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zach8111
03-24-2009, 05:16 PM
Which do you like better?

Mock 1

1. Clay Matthews, OLB USC
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Would provide more of a pass rush from the SOLB opposite of Porter. Very versatile and very athletic.

2. Ron Bace, NT BC
Big NT who would eventually be our starter.

2. Jairus Byrd, CB Ore
Very talented CB and one of the top ones of the 2nd tier of CBs.

3. Ramses Barden, WR Cal Poly-SLO
2009 season isnt a huge need for WR because the way Pennington plays and check down, the speedy, shifty guys like Camerillo and Bess fit really god, but 2010 is when Henne is rumored to be taking over and he has a cannon and needs more down the field and redzone options. Barden has great size, speed and hands. Small school brings his stock down, but he is starting to get noticed after his proday.

4. Jasper Brinkley, ILB SC
Jasper Brinkley has skill to eventually become a very good ILB. His stock is down because of his knee injury he had in college. Before his injury, he was playing at a very high level. The 4th round is good value for Brinkley.

5. DeAngelo Smith, CB Cincinnati
Very underrated playing besided Mikens. They made a good CB tandem at Cinncinati. He has better size and his 40 time brought his stock down. IMO he has more value where he is at than Mickens and probably will become just as good or even better than Mickens in the NFL. He is worth adding depth to our secondary.
6. Lydon Murtha, OT Nebraska
Good OT depth. he is very athletic too. Can have too many athletes. I dont know how much this means but it is notworthy to say he was the only OT to sub 5.0 40 time at the combine, he ran a 4.85.. not bad

7. Antone Smith, RB Florida State
Smith probably was on the verge of going undrafted but with a 40 of 4.33, 31 reps on the bench press, a 32-inch vertical and a 10-2 broad jump, Antone Smith definitely put himself on the radar.And this is all from a smaller RB... could be a viable otion as a change of pace and another checkdown for Pennington.
7. Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse



Mock 2

1. Darius Butler, CB UCONN
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The best well rounded CB in the draft IMO, Jenkins most likely will be FS and with the Character issues and questions about Davis' intangibles could make Darius Butler be drafted higher than you would expect.

2. Clint Sintim, SOLB UVA
Great Pass rusher, very versatile and could play ILB if needed but I wouls slot him in at SOLB. great value here as the deep LB class makes him fall right in our lap.

2. Max Unger, OG/C Oregon
With Satele being trade for only a 6th we now need depth at Center who could possibly become the starter. Also can be very effective as an OG if needed. Centers dont usually get drafted very high and Alex Mack is in this draft which is the only reason he will fall here, also Caldwell from Alabama could be an option to go here or even before Unger.

3. Ramses Barden, WR Cal Poly-SLO
2009 season isnt a huge need for WR because the way Pennington plays and check down, the speedy, shifty guys like Camerillo and Bess fit really god, but 2010 is when Henne is rumored to be taking over and he has a cannon and needs more down the field and redzone options. Barden has great size, speed and hands. Small school brings his stock down, but he is starting to get noticed after his proday.

4. Jasper Brinkley, ILB SC
Jasper Brinkley has skill to eventually become a very good ILB. His stock is down because of his knee injury he had in college. Before his injury, he was playing at a very high level. The 4th round is good value for Brinkley.

5. Terrance Knighton, NT Temple Big NT who played well on a smaller school. Can add depth and decent rotation with the other guys on our roster, especially since its hard to find guys of his size with good talent.

6. Lydon Murtha, OT Nebraska
Good OT depth. he is very athletic too. Can have too many athletes. I dont know how much this means but it is notworthy to say he was the only OT to sub 5.0 40 time at the combine, he ran a 4.85.. not bad

7. Brice McCain, CB Utah
Some CB depth. Had a decent season with Utah and played on there good secondary with Sean Smith. His 40 time of 4.33 has got people noticing him.

7. Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse
We are gonna be forcus on running the ball and we could use a big run block FB.

X-Pacolypse
03-24-2009, 05:19 PM
Mock #2

ticophin
03-24-2009, 05:26 PM
I like both, although I would choose a better CB with the 1st 2nd, ala Sean Smith or Butler, and play my chances that Brace is there with our 2nd 2...

jim1
03-24-2009, 05:30 PM
#2

skipp2myloo13
03-24-2009, 05:32 PM
gimme the second

JC
03-24-2009, 05:41 PM
number two.

With Sparano coming saying we need more pass rush I think the first 3 picks could be OLB/CB/NT or OLB/CB/WR

#1dolphinsfan
03-24-2009, 05:49 PM
#2

Quadfather
03-24-2009, 05:57 PM
If we really had your second, with ramses barden, and jasper brinkley as mid round picks, along with your first three, I would die and go to heaven.

cyesae
03-24-2009, 07:52 PM
If we really had your second, with ramses barden, and jasper brinkley as mid round picks, along with your first three, I would die and go to heaven.
i dont know if thats good or bad but i like the 2nd

fishypete
03-24-2009, 10:59 PM
Two...by a nose.

DcRy82
03-24-2009, 11:26 PM
I agree with everyone else. I really like Butler and i dont think Sintim would be much of a drop off (if any) from Mathews.

TheBow305
03-25-2009, 02:10 AM
Easily # 2 for me. It is imperative that we address the corner position with one of our first 2 picks. And Sintim is just as good as Matthews, if not better. And although we just signed Grove, I would still love to get one of the centers from this draft, which is such a great class this year.

JohnBeckHOF
03-25-2009, 02:15 AM
Austin Collie needs to be drafted.

MrClean
03-25-2009, 04:13 AM
I'd rather have Byrd for the corner, but Sintim for LB. I prefer Unger to add quality depth to the OL. So I like aspects of each draft. Byrd is the best run support corner in the draft. That is a characteristic Parcells values highly in a corner.
Put Byrd at 25 and the 2nd scenario would be perfect to me.

skipp2myloo13
03-25-2009, 06:54 AM
I'd rather have Byrd for the corner, but Sintim for LB. I prefer Unger to add quality depth to the OL. So I like aspects of each draft. Byrd is the best run support corner in the draft. That is a characteristic Parcells values highly in a corner.
Put Byrd at 25 and the 2nd scenario would be perfect to me.

bahahaah, Byrd at 25?!?!?! Why dont you go and sit the next few rounds out.

MexDolfan
03-25-2009, 08:20 AM
I prefer your first mock.

Bleedin_Phins
03-25-2009, 10:13 AM
#2

MrClean
03-25-2009, 01:46 PM
bahahaah, Byrd at 25?!?!?! Why dont you go and sit the next few rounds out.

Thanks for your intelligent response. Apparently you know nothing about Jairus Byrd.

skipp2myloo13
03-25-2009, 06:12 PM
Thanks for your intelligent response. Apparently you know nothing about Jairus Byrd.

i know you have him at 2b in your (and most everyone elses) mock, but for some reason you want him with 25 now. Get out of him pants, man.

albyfinfan
03-25-2009, 08:20 PM
gimme #2 please

zach8111
03-25-2009, 08:29 PM
i know you have him at 2b in your (and most everyone elses) mock, but for some reason you want him with 25 now. Get out of him pants, man.

i agree, if you think he will be there at 2b WHY take him #25 overall?
he is NOT a first round guy and butler is far better CB

MrClean
03-26-2009, 01:04 AM
i agree, if you think he will be there at 2b WHY take him #25 overall?
he is NOT a first round guy and butler is far better CB

I'd love for him to be there at 2b, that's a lot of what a mock draft is about. A lot of it is wishful thinking. If I really had to address the corner position in the first round, and I had to make a choice between Butler and Byrd, I'd take Byrd. Neither mock draft scenario was ideal to me. IMO, Byrd will go earlier than most fans now expect he will. Since he hasn't worked out for NFL teams yet, no one in the media is talking about him, hence few fans are thinking about him. After he does his pro day, and if he does well, his value on draft day will go up. As long as his groin is healed, he should do well in his workout. That's not what it is all about though. Just watch him play. He has as good of ball skills as any corner in this draft not named Alphonso Smith. He is bigger and more physical than A Smith though, and is the best run support corner in this draft and that is a trait that Parcells considers very highly.
I guess I will move him up. You make a good point. If I don't really think the odds are decent he will be there at 2b I should not have him there in any mock draft

bigchub22
03-26-2009, 01:59 AM
i will be the outcast i like 1