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Lappy
06-11-2009, 04:09 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4250596&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines




Alabama could be forced to vacate as many as 21 football wins that came under the watch of former coach Mike Shula and current coach Nick Saban, sources at the university told ESPN.com's Mark Schlabach. Citing a source, the Birmingham News reported the number of victories to be at least 10.

BobDole
06-11-2009, 04:21 PM
heard about this earlier today. sucks for them it's over freakin textbooks.

Namor
06-11-2009, 04:48 PM
Nick had nothing to do with it.It was all on that idiot Shula.
Nick suspended the players (only 7 football players were involved)
once he found out.
Mostly track and field people.

So tell me,how is Nick at it again?

#42warfieldman
06-11-2009, 05:37 PM
Nick had nothing to do with it.It was all on that idiot Shula.
Nick suspended the players (only 7 football players were involved)
once he found out.
Mostly track and field people.

So tell me,how is Nick at it again?
you're right,its not nicks fault!

t2thejz
06-11-2009, 06:20 PM
Yup...most of this does not even involve the football team...but as soon as Saban found out he suspended the players, part of the reason for the late season collapse in Saban's first season here.

finataxia24
06-11-2009, 06:41 PM
we will be just fine


http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/06/large_Julio20UGA20AP20ALcom-1.jpg

finataxia24
06-11-2009, 06:54 PM
CECIL HURT: Yes, sometimes there's some truth to rumors



Not to start any rumors, but University of Alabama head football coach Nick Saban was spotted on the campus at Southern Cal on Tuesday.


http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20090610/NEWS/906099912/1067/NEWS?Title=CECIL-HURT-Yes-sometimes-there-s-some-truth-to-rumors

Vaark
06-12-2009, 12:11 PM
For Satan, it's a dose of delayed karmic payback for being a professional liar and whore.:chuckle:

(hey Namor, you had to know my poor impulse control couldn't keep me away of this thread, eh? :lol:)

Namor
06-12-2009, 12:26 PM
I appreciate it, my good buddy.

Namor
06-12-2009, 12:40 PM
What this has done,is set the stage for Nick to become even more powerfull at Alabama.
In the next few months A.D. Mal Moore will retire...removing another of the last remaining "Bear's Boys".
The next A.D. will be of Nick's say so..Dr. Witt will ask Saban to approve him.
It will be Ozzie Newsome.

t2thejz
06-12-2009, 05:44 PM
I thought the next AD was already in line....I think his name is Mike Hart or something. Brought him over from FSU, he is a bama alum.

Namor
06-14-2009, 11:21 PM
I thought the next AD was already in line....I think his name is Mike Hart or something. Brought him over from FSU, he is a bama alum.

Nah...Dave Hart was brought in to help straighten out the basketball
program.
Fire Mark Gottfried and hire a new coach.
Dave Hart has to much dirty laundry from his FSU tenure to get the
regular A.D.
Make no mistake about, Nick has a say in ALL athletics at Bama.

JCane
06-14-2009, 11:55 PM
Nick had nothing to do with any of this. It was reported that all of the infractions were clearly under Shula. Stop with the Saban hate. Yeah, he bolted from Miami, but it was in his best interest, his families best interest, and in the best interest of the Dolphins. Every single one of us take jobs that benefit us and our family. There's a reason when I'm sending out resumes and interviewing with other employers I specifically request that I don't want them contacting my current employer. I'm covering my ***.

I can't blame Nick Saban for doing what he did at all. You shouldn't either. Football is a business first, a sport second, entertainment third.

t2thejz
06-15-2009, 12:08 PM
Nah...Dave Hart was brought in to help straighten out the basketball
program.
Fire Mark Gottfried and hire a new coach.
Dave Hart has to much dirty laundry from his FSU tenure to get the
regular A.D.
Make no mistake about, Nick has a say in ALL athletics at Bama.

oh ok...boy Hart sure is making a good chunk of change for that. I would love to pull Ozzie in as a AD...he still LOVES this school. I don't know if that is going to happen though.

Namor
06-15-2009, 02:25 PM
oh ok...boy Hart sure is making a good chunk of change for that. I would love to pull Ozzie in as a AD...he still LOVES this school. I don't know if that is going to happen though.

Remember Ozzie and Nick were at Cleveland together.
It was Ozzie who was the go between Mal and Nick's agent Jimmy
Sexton. He laid the groundwork for Nick leaving Miami to
go to Bama.Ozzie has alot of pull in the NFL and Bama.

Namor
06-15-2009, 02:34 PM
oh ok...boy Hart sure is making a good chunk of change for that. I would love to pull Ozzie in as a AD...he still LOVES this school. I don't know if that is going to happen though.

Hey...I just noticed your location..Are you a student?
I graduated the Capstone in 87...yes I'm old.

t2thejz
06-16-2009, 08:43 PM
Sure am....going into my senior year, fixing to graduate in May. Contemplating grad school. It's too much fun being a student here not to think about extending my stay! Roll Tide!

Yea I've been hearing about Ozzie as a potential candidate, I believe he would be great at the job, he has been great at everything he has done in his life. We'll see...what is your opinion on Mal, he seems to catch a lot of heat from fans, and while there has been some probelsm during his tenure, he has done too many great things for the athletics for me not to respect him.

Namor
06-16-2009, 09:51 PM
Sure am....going into my senior year, fixing to graduate in May. Contemplating grad school. It's too much fun being a student here not to think about extending my stay! Roll Tide!

Yea I've been hearing about Ozzie as a potential candidate, I believe he would be great at the job, he has been great at everything he has done in his life. We'll see...what is your opinion on Mal, he seems to catch a lot of heat from fans, and while there has been some probelsm during his tenure, he has done too many great things for the athletics for me not to respect him.

I love Mal,...I think he is a good man and great at raising money.,but he
has been in over his head as a A.D. in todays environment.
Paul Bryant Jr. is the only reason Mal hasn't been fired over the years.
Mal's tenure,other than hiring Saban and the expansion to Bryant-Denny
Stadium,has been rather rough...(3) trips in front of the NCAA,the hiring/
failures of Dennis Francioine,my God,Mike Price..GOOD GRIEF..and the mishandling of Mike Shula...(This was mostly Shula's fault,but still on
Mal's watch) and Rich Rod turning us down.
I hate to say it but Mal needs to fall on the sword for Alabama.
It would look good to the NCAA as us cleaning up our act.
It's just time.
But hey,we'll be okay.....Roll Tide Roll.
Good luck at school.

milldog
06-16-2009, 09:56 PM
we will be just fine


http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/06/large_Julio20UGA20AP20ALcom-1.jpg

You'll never be fine when you have all your trust in garbage! Nick Sban sucks BALLS!!! Must be tough being a Tide fan as well as a Dolphin fan, I hope! I have 0% respect for the douchebag!

Namor
06-17-2009, 10:30 AM
You'll never be fine when you have all your trust in garbage! Nick Sban sucks BALLS!!! Must be tough being a Tide fan as well as a Dolphin fan, I hope! I have 0% respect for the douchebag!

LOL ...classic jilted girlfriend syndrome....grow a pair and learn why Nick
left.
We had a idiot for a owner....Search out the facts or follow the local
masses like a sheep.
It won't change the facts.

milldog
06-17-2009, 11:13 AM
He left cause he can't coach in the NFL...fact
He left LSU for greener pastures, left Miami cause he could not win here...fact
Will leave you soon enough and he'll be at the top of your hate list...fact
No it won't change the facts, he's a bum!
"grow a pair"..mmm good one, dale!

Namor
06-17-2009, 11:45 AM
This is a old post of mine.
What Wayne did to Miami compared to Saban.

Hmmm...
Wayne H. runs off Don Shula.
Wayne H.hires the real Satan (Pork Chop Face J.J.)..no matter how
you feel about Nick,he will never be the prick Jimmy Johnson was.
JJ's hire was done behind Don 's back.
Wayne H allows J.J to bring in Dave Wann. (Brilliant!!!)
Wayne H allows Dave to run off Marino,because his coaching legacy in
Chicago is still revered to this day.
Wayne keeps Dave around how years to long? because Dave was such
a great coach and GM.
Finally a ray of hope...Nick Saban is hired.
Nick is supposed to have total control of football operations.
This really isn't the true case since people around Wayne advised him to
"Help" Saban out after giving to much control to Wanny.
Wayne steered certain high profile coaches to be hired for their
experiance.
With Saban's ego,do you think he wanted a Harris or Dom Capers there,
or Muschamp who had been with him for years.
Muschamp wasn't allowed to be DC because of no NFL experiance.
Then Wayne cuts Nick's legs out from under him on the Drew Brees deal.
Alabama contacts Jimmy Sexton who now knows Saban wants out of Miami and into a high profile college job.
Sexton knows Wayne is guilty of breach of contract,so all systems are go.
The deal is done,just wait for the season to be over.
It's leaked to the media...the darlings everybody loves.
So instead of saying he is bailing out before the year is over and
really screwing Miami's year up,Nick lies to the media....poor media...
they're such just people.
Could Nick have handled it better? You Bet'cha.
I guess as Nick was heading out the door he told Wayne to hire Cam. C.
Cam was Nick's fault also,according to you guys.
Saban was here for TWO years.
How long has Wayne been screwing Miami.
If Parcells didn't live in Florida,Wayne would still be screwing us
Look what he did with the Marlins...Look at his track record.
He hasn't been as hands off as you want to believe.
After all this Saban is the scumbag ,but Wayne loves the Dolphins.
Get real.....

Other than the press conferance that he said he would not be Alabama's
coach(What was he supposed to say,DURING the season?)what in Nick's
career has he done to suggest that he is garabage.

t2thejz
06-17-2009, 11:49 AM
He has not left yet, and has done a hell of a job here, anyone with half a mind can see that he is at least here for a couple more years. I am sure that this will be his last coaching job. Where else would he go? If he left tomorrow Bama is in much better shape than when he first arrived. We could debate all day as to why he left Miami but that fact is we are going into our third season since he left and Miami is looking good so why so bitter?

Lorenzo Rules
06-17-2009, 12:27 PM
I hate to burts some peoples bubble but it wasnt Shula's falt he has been gone for quite some time Saban isnt a saint but i do like Alabama and i think the ncaa needs to focus on the real cheaters hint Usc

Namor
06-17-2009, 01:05 PM
I hate to burts some peoples bubble but it wasnt Shula's falt he has been gone for quite some time Saban isnt a saint but i do like Alabama and i think the ncaa needs to focus on the real cheaters hint Usc

PLEASE....PLEASE ...Explain how it wasn't Shula's fault.He was the coach
at the time of the infractions. Please burst my bubble on the goings on at Bama.

JCane
06-17-2009, 09:00 PM
I hate to burts some peoples bubble but it wasnt Shula's falt he has been gone for quite some time Saban isnt a saint but i do like Alabama and i think the ncaa needs to focus on the real cheaters hint Usc

These "real" cheaters you speak of are every major NCAA program in the land. Every single one. It's not only USC; although I'm conviced that USC cheats a great deal less than everyone else. Yeah, they get all the top recruits in the country, etc. But how hard is it to sell some 18 year-old kid on the weather in Southern California, private school with great education, Los Angeles, beaches, winning football tradition, and pretty bombshell blondes in bikinis? It ain't hard. You don't have to throw cash at a kid to get him into USC.

You're offered a job in Los Angeles or Blacksburg, Virginia. Basically the same job only there's greater potential for higher earnings in your prime years in Los Angeles. I know where I'm going and the company in Blacksburg is going to have to offer me a great deal more in the perks department to get me to take a job in that location and deal with their farm chicks and ****ty winters.

Namor
06-17-2009, 09:24 PM
These "real" cheaters you speak of are every major NCAA program in the land. Every single one. It's not only USC; although I'm conviced that USC cheats a great deal less than everyone else. Yeah, they get all the top recruits in the country, etc. But how hard is it to sell some 18 year-old kid on the weather in Southern California, private school with great education, Los Angeles, beaches, winning football tradition, and pretty bombshell blondes in bikinis? It ain't hard. You don't have to throw cash at a kid to get him into USC.

You're offered a job in Los Angeles or Blacksburg, Virginia. Basically the same job only there's greater potential for higher earnings in your prime years in Los Angeles. I know where I'm going and the company in Blacksburg is going to have to offer me a great deal more in the perks department to get me to take a job in that location and deal with their farm chicks and ****ty winters.

I wish other posters were as open-minded and able to see the big picture
as you are.
The sad thing about college programs is that it's usally...some dumb***
booster or super-rich alumni that the university really can't control
sometimes that gets the program in trouble..or a sleazy agent.
That's what bothers me about USC..They have a open door policy
towards agents and such.
For christs sake they allow them at practices.
That's a major problem waiting to happen.

JCane
06-17-2009, 11:50 PM
I wish other posters were as open-minded and able to see the big picture
as you are.
The sad thing about college programs is that it's usally...some dumb***
booster or super-rich alumni that the university really can't control
sometimes that gets the program in trouble..or a sleazy agent.
That's what bothers me about USC..They have a open door policy
towards agents and such.
For christs sake they allow them at practices.
That's a major problem waiting to happen.

At Miami, Randy is usually pretty hard-nosed about boosters, etc., getting into practices. He doesn't allow media to watch practices or anything. The South Florida media gets their information about the Hurricanes the same way I get my information about practice: They know someone on the inside willing to chat a little bit—but not too much—about practice.

Cheating in college football WILL happen at every program because there's just no way to really prevent it. You and I both know it. You're inside the Alabama program to an extent; I'm inside the Miami program to an extent. We've both seen and heard the things that go on. God knows I've heard the stories of Luther Campbell in the Miami locker room minutes before kickoff holding up a fist full of cash for any player(s) ready to lay some vicious hits on the opposition.

Coaches are concerned with coaching. They discuss a few things here and there with alumni and boosters but they can't follow these guys around and listen in on every conversation when a booster might pull some 18 year-old kid aside and show him some things he's never seen before; especially in Miami where we have a large number of inner city minority kids who are heavily recruited out of high school.

My open-mindedness stems from my appreciation of success. In the world of college football, it would be hard for me to argue against Nick Saban as the best in the business. I don't feel a bit differently about Nick Saban today than I did when he coached LSU to the title in 2003 against Oklahoma. Yeah, I don't like how he said he wasn't going to coach Alabama but I understand why he did. This is a business and Nick Saban is no different than the person I am. He has a job, he has a family, he has bills to pay, he has to do what he can to be happy in life and do what's best for his family. If he isn't happy coaching in the NFL, why would I want Nick to stay in Miami? It's baffling for me when I listen to how some continue to kill the man for making a decision based on his best interest. Same thing goes for Packer fan hating on Brett Favre. Vince Lombardi left Green Bay to coach washington! Get over it!

NorthFloridaFin
06-24-2009, 02:45 PM
Yup...most of this does not even involve the football team...but as soon as Saban found out he suspended the players, part of the reason for the late season collapse in Saban's first season here.

Yeah, as soon as Bobby Bowden found out about the players that cheated on the on-line tese he suspended them also, but they are still going to take 14 wins away from him. If I didn't know any better I would swear there has got to be a Penn State fan on the NCAA board that made that decision.

Dolfan3773
06-25-2009, 09:03 PM
I'm a Canes fan and I dont like Bama but man I think Julio Jones is a bad ***...I would watch Bama games last year just to see that kid play

JCane
06-25-2009, 11:21 PM
I'm a Canes fan and I dont like Bama but man I think Julio Jones is a bad ***...I would watch Bama games last year just to see that kid play

Julio is the real deal. Legit kid. But I'm still keeping my eyes on my boy, Rueben Randle at LSU. Kid is no joke. I wish we could have gotten him to Miami. What a cluster**** that was.

Namor
06-26-2009, 01:16 PM
I think Julio is the next T.O without the baggage....but I'm alittle biased.

TedSlimmJr
06-26-2009, 01:51 PM
I compare Julio Jones as the next Herman Moore.....who was a GREAT receiver for the Detriot Lions.....

They're identical in every sense of the word if you ask me....I don't think Julio has quite TO's explosiveness or top end speed...

VT Dolphan
07-05-2009, 10:36 PM
These "real" cheaters you speak of are every major NCAA program in the land. Every single one. It's not only USC; although I'm conviced that USC cheats a great deal less than everyone else. Yeah, they get all the top recruits in the country, etc. But how hard is it to sell some 18 year-old kid on the weather in Southern California, private school with great education, Los Angeles, beaches, winning football tradition, and pretty bombshell blondes in bikinis? It ain't hard. You don't have to throw cash at a kid to get him into USC.

You're offered a job in Los Angeles or Blacksburg, Virginia. Basically the same job only there's greater potential for higher earnings in your prime years in Los Angeles. I know where I'm going and the company in Blacksburg is going to have to offer me a great deal more in the perks department to get me to take a job in that location and deal with their farm chicks and ****ty winters.


Low-blow. :lol:

Campus is beautiful year round. I'd gladly swap the girls for some from southern cali though.

JCane
07-06-2009, 12:00 AM
Low-blow. :lol:

Campus is beautiful year round. I'd gladly swap the girls for some from southern cali though.

I must say that I am really looking forward to making the trip to Blacksburg this season. It's one of the few ACC schools I haven't seen. Only Virginia Tech, Maryland, and Boston College are left on my list.

VT Dolphan
07-06-2009, 11:48 AM
I must say that I am really looking forward to making the trip to Blacksburg this season. It's one of the few ACC schools I haven't seen. Only Virginia Tech, Maryland, and Boston College are left on my list.

You should really enjoy it. Lane stadium isn't one of the biggest stadiums in the country, but it definitely gets to be one of the loudest. And while it may not be nearly as classic as OSU's dotting the 'i", or other pre-game rituals, seeing the entire stadium jump up and down to "enter sandman" as the team takes the field is a rush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NRzMCOP2XI