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pumpdogs
03-13-2009, 12:18 PM
With free agency winding down, it is time to start thinking draft.I think we are in a spot where we can take the best available player regardless of postition.A couple of guys I like are clay matthews, and hakeem nicks.I am not a fan of taking any of these corners in the first round because I do not think they are game changers.I love ron brace in the second round to be are nt of the future.

Rio
03-13-2009, 12:26 PM
obvious & immediate concerns: CB & NT
secondary concerns: WR & Center
reaching: LB & RB
interesting alternatives: Parcells always has something up his sleeve for mid & late rounds. also, would be interesting to opt for a hybrid play-maker that could start & make an immeditae impact like White (QB/W/RB) could plug into the WildCat w/o missing a beat.

pumpdogs
03-13-2009, 12:32 PM
I just do not like the crop of corners this year.I do not want to take an average corner and forsaking, in my eyes a stud reciever.I love nicks.I also think clay matthews is going to be a really good olb.

Cuzinfinny
03-13-2009, 12:42 PM
I just do not like the crop of corners this year.I do not want to take an average corner and forsaking, in my eyes a stud reciever.I love nicks.I also think clay matthews is going to be a really good olb.



One more reason I'm scratching my head over the Green thing.

Hope we are not finished here with CB in F.Agency. We need to pick up a good one and then we can focus on other things in the draft.

We should be grateful at that quality of CB who have been available, and take advantage of an area we need to desperately upgrade..........JMO

pumpdogs
03-13-2009, 01:08 PM
Besides ken lucas who is left?

rvicious
03-13-2009, 01:16 PM
Whatever the FO wants, I'am good with.

godolphins1985
03-13-2009, 01:16 PM
why over pay a CB that they feel isn't worth the money, ide rather sign average underrated players to decent contracts. Anyways look for them to draft at least 2 CB in draft, we will be better off then wasting money.

Swantoon
03-13-2009, 01:20 PM
Whatever the FO wants, I'am good with.
I love big brother too.

JimToss
03-13-2009, 01:21 PM
I actually really like the crop of corners this year. While there is no absolute standout CB (Jenkins is a bit slow and Davis doesn't have work ethic) there are many CB's that rate end of first round.
This means we should have options near the end of the first to select out starting CB. While there is always a chance one drops to our second round pick. No use in crying over no elite corners in the draft, seeing that someone like that would go top 10.

Lets look at it this way
Potential 1st rounders CB: Butler, Moore, Alphonso Smith, Sean Smith (From the National Champion Utah Utes), Jenkins (if he falls)
2nd round: Any 1st rounder that may fall possibly the Smiths, Macho Harris, Jarius Byrd, Coye Francies. Maybe even Mike Mickens or Jarius Byrd

3rd: Fallen 2nd rounders, Mike Parsons

I personally an very high on Butler and the Smiths. Harris has the chance of being a shutdown corner, or a big bust. Parsons could be great value in a later round. He was being slated as a first round prospect before this year. No one threw his way this year, but he shut down Ohio State.
I love Oregon, but Byrd has never really impressed me. The others I cannot say I know much about but just looked at some player rankings.

But, I would say this draft is deep in corners in position with our picks.

pumpdogs
03-13-2009, 01:51 PM
If it is deep as you say.Why pick one in the first round.Lets wait to the second or 3rd.

Cuzinfinny
03-13-2009, 01:54 PM
why over pay a CB that they feel isn't worth the money, ide rather sign average underrated players to decent contracts. Anyways look for them to draft at least 2 CB in draft, we will be better off then wasting money.

I don't know if this will do any good but I think that this should say something that a rational fan can be aware of.


"Miami’s pass defense ranked 25th in the NFL last season, allowing 228 yards per game."


Ya lets get another mediocre CB and save the money so that we can come back in another year or two and pay another average and cheap player even more money.

And the underrated CB,s are debatable.

godolphins1985
03-13-2009, 02:02 PM
I don't know if this will do any good but I think that this should say something that a rational fan can be aware of.


"Miamiís pass defense ranked 25th in the NFL last season, allowing 228 yards per game."


Ya lets get another mediocre CB and save the money so that we can come back in another year or two and pay another average and cheap player even more money.

And the underrated CB,s are debatable.

I understand what you are saying but just cause you pay some CB 25 million and 15 in guaranteed doesn't mean they will be good, if they arnt confident enough that one of those "top" CB are worth the money then why pay it when you can draft 1. Either way i do understand what you say, if the FO feels they have some great prospects in the draft then i will be happy waiting and saving some cash.

Cuzinfinny
03-13-2009, 02:33 PM
I understand what you are saying but just cause you pay some CB 25 million and 15 in guaranteed doesn't mean they will be good, if they arnt confident enough that one of those "top" CB are worth the money then why pay it when you can draft 1. Either way i do understand what you say, if the FO feels they have some great prospects in the draft then i will be happy waiting and saving some cash.

I remember Madison and Surtains rookie year. Nothing to jump up and down about and they both ended up playing in the PB.Its a complicated position and usually takes time for a rookie to learn that position.

Also feel that if we can fill that needed position with a good experienced "proven" again Proven FA at a price thats not out of this universe , it might be the wise thing to do.

Not only shoring up the position but also freeing us up to fill other important needed position with the draft.

The 25 million and 15 guarat. is your numbers and hopefully not what we'd most likely be looking at.

Although I feel for the right young player to nail down the position for years will come most likely not cheap but IMO the right player would be worth the investment.

I'd go 3.5 mil for the right player..... they are pretty creative with the salary stuff.

godolphins1985
03-13-2009, 02:46 PM
I remember Madison and Surtains rookie year. Nothing to jump up and down about and they both ended up playing in the PB.Its a complicated position and usually takes time for a rookie to learn that position.

Also feel that if we can fill that needed position with a good experienced "proven" again Proven FA at a price thats not out of this universe , it might be the wise thing to do.

Not only shoring up the position but also freeing us up to fill other important needed position with the draft.

The 25 million and 15 guarat. is your numbers and hopefully not what we'd most likely be looking at.

Although I feel for the right young player to nail down the position for years will come most likely not cheap but IMO the right player would be worth the investment.

I'd go 3.5 mil for the right player..... they are pretty creative with the salary stuff.

Ya i would love to lock down a proven 100percent stud for 4 years but apparently BP and Company doesn't feel that way about the FA's, thats not to say that those FA's arnt any good just might say that they didn't think they were worth there asking price. Then again maybe they are wrong and passed up a good FA worth the money but we will never know until the dust settles. Hopefully they know what they are doing (so far so good) and have a plan set cause we are not gonna look good this season even with the Green addition. Lets hope we draft 2 - 3 CB in the draft.

MDFINFAN
03-13-2009, 04:17 PM
This is a draft that is a luxury for us, in the fact that we DON'T HAVE to draft a starter. Even if some areas of our team are weak, i.e., CB...we aren't pushed into reaching because what we have is serviceable..so as the original poster wrote, we can go for BPA... I'm sure there are targets the organization would like to address..but they don't have to address it if the value is not there for a particular pick.. So this will be an interesting draft from that standpoint.. I'm sure they may reach in the lower rounds, but I doubt they reach in the first 4 rounds.. They can pretty much stick to their draft board..

pumpdogs
03-13-2009, 04:35 PM
I don't care if the top player is a running back(wells,moreno,mcoy,etc,)I hope we draft the best player on the board with the exception of QB.I would rather draft a potential star than an average need player.If we hit on the pick and we already have a good player at the postion we can trade that player for more picks down the road.

Rio
03-13-2009, 05:40 PM
you never know how a draft will develop
always got a surprise or two
with luck you get a BPA that fills a need

Danny
03-13-2009, 06:05 PM
if we can get a pass rush that is consisten then our corners will seem way better than what they are....you can have Lott and Haynes back there and Woodson and Sanders but if the QB has all day to trow is going to be hard to stop the WR's from making plays.Fix the pass rush and your DB's will be much better.

Ozzy rules!!

justdev7
03-13-2009, 06:54 PM
I'm all for drafting Nicks, he's a faster Anquan Bolldin. But I'm not a big fan of Mathews. If we go OLB then it needs to be a strong side guy, maybe Sintim. And if Ron Brace is still there in the second I wouldn't hesitate to snatch him up.