PDA

View Full Version : How about Ron Brace at #25?



TheBow305
02-10-2009, 03:11 AM
I have no doubt in my mind that IF Raji were to be available to us at #25, we would probably take him. So, barring a blockbuster trade on draft day, he will not be there when we select.

What would you guys say to drafting his teammate Ron Brace. I'm going to admit, I haven't really been thinking about this possibility until just now. He is very similar to Raji and I really question just how much better B.J. is than Ron. After his great performances during the senior bowl week, he has been steadily rising up draft board. And with a solid combine effort I can see a first round push for Mr. Brace. He would be a perfect fit for our defense, so what do you guys think about us taking him at #25?

Roman529
02-10-2009, 03:48 AM
I didn't see that much difference between them. Raji caught most of the attention, but in the Boston College games I watched, and I think I saw four of them the past year, I thought Brace played just as well. I think Brace will get a lots of looks at the combine. It will be interesting to see if some other guys fall to us....I would love to take a peak at Parcell's war room draft board.

@@@
02-10-2009, 05:47 AM
Taking Brace before our 56 pick would be an epic blunder IMO. Brace was looking like a nice under the radar 3rd/4th guy but for my money he just isn't good enough at shedding blocks or active enough to be a top NT in the nfl and therefore not worth a high pick. Raji is also being overrated dur to this being a poor DT draft and IMO ought to be a borderline 1st/2nd guy

skipp2myloo13
02-10-2009, 08:01 AM
Better stretch before you reach that far, you may full something

Kdawg954
02-10-2009, 09:10 AM
wow this would be horrible. U pass up WAYYYY too much talent to reach for Brace here, plus u can get a NT later on.

Call me crazy but I much rather take Percy Harvin at 25 than Ron Brace . . . It is about upgrading the overall talent on your team, not reaching for a need.

CJGoCanes
02-10-2009, 01:44 PM
You laughed at me taking Robert Ayers in the first round and you're thinking about Brace at 25? Ouch

X-Pacolypse
02-10-2009, 01:49 PM
No way. That's a Ted Ginn Jr. type of reach by taking Brace at #25.

Canadi-Phin
02-10-2009, 04:06 PM
Call me crazy but adding Hervin is ridiculous at 25 as well. Would be a terrible pick consiering he is not a great receiver, he's great when the ball gets in his hands and isn't hurt, but they ran bubble screens and had him run the ball more often than not. Good luck with a talented guy who can't run crisp routes, most people think we already have one of them.

ArmyFin7
02-10-2009, 04:09 PM
Take Brace at 25 and take Pat White in the second....then I can have a bigger meltdown than I did when we drafted Ginn!!

Avigatorx
02-10-2009, 04:23 PM
If we are going NT at 25 I'd much prefer Peria Jerry to Brace (Raji of course is the no-brainer, but he will be long gone by then.)

Jerry is smaller than Brace, but he is quicker and gets better penetration, without the benefit of playing alongside a monster like Raji.

(I also have a little SEC bias :) )

JT-forpresident
02-10-2009, 04:46 PM
oh hell no, there will be much better players at more pressing position of needs IMO...

skipp2myloo13
02-10-2009, 07:28 PM
i rather give up a second to get RFA Gabe Watson then draft Brace in the second

uga3406
02-10-2009, 07:34 PM
I rather take him in the 3rd rd...I like him but no later then the 3rd

FearTheBeard
02-10-2009, 08:04 PM
honestly you bash JL with the first rounder and then you say Brace! Just because he's a nose tackle doesn't mean we should take one of the most overrated guys in the draft, the sole reason he gets any recognition is because he played behind Raji, personally i have a third round grade on him but he should end up going in the first half of the second round due to all the teams switching to a 3-4 and the general demand for nose tackles.

X-Pacolypse
02-10-2009, 08:07 PM
honestly you bash JL with the first rounder and then you say Brace! Just because he's a nose tackle doesn't mean we should take one of the most overrated guys in the draft, the sole reason he gets any recognition is because he played behind Raji, personally i have a third round grade on him but he should end up going in the first half of the second round due to all the teams switching to a 3-4 and the general demand for nose tackles.

I don't agree with OP about Ron Brace being a first rounder, but there are PLENTY of reasons to bash Laurinaitis.

skipp2myloo13
02-10-2009, 09:08 PM
I don't agree with OP about Ron Brace being a first rounder, but there are PLENTY of reasons to bash Laurinaitis.

I still dont understand how people can like or even want laurenitis. i loose respect for those people very quickly.

FearTheBeard
02-10-2009, 09:13 PM
I don't agree with OP about Ron Brace being a first rounder, but there are PLENTY of reasons to bash Laurinaitis.

my only point there is i'd take JL over Brace with are 1st pick and you gave me some grief when I had him in my mock, but believe me upon further review I'm just not high on either of them, i just happen to be particualrly lower on Brace. FYI the more I look at it the more I think Maualuga falls to us and he is a guy I think would be a perfect fit and a monster in our 3-4.

skipp2myloo13
02-10-2009, 09:16 PM
my only point there is i'd take JL over Brace with are 1st pick and you gave me some grief when I had him in my mock, but believe me upon further review I'm just not high on either of them, i just happen to be particualrly lower on Brace. FYI the more I look at it the more I think Maualuga falls to us and he is a guy I think would be a perfect fit and a monster in our 3-4.

Brace is a reach at 25, JL is a waste. i rahter get the talent and reach then a bust at "value"

FearTheBeard
02-10-2009, 09:18 PM
Brace is a reach at 25, JL is a waste. i rahter get the talent and reach then a bust at "value"

not to say there is a good chance JL busts and I might disagree with the pick, but he does possess alot of the qualities the the FO likes, hes smart, a team captain, decent size, hard working, but I do have trouble getting by how poor a tackler he is and how many more assisted tackles he has then solos...its strange because Marcus Freeman is the same in that regard and I don't see it with anyother teams.

NorFlaFin
02-10-2009, 09:27 PM
Ron Brace = John McCargo

Way over-drafted due to his linemates, I'll pass entirely.

TheBow305
02-10-2009, 09:28 PM
Wow you guys took this out of proportion. I NEVER said we SHOULD take him or we WILL take him, I just suggested something different to think about since he is really the only 2nd TRUE nose tackle in the draft and Parcells may not want to gamble and hope he's still there in the 2nd.

With the movement of many teams to the 3-4, true nose tackles will be in VERY high demand. Green Bay, San Fran, Denver, and KC are all making the switch and will all be picking before we do in the 2nd. It's VERY possible he will be long gone before we pick, unlike what many other people on here think. Then what? Take Terrance Taylor in the 3rd or 4th, a guy who's barely 6'0" and actually regressed his senior year. Or do we take a chance early on a guy like Hill, from D2 who will be a MAJOR project in the pros.

I'm just saying... Better to be safe then sorry. Although I am not advocating taking him that high, I'm merely pointing out that it is a possibility.

TheBow305
02-10-2009, 09:35 PM
Oh, and "Pile Jumper" sucks, nothing more to be said.

FearTheBeard
02-10-2009, 09:37 PM
Wow you guys took this out of proportion. I NEVER said we SHOULD take him or we WILL take him, I just suggested something different to think about since he is really the only 2nd TRUE nose tackle in the draft and Parcells may not want to gamble and hope he's still there in the 2nd.

With the movement of many teams to the 3-4, true nose tackles will be in VERY high demand. Green Bay, San Fran, Denver, and KC are all making the switch and will all be picking before we do in the 2nd. It's VERY possible he will be long gone before we pick, unlike what many other people on here think. Then what? Take Terrance Taylor in the 3rd or 4th, a guy who's barely 6'0" and actually regressed his senior year. Or do we take a chance early on a guy like Hill, from D2 who will be a MAJOR project in the pros.

I'm just saying... Better to be safe then sorry. Although I am not advocating taking him that high, I'm merely pointing out that it is a possibility.

I really believe this is a guy we should target in the fourth, he keeps a very good base and basically eats up blockers, that doesn't always give you the best looking numbers, think hes a better pro then college player if he gets into a 3-4. btw fair enough you did just present the idea.

WelcomeBack
02-10-2009, 09:52 PM
If we don't get Ron Brace, I've steadily grown on wanting to get Myron Pryor.

TheBow305
02-10-2009, 11:55 PM
If we don't get Ron Brace, I've steadily grown on wanting to get Myron Pryor.

I like Pryor, I'm just not sue he would be big or stout enough to anchor the 3-4 defense.

Miamifin23
02-11-2009, 12:22 AM
Duke Robinson at 25 would be the best pick as of right now.

WelcomeBack
02-11-2009, 12:37 AM
I like Pryor, I'm just not sue he would be big or stout enough to anchor the 3-4 defense.

I think he's got the frame to add the weight and still be as athletic as he is.

123KID
02-11-2009, 05:46 AM
kinda off topic but what about the nt from usc he any good for us cant remember his name Fili ????

Kdawg954
02-11-2009, 08:41 AM
Call me crazy but adding Hervin is ridiculous at 25 as well. Would be a terrible pick consiering he is not a great receiver, he's great when the ball gets in his hands and isn't hurt, but they ran bubble screens and had him run the ball more often than not. Good luck with a talented guy who can't run crisp routes, most people think we already have one of them.

Nah I don't like Harvin as our pick . . . what I was saying is . . . I would take Harvin over Brace if I had to . . . that is how much I would be like blah with Brace in round 1.

Who I like in round 1:

Realistically
DJ Moore
Alphonso Smith
Clint Sintim
Brian Cushing
Tyson Jackson
Darius Heyward-Bey


False Hope?
Rey Maulauga
Vontae Davis
Everette Brown
BJ Raji
Malcolm Jenkins
Michael Oher

Reach if we must?
Lou Delmas
Alex Mack

Kdawg954
02-11-2009, 08:43 AM
kinda off topic but what about the nt from usc he any good for us cant remember his name Fili ????

Think is Miola, and he really isn't a 3-4 NT, he is more of a 4-3 NT or a 3-4 DE from what I am hearing.

Brace is a pure 3-4 NT who I like, but not in round 1