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Roman529
09-21-2009, 03:12 PM
I don't post a lot of threads in the Draft Forum, but I think Tim Tebow is the guy we should draft in the first round of the 2010 Draft.

I think a lot of you Kiper/McShay types are not that big on Tebow, and say he is a product of the Gator's system, but you cannot argue with his toughness or intelligence.

Too many "experts" are looking for someone with a big arm like a Cutler or Flacco, but all too often these QB's don't have the smarts to win games as they are always trying to force passes. I think Flacco has now developed into a QB where he takes what the defense gives him.

The Dolphins have repeatedly been looking for their franchise QB since Dan Marino retired. The only two quarterbacks who have been close to competant have been Fiedler and Pennington, and I would not put either of them up there as an elite QB. You see what Matt Ryan has done with the Falcons, Joe Flacco with the Ravens, and now Sanchez with the Jets. These teams have their franchise QB and they don't have to waste picks on trying to bring in another QB.....like the Phins have done with three consecutive 2nd round picks (Beck, Henne and White).

Let's face it.....we have had nothing but short term stop gap QB's who are all far from franchise QB's. I know sometimes it takes a little patience to see if a QB will develop, but I think Henne and White are just going to be career backups.

By drafting Tim Tebow we would have a high character QB who will do everything he can to make this team a winner. Many QB's are ok with losing, but not Tebow. I think Miami will likely draft somewhere around the middle of the 2010 draft and if Tebow is still on the board, I think we have to take him. Then we can move Jake Long to the Right Tackle spot and start focusing on our other needs, like acquiring a #1 wide receiver.

It's hard to win in the NFL with mediocrity at the QB spot....you need a guy who is mentally sharp and physically fit, and to me Tim Tebow is the right fit.

DRAFT TIM TEBOW IN 2010

TheDon74
09-21-2009, 03:19 PM
I really like Tebow and hope he is a great NFL QB but come on really? We have used a second round pick 3 consecutive drafts on QB's. Not to mention we have a project option guy on the roster already named Pat White. I can think of about 6 other roster spots that need to be filled with a #1 pick namely a top wide out.

Roman529
09-21-2009, 03:32 PM
I really like Tebow and hope he is a great NFL QB but come on really? We have used a second round pick 3 consecutive drafts on QB's. Not to mention we have a project option guy on the roster already named Pat White. I can think of about 6 other roster spots that need to be filled with a #1 pick namely a top wide out.

That's our main problem....we draft 2nd round QB's thinking they are going to become something special. That's why winning organizations like the Falcons, Jets and Baltimore took Ryan, Sanchez and Flacco in the first round while we have taken guys in the 2nd who haven't amounted to much. I am willing to be patient with Henne and White, but I don't see them as franchise QB's. Yes, we have about six other roster spots that need to be filled, but we are never going to be an elite team without a top QB. Very few teams win with a mediocre QB unless they have a great defense, and we don't have that yet either. We can continue to be mediocre or we can take a franchise QB and then fit in the rest of the pieces. :up:

BobDole
09-21-2009, 06:48 PM
i'd be all for it. but i'm the biggest gator homer on the planet so i might not be the best one to talk about this objectively. if he can put up the same numbers that he has the past 3 years with his current group of receivers that will be extremely telling. one thing i can say for sure is if we draft him we'll be getting a proven winner and a class act. i've never seen a player that can will his team to win the way tebow does - he does not accept failure.

TheDon74
09-21-2009, 07:01 PM
He's got 2 big a question mark on his ability to play qb at the next level to justify a 1st round pick from anybody but maybe the Jags and thats only because it would jump start ticket sales.

Shogun Samurai
09-22-2009, 01:16 AM
How would drafting Tebow ever help us

RustyGator
09-22-2009, 09:13 AM
Tim Tebow is a combination of Rothlesburger and McNabb, IMO. He takes a little while to throw the ball...big freakin deal...so does Big Ben. He also has the determination like Big Ben. I think Timmy could have willed a win in last nights game against the Colts. Also, I think the spread (to a much lessor degree than what we see in college) is here to stay! Why does a QB have to take a snap under center? How often does Peyton and Brady take it under center? I agree that too many people listen to the talking heads saying that Tebow doesn't have the tangibles to be an elite QB. I say, "why not"? People are in awe about how good of a runner Tebow is and just assume he can't pass...like most other great running QBs. Tim Tebow can pass! He can zip it. He does it all the time. He can wing it 40 yards downfield with a flick.

Obviously, I'm biased to a certain degree being a Gator fan. I don't think Timmy is the best QB in the draft next year. I think Jevon Snead will be the best NFL QB of the bunch. Colt McCoy is like 5'10"...he won't make it. Bradford is a product of his system (look at what the backup did last week for OU...6 TDs)...albeit Bradford could be a "solid" NFL QB. Tebow will be the man and will be ripe for the picking at the time the Dolphins have to draft.

The Ghost
09-22-2009, 06:44 PM
Come on. I am all for drafting Jevan Snead though.

HurriPhin
09-24-2009, 08:09 AM
:possum4286:

Yeah let's draft a slow fullback with even slower throwing mechanics. Doesn't comedy belong in the lounge.

TedSlimmJr
09-24-2009, 09:13 AM
Tebow's delivery is like waiting at the clinic to see the doc........it takes too long....

IMO he has a 10% chance of ever being an NFL quarterback worth anything....but he's probably the best college football player there's ever been.....just doesn't translate well to the NFL for me....

Hell....Jake Locker will be the better pro quarterback.....lightning quick release....bigger arm than Tebow....throws a much cleaner, tighter ball.....throws better on the run than any quarterback in college IMO....cleaner mechanics from the ground up.....and his leadership, intangibles, and overall skills translate properly to the NFL...

hooshoops
09-24-2009, 11:21 AM
u see berry break on that ball tebow threw that took forever to come out of his hand???

lol...that was too easy

RealDriscoll
09-24-2009, 12:11 PM
haha I beg to differ big-time as I think Tim Tebow will not be a good NFL Quarterback by any means. Tebow's strong suit is his athletic ability and in the NFL everyone is on the same level as him. The game is much faster and Tebow has not shown me the pocket presence to be a big-time NFL Quarterback.

Mr. Magoo
09-24-2009, 01:01 PM
I'm a Gator myself and have watched nearly every game of Tebow's career. As such, I feel very qualified to say that although he has extraordinary qualities in terms of toughness, leadership and "want to", strictly from a "throwing" perspective, he's not even draftable. He has an incredibly slow release, of course, but he also displays fairly lousy accuracy and questionable decision making skills. He benefits not just from the spread system, but with playing with receivers who get extremely open.

Now, don't get me wrong. He's a great, great college quarterback. Perhaps the best ever. But very little of what he does as a quarterback translates to the NFL. I'd enjoy him while he lasts.

RealDriscoll
09-24-2009, 03:41 PM
Magoo,

I agree with your post and the sad thing is I think the Jaguars will select him in the Top 10 as a stricly business decision to get the fans in Florida to follow the Jaguars and to draw some national attention thier way.

JCane
09-25-2009, 12:39 AM
Allow me to explain why Tim Tebow is NOT the guy we want.

This dude has played his entire college career for a GREAT coach and a GREAT team. Florida pretty much dominates when they step on the field. Tebow has NEVER had to struggle. He has never had to scrap, grind or fight for wins. Rarely has he had to play from behind.

In the NFL, you will scrap, grind and fight on every single play almost and you will often times play from behind. Tim Tebow is one hell of a leader. He's the alpha male. He has what it takes to be the vocal leader but I'm not sure if he has the intagibles that are required to be an NFL QB. Jay Cutler came from Vanderbilt. He had to grind, crap and fight for wins at Vanderbilt. Matt Ryan had to do the same at Boston College. Eli Manning did the same at Ole Miss. Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Donovan McNabb, Ben Roethlisberger...the list goes on and on with big time NFL talent at small schools who had to grind out wins. You have your exceptions with Peyton Manning and Carson Palmer but you can't use that "1%" argument.

Tim Tebow has always been the biggest kid on the block. He has dominated at every level because of his size. And this reminds me of a similar player: JaMarcus Russell. Big kid. Speed. Big rocket arm. Dominating at the college level. Never had to scrap or fight in his life. Never.

Tim Tebow is certainly the kid of guy I want in this locker room and there is absolutely a place for him in the NFL. He is too big and too talented to not have a place. He will be successful. But the risk is too great and draft picks matter far too much in this league to gamble like this.

Eric Berry is the guy if he is there. There's no question about it.

CedarPhin
09-25-2009, 12:55 AM
Dan LeFevour is the guy I'd like.

skipp2myloo13
09-26-2009, 11:23 PM
clausen

Roman529
09-27-2009, 03:40 AM
Ohhhh Nooooo,....Tim Tebow got hammered tonight and then his head snapped back whiplash style and he banged his head off of his own player's knee. Our future #1 pick was carted off the field making some detractors scream, "We want Clausen from Notre Dame." Roman is going to have to review Clausen Pickle to see if he is worth taking with our first pick....stayed tuned Dolphin's fans.

X-Pacolypse
09-29-2009, 04:22 PM
Tebow got exposed when he played against Monte Kiffin's defense. Tebow will fail as a QB in the NFL. Going up against Monte was a good test for Tebow, and while Tebow won the game he was horrible as a passer.

jim1
10-25-2009, 07:56 AM
I don't post a lot of threads in the Draft Forum, but I think Tim Tebow is the guy we should draft in the first round of the 2010 Draft.

I think a lot of you Kiper/McShay types are not that big on Tebow, and say he is a product of the Gator's system, but you cannot argue with his toughness or intelligence.

Too many "experts" are looking for someone with a big arm like a Cutler or Flacco, but all too often these QB's don't have the smarts to win games as they are always trying to force passes. I think Flacco has now developed into a QB where he takes what the defense gives him.

The Dolphins have repeatedly been looking for their franchise QB since Dan Marino retired. The only two quarterbacks who have been close to competant have been Fiedler and Pennington, and I would not put either of them up there as an elite QB. You see what Matt Ryan has done with the Falcons, Joe Flacco with the Ravens, and now Sanchez with the Jets. These teams have their franchise QB and they don't have to waste picks on trying to bring in another QB.....like the Phins have done with three consecutive 2nd round picks (Beck, Henne and White).

Let's face it.....we have had nothing but short term stop gap QB's who are all far from franchise QB's. I know sometimes it takes a little patience to see if a QB will develop, but I think Henne and White are just going to be career backups.

By drafting Tim Tebow we would have a high character QB who will do everything he can to make this team a winner. Many QB's are ok with losing, but not Tebow. I think Miami will likely draft somewhere around the middle of the 2010 draft and if Tebow is still on the board, I think we have to take him. Then we can move Jake Long to the Right Tackle spot and start focusing on our other needs, like acquiring a #1 wide receiver.

It's hard to win in the NFL with mediocrity at the QB spot....you need a guy who is mentally sharp and physically fit, and to me Tim Tebow is the right fit.

DRAFT TIM TEBOW IN 2010

Move Jake Long to Right Tackle- what are you talking about?

Roman529
10-27-2009, 01:11 AM
Move Jake Long to Right Tackle- what are you talking about?

In case you hadn't noticed, Tebow is LEFT handed so if we drafted Tebow, why would we leave Jake Long at Left Tackle????? Long would be moved to Right Tackle. That's what I was talking about, but it will probably be a moot point as Henne look like our future QB.

#1dolphinsfan
10-27-2009, 01:51 AM
there are alot bigger holes on this team then QB

Bumpus
10-27-2009, 05:12 PM
:lol:
Tebow in the 1st as our franchise QB. Thanks, I needed that.
:lol:

jim1
10-29-2009, 12:25 PM
Tebow hasn't been the same player since the concussion. At all.

jim1
11-03-2009, 04:30 PM
My main interest in Tebow regards wether or not he deserves the massive criticism that he's received as a pro prospect the last couple of years. My feeling on that is no, he doesn't. That being said, I wouldn't say that he's lit it up this year, and from what I've seen this year he wasn't the same player for 3 games after the concussion. Do I think that the Dolphins would draft him? Probably not, because of the picks and time invested in the current 3 guys- but you never know. Parcells may have fallen in love with his play, toughness and intangibles. He took Pat White pretty high, so you never know. And Bellichick was apparently all over White' jock as well. It wouldn't shock me to see Belichick take him with a mid to late 1st. I think that he will go in the 1st, probably to Jax.

This year, especially after the concussion, he's just not as good- it happens, look at McCoy and probably Snead who both seem to be having off years. And yes, Harvin and Murphy are gone, too. Time will tell- he doesn't have the prettiest or quickest delivery out there- imo not nearly as bad as some make it out to be, though- but my guess is that Jon Gruden is right and the next offensive wave in the NFL will be the spread offense. That bodes well for Tebow.

note: 10:05 pm I just saw this in the new Florida Sprts Buzz:

A Dolphins executive told people that Miami has a high regard for Florida's Tim Tebow. But even if he slid to the Dolphins' first-round slot, it would be surprising if they drafted him after investing second-rounders in Chad Henne and White and trading a fifth-rounder for Tyler Thigpen.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/1314639.html

HurriPhin
11-04-2009, 03:42 PM
I think if/when Tebow falls into the 3rd-4th round it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to take him. No one knows the extent of Cobbs' injury and we could certainly use a capable fullback besides Polite to block for Brown and Williams. :chuckle:

jim1
11-04-2009, 05:35 PM
I think if/when Tebow falls into the 3rd-4th round it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to take him. No one knows the extent of Cobbs' injury and we could certainly use a capable fullback besides Polite to block for Brown and Williams. :chuckle:

We'll see what happens, I still think that he'll go in the 1st round.

Roman529
11-05-2009, 05:51 PM
OK, lots has changed since I posted this thread. When Pennington got hurt and Henne looked bad I was doubtful of Henne, but I think Henne is pretty solid and so drafting a QB is no longer a top priority. I would take McClain, the Crimson Tide LB, then the best WR we can find. I like Dez Bryant, so if McClain is off the board I think Bryant is someone we need to look at. After that we need a beast Nose Tackle.