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miamarino484
08-20-2009, 09:00 AM
ok...I know they're maybe alot of State and Hurricane fans here BUT....you gotta at least show love to the ones that are representing our State and the home of this years BCS Champs once again!!! You gotta love Tebow c'mon...he's an all around "team" player...I may be biased having called Gainesville my home for over a decade but you gotta admit....who else REALLY has a chance to beat us this year??? ...and don't say Oklahoma...because I hate to tell ya..it aint gonna happen...:up::woot:

chrisbaucom
08-20-2009, 09:08 AM
Ole Miss.....oh wait that was last year

miamarino484
08-20-2009, 09:11 AM
lol...ok that was 1 mis-hap...lol

chrisbaucom
08-20-2009, 09:15 AM
They are fun to watch...but they better not read too much of their own press or someone will jump up and bite them in the butt. This Gator team is way too similar to the Miami team of 2002 that was predicted to steamroll everyone and then was a 14 point favorite against Ohio State. That team just thought they had to show up in Tempe and the Ohio State would surrender.

miamarino484
08-20-2009, 09:26 AM
you're right on that...problem with being a Gator fan is consistancy.....when it comes to the "big" game.....we have been all to much a 1st half team...which is sooooo damn frustrating to fans!!! you know how that can be.....we really take charge in those 1st 2 qtrs but you really start cringing and cussing out the screen when it comes to about...2 min left in the 3rd goin on the 4th and we've let the other team come back within a TD.....huh....as I think about it....it just honestly goes along with being a Gator fan...way too many nail biting scenarios!! but when it all comes down...would we rather have our favorite team blow out the opposition every week and be way too predictable......OR make us stress and cuss every now and then and somewhat think...hmmmmm can they REALLY pull this off?? lol...honestly sucks sometimes because its alot of drama!!

BobDole
08-20-2009, 02:53 PM
it's gonna be really hard to beat us this year. our defense has a shot of being one of the best college football has ever seen. should be a fun year. i'll be in gainesville for every home game this year - just like every year.

JCane
08-21-2009, 12:13 AM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/08/BooThisMan-1.gif

I would root for Al-Qaeda before I cheered on the Gators. And if I ever see a Gator fan with a flat tire on the side of the road, I'll offer my assistance long enough to befriend that booger eater and then bail with his tire iron!

:lol:

dolfan94
08-21-2009, 02:56 PM
Your right. No one on your schedule can beat you. The reason is because you have a ***** *** schedule

BobDole
08-21-2009, 03:26 PM
Your right. No one on your schedule can beat you. The reason is because you have a ***** *** schedule

we have pretty much the same schedule every year. there is no ***** *** schedule in the SEC. playing tennessee, georgia, LSU, mississippi state, south carolina, and florida state does not constitute an easy schedule. if we were playing UM, would that make it a tougher schedule?

your first four games will be tough - but then what? duke? ucf? pretty much cake for the last 2/3 of the season - depending on how USF looks next year. the only game you guys have that's tougher is oklahoma. i'd take your schedule over ours in a heartbeat. but then again, we'll have to play alabama in the SEC championship. still think ours is tougher than yours. the ACC doesn't compare to the SEC. not anymore, at least.

HurriPhin
08-21-2009, 04:53 PM
we have pretty much the same schedule every year. there is no ***** *** schedule in the SEC. playing tennessee, georgia, LSU, mississippi state, south carolina, and florida state does not constitute an easy schedule. if we were playing UM, would that make it a tougher schedule?

your first four games will be tough - but then what? duke? ucf? pretty much cake for the last 2/3 of the season - depending on how USF looks next year. the only game you guys have that's tougher is oklahoma. i'd take your schedule over ours in a heartbeat. but then again, we'll have to play alabama in the SEC championship. still think ours is tougher than yours. the ACC doesn't compare to the SEC. not anymore, at least.

The SEC is still possibly the stronger conference but an honest look at whats going on would certainly suggest that the SEC is on a decline and the ACC is on the ups. You don't have to agree yet but the proof will be at seasons end.

dolfan94
08-21-2009, 06:11 PM
we have pretty much the same schedule every year. there is no ***** *** schedule in the SEC. playing tennessee, georgia, LSU, mississippi state, south carolina, and florida state does not constitute an easy schedule. if we were playing UM, would that make it a tougher schedule?

your first four games will be tough - but then what? duke? ucf? pretty much cake for the last 2/3 of the season - depending on how USF looks next year. the only game you guys have that's tougher is oklahoma. i'd take your schedule over ours in a heartbeat. but then again, we'll have to play alabama in the SEC championship. still think ours is tougher than yours. the ACC doesn't compare to the SEC. not anymore, at least.

This year, many teams in the SEC suck compared to last year at least. Georgia is an example of that.

I dont follow the SEC too much so dont know about the other teams.

But for you to rather play 2 Div 2 opponents instead of a Div 1 team, is very unmanly.

BobDole
08-21-2009, 06:25 PM
This year, many teams in the SEC suck compared to last year at least. Georgia is an example of that.

I dont follow the SEC too much so dont know about the other teams.

But for you to rather play 2 Div 2 opponents instead of a Div 1 team, is very unmanly.

very unmanly? :lol: got a good laugh out of that one. nice. you do need to follow both conferences though to say we have a ***** *** schedule with any type of authority.

BobDole
08-21-2009, 06:44 PM
The SEC is still possibly the stronger conference but an honest look at whats going on would certainly suggest that the SEC is on a decline and the ACC is on the ups. You don't have to agree yet but the proof will be at seasons end.

IMO the 5 best teams in college football are florida, oklahoma, texas, alabama, and ohio state. 2 SEC teams in the top 5 is pretty good.

but i do get what you're saying. tennessee isn't what they used to be. georgia will take a year or so to get over losing stafford. auburn and south carolina have issues. LSU may or may not be good - although that defense is always tough despite however much the offense is holding them back. at the end of the day, LSU and mississippi state are the only ones that really scare me. and alabama most of all in the SEC championship.

the dark horses in the ACC have made some strides in the last few years to make that conference exciting as hell to watch. i still don't see a top 10 team in the bunch but i like how competitive the games are.

dolfan94
08-21-2009, 10:56 PM
IMO the 5 best teams in college football are florida, oklahoma, texas, alabama, and ohio state. 2 SEC teams in the top 5 is pretty good.

but i do get what you're saying. tennessee isn't what they used to be. georgia will take a year or so to get over losing stafford. auburn and south carolina have issues. LSU may or may not be good - although that defense is always tough despite however much the offense is holding them back. at the end of the day, LSU and mississippi state are the only ones that really scare me. and alabama most of all in the SEC championship.

the dark horses in the ACC have made some strides in the last few years to make that conference exciting as hell to watch. i still don't see a top 10 team in the bunch but i like how competitive the games are.

Well, the Big 12 has 2 teams as well.

But that's exactly what Im saying. In 5 years, its obvously not, but the SEC could be the worse league in the country, and Florida could still be really good though, but you would be playing those ****ty(I know they're not) SEC teams and a couple of Div II opponents. You gotta schedule smart

JCane
08-22-2009, 03:12 AM
Guys, let's try and stay on topic here...

Where are the Gator fans?

Well, I found quite a few of them here...

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/08/prison-1.jpg

Namor
08-22-2009, 10:37 AM
The SEC is still possibly the stronger conference but an honest look at whats going on would certainly suggest that the SEC is on a decline and the ACC is on the ups. You don't have to agree yet but the proof will be at seasons end.

Please explain...The SEC was very young this past year.We've lead the nation in recruiting the last three years.Look at the coaches in the SEC.
Only Butch Davis could go to a top SEC school.Listen I like UM,but
do you think Bama,Florida,LSU,Ga or even Old Miss is sitting around thinking "Damn, I wish we could hire Randy Shannon"?
Look at the TV contract the SEC just signed..Thats a extra 20 million a
year to each SEC school,no matter what happens.EVERY SEC football game will be on TV.ALL of them...think that hurts recruiting?Compare the stadiums and facilities of the ACC to the SEC.Again..I like Miami..
but the Cane's never sell out...and Landshark Stadium..(God' I miss the
Orange Bowl)only holds about 80,000.
Take Bama for example,next year when the exspansion to BD is complete
and we open with Penn State,it will hold 103,000 and there will be about
20,000 extra people that couldn't get in watching from the Quad.
The SEC Championship game is just about the crown jewel of college
football,2nd only to the BCS championship game.
We've won the most BCS championships.Weve won the last 4 out 5,I
think,and the last three in a row.
How is the SEC declining?

Namor
08-22-2009, 10:40 AM
This year, many teams in the SEC suck compared to last year at least. Georgia is an example of that.

I dont follow the SEC too much so dont know about the other teams.

But for you to rather play 2 Div 2 opponents instead of a Div 1 team, is very unmanly.

SUCK? please name them and explain with some facts or stats.

dolfan94
08-22-2009, 03:05 PM
Please explain...The SEC was very young this past year.We've lead the nation in recruiting the last three years.Look at the coaches in the SEC.
Only Butch Davis could go to a top SEC school.Listen I like UM,but
do you think Bama,Florida,LSU,Ga or even Old Miss is sitting around thinking "Damn, I wish we could hire Randy Shannon"?
Look at the TV contract the SEC just signed..Thats a extra 20 million a
year to each SEC school,no matter what happens.EVERY SEC football game will be on TV.ALL of them...think that hurts recruiting?Compare the stadiums and facilities of the ACC to the SEC.Again..I like Miami..
but the Cane's never sell out...and Landshark Stadium..(God' I miss the
Orange Bowl)only holds about 80,000.
Take Bama for example,next year when the exspansion to BD is complete
and we open with Penn State,it will hold 103,000 and there will be about
20,000 extra people that couldn't get in watching from the Quad.
The SEC Championship game is just about the crown jewel of college
football,2nd only to the BCS championship game.
We've won the most BCS championships.Weve won the last 4 out 5,I
think,and the last three in a row.
How is the SEC declining?
They've lead the nation in recruiting, and Kyle Wright was the #1 QB coming out of high school. Recruiting ratings mean nothing.

About the facility, Landshark Stadium is a top facility in College Football.
The Swamp is a swamp.

And I dont know many people outside the SEC that care about their championship game.

dolfan94
08-22-2009, 03:06 PM
SUCK? please name them and explain with some facts or stats.
I said compared to last year

HurriPhin
08-22-2009, 05:03 PM
When I say that I think the SEC is on a decline I mean the all around quality of talent on the teams. Alabama, Georgia & LSU, will consistently, year in and year out, posses exceptional talent (I left out Florida b/c they will drop off after this year), but the rest of the teams are not that strong anymore. My assessment is that the SEC isn't as strong as it used to be from top to bottom. I could care less about TV contracts and the population of brainwashed students that attend the games. I lived in Ga*nesville for 5 years, you know why there are so many people at the games... there is nothing else to do in that forsaken town. Everybody goes to the games on Saturdays b/c it's the cool thing to do. Not because you have 90,000 dedicated ga*tor fans. At least in Landshark we know that the fans are actually there for the Canes and not just tagging along b/c some slutority sister had an extra ticket and they want to dress up and look pretty in their new orange and blue outfit.

Now when you talk about winning the BCS 4 out of 5 years, I gotta listen. That's what matters. Until there is a playoff sysytem in place thats what we have to deal with. But I also agree with Dolfan 94 in saying unless your team plays in the SEC championship, you don't give a rip (Though I will gladly watch Bama kick the swamp gas out of those fake crocodiles)

Anyways after my rambling, to put it simple, the SEC (especially the East) can no longer rest on it's laurels of being the most difficult conference to play in. SEC teams (aka ga*tors) must schedule better out of conference games to be respected.

Namor
08-22-2009, 06:38 PM
They've lead the nation in recruiting, and Kyle Wright was the #1 QB coming out of high school. Recruiting ratings mean nothing.

About the facility, Landshark Stadium is a top facility in College Football.
The Swamp is a swamp.

And I dont know many people outside the SEC that care about their championship game.

Please name the last National Championship team that did not have highly ranked recruits.Thats just freaking silly.College football is ALL about recruiting.The recruiting rankings run about 80% accurate.Kyle Wright was a good QB on a bad team with bad coaching.

And Joe Robbie Stadium is a top stadium built for the Miami Dolphins and happens to rent it out to the Canes and Marlins.
I love the Dolphins but, really, because Joe Robbie was built to house baseball also..its not really a good football stadium because of the first seats being to far away from the field.
When i mean facilities,i mean practice field,weight rooms and the whole nine yards used for recruiting.There's that meaningless recruiting word
again.I've seen Miami's facilities and they are not in the same league with
Alabama's.Miami is a private school and the differance in money put into
athletics,is what separates the SEC from the ACC.

If nobody else cares about the SEC title game then why is it always
the highest rated championship game?
Why is it the only championship shown at prime time?
If nobody outside the SEC cares about the SEC then why did CBS and
ESPN offer a multi-billion dollar contract to show all their games.

Just use facts,please.

Namor
08-22-2009, 06:42 PM
I hope you don't think i'm a gator fan?
Hell no, I'm a Bama guy...I hate those gators..We've lost more because
of those gators over the years than you cane fan's can even imagine.

JCane
08-22-2009, 07:02 PM
That's because we straight OWN those Gators with the exception of last year and they damn well know it. The Gators WISH they could equal the success we've had.

And for the record, I gotta side with Namor on this one guys. He's absolutely right with his points. If I wasn't posting from my phone I'd help break it down.

But I will say this...Kyle Wright was a GREAT QB coming out of high school and no doubt he had some TERRIBLE coaching. Coker ruined a great thing.

TedSlimmJr
08-22-2009, 07:07 PM
Ahhhhh....this is wonderful....

There's nothing better than listening to you guys bicker about college football.....it means it's finally here.....

Keep it up fellas....


Roll mf'in Tide

Namor
08-22-2009, 07:26 PM
Ahhhhh....this is wonderful....

There's nothing better than listening to you guys bicker about college football.....it means it's finally here.....

Keep it up fellas....


Roll mf'in Tide

Ted.. I've missed you bro.
Always good to know where my fellow Roll Tiders are.
You getting ready for VT?

JCane
08-22-2009, 07:28 PM
I'm counting on Alabama to roll Virginia Tech because like last season against Clemson, I plan on dropping a nice chunk of change on the Tide just before kickoff.

TedSlimmJr
08-22-2009, 07:36 PM
Ted.. I've missed you bro.
Always good to know where my fellow Roll Tiders are.
You getting ready for VT?


You betcha....If I get anymore ready they'll have to throw me away because I'd be rotten...

Time to put another good ol' country boy *** whoopin on the ACC's prized possession again...

Namor
08-22-2009, 07:54 PM
That's because we straight OWN those Gators with the exception of last year and they damn well know it. The Gators WISH they could equal the success we've had.

And for the record, I gotta side with Namor on this one guys. He's absolutely right with his points. If I wasn't posting from my phone I'd help break it down.

But I will say this...Kyle Wright was a GREAT QB coming out of high school and no doubt he had some TERRIBLE coaching. Coker ruined a great thing.

Hey JC,whats up...
What bothers me..is I think I get a bad rap for being so pro SEC,
but the fact is the SEC puts more money into their programs.
I still feel the ACC still puts more emphasis on basketball,overall.
A perfect world would have Fla. St and Miami in the SEC and Kentucky
and Vandy in the ACC.
Imagine the football meat grinder that would be.
plus if Miami (my 2nd favorite college team)were in the SEC,that extra 20 million a year from the TV contract would help get and keep a elite coach.
No disrespect to Shannon,but Miami deserves a great high profile coach,not a good coordinator you hope becomes a good head coach.
4 to 5 million a year is fixing to become the norm for the best coaches.
Look at it this way the best coach in the ACC is Butch Davis,If he hadn't left Miami for more money the Florida football landscape sure would look different.If Shannon were to stumble and Miami had to go looking for a new coach,they can't offer the big bucks for a big time coach and recruiting staff.Alabama tried for years to do it cheap way and think "tradition' alone will attract the elite players and it cost us.Money and
recruiting is the name of the game in college football.
But enough of that,..Jc how you been doing? Here's to a great college
and Dolphin football season.

Namor
08-22-2009, 07:59 PM
Kind of cool how we hijacked a Gator thread.

JCane
08-22-2009, 08:35 PM
Hey JC,whats up...
What bothers me..is I think I get a bad rap for being so pro SEC,
but the fact is the SEC puts more money into their programs.
I still feel the ACC still puts more emphasis on basketball,overall.
A perfect world would have Fla. St and Miami in the SEC and Kentucky
and Vandy in the ACC.
Imagine the football meat grinder that would be.
plus if Miami (my 2nd favorite college team)were in the SEC,that extra 20 million a year from the TV contract would help get and keep a elite coach.
No disrespect to Shannon,but Miami deserves a great high profile coach,not a good coordinator you hope becomes a good head coach.
4 to 5 million a year is fixing to become the norm for the best coaches.
Look at it this way the best coach in the ACC is Butch Davis,If he hadn't left Miami for more money the Florida football landscape sure would look different.If Shannon were to stumble and Miami had to go looking for a new coach,they can't offer the big bucks for a big time coach and recruiting staff.Alabama tried for years to do it cheap way and think "tradition' alone will attract the elite players and it cost us.Money and
recruiting is the name of the game in college football.
But enough of that,..Jc how you been doing? Here's to a great college
and Dolphin football season.


It is what it is man. You ain't stating nothing but truth here. The SEC has a strangle hold on college football. I live in the South. Graduated from an SEC school. These people take their football seriously. They're always going to have more money and dedication to their programs. The ACC loses three schools (UNC, Duke, Maryland) immediately to basketball. Butch Davis is a premier coach but no way does he stick around at UNC for an extended period of time.

Donna Shalala, president of Miami, is not as dedicated to the football program as she would have you believe. Miami is a private school. She's all about graduation rates and academics at Miami. She loves the football program, but she won't sacrifice the academic standards for a football powerhouse. We've seen Notre Dame suffer under the same light.

We have high profile alum but it goes back to the old saying, "There is power in numbers." Alabama, Florida, Tennessee...these schools have those numbers. And by numbers I mean a large alumni fan base. We may have some very wealthy alum, but they're not enough to throw the mega bucks at high profile coaches like the SEC schools can do.

Is Shannon the right guy for Miami? It's too tough for me to say really. My thought is this: Shannon isn't an offensive mind. He never intends to be. He felt that Patrick Nix was the guy who could coach and execute offense on top of clock management, etc. I truly believe that Shannon is clueless on offense. And believe me, Shannon spent an extremely long period of time picking who he felt was the right guy for the job this time around. Mark Whipple has as much experience as anyone out there. It's not like we don't have the talent to win and win big. Shannon wants to focus on recruiting and putting quality kids on the field and in the Miami classrooms. That "Thug U" garbage is out the window with Shannon. I think Lovett was a puppet hire. Our secondary has been putrid the past few seasons. Lovett is a DB specialist. Behind the curtains, Shannon will orchestrate this defense.

Recruiting in college football is everything. You'd better believe it. Think about how much different things would be in college football today had Alabama swayed Tim Tebow away from Florida in the final hours. Tim Tebow is a difference maker and great recruiters will spot this in a KID. A kid man. There's a reason I have a "Hurricanes Recruiting Thread" apart from just a regular Hurricane news thread. It's a different animal. If you really want to find out about college football recruiting, pick up the book "Meat Market" by Bruce Feldman (also wrote 'Cane Mutiny detailing the rise of the Miami Hurricanes).

HurriPhin
08-22-2009, 08:54 PM
Kind of cool how we hijacked a Gator thread.

Absolutely. It has been great jawing with you guys even though I seem to have quite a biased opinion when it comes to the Canes. So glad the real season is around the corner.

I'm really starting to wonder if the ga*tors really do have any true fans or if they just show up on Saturdays to satisfy their Tebow man crush.

Namor
08-22-2009, 09:22 PM
Absolutely. It has been great jawing with you guys even though I seem to have quite a biased opinion when it comes to the Canes. So glad the real season is around the corner.

I'm really starting to wonder if the ga*tors really do have any true fans or if they just show up on Saturdays to satisfy their Tebow man crush.

I enjoy jawing with you HurrinPhin..You will back up your opinion with
facts and passion.That other guy was just throwing out silly statements.
When he said recruiting rankings don't matter ...I almost fell of my chair laughing.
Like I said before I'm a Bama grad and love the Tide ,but the Canes are my 2nd favorite team.
I wished they were in the SEC..They play ball the SEC way.

JCane
08-22-2009, 10:16 PM
In the end, I don't think recruiting rankings matter as much as the coaching. The 'Canes of the past couple of season and the Ron Zook era is living proof of that. Kyle Wright, Lance Leggett...both we're highly recruited coming out of high school and failed at the college level likely due to poor coaching and offensive execution. I pay no attention to the star ratings. I concern myself with how well the kid's skill set fits into what the coaching staff is trying to do.

Namor
08-22-2009, 10:24 PM
In the end, I don't think recruiting rankings matter as much as the coaching. The 'Canes of the past couple of season and the Ron Zook era is living proof of that. Kyle Wright, Lance Leggett...both we're highly recruited coming out of high school and failed at the college level likely due to poor coaching and offensive execution. I pay no attention to the star ratings. I concern myself with how well the kid's skill set fits into what the coaching staff is trying to do.

I agree somewhat...but ,a great coach with five star players on average
will beat a great coach with two star players.
You have to have talent,predicting that talent's potential and using that talent correctly are another thing altogether.

BobDole
08-23-2009, 07:39 AM
too funny. love the jealousy that comes from the gators owning you guys.

yeah - miami worked us over years back. but they were good then. if we played this year - not so much. that wouldn't even be considered a football game. it would be considered rape. gang rape to be exact. please.

for you bama fans - you guys are gonna be dope next year. absolutely scared about the SEC championship. can't wait.

dolfan94
08-23-2009, 02:28 PM
I wasnt saying recruiting wasnt everything. I said recruiting RANKING dont mean anything

Namor
08-23-2009, 02:45 PM
I wasnt saying recruiting wasnt everything. I said recruiting RANKING dont mean anything

All national championship winning teams have highly RANKED recruiting
classes.
So yes,rankings do matter.I don't think there is much differance in
the #1 ranked class compared to the #5 ranked class,but if your school
cosistantly has a top five or top 10 ranked class,you will be a top team.
That is a fact.
Go back and look at the recruiting rankings for the top teams the last 15
years.That's not a fluke.

JCane
08-27-2009, 06:31 AM
Personal life
Meyer was born on July 10, 1964 in Toledo, Ohio (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Toledo,_Ohio) and moved to Ashtabula, Ohio (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Ashtabula,_Ohio) as a child. He graduated from Ashtabula's Saint John High School (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Saints_John_%26_Paul_High_School). He went on to play defensive back (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Defensive_back) at the University of Cincinnati (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/University_of_Cincinnati) before earning his bachelor's degree (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Bachelor%27s_degree) in psychology (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Psychology) in 1986. During his undergraduate studies, Meyer also became a brother of the Sigma Chi (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Sigma_Chi) Fraternity, and met his wife at Sigma Chi's Derby Days philanthropy event.[20] (http://www.finheaven.com/forums/#cite_note-19)

Meyer went on to earn his master's degree (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Master%27s_degree) in sports administration (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Sports_administration) at Ohio State University (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Ohio_State_University) in 1988. Meyer was also selected in the 13th round, as a shortstop, by the Atlanta Braves (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Atlanta_Braves) in the 1982 major league baseball draft. Meyer spent two seasons playing minor league baseball in the Braves organization.[21] (http://www.finheaven.com/forums/#cite_note-20)

Meyer married his wife, Shelley, in 1986. The Meyers have three children: Nicole, Gigi, and Nate. Although he is married with three children his relationship with openly gay Florida Gator quarterback Tim Tebow has led to much speculation about his sexuality.

His eldest daughter Nicki is an incoming volleyball player for Georgia Tech (http://www.finheaven.com/wiki/Georgia_Tech).[22] (http://www.finheaven.com/forums/#cite_note-21)

I knew it.

DolphinMistress
08-27-2009, 06:17 PM
ok...I know they're maybe alot of State and Hurricane fans here BUT....you gotta at least show love to the ones that are representing our State and the home of this years BCS Champs once again!!! You gotta love Tebow c'mon...he's an all around "team" player...I may be biased having called Gainesville my home for over a decade but you gotta admit....who else REALLY has a chance to beat us this year??? ...and don't say Oklahoma...because I hate to tell ya..it aint gonna happen...:up::woot:

Gator fan here... GO GATORS!