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FinAtic8480
03-20-2009, 12:01 AM
Q. It seems like a lot of attention has been devoted to the offensive line in the early part of free agency. Re-signing Vernon Carey. Signing Joe Berger and Jake Grove. Explain the reasoning behind this and is the offensive line now set?

TS: Set? Never. But I think we've done a pretty good job to make a good dent in what we need to do there. When we came here there was no question in our minds that the interiors were an area that we wanted to hit hard. That being said, we're not there at all yet. We still have to go through a draft. We're getting close. I think the line will be improved. They played well at different times last year. But we need consistency.

http://www.miamidolphins.com/dolphindigest/tony_sparano_column.asp

I have been saying OL is still a position of need and it will most likely get targeted in the second day of the Draft. Miami has targeted Phil Loadholt, Herman Johnson, Louis Vasquez and Jason Watkins. This guys are 6-5 plus and over the 315's. Miami is gonna have one of the biggest line in NFL when all is set an done.

Dolfins
03-20-2009, 12:08 AM
The best teams have the best front lines. Will be so nice to hear our name mentioned in the top lines in the NFL.

FinAtic8480
03-20-2009, 12:13 AM
Well I see Miami adding a G/T prospect in this years draft and a guy like Paul Loadhol or Herman Johnson would really help this team.

#1dolphinsfan
03-20-2009, 12:25 AM
i am thinking Duke Robinson is going to fall to us with our 2b pick and we will take him to play RG for us that would be awesome

MDFINFAN
03-20-2009, 12:35 AM
http://www.miamidolphins.com/dolphindigest/tony_sparano_column.asp

I have been saying OL is still a position of need and it will most likely get targeted in the second day of the Draft. Miami has targeted Paul Loadholt, Herman Johnson, Louis Vasquez and Jason Watkins. This guys are 6-5 plus and over the 315's. Miami is gonna have one of the biggest line in NFL when all is set an done.


Great find...thanks for sharing..

MDFINFAN
03-20-2009, 12:37 AM
The best teams have the best front lines. Will be so nice to hear our name mentioned in the top lines in the NFL.

If that happens it's been a long time coming.. I remember arguring about the lact of a Oline back in 2005...while everyone was talking about our skilled players.. To me without that good OLine, all the skill players in the world doesn't matter.

FinAtic8480
03-20-2009, 01:06 AM
Man I have been preaching that the oline is still a need, but I have been getting a bunch of crap from guys saying we are set. Our line right now looks like this:

LT Jake Long, Brandon Frye ( He will be Cut)
LG Justin Smiley, Shawn Murphy ( Will stick if he shwos improve ment)
C Jake Grove, Joe Berger, Samson Satele ( Satele I think will be traded)
RG Thomas, Ndukwe ( had a solid season)
RT Carey, Turner ( More Uncertainty)

I want some of you guys to be honest we have no true back up for Carey or Long, Turner and Shawn Murphy are players we know nothing off, Satele is on the block believe me and Brandon Frye will get cut.

Basically the only depth we have is Berger and Ndukwe. If Satele were to stay he could backup at C, but the thing about Samson is this organization does not see him as the type of OLinemen they like. I think Miami will pickup a G/T in the line and try to bring some UDFA as well.

houtz
03-20-2009, 01:12 AM
We're going to become a more power running team and I can't freaking wait!!! Bring on the draft.

CedarPhin
03-20-2009, 01:15 AM
Herman Johnson or Vasquez from Tech wouldn't be bad.

Since this is pretty much draft talk...I'm going to move it to the draft forum.

FuturePhin
03-20-2009, 01:47 AM
I couldnt agree more! Its about time we started getting this type of oline together.



We're going to become a more power running team and I can't freaking wait!!! Bring on the draft.

skipp2myloo13
03-20-2009, 06:53 AM
i am thinking Duke Robinson is going to fall to us with our 2b pick and we will take him to play RG for us that would be awesome

We have Donald Thomas. no need to waste a pick, that pos is set

3rdandinches
03-20-2009, 07:31 AM
I see two OT`s taken in the later rounds but if some top talent really fell then maybe someone earlier. I`d be pretty surprised that the starters aren`t set he has to mean the backups.

If we happen to take a CB 1st then we still need an OLB or two, an ILB, a WR and probably another CB.

madridfinfan
03-20-2009, 08:17 AM
what about alleman?

emeraldfin
03-20-2009, 08:39 AM
Ideally the Fins can pick up a player who can play both Guard and Tackle. Fenuki Tupou is a guy I would have liked to have seen on the list mentioned.

Digital
03-20-2009, 08:59 AM
I still say Kraig Urbik in round 3 if he is still available. He is 6'5, 330 lbs., strong, nasty drive blocker. The only reason he will slip to the 3rd is because he's not quick, but he is one heck of a phone booth operator.

FinAtic8480
03-20-2009, 10:23 AM
I hear alot of people mention Urbik. Ill be on the look out to see if Miami has shown interest, but so far nothing.

As for the person who mentioned Alleman, Alleman sucked last year when plugged in he was man handled against Baltimore and was practicly their *****, I think he will be replaced.

Avigatorx
03-20-2009, 10:44 AM
Our O-line looks like an ER.

If you guys think we are trading Samson, then we are getting a Center in the draft. There is no way Sparano takes us into September with Grove as our starter and Berger as his back-up.

WAY too much injury risk (Grove) and inexperience (Berger) at C.

Smiley, Thomas and Murphy....are you guys really banking on them playing 16 games? Even if they do, are you certain that Thomas and Murphy can cut it?

Not to mention, I'd like to see us find a RT that doesnt take plays off.

So yea, IMO, the O-line is far from done.

I think ALOT of people are going to be disappointed with this draft. Too many people are hoping for a WR or early round CB.

Most of our picks will be O-line, I'd be shocked not to see a NT, and of course, the obligatory linebacker.

Dolphin Dave
03-20-2009, 01:36 PM
We have Donald Thomas. no need to waste a pick, that pos is set

Are you willing to stake your entire season on that? In 2007 we came out of camp with a 6th rd pick (199) starting at guard named Drew Mormino. Who then subsiquently went on IR with a torn labrum. (coincedentally the same injury that Satele played through in '08 and now every one wants to get rid of. I guess he should have just gone on IR so everyone would have him locked in as our starter next year.:oops:)

Mormino got cut and we drafted Donald Thomas in the 6th rd (195) who spent the season on IR with a foot injury. How can anyone realistically be 100% sure that he is really the greatest thing since sliced bread and that the position is set? How can we be sure he is not going to end up getting cut like Mormino?

I dont believe that Satele is going anywhere. He showed the kind of toughness that Parcells is famed for loving and he has had the injured shoulder repaired already. He and Grove will compete for the starters job and the other will provide us with the one thing we didn't have last year..quality depth.

I also believe that there remains enough doubt at the guard spot that we will draft at least another one in the middle rounds to compete in camp and provide depth.