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poornate
07-29-2009, 07:38 PM
I got roped into DJ-ing a "Take Back the Neighborhood" function for the city... it's a long story.... The problem is that i am not really down with what is on the street (yes-Pun intended).... I need 5 hours of urban music and have no idea where to begin.... I can rock a college party, I can run rock music all night... neither of those abilities help me DJ appropriate music for an urban block party... Anybody want to help me gain some knowledge on what i need to find that is "Right-Now" popular for 14-21 year olds in the urban/R&B/Rap/Hip-Hop genres? I am really nervous about doing this because i am not in touch with this music and the function is in 6 days...

FinFrenzy
07-29-2009, 07:49 PM
I know I'm not the one to hand you tunes, I'm still stuck in my era....I would be sweating bullets if I were you. Not trying to make you any more nervous.

You can look here: http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/charts/hot-100

I would stay away from non top hits since some will be happy and some won't...and just play top songs of the last 7 years 14-21. Depending how long it is.

poornate
07-29-2009, 07:57 PM
I know I can hit a list... but I don't know enough about any of it to say... "Oh, that's a great track" or... "That's what will please the crowd."... I run the risk of playing Outkast and Beastie Boys all night, which will be a total failure... I need insider info mehn!!!

Bumpus
07-29-2009, 07:59 PM
I find that liberal doses of Barry Manilow are usually sufficient in these types of situations.

poornate
07-29-2009, 08:03 PM
...thanks... I'll just kill myself now before the crowd gets a chance to...

GoonBoss
07-29-2009, 08:28 PM
I suggest Robert Earl Keen.

The kids dig it.

GoonBoss
07-29-2009, 08:37 PM
May I also suggest.....

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

David Allen Coe....Keepin it real, yo.

BTW...He made a cameo on "Squidbillies" which if you haven't seen it is hilarious.

poornate
07-29-2009, 08:52 PM
um...again, no.... (BTW, I love Squidbillies... it's like looking at some of my former neighbors lives, only where they can't talk back to me... so is that DACoe picture... best to just observe and not have to interact)

canesandbhoys
07-29-2009, 11:21 PM
iTunes can be very helpful in finding popular music. Look for the most popular songs by the following artists. A few I would suggest that would, for the most part, work for a young audience:

Kid Cudi
Asher Roth
Drake
Akon
Busta Rhymes
Keri Hilson
Wale (edit: Noticing you are in N. Virginia, the closer you are to D.C., the better with this one)
Lloyd
Lil Wayne
Kanye West
The Dream
Ciara
Gucci Mane

Some others on the list of Top Songs on iTunes:
Black Eyed Peas
Sean Kingston
Lady Gaga
Flo Rida
Jay-Z (song - D.O.A.)
Eminem (song - Beautiful)
Dorrough (song- Ice Cream Paint Job)

And you could/should probably throw some MJ in there, as his music is quickly becoming popular again.

If you need more help with specific songs or more artists, get back to me. I would be glad to give you some help.

GoonBoss
07-29-2009, 11:27 PM
iTunes can be very helpful in finding popular music. Look for theSeriously, a few I would suggest that would, for the most part, work for a young audience:

Kid Cudi
Asher Roth
Drake
Akon
Busta Rhymes
Keri Hilson
Wale (edit: Noticing you are in N. Virginia, the closer you are to D.C., the better with this one)
Lloyd
Lil Wayne
Kanye West
The Dream
Ciara
Gucci Mane

Some others on the list of Top Songs on iTunes:
Black Eyed Peas
Sean Kingston
Lady Gaga
Flo Rida
Jay-Z (song - D.O.A.)
Eminem (song - Beautiful)
Dorrough (song- Ice Cream Paint Job)

And you could/should probably throw some MJ in there, as his music is quickly becoming popular again.

If you need more help with specific songs or more artists, get back to me.


Boooo..No fair being serious.

canesandbhoys
07-29-2009, 11:29 PM
Boooo..No fair being serious.

I figured I would help him before he becomes a danger to himself...

Finfang
07-29-2009, 11:36 PM
Do the '80's. It works every time!

GoonBoss
07-29-2009, 11:40 PM
I figured I would help him before he becomes a danger to himself...

Nate is a smart guy and more than capable of figgureing out what to play for an urban audience.

I feel fairly confident I could do the same thing, and, I am a three chord rock/Folk/AltCountry person. I think any audience will appreciate a mix of modern, mainstream tunes focused to the demo that may vary one ay or another, with a drop in of classics...In this case some Run DMC, Sugar Hill Gang, MJ, etc....

Nate's fine. I figgure he was requesting a ball busting :D

canesandbhoys
07-29-2009, 11:59 PM
Nate is a smart guy and more than capable of figgureing out what to play for an urban audience.

I feel fairly confident I could do the same thing, and, I am a three chord rock/Folk/AltCountry person. I think any audience will appreciate a mix of modern, mainstream tunes focused to the demo that may vary one ay or another, with a drop in of classics...In this case some Run DMC, Sugar Hill Gang, MJ, etc....

Nate's fine. I figgure he was requesting a ball busting :D

Gotta add House of Pain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMxQplc3avU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwQbPgouUYo

canesandbhoys
07-30-2009, 12:02 AM
Plus, the fact that he asked means he probably needs at least SOME help. So I'll give him some and let him pick and choose.

GoonBoss
07-30-2009, 12:12 AM
Do the '80's. It works every time!

We have one of those radio stations that is non DJ stations and they play heavy 80s. I hate being old.

GoonBoss
07-30-2009, 12:16 AM
Plus, the fact that he asked means he probably needs at least SOME help. So I'll give him some and let him pick and choose.

You're a good man. I was sort of expecting to see him on the news shortly. :lol:

GoonBoss
07-30-2009, 12:19 AM
Gotta add House of Pain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMxQplc3avU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwQbPgouUYo

I never figgured House Of Pain transitioned to black audiences. Maybe that's a perception of mine....Nobody had any respect for the lead when he was Everlast.....House of Pain did some good work. They are the first group that ever made me "Get" rap.

Finfang
07-30-2009, 12:27 AM
Not my thing of course but if you are looking to put broads on the dance floor Nate. You can not go wrong with anything from the Gap Band or Kool And The Gang or even Zapp. :chuckle:

Finfang
07-30-2009, 12:34 AM
Damn glad I met Roger Troutman once. Shook his hand we discussed music. Disagreed of course.

That guy was an innovator if I ever met one.

GoonBoss
07-30-2009, 12:47 AM
Not my thing of course but if you are looking to put broads on the dance floor Nate. You can not go wrong with anything from the Gap Band or Kool And The Gang or even Zapp. :chuckle:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEMxYggoKQ

Always a hit.....though I was sick of it by sixth grade....

I'm sure people that haven't heard it a gazzilion times a day will like it.

fishfanfromjerz
07-30-2009, 01:31 AM
you can never go wrong with 2 Live Crew.......maybe a little "me so horny" followed by "pop that coochie" (or, "pop that pu##y", for those who listen to the original tracks)

poornate
07-30-2009, 07:13 AM
...Okay... sleeping interfered with me responding...boo...

I am fine in the classics department (Gap Band, etc....even though I am not sure I will be going there), and good in the older hip-hop/Rap stuff... It is what canesandbulls provided that I need...

Like Gucci Mane? I would have skipped DL that in a heartbeat because of the stupid name... I've got Kanye West and "old" Bustah Rhymes... but that's about it... I'm out of the loop, so those song titles at the bottom? Solid gold... I'll be seeking those out... (If you go to I-Tunes w/ little or no current genre knowledge you spend a lot of time looking at Jordin Sparks,etc. and wondering...)

FinFrenzy
07-30-2009, 07:51 AM
We have one of those radio stations that is non DJ stations and they play heavy 80s. I hate being old.



You caught yourself singing along to the music at the grocery store didn't ya???

GoonBoss
07-30-2009, 02:41 PM
You caught yourself singing along to the music at the grocery store didn't ya???

Actually, when I was out walking. I knew every word to every single song:tumbleweed:

SpurzN703
07-30-2009, 02:59 PM
Where are you DJing Nate?

Bumpus
07-31-2009, 12:46 AM
I'm telling ya ... Manilow ... It's gold!

poornate
07-31-2009, 09:53 AM
Manilow... never gold... It's outside of DC... I've never been to the neighborhood... It's called Friendship Heights... they said to expect a few hundred people...

SpurzN703
07-31-2009, 10:10 AM
Friendship heights. I'd play a ton of rap if I were you

Tetragrammaton
07-31-2009, 12:01 PM
Do the kids still do the twist?

Chubby
07-31-2009, 12:37 PM
Nate,

I am sory I didnt see this earlier bud, or I would have helped sooner.

I see that Flo Rida was already mentioned, but my teenage cousins seem to be really jamming out to him and AKON.

Here is a suggestion: Go to the 99 jams website and look at their last songs played list, Hell Ill do it for you one sec........

Here you go bud, this is as urban as you can get:

http://wedr.com/lsp/index.html

HALO
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poornate
07-31-2009, 01:04 PM
Friendship heights. I'd play a ton of rap if I were you

That's what the Po-Po told me... See, I can look at lists, but the names don't mean much to me... I see Beyonce and I don't think kids... I think 40yo woman... I appreciate the help I have gotten here so far... I got some Flo Rida, am looking for Drake, etc...

GoonBoss
07-31-2009, 01:11 PM
Freindship Heights.......

Do you have body armor?

SpurzN703
07-31-2009, 01:42 PM
That's what the Po-Po told me... See, I can look at lists, but the names don't mean much to me... I see Beyonce and I don't think kids... I think 40yo woman... I appreciate the help I have gotten here so far... I got some Flo Rida, am looking for Drake, etc...

F. Heights isn't the best place in the area. Do you have an entourage to help with safety?

BobDole
07-31-2009, 03:53 PM
i can't help you much with new stuff, but old school stuff always does the job. lost boyz, a tribe called quest, the pharcyde, the luniz, snoop, ghetto boys, tupac, wu tang and all those guys' solo projects - especially ODB - can't really go wrong with that stuff.

i have 2 little brothers and they listen to a lot of flo-rida, akon, three six mafia, and kanye west - that music is real popular right now. i've been trying to get them to listen to real music but to no avail.

a little off topic, but was that hank's family that blew up in that plane crash in the season finale of breaking bad?

canesandbhoys
07-31-2009, 04:24 PM
That's what the Po-Po told me... See, I can look at lists, but the names don't mean much to me... I see Beyonce and I don't think kids... I think 40yo woman... I appreciate the help I have gotten here so far... I got some Flo Rida, am looking for Drake, etc...

How are you getting your music?

poornate
07-31-2009, 05:16 PM
Um... barely is the best answer I've got... you got a suggestion?

canesandbhoys
07-31-2009, 06:49 PM
Um... barely is the best answer I've got... you got a suggestion?

iTunes has a decent selection of established artists, but guys like Drake, Kid Cudi, and Gucci Mane are gonna be hard to find on iTunes, as they haven't released any studio albums yet. Not to mention you have to pay for every song. Limewire is ok for individual songs, but the quality CAN be terrible. I usually get music from mixtape sites like mixtapetorrent.com and datpiff.com

A few I would suggest:

http://www.mixtapetorrent.com/drake-so-far-gone
http://www.mixtapetorrent.com/mixtape-evolution-drake-drizzy-rogers
http://datnewcudi.com/mixtapes/dat-kid-from-cleveland/

There are some good tracks there.

poornate
07-31-2009, 07:14 PM
I've torrent shopped... but the usual suspects all seem to have some hack sceaming "yeah" and "okay" over the tracks like some *******ized Lil John impersonator... I just want the songs... I'll check them out...

X-Pacolypse
07-31-2009, 09:33 PM
Do the '80's. It works every time!

You asked for it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWyeVfuolT4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fD5YcFmke4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trOij8SPIAo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AXNBR2smPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFEfmbAeEDY

Finfang
07-31-2009, 09:42 PM
You asked for it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWyeVfuolT4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fD5YcFmke4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trOij8SPIAo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AXNBR2smPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFEfmbAeEDY

:lol2:

I like the Cutting Crew song. Vid is lame though.

Divinyls song was from '91.

The rest is laughable.

Not what I meant when I said '80's as it applies to this thread.

X-Pacolypse
07-31-2009, 10:09 PM
:lol2:

I like the Cutting Crew song. Vid is lame though.

Divinyls song was from '91.

The rest is laughable.

Not what I meant when I said '80's as it applies to this thread.

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSaAXDBvfho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlN3oEjMpUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCChxBSRo1Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB8HudfbaTE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZb3Xya7jQ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e322vTpTyOE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psTUiQzNoxw

poornate
08-04-2009, 01:46 AM
So... in real life this would be over... but in my life I got a call from the cops today saying that I needed to make sure that the material was edited for content, which wiped out 75% of what I have... I am sitting up here in my 8th hour of listening to mjusic I hate to screen out f bombs and drug references...

canesandbhoys
08-04-2009, 02:49 AM
Wooooow. When is this event?

poornate
08-05-2009, 09:28 PM
My event was yesterday.... it went well....

I discovered that a lot of rap/hip-hop is garbage, even when it is wildly popular... i also discovered an appreciation for a few people I have never really given a chance to.... I like quite a bit of Lil Wayne... who knew?

canesandbhoys
08-05-2009, 10:16 PM
My event was yesterday.... it went well....

I discovered that a lot of rap/hip-hop is garbage, even when it is wildly popular... i also discovered an appreciation for a few people I have never really given a chance to.... I like quite a bit of Lil Wayne... who knew?

Well, leave it to the cops to tell you something last minute that puts you through a bunch of trouble. I'm glad to hear it went well.

I agree about rap/hip-hop. Honestly, it seems like the most popular stuff is the worst. I would be interested to know who you might have been turned onto.

As for Lil Wayne, I don't know how interested you are in finding more, but the best I've heard out of him lyrically and metaphorically came from the Drought 3, the original Carter III (http://www.jegluc.fatcow.com/Lil%20Wayne%20-%20Tha%20Carter%203%20Original%20Version%20-%20Mixtape%20Evolution.zip), and Dedication 3.

poornate
08-06-2009, 09:26 AM
More than anything I guess it was a combination of discovering individual songs which appeal to me (which are all i have to judge someone by at this point).... so if I am hitting on someone lame, forgive me for I know not what I do... also a discovery of new material by people I either remember being popular or know other music by...

Billy Blue- Story of my Life (I like the chorus more than anything)

Asher Roth- I Love College (Reminds me of what I liked about Kanye West's first album... but I can see myself growing tired of this real quick)

Common- Universal Mind Control (This is not the common I know from years ago... much harder, faster, and more, um, commercial, maybe?)

Estelle- American Boy (Reminds me of late seventies pop in a way)

Young Buck- Bury Me Alive (The rhyming over that funky little guitar sample catches my attention)

Missy Elliott- Rather (This is a good song... it's like a "Well, here I am... middle age." kind of thing, but still relevant because everyone feels like her words from time to time... so subtle, too.)

Nas- Worried (Just a good song... i liked Nas from a song he did called One Mic about 7-8 years ago...Why? For what he does on this song)

Kai Young, Crooked I, Laze, etc.- My Last (Really clubby sounding, but I like the beat and I love the verse where the guy name drops like 30 people...)

Maino- Million dollars (This song is just fun... it's upbeat and seems like something to play outside with the grill on and a beer in my hand)

...and most of all, I guess the Wayne tracks... i got a song called Fireman (which was okay) and a song called Sacrifice (with a bunch of other guys in it). It was really the second song that caught me... so I went into the library and had two albums by him I have never listened to... The Drought 3 and Carter II.... Interesting. He is a good writer, can be witty (or blunt), and has a really interesting voice... I am looking forward to listening to the albums a bit more...

SpurzN703
08-06-2009, 10:52 AM
Glad to see you survived the evening Nate ;)

poornate
08-06-2009, 11:14 AM
... no worries at all... It went really easy, to be honest... after all of my worrying about the music I ended up probably using 40% hip-hop and the rest was soul and older stuff... (Aretha Franklin, Temptations, Otis Redding, Gap band, etc.) It went really well... It was funny... I had people asking if they could hire me for their weddings and stuff... i was like, "Um, I'm a history teacher, not a DJ."... They have already asked me about doing music for D.A.R.E. Basketball and doing a thing in Prince William county for section 8 housing projects.... We'll see... i like volunteering, but it was a bit stressful... different audience than I am used to... i used to DJ at a rock radio station for a few years (and a Christian one (long story there)) and at bars when I was in college... but generally those were crowds that I could play Highway to Hell and get everyone to wake up.... just a bit different, especially with the restrictions on content... that is damn hard with rap music...

canesandbhoys
08-06-2009, 06:26 PM
More than anything I guess it was a combination of discovering individual songs which appeal to me (which are all i have to judge someone by at this point).... so if I am hitting on someone lame, forgive me for I know not what I do... also a discovery of new material by people I either remember being popular or know other music by...

Billy Blue- Story of my Life (I like the chorus more than anything)

Asher Roth- I Love College (Reminds me of what I liked about Kanye West's first album... but I can see myself growing tired of this real quick)

Common- Universal Mind Control (This is not the common I know from years ago... much harder, faster, and more, um, commercial, maybe?)

Estelle- American Boy (Reminds me of late seventies pop in a way)

Young Buck- Bury Me Alive (The rhyming over that funky little guitar sample catches my attention)

Missy Elliott- Rather (This is a good song... it's like a "Well, here I am... middle age." kind of thing, but still relevant because everyone feels like her words from time to time... so subtle, too.)

Nas- Worried (Just a good song... i liked Nas from a song he did called One Mic about 7-8 years ago...Why? For what he does on this song)

Kai Young, Crooked I, Laze, etc.- My Last (Really clubby sounding, but I like the beat and I love the verse where the guy name drops like 30 people...)

Maino- Million dollars (This song is just fun... it's upbeat and seems like something to play outside with the grill on and a beer in my hand)

...and most of all, I guess the Wayne tracks... i got a song called Fireman (which was okay) and a song called Sacrifice (with a bunch of other guys in it). It was really the second song that caught me... so I went into the library and had two albums by him I have never listened to... The Drought 3 and Carter II.... Interesting. He is a good writer, can be witty (or blunt), and has a really interesting voice... I am looking forward to listening to the albums a bit more...

Cool, man. It's always fun to find some good new music.

An interesting thing about Wayne, which you may have already noticed, is that he is VERY knowledgeable about sports. Not just current football and basketball, but I have heard references about a wide variety of sports and many mentions of historical sports figures. Not necessarily something you would expect from a rapper...

RaboGrande24
08-06-2009, 06:52 PM
Cool, man. It's always fun to find some good new music.

An interesting thing about Wayne, which you may have already noticed, is that he is VERY knowledgeable about sports. Not just current football and basketball, but I have heard references about a wide variety of sports and many mentions of historical sports figures. Not necessarily something you would expect from a rapper...
Thats one of the reasons he appeals to many ppl in the 18-24 range. The dude knows ALOT of sports " Peyton Manning flow, I just go no-huddle"

poornate
08-06-2009, 07:09 PM
Cool, man. It's always fun to find some good new music.

An interesting thing about Wayne, which you may have already noticed, is that he is VERY knowledgeable about sports. Not just current football and basketball, but I have heard references about a wide variety of sports and many mentions of historical sports figures. Not necessarily something you would expect from a rapper...

...actually... I was surprised by political bent some of his music takes...I'm not 18-24... but I am glad that amidst the bling and whip banter there is some social conscience there as well....

canesandbhoys
08-06-2009, 07:18 PM
...actually... I was surprised by political bent some of his music takes...I'm not 18-24... but I am glad that amidst the bling and whip banter there is some social conscience there as well....

It's interesting that you say that, because I have noticed that it seems he is going the same direction as most other rappers (and musical artists in general) go. His lyrics have become more about bling and whips, rather than what was present in his earlier mixtape tracks. For instance, there were some rather dark and insightful moments on Da Drought 3 about Katrina and some lyrics that could be conceived as a warning about the way government is drifting towards socialism/fascism.

Conspiracy theorists like myself would notice that this change seems to have started when Wayne began working with Kanye, who went through something similar.

poornate
08-06-2009, 08:19 PM
....I am not familiar enough with the course of his career to comment... but I can tell you that we are not moving towards socialism and fascism... which is a contradiction of ideologies... (or really towards either individually, despite the rise of a corporate economy)... now back to the hip-hop talk...

canesandbhoys
08-06-2009, 08:50 PM
....I am not familiar enough with the course of his career to comment... but I can tell you that we are not moving towards socialism and fascism... which is a contradiction of ideologies... (or really towards either individually, despite the rise of a corporate economy)... now back to the hip-hop talk...

I know, I used them together because I got a certain vibe from some of the lyrics which provoked in my mind certain aspects of each.

Some interesting songs if you haven't heard them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sR8ck77sFo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyrJoVzsr0 (I would be interested to get your take on the last 30 seconds of this track)

But you are right, I'm not looking for another political "discussion." haha

poornate
08-07-2009, 10:17 AM
I know, I used them together because I got a certain vibe from some of the lyrics which provoked in my mind certain aspects of each.

Some interesting songs if you haven't heard them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sR8ck77sFo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyrJoVzsr0 (I would be interested to get your take on the last 30 seconds of this track)

But you are right, I'm not looking for another political "discussion." haha

...Interesting. It seems like so much of his music, in that there are a variety of themes in a single song. I think part of his allure, for me, is that his talk of diamonds and cars seems so disingenuous. It almost is like he says to himself, "I've got to say this, but I better throw some gold chains and Cristal in here so it will sell." What artist doesn't do that to an extent?

As for the last 30 seconds of the Rule the World track... I hate to sound repetitive, but "Interesting." is the best I have got. Is it a call for unity through violence? Is it a ring for uprising? I couldn't help but think of Bishop Turner and Ida B. Wells discussing the necessity for black men to own guns, and how a Winchester should be honored on the mantle of every black family... There has long been a sense that "sh1t is going to go down"... but i don't read the lyrics as a race thing (despite the black hands part)... I think it is more of class thing..... The poor are armed, etc... which makes sense with his Nawlins roots and the aftermath of Katrina... Now there it would have been a sparking point for the poor standing up being recognized for what they suffer due to classism... and that did happen to an extent... but what we predominantly recall are the photos of looters... again, a problem marginalized... but remember, the poor, the oppressed, they are armed.