safety in his career at Troy, any more likely to end up a starting cornerback than the All-WAC interception and tackling machine Chris Owens? Really?

FinAtic8480
03-19-2009, 02:36 PM
Have to agree with CK I see this organization drafting atleast two corners. One possibly early a guy like Sean sMith or Butler and the second a guy similiar to Owens. BTW both Corner who have visited Miami are real good tacklers. Eric Green signed and Demarcus Faggins visited. Green is on the team and Faggins could sign.Green is an exceptional tackler and Faggins is a ST ace who can tackle as well. Will Allen is a good tackler as well and Jason who plays ST and Jones can also tackle well. So, to see Owens drafted by the Fins would make perfect sense cause they like corners who are good tacklers.

I have to agree with

JT-forpresident
03-19-2009, 02:37 PM
the one thing i really like about owens ( in what ive seen in that video) is his ability to mirror receivers and his ability to play without a big cushion. he's a will allen 2.0 IMO, and he might struggle early in his career but if he uses his skill set the way allen can, he might be even better than allen in the long haul, simply based on the fact that this kid seems to be able to break on the ball and make plays, will has had problems doing so.

size matters, but in this blitz-happy defence, having "mosquito-like" corners who stick to their receivers is much more important, because they will not make the quarterback feel comfortable throwing to a covered WR, even if there's a mismatch in size. That's just what pass rush is asking for, 3-4 seconds for a sack, and hesitation from a quarterback helps greatly, trust me.

obviously, owens would have problems in the redzone, but no one is perfect !

fishypete
03-19-2009, 02:39 PM
Any corner you take in the late 3rd or 4th is ALREADY an iffy projection to start at some point of his career. What makes Owens any different?

Is Sherrod Martin, who has been a safety in his career at Troy, any more likely to end up a starting cornerback than the All-WAC interception and tackling machine Chris Owens? Really?

What makes him different? We need quality...not quanity. We have scrubs already...don't we?

How about selecting a quality corner...for a change.

I'll stick with the Parcells model...size, speed and agilty.

ckparrothead
03-19-2009, 02:49 PM
What makes him different? We need quality...not quanity. We have scrubs already...don't we?

How about selecting a quality corner...for a change.

I'll stick with the Parcells model...size, speed and agilty.

Quality means high draft picks. We only have 3 first day draft picks and already that's one more than most teams have.

You can ask for the world, you're not going to get it. And there's nothing in the Parcells model that guides that the Dolphins couldn't draft Chris Owens. You're just pretending that there is.

SR 7
03-19-2009, 02:56 PM
owns has somethign our CB lack...sense of awareness and the ability to read WRs and routes. name one CB on our team that can do that. thats why Owens has constant tackles and INTS. he reads adn reacts ala surtain/madison.

ckparrothead
03-19-2009, 03:01 PM
That's something that makes San Jose State such a good school to grab defensive backs out of. You notice that on the film. You absolutely notice that quick recognition of routes and the field awareness. Dwight Lowery absolutely had it a year ago. Chris Owens has it. Coye Francies has it. Their safeties, like Duke Ihenacho, they have it. I really like their secondary coach. As I brought up originally, he has coached the likes of CB Dwight Lowery, CB Brian Kelly, SS Kenoy Kennedy, CB David Barrett, FS Ken Hamlin, SS Caleb Miller, CB Jason Sehorn, SS Sammie Knight and CB Daylon McCutcheon at the college level. The guy is a good teacher, grooms his DBs well.

fishypete
03-19-2009, 03:58 PM
Quality means high draft picks. We only have 3 first day draft picks and already that's one more than most teams have.

You can ask for the world, you're not going to get it. And there's nothing in the Parcells model that guides that the Dolphins couldn't draft Chris Owens. You're just pretending that there is.

Well I guess since we only have three first day picks...that obviously means we shouldn't get any better than average players then...right? LOL.

The Dolphins already signed Eric Green...now it's very possible they also sign Faggins...if they do...just how many nickle or dime corners would we have already on the team? They already have 7 corners on the roster.

We have enough nickle and dime corners...we need quality. This kid Owens may become a decent corner...but I highly doubt he'll become a starting NFL corner...unless due to alot of injuries...of course.

And thats the simple truth.

SR 7
03-19-2009, 04:08 PM
That's something that makes San Jose State such a good school to grab defensive backs out of. You notice that on the film. You absolutely notice that quick recognition of routes and the field awareness. Dwight Lowery absolutely had it a year ago. Chris Owens has it. Coye Francies has it. Their safeties, like Duke Ihenacho, they have it. I really like their secondary coach. As I brought up originally, he has coached the likes of CB Dwight Lowery, CB Brian Kelly, SS Kenoy Kennedy, CB David Barrett, FS Ken Hamlin, SS Caleb Miller, CB Jason Sehorn, SS Sammie Knight and CB Daylon McCutcheon at the college level. The guy is a good teacher, grooms his DBs well.

exactly. if htey have the recognition of routes and awareness at the college level you know it wiill only get better with more study of film in the NFL level and better coaching.

Lowery did a fine job if u ask me. Ntn great but adarn fine job. Id love that "fine job" CB in the 4th round. thats very good value.

ckparrothead
03-19-2009, 04:11 PM
This kid Owens may become a decent corner...but I highly doubt he'll become a starting NFL corner...unless due to alot of injuries...of course.

And thats the simple truth.

And you base that on your extensive experience watching him play football?

fishypete
03-19-2009, 04:44 PM
And you base that on your extensive experience watching him play football?

No actually anyone that follows football knows that these kids are seen since high school...let me know if ANYONE thinks he's going to be a starting NFL corner.

He is, what he is...late 3rd or 4th round pick.

JT-forpresident
03-19-2009, 04:48 PM
No actually anyone that follows football knows that these kids are seen since high school...let me know if ANYONE thinks he's going to be a starting NFL corner.

He is, what he is...late 3rd or 4th round pick.

yeah, and tom brady was only a 6th rounder, zach was only a 5th, hey kurt warner was undrafted ... that kid only has a 3rd round grade stamped on his forehead ! such a waste ! :rolleyes2:

fishypete
03-19-2009, 04:54 PM
yeah, and tom brady was only a 6th rounder, zach was only a 5th, hey kurt warner was undrafted ... that kid only has a 3rd round grade stamped on his forehead ! such a waste ! :rolleyes2:

Please...exceptions to the rule are always found...the point is you don't use a 3rd rounder for a dime or nickle corner...period.

JT-forpresident
03-19-2009, 05:05 PM
anthony henry was a 4th round pick for the cowboys, now is the starter
terrance newman was a 1st rounder and a starter
orlando scandrick was a 5th rounder
mike jenkins was a 1st rounder

i don't think you NEED first rounders to be starters in our agressive 3-4 scheme ... you'll also have a hard time convincing bill parcells, who preaches an elite front (pass rush pass rush pass rush ) instead of an elite secondary ( notice how mike jenkins wasn't drafted during the parcells era )

fishypete
03-19-2009, 11:21 PM
anthony henry was a 4th round pick for the cowboys, now is the starter
terrance newman was a 1st rounder and a starter
orlando scandrick was a 5th rounder
mike jenkins was a 1st rounder

i don't think you NEED first rounders to be starters in our agressive 3-4 scheme ... you'll also have a hard time convincing bill parcells, who preaches an elite front (pass rush pass rush pass rush ) instead of an elite secondary ( notice how mike jenkins wasn't drafted during the parcells era )

The Cowboys corners have gotten burned more than a group of girl scouts, with flame throwers!!

Before we get all excited over this kid Owens...perhaps we should be asking....have the Dolphins interviewed him? Have they set up a meeting? Is he coming to Davie?

If the answer is no to those questions...forgetaboutit.

tay0365
03-20-2009, 04:04 PM
The Cowboys corners have gotten burned more than a group of girl scouts, with flame throwers!!

Before we get all excited over this kid Owens...perhaps we should be asking....have the Dolphins interviewed him? Have they set up a meeting? Is he coming to Davie?

If the answer is no to those questions...forgetaboutit.

:confused: What does that have to do with anything? Do you really expect Miami to only draft players that have interviewed or had personal meetings with them?

Miami is getting as much info on as many players as they can, but they are not going to tip their hand on which way they will be going draft time....for all we know, Miami might end up drafting 3 DBs.

fishypete
03-20-2009, 04:18 PM
:confused: What does that have to do with anything? Do you really expect Miami to only draft players that have interviewed or had personal meetings with them?

Miami is getting as much info on as many players as they can, but they are not going to tip their hand on which way they will be going draft time....for all we know, Miami might end up drafting 3 DBs.

For the most part...Yes...I would expect the Dolphins to not only interview the players once but sometimes twice...before they select them.

I'll bet if you look at what they did last year with the players they selected....most if not all had interviews...either at the combine...or afterwards prior to the draft.

ckparrothead
03-20-2009, 04:45 PM
Christopher Ownens just ran a 4.40 and 4.41 at his Pro Day, jumped 35 inches.

Tell me again Pete how he doesn't have starting potential in him. You really sound like you know what you're talking about. Honest.

fishypete
03-20-2009, 05:33 PM
Christopher Ownens just ran a 4.40 and 4.41 at his Pro Day, jumped 35 inches.

Tell me again Pete how he doesn't have starting potential in him. You really sound like you know what you're talking about. Honest.

"Owens could provide good value as a nickel or dime cornerback on the second day of the draft. "

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/566620

CK...What was his three cone time...6.93...Barwin was 6.87
10 yd time...1.53....Barwin....1.58, 20 yd time...2.59...Barwin...2.68....shuttle time....4.16....Barwin....4.18....and Barwin weighs 80 lbs more than Owens.