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Dolphins9954
02-22-2009, 12:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46THxaYJIH0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plF-Gzjrhkg


This guy is amazing.

R_t_Kraken
02-23-2009, 11:06 PM
He's good, but he's madly overrated. He was getting tooled by Andrei Arlovski before Andrei got over-confident and lunged in and caught a straight right.

Dolphins9954
02-23-2009, 11:56 PM
He's good, but he's madly overrated. He was getting tooled by Andrei Arlovski before Andrei got over-confident and lunged in and caught a straight right.


Look at his record. It's remarkable. Arlovski was doing good. But never posed a threat. Fedor got one good hit and it was done. That's what makes him so good. His outstanding record of over 30 wins and only one loss. Which came from him getting cut. He was winning the fight. But got cut. The ref stopped the fight because of it. Even though he was winning in every scorecard. So in reality the man is undefeated. That's unheard of in MMA. You have to respect that. A lot of those fights were close. But the man always finds a way to win. And that's what makes a champion. Just watching the suplex that Randleman put him in alone shows how amazing he his. If that was you or I we would be in a wheelchair. Instead he ended up winning the fight.

Findetta
02-24-2009, 12:14 AM
Fedor is nasty, I'm glad to see he's coming back.

Tpaddle
02-24-2009, 12:37 AM
hes a beast and down to business which i like...that knockout of arlovski was nasty

R_t_Kraken
02-24-2009, 06:07 AM
Look at his record. It's remarkable. Arlovski was doing good. But never posed a threat. Fedor got one good hit and it was done. That's what makes him so good. His outstanding record of over 30 wins and only one loss. Which came from him getting cut. He was winning the fight. But got cut. The ref stopped the fight because of it. Even though he was winning in every scorecard. So in reality the man is undefeated. That's unheard of in MMA. You have to respect that. A lot of those fights were close. But the man always finds a way to win. And that's what makes a champion. Just watching the suplex that Randleman put him in alone shows how amazing he his. If that was you or I we would be in a wheelchair. Instead he ended up winning the fight.

His record: exactly what makes him overrated. He's got a who's who list of CANS, and a handful of legit wins over contenders. Who other than Big Nog, Barnett, and maybe Sylvia and Arlovski is really an impressive victory?

I respect his ability, he's very talented, but MMA fans like to paint him as the godfather of MMA. I don't agree with that at all.


hes a beast and down to business which i like...that knockout of arlovski was nasty

This guy is a beast as well.
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Not really, he just exposed Kimbum slice for the no talent backyard brawler that he is. Dude actually had the balls to call out Chuck Liddell, and he got KO'd by a soft punch from Seth. I litterly Lol'd on that one.

BobDole
02-25-2009, 05:51 AM
fedor is the best there is. he is an absolute freak. the only knock is the questionable competition he's faced b/c he hasn't made the move to the ufc. i've been watching mma since the beginning and i have never seen anything like him. to completely dismantle guys like he has is unbelievable.

kud, come on man, overrated? who has ever been as dominant as fedor? the only other fighter that was as dominant was gracie - and thats just b/c people didn't know how to defend against his submissions yet. there are absolutely no holes in fedor's game. i would love to see him and lesnar go after each other like the giant unhuman freaks they are.

Dolphins9954
02-25-2009, 10:42 AM
His record: exactly what makes him overrated. He's got a who's who list of CANS, and a handful of legit wins over contenders. Who other than Big Nog, Barnett, and maybe Sylvia and Arlovski is really an impressive victory?

I respect his ability, he's very talented, but MMA fans like to paint him as the godfather of MMA. I don't agree with that at all.



This guy is a beast as well.
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Not really, he just exposed Kimbum slice for the no talent backyard brawler that he is. Dude actually had the balls to call out Chuck Liddell, and he got KO'd by a soft punch from Seth. I litterly Lol'd on that one.


He defeated to UFC champions back to back. That's impressive along with all his other wins. His wins against CroCop and Nogueira are two great wins. His ability to beat people that are bigger and outweigh him is very impressive. Size doesn't matter with Fedor. He will take you out. And the one thing I like the most about him. Is that the man is a class act. A very humble person who treats all fighters with great respect. He doesn't trash talk. Or show off at all. The man is the champion and undefeated besides one technacality. That's unheard of in MMA. You have to respect that and give the man his props. Until someone beats him. He's still the champion.

Dolphins9954
02-25-2009, 10:52 AM
fedor is the best there is. he is an absolute freak. the only knock is the questionable competition he's faced b/c he hasn't made the move to the ufc. i've been watching mma since the beginning and i have never seen anything like him. to completely dismantle guys like he has is unbelievable.

kud, come on man, overrated? who has ever been as dominant as fedor? the only other fighter that was as dominant was gracie - and thats just b/c people didn't know how to defend against his submissions yet. there are absolutely no holes in fedor's game. i would love to see him and lesnar go after each other like the giant unhuman freaks they are.


The only reason Fedor hasn't moved to the UFC is because of Dana White.
Dana has constantly trashed talked Fedor. And Fedor doesn't like it. And refuses to fight for him. Not only that Fedor doesn't need Dana or the UFC. The man is quite successful and draws bigger crowds than any UFC fight. He's a humble guy that treats all other fighters with respect. And does things his way. At the same time Fedor beating 2 UFC champions back to back. Must have put a smile on his face. As for Lesnar and Fedor. I would love to see them fight. But it will be quick and short. One punch from Fedor and the giant Lesnar will go down. I've seen Fedor do it to many times. The man has amazing punching power and accurancy. Not to mention his ground game is the best there is. Lesnar is just big and strong and uses that to his advantage. Fedor would pick apart his weakness. The bigger they are. The harder they fall.

R_t_Kraken
02-25-2009, 02:21 PM
He defeated to UFC champions back to back. That's impressive along with all his other wins. His wins against CroCop and Nogueira are two great wins. His ability to beat people that are bigger and outweigh him is very impressive. Size doesn't matter with Fedor. He will take you out. And the one thing I like the most about him. Is that the man is a class act. A very humble person who treats all fighters with great respect. He doesn't trash talk. Or show off at all. The man is the champion and undefeated besides one technacality. That's unheard of in MMA. You have to respect that and give the man his props. Until someone beats him. He's still the champion.

Didn't say he wasn't impressive. He's the best heavyweight. But it's been probably the weakest division in all of MMA for a long time. I said he's overrated. I go to some MMA sites and people talk about Fedor like he's an 'unbeatable cyborg.'

Also, Crocop was exposed when he came to the UFC. Tim Sylvia has always been the sluggish tall dude that used his reach to beat poor opponents. When he fought Couture he was exposed.

R_t_Kraken
02-25-2009, 02:39 PM
who has ever been as dominant as fedor?

Chuck Liddell was 18-2, and a reigning champion for years in his prime against much stiffer competition in my book. To me dominance only goes as far are level of competition. Tossing around a bunch of japanese tomato cans is hardly stiff competition.

Not only that but I think Chuck could beat Fedor at heavyweight. But we'll never get to find out because Fedor refuses to come to the UFC.

Dolphins 9554 that is very inaccurate. The biggest reason Fedor wouldn't sign is because the UFC wanted him to be exclusive to the UFC, aka he couldn't compete in other MMA related events. Fedor wanted to continue to compete in combat Sambo. As I heard it Fedor was going to be the highest paid fighter in the UFC if he had signed. It's a big reason Couture quit the UFC briefly and why he demanded to negotiate a new contract.

Nappy Roots
02-25-2009, 02:49 PM
As I heard it Fedor was going to be the highest paid fighter in the UFC if he had signed.


i didnt hear that at all. i heard he wasnt going to be that highly paid, it was a 10 fight contract, but if he lost 1 fight UFC could shred the contract up and basically kick him out. if he won all 10 fights, his contract would automatically be renewed for the same terms for another 10 fights at the same money. i heard the other fighting thing as well, and i could understand UFCs stance on that.

btw, im not sure how you can really say he got "tooled" by AA. he was throwing punches while Fedor was feeling the fight out. he never connected with anything clean on Fedor.

Dolphins9954
02-25-2009, 05:28 PM
Chuck Liddell was 18-2, and a reigning champion for years in his prime against much stiffer competition in my book. To me dominance only goes as far are level of competition. Tossing around a bunch of japanese tomato cans is hardly stiff competition.

Not only that but I think Chuck could beat Fedor at heavyweight. But we'll never get to find out because Fedor refuses to come to the UFC.

Dolphins 9554 that is very inaccurate. The biggest reason Fedor wouldn't sign is because the UFC wanted him to be exclusive to the UFC, aka he couldn't compete in other MMA related events. Fedor wanted to continue to compete in combat Sambo. As I heard it Fedor was going to be the highest paid fighter in the UFC if he had signed. It's a big reason Couture quit the UFC briefly and why he demanded to negotiate a new contract.

Fedor doesn't need the UFC. He attracts bigger crowds than any UFC fight event. He didn't like the contract. He also didn't like Dana talking trash about him. He came from Pride. A great company that treated him with a lot of respect and let him fight where ever he wanted. It's pretty well known that Dana trash talked Fedor quite a bit. I'm sure that factored into the equation. Why would you want to work for someone that talks bad about you? When you can make quite a bit of money on your own and then some. Fedor taking on and beating 2 UFC champions in a row. Is a nice FU to Dana White. Dana wants a monopoly on MMA. Fedor is the only one stopping him.

Nappy Roots
02-25-2009, 06:23 PM
Chuck Liddell was 18-2, and a reigning champion for years in his prime against much stiffer competition in my book. To me dominance only goes as far are level of competition. Tossing around a bunch of japanese tomato cans is hardly stiff competition.

Not only that but I think Chuck could beat Fedor at heavyweight. But we'll never get to find out because Fedor refuses to come to the UFC.



you...you cant be serious? Not only is Liddell washed up, he hasnt been good in years.

BobDole
02-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Chuck Liddell was 18-2, and a reigning champion for years in his prime against much stiffer competition in my book. To me dominance only goes as far are level of competition. Tossing around a bunch of japanese tomato cans is hardly stiff competition.

Not only that but I think Chuck could beat Fedor at heavyweight. But we'll never get to find out because Fedor refuses to come to the UFC.

Dolphins 9554 that is very inaccurate. The biggest reason Fedor wouldn't sign is because the UFC wanted him to be exclusive to the UFC, aka he couldn't compete in other MMA related events. Fedor wanted to continue to compete in combat Sambo. As I heard it Fedor was going to be the highest paid fighter in the UFC if he had signed. It's a big reason Couture quit the UFC briefly and why he demanded to negotiate a new contract.

chuck was a great fighter for years but his issue has always been his chin. he went down by a weak shot from rampage and got flat out embarrassed by rashad. it was never an issue b/c his hands were light years faster than everyone else and his ability to land a damaging blow when retreating made it damn hard for anyone to tag him. but as he got older - so did his reflexes - and his ability to take a punch got exposed badly. fedor is so technical and precise i find it hard to believe that chuck could go 3 or 5 rounds without getting tagged a few times. in his prime (early 30's) he would've tried to put on a good show vs. fedor but eventually would have been knocked out, IMO.

i know dana trashes him but i never heard that about the contract. i've heard fedor say a few times that he would like to fight in the ufc - especially couture (who wants to fight fedor as well) - but i have to claim ignorance as to why he hasn't made the move.

the competition knock is valid - although i would say st pierre's division is by far the weakest in mma. silvia and orlovsky's best days are probably behind them but the way he just dismantled silvia was incredible. he knocked 6 foot 10 silvia up off his feet with that uppercut! say what you will about silvia, but his chin is solid. to take him out with a few quick punches is impressive any way you look at it. the fact that fedor has never been in trouble in any fight (that cut was clown shoes) has to say something.

BobDole
02-25-2009, 07:00 PM
The only reason Fedor hasn't moved to the UFC is because of Dana White.
Dana has constantly trashed talked Fedor. And Fedor doesn't like it. And refuses to fight for him. Not only that Fedor doesn't need Dana or the UFC. The man is quite successful and draws bigger crowds than any UFC fight. He's a humble guy that treats all other fighters with respect. And does things his way. At the same time Fedor beating 2 UFC champions back to back. Must have put a smile on his face. As for Lesnar and Fedor. I would love to see them fight. But it will be quick and short. One punch from Fedor and the giant Lesnar will go down. I've seen Fedor do it to many times. The man has amazing punching power and accurancy. Not to mention his ground game is the best there is. Lesnar is just big and strong and uses that to his advantage. Fedor would pick apart his weakness. The bigger they are. The harder they fall.

i know dana's a punk and trashes fedow when given the opportunity, but i didn't know it was that bad. they always fedor why he hasn't made the move and he usually says something along the lines of wanting to fight some of those guys but never goes into why he hasn't. he's mentioned wanting to fight couture on many occasions - that one would be quick.

probably right about lesnar - but that fight would still be cool to watch.

R_t_Kraken
02-25-2009, 08:40 PM
you...you cant be serious? Not only is Liddell washed up, he hasnt been good in years.

Of course i'm serious. He said "who was ever as dominant as Fedor?"

He was the reigning LHW champ for two years. His chin also wasn't questionable. He was regarded as having one of the better chins in MMA actually, Go watch Chuck/Rampage I or Chuck/Belfort or Chuck/Overeem if you think he has a questionable chin, Dole.

You said one thing right though Nappy, he's looking pretty close to done at 38 years old, his skills along with his chin has diminished. But i'd still bet on him to beat Fedor even today.

It's a shame Fedor is too much of a sissy to sign with the UFC so we can see more great fights. :err:

By the way BobDole, I don't know if your memory is hazey or what, but Couture knocked Sylvia down right out of the gate with a right hand just like Fedor did. The only difference is Couture doesn't have Fedor's sub game so he didn't finish. Timmys only noteable win is Arlovski.

Sorry I just skimmed through the posts. Fedor attracted more ppv buys than the UFC events? lol... that's hilarious! The last few UFC events did 1 million or close to that. Penn/St.Pierre had 1.3 million PPV buys.

Affliction shows hover around 100k buys. I think Fedor/Arlovski was estimated at 100-150k. I mean, it's not even close I don't know where you got your information.

A large amount of casual fans don't even know who Fedor is. A large amount of 'mma fans' in the states don't even know that Affliction exists, or that Pride ever existed, thus Fedor never existed to them.

the UFC could make Fedor a big star in the states, not the other way around.

Dolphins9954
02-25-2009, 09:48 PM
Of course i'm serious. He said "who was ever as dominant as Fedor?"

He was the reigning LHW champ for two years. His chin also wasn't questionable. He was regarded as having one of the better chins in MMA actually, Go watch Chuck/Rampage I or Chuck/Belfort or Chuck/Overeem if you think he has a questionable chin, Dole.

You said one thing right though Nappy, he's looking pretty close to done at 38 years old, his skills along with his chin has diminished. But i'd still bet on him to beat Fedor even today.

It's a shame Fedor is too much of a sissy to sign with the UFC so we can see more great fights. :err:

By the way BobDole, I don't know if your memory is hazey or what, but Couture knocked Sylvia down right out of the gate with a right hand just like Fedor did. The only difference is Couture doesn't have Fedor's sub game so he didn't finish. Timmys only noteable win is Arlovski.

Sorry I just skimmed through the posts. Fedor attracted more ppv buys than the UFC events? lol... that's hilarious! The last few UFC events did 1 million or close to that. Penn/St.Pierre had 1.3 million PPV buys.

Affliction shows hover around 100k buys. I think Fedor/Arlovski was estimated at 100-150k. I mean, it's not even close I don't know where you got your information.

A large amount of casual fans don't even know who Fedor is. A large amount of 'mma fans' in the states don't even know that Affliction exists, or that Pride ever existed, thus Fedor never existed to them.

the UFC could make Fedor a big star in the states, not the other way around.

You just exposed your bias.

BobDole
02-25-2009, 10:27 PM
Of course i'm serious. He said "who was ever as dominant as Fedor?"

He was the reigning LHW champ for two years. His chin also wasn't questionable. He was regarded as having one of the better chins in MMA actually, Go watch Chuck/Rampage I or Chuck/Belfort or Chuck/Overeem if you think he has a questionable chin, Dole.

You said one thing right though Nappy, he's looking pretty close to done at 38 years old, his skills along with his chin has diminished. But i'd still bet on him to beat Fedor even today.

It's a shame Fedor is too much of a sissy to sign with the UFC so we can see more great fights. :err:

By the way BobDole, I don't know if your memory is hazey or what, but Couture knocked Sylvia down right out of the gate with a right hand just like Fedor did. The only difference is Couture doesn't have Fedor's sub game so he didn't finish. Timmys only noteable win is Arlovski.

Sorry I just skimmed through the posts. Fedor attracted more ppv buys than the UFC events? lol... that's hilarious! The last few UFC events did 1 million or close to that. Penn/St.Pierre had 1.3 million PPV buys.

Affliction shows hover around 100k buys. I think Fedor/Arlovski was estimated at 100-150k. I mean, it's not even close I don't know where you got your information.

A large amount of casual fans don't even know who Fedor is. A large amount of 'mma fans' in the states don't even know that Affliction exists, or that Pride ever existed, thus Fedor never existed to them.

the UFC could make Fedor a big star in the states, not the other way around.


i remember those fights - i guess i'll have to check them out again. chuck was great - not taking anything away from him b/c he was dominant when that division was stacked with stellar competition - but i don't remember him ever having one of the better chins in mma. he always recovered quick, but i remember somewhat lighter shots knocking him off his feet on more than one occasion back when he was the man. but he is all but washed up now.

i remember that shot taking silvia down - it was a solid shot from a hell of a fighter - i wouldn't base my decision on him having a weak chin just from that. and silvia had a bunch of good wins against strong fighters - beat orlovsky twice, vera, munson, silva, lambert, and heavyweight champion at the time rodriguez. those are all notable victories. i'm not saying he's anything special but he's fought decent competition.

fedor does need to come to the ufc, regardless of the circumstances. that would be mutually beneficial for both - fedor's cult like following will grow and the ufc will finally be able to definitively say they have the best fighters in the world.

R_t_Kraken
02-26-2009, 01:29 AM
You just exposed your bias.

I didn't need to expose anything. All you had to do was ask, i'll tell you straight out I don't like Fedor. I realize he's the top heavy, and I acknowledge his skill set, but i'm not gonna turn a blind eye to the fact that he has no more noteable wins than a handful of other top fighters, past and present.

I also don't think he has much respect for his fan base either. Fans want to see him in the UFC. The UFC wants him. There are several fights there that are very intriguing. Couture, Lesnar, Mir, Gonzaga, Liddell and i'm sure other LHW's would jump up to get a shot at him. Various big money super fights could be set up. To me he's robbing the fans of this.

The UFC has most of the former big name PrideFC stars under contract. Why not Fedor?

Dolphins9954
02-27-2009, 12:37 AM
I didn't need to expose anything. All you had to do was ask, i'll tell you straight out I don't like Fedor. I realize he's the top heavy, and I acknowledge his skill set, but i'm not gonna turn a blind eye to the fact that he has no more noteable wins than a handful of other top fighters, past and present.

I also don't think he has much respect for his fan base either. Fans want to see him in the UFC. The UFC wants him. There are several fights there that are very intriguing. Couture, Lesnar, Mir, Gonzaga, Liddell and i'm sure other LHW's would jump up to get a shot at him. Various big money super fights could be set up. To me he's robbing the fans of this.

The UFC has most of the former big name PrideFC stars under contract. Why not Fedor?


Sorry. But when you call Fedor a sissy. I can no longer take you serious.