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FinAtic8480
03-15-2009, 02:18 AM
Some desperate team might be willing to trade up with the Dolphins to take Arizona's Eben Britton, Ole Miss' Michael Oher, or UConn's William Beatty in the late portion of the first round. The Bears, Bengals, Packers, Colts, Jaguars, Chiefs, Vikings, Patriots, Giants, Jets, Raiders, Eagles, Steelers, Rams, Chargers, 49ers, and Seahawks all need o-line help.

Could something be worked out that brings Bill Parcells and company more early picks say Andre Smith, who I'm told will be a right tackle or right guard in the NFL, free-falls that far? The Dolphins would love to add more second-round picks because that's where team's get the best bang for their buck.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2009/03/sparano-the-value-of-the-combine.html

I think Multiple picks would be involved. I think trading down could really help to add some quality players. I could see us getting OLB,CB and WR. Miami is said to be eyeing TE so that might be another position we could Address.

Here is something Im willing to bet on Miami does not have a 6th and I can see them trading a guy like Beck to try an aquire that pick.

playmaker1
03-15-2009, 02:35 AM
I could very realistically see something like this happen. And I would be ok with it. This is a team looking to build, and add depth through the draft.

Remember, Tuna was the guy who traded out of the 1st a few years back when he needed a RB and could have landed S. Jackson but knew he needed a RB and needed extra picks to build so he traded out and took J. Jones in the second. I guess it will be interesting to see when (if they do) make a trade. Do they wait right up until we're on the clock to gain more for who is left on the board, or do they start talks early.

We have a lot of needs, and I would love to see us fill some holes and bring in a lot of depth. We have a very solid nucleus of a team right now. Next step is to fill in the gaps.

Perfect23
03-15-2009, 03:04 AM
I believe that if Mauluga isn't available at 25 he will trade.

FuturePhin
03-15-2009, 03:22 AM
It all depends on what other teams are willing to cough up. Im fine with it either way as long as we have a draft like the last one.

playmaker1
03-15-2009, 04:03 AM
I believe that if Mauluga isn't available at 25 he will trade.

Um, He wont be available at 25 ..... :rolleyes2:

Perfect23
03-15-2009, 04:47 AM
Um, He wont be available at 25 ..... :rolleyes2:

You can never be to sure.

playmaker1
03-15-2009, 05:11 AM
You can never be to sure.

Yeah, I'm guessing the top inside LB is going to be gone well before 25. If you don't see that, your dreaming. Sorry.

showstopper
03-15-2009, 01:10 PM
Oh good God, it scares me to think that Parcells needed a RB and Steven Jackson was still available, so he traded down to get Jones and draft picks. I like Parcells but in hindsight, WOW! Jackson is awesome and Jones is so ordinary, OUCH!

uga3406
03-15-2009, 02:34 PM
I would love to see another 2nd pick or maybe even a 3rd pick...I love the way Parcells mind works

Dr. Phin
03-15-2009, 03:23 PM
Unless there is some real quality that drops to 25, I could easily see BP trading down. I just don't see a player we "have to have" that is projected to be there at 25. There are multiple players with what I would consider to be about the same caliber, so we could drop down...get extra picks...and still end up with the same quality...

FinAtic8480
03-15-2009, 03:41 PM
The reason I could see it happening is because you have so many positions of needs WR,OLB,MLB, CB and DT. These are all positions of need they also want to address G/T and TE.

finfan54
03-15-2009, 03:54 PM
One thing I wonder is would BB and BP actually trade here for their two #2's? Not likely but BB has traded in the division before and I think BP would not care and would go with the attitude of we will take your 2 1st rounders and beat you with our 4 2nd rounders anyways!

But I think this would be about Connor Barwin and being able to pick before their 34th to make sure they get him and get more!

Nublar7
03-15-2009, 04:22 PM
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2009/03/sparano-the-value-of-the-combine.html

I think Multiple picks would be involved. I think trading down could really help to add some quality players. I could see us getting OLB,CB and WR. Miami is said to be eyeing TE so that might be another position we could Address.

Here is something Im willing to bet on Miami does not have a 6th and I can see them trading a guy like Beck to try an aquire that pick.I think trading out of the first round is a strong possibility. Parcells and Ireland would have loved to trade the #1 overall pick last year to acquire more picks, but that top pick is almost untradeable. Of course they are not really complaining now, since they landed a Pro Bowl left tackle, but still, the chance to acquire more picks is something they want.

Why pay one player at #25, when you could use that same money to pay two players from the second round? If we trade our 1st round pick, we would likely land a 2nd round pick and probably a 3rd round pick in the 2010 draft. Of course, if that second round pick is late in the round, it could involve a 2010 1st round pick. Being at #25 is a great spot and a prime trading area in the draft. I honestly think it is 50/50 that we trade that pick.

Roman529
03-15-2009, 04:26 PM
Um, He wont be available at 25 ..... :rolleyes2:


I agree.....I doubt Rey M falls farther than the 20th spot.

FinAtic8480
03-15-2009, 07:42 PM
Rey M has a torn hamstring and character issues according to what have read, he may be there at 25 along with Matthews. Vonta Davis is a guy who can also be their at 25.

TheBow305
03-15-2009, 08:28 PM
If we are truly eyeing guys like Sean Smith, Darius Butler, Clay Matthews, Hakeem Nicks or Kenny Britt at 25, theres no reason to think that some of those guys won't still be available at the beginning or middle of round 2. I'm all for it. Let's stockpile picks this year and next year.

If we can end up with like 3 second rounder and 2 thirds, we can bring in two quality corners like Butler and Smith and still have plenty of picks to address out other weak areas.

The only way I wouldn't consider it, is if some guy ends up falling into our lap. Some very quality players always seem to fall on draft day and if someone like Vontae Davis, Brian Cushing, or Rey Maualuga falls into our lap, we have to take him.

FinAtic8480
03-15-2009, 08:56 PM
I could see us staying if some of the projected big names start to fall, but Sean Smith is projected as a second rounder. Butler could fall to the second round I mean there is even talk not that aguy like Vontae Davis or Alphonso Smith could be there at 25 and I think Miami will use their first pick on CB. They are said to really like Ron Brace and are really scouting DE/OLB. In fact from what I read these are the position Miami seems to be interesed in. LB,,CB,DT,WR,TE and G/T those who know have said dont be surprise if Miami takes another DE.

Ricky4Life
03-15-2009, 08:59 PM
I say they trade down unless someone they really wanted earlier falls into our lap.

foycore79
03-15-2009, 10:20 PM
This would be nice New England having 3 second round picks kinda scares me

jim1
03-15-2009, 10:36 PM
This would be nice New England having 3 second round picks kinda scares me

As it should.

FinAtic8480
03-16-2009, 12:09 AM
They got several players they really like so it would not surprise me one bit. I think they'll manage to trade Satele and Beck and gain more picks. Beck could be bring a 6th or 7th and Satele atleast a 4th or 5th.

tcolli17
03-16-2009, 01:13 AM
This would be nice New England having 3 second round picks kinda scares me
I would trade #25 for the first and last of New England's 2nd round picks.

FinAtic8480
03-16-2009, 01:15 AM
I would trade #25 for the first and last of New England's 2nd round picks.

Um no offense tcolli17, but you donot trade with division rivals. Miami learned the hard way what happens when you do. Remember Wes Welker. Theres plenty of teams that could be interested in trading up from the second round.

dtjp17
03-16-2009, 09:44 AM
we should trade our 25 TO NE FOR THeir 34 AND 48 PICK OR 57 or we can trade 25 to clevland for their two seconed round picks. NE has 3 picks in round two and at this point in the draft their is so much value in the second round well have 4 guys who can come in and start

satz
03-16-2009, 10:00 AM
the market is set by a player and also where the teams can get them. everyone and their granda ma knows that the pats will trade the 34 or 47 picks and it will be cheaper that kinda sets the market too.

FinFrenzy
03-16-2009, 10:31 AM
What would the pick be worth?

25th pick this year for a 2nd and 4th this year and a 1st next year??

I wouldn't trade out of the 1st just for a 2nd and 3rd this year unless it's with the lions since were only sliding down 7 spots or so.

Spray Mucus
03-16-2009, 10:45 AM
Um no offense tcolli17, but you donot trade with division rivals. Miami learned the hard way what happens when you do. Remember Wes Welker. Theres plenty of teams that could be interested in trading up from the second round.

do you also remember who made that trade? If Ireland/Tuna make that trade I'm not asking questions.

As for trading the #25 at all, I think a few factors come into play. If in the scenario of the original poat, then it would come down to there being a run on OT early in the draft or in the middle. We would need the same thing that happen last year in order for teams to want to trade up to get an OT... (Atlanta traded up to the 21st spot to take Sam Baker and I belive Houston traded up to the 26th spot to take Duane Brown... both considered reachs but they had to do that in order to get them)

This years OT class is as deep as last year so if the same scenario we could stand a chance to trade our pick.

burger13
03-16-2009, 11:38 AM
Um no offense tcolli17, but you donot trade with division rivals. Miami learned the hard way what happens when you do. Remember Wes Welker. Theres plenty of teams that could be interested in trading up from the second round.

says who?

Philly traded their 1st rounder to Dallas a couple years ago....neither of those frachises has collapsed yet.

If you want to trade down, and the only suitable offer is from the Jets, Bills or Pats, you take it. If the position you held was so much better than multiple picks, you wouldn't be trying to trade it....so let them have it and take their picks, their loss.

RUDEbyallMEANS
03-16-2009, 11:41 AM
I hear about alot of players dropping, but who's rising to fill those vacant slots??

ckparrothead
03-16-2009, 11:43 AM
I still kind of hope the Dolphins try and acquire more picks in 2010.

FinAtic8480
03-16-2009, 02:10 PM
2010 IS gonna be a very interesting year in Football.

phintim
03-16-2009, 04:08 PM
What is the history of Ireland and Parcells trading down. I have not seen much of it. In fact it has been said Parcells has mentioned about trading up in this draft hopefully he does trade down that is my preference.